Suggested Post-Draft Free Agents & Trade Ideas?
 

What say you CP? What are the best available FA acquisitions and trade scenarios for the Chiefs post-draft?


Shwartz or Fisher, to compete with Niang for RT?

Breeland, Earl Thomas or Sherman at DB?

Melvin Ingram as dedicated Pass Rusher?

Larry Fitzgerald or Goldan Tate as WR #2?

Pull off the big trade for Julio!?

How much money do you think there is?

I’m going to relax and enjoy the summer and realize no matter what idea I have Veach is 26 steps ahead of all of us and onto better ideas. I’m just ready for the season now. There isn’t a better roster in the NFL so I’m not too desperate for any other moves. I don’t think we’ll do much outside of taking flyers from released players during camp cutdowns.

It seems like we have a huge hole at WR #2.

I think Mecole, Drob, and Powell will get some play but that's the most obvious question mark.

I also would like another vet pass rusher/ ring chaser.

Sign Breeland.

Sign vet pass rusher (probably Ingram). We’ll need to hope that Jones, Reed, Clark, Wharton, Danna, and Taco are enough. Clark needs to have a good year. We need one of the young guys to surprise us.

There really isn’t a true WR 2 available. I think we either roll with what we have or make a trade. No idea who we would trade for.

No way on Earl Thomas. Bring in high character players only at this point please.

Would love to see Schwartz or Fish back but I just don't think their health will allow it this year.

I assume you meant pull off the trade for Julio not JuJu?

Gotta be Breeland, Ingram, Tate. Instantly fills 3 holes short term until next years draft where the ****ing Wizard of rosters fills these holes

Correct, Julio, sorry.

Yep. Can't wait for training camp.

That would be fantastic!

Pretty much how I feel. Still holding out a little hope for a Julio trade, but whatever happens I'm happy.

Breeland and Ingram. The fact that both have yet to sign has to be an indicator of their value to the rest of the league. They should both be relatively affordable and Breeland knows the defense.

I don't think WR is as big of need anymore as Mahomes will have more time to throw. This will allow more opportunities for our receivers to get open. Not against bringing in additional WR help, just don't see it as something we need to dedicate many resources to.

The WR situation and our offense as a whole now reminds me of the Packers. Everyone wants to shit on their WRs after Adams, and cry that Rodgers needs more help, but they built an OL so that Rodgers sits back there all day and throws to the same guy over and over. And it works. And they don't have the best TE in the world either.

I think we'll be much more focused on a DE and maybe corner depth. I think they believe we can get a lot out of Hardman, Powell, DRob and Pringle with 15 having tons of time, an improved running game and, of course, Hill and Kelce drawing all the attention.

A big fat NO on Julio. There will be guys on the cheap that can come in after cuts.

I think breeland and maybe Ingram. But kind of doubtful on Ingram now. Taco, tim ward and the new guy just may be what they roll with.

They made it clear the were ready to move on from Okafor after camp with taco.

I just don't see us bringing in another big name FA. I think we're bumping the cap right now if you count the money needed to sign our draft picks. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing back Breeland if he'd go for the $3M range. As far as WR, either dump some of the trash at the bottom of the roster or roll with what we have.

What’s our cap space?

This says $9.89M, but I don't know if that counts the money needed to sign the drat picks or not. The last I read was they estimated $7M for that, however that was before the Brown trade. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/

Fisher was not very good at RT, although it was his rookie year. I would rather have Schwartz on a one year deal. So :shrug:
**** no to Earl Thomas. Sherman is a Cover 3 zone type CB and we don't run that scheme.
**** no to Julio and his recent injury stuff and his $15.3 Million guaranteed. I would love the idea of having Fitzgerald just not sure how much he has left in the tank.

We’re not signing anymore WRs. Chiefs already said Powell will be Sammys replacement

Assuming it counts draft picks, we have room for Breland and that’s about it.

There is still the Tyran extension that needs to get done and that will free up more cap space if they chose to use it on a FA or two.

Still think Dede Westbrook is the best scheme fit of the FA WRs.

Cut Wylie.

Zero dead money and Chiefs create $2.133 million in space.

Cya

Wonder if a team that drafted a wr and has one they may move on from would be interested in a trade?

I forgot the date but there is a day in May where you can sign players and they don’t count against your comp picks. I bet Veach is waiting for that

Passing game will improve based solely on the new OL. Better pass protection and a better running game will combine to make the passing game a lot easier to execute and expand upon.

The Offensive lines battles will be something. Aside from OBJ and Thuney, no one has their spot guaranteed. Amazing how Veach took that unit from one of the worst in the league to (on paper) a top 4 group in the NFL.

As of tomorrow I believe

What comp picks do you think we'll get? Reiter and Breeland aren't signed and Sammy's 1 year deal isn't a big splash. No one is breaking down the door to sign either Fisher or Schwartz. Unless something crazy happens, I think the comp picks ship has sailed for 2022.

Especially given the Thuney signing.

For better or worse, Bart doesn’t seem to be overly concerned about comp picks.

Yep he's gone and that is valuable cap space.

Don't believe players that are cut and then signed by another team count. I believe they have to complete their contract and enter FA to count towards the comp pick formula.

Ok, heres one...

Bears want to move Anthony Miller WR. Thought of highly coming out in the draft. Bears also need help on the O line and seem to like Alegretti (local kid).

Chiefs offer Alegretti and late round pick to Bears for Miller?

Could work for both teams.

Id be really surprised if some kind of addition isn't made at wide receiver. Wether that be a blockbuster trade for Julio or sign a Dede Westbrook or Golden Tate. A Tyreek injury and that wide receiver room is pretty darn bare.

Casey Heyward is a FA and 31. Nice option for us if Breeland doesn’t work out

We had a 4th and 5th round comp pick this year. He isn’t “overly” concerned about it, nor should he be. You don’t pass up opportunities to get better for comp picks. You get them when you can and you work around the rules to try if possible, but other than that, they shouldn’t stop you from adding talent.

I’m also hoping we could bring him in.

That seems like a major projection to assume that better offensive line play will make Hardman/Robinson/Pringle into more consistent WR’s.

Some of you just can't let Fisher and Schwartz go. That ship has sailed.

Until 2, possibly 3 of the following prove themselves, Allegretti isn't going anywhere - LDT, Long, Niang, Smith, Blythe, Humphrey. Who knows what kind of shape LDT is in, how long will Long last, Niang is unproven, Blythe is a 1 year tryout, and Smith and Humphrey haven't even tasted KC BBQ.

OverTheCap.com reporting $9m in avail Cap Space? Interesting.

What's the estimate on how much Cap Space a Mathieu extension would win us? Who is currently on the team that might be cut post-draft? What's the most Cap Space we can obtain?

Orlando Brown is playing on his current contract this season, and can be franchised at around $16m the next year? Correct? Also, If Frank Clark doesn't produce this year, is he a potential cut after next season along with Hitchens?

...Plenty of room to work with actually. Presents some interesting options for a team with very few holes.

Honey Badger has a $14.5M salary this year.

Bert could easily clear $10M with an extension.

That’s a WR, DE, and CB when combined with the existing space.

^Based on the above scratch math, it seems to me we could indeed squeeze Julio Jones $15m contract in if we restructured Mathieu. People forget we were trying to pay Trent Williams $20m annually and were in on JuJu!

Next year Julio's contract goes down to $11m and say Hitchens comes off our books, we franchise tag Orlando, and we're still good.

A Frank Clark cut is probably not available until 2023 due to his dead money, but we wouldn't need to cut him to make it work and maybe he restructures as well by then.

Vreeland, Ingram, and Tate and that's a wrap. 15-2 Superbowl champs

I'm on the Julio Trade Bandwagon now!!! lol

We'd be unstoppable with this OL and the Best Weapons in the League, not to mention the future GOAT QB!

Jarran Reed should open up the pass rush for us this year, add Breeland at CB + Julio and we're un****ing-stoppable!

1,000 posts?

Too many mites, not enough spread wings in sunshine time. Go play with Rodgers Julio.

With the deadline tomorrow to exercise 5th year options for 2018 1st rounders, those who have not yet had a reported decision on theirs:

DAL Leighton Vander Esch
TEN Rashaan Evans
NE Isaiah Wynn
ATL Hayden Hurst
SEA Rashaad Penny
PIT Terrell Edmunds
JAX Taven Bryan
NE Sony Michel

No, we need to keep Allegretti. He played really well at LG this year. We have a bunch of people on one year contracts. He can fill any of the IOL positions.

He's going to struggle to make it, there's only so many spots.

also, gentlemen, let us not forget:

Antonio Callaway, who IF he's got his life straightened out, is a real and legitimate game-breaking NFL talent. The fact that we've not overspent in FA or taken a guy early in the draft tells me that Veach and Reid might really like this player that they stashed away on the PS last season.

Here's what Matt Miller had to say about him in 2018 prior to the draft:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nd-browns-pick

"based on talent alone, Calloway would be a top 3 receiver in this draft".

Sorry, I don't know how to embed (okay, boomer)

he's 5'11, 200 lbs. and 24 years old.

I'm just saying.

I don't expect a big splash WR signing. Some bargain shopping perhaps.

I would think his versatility would keep him on.

He can play any interior position.

I'm out of touch, what happened with him the last couple seasons?

Preach it!

It's a pretty easy concept... Teams can't put 6 in the box and drop 7 or 8 into coverage, or they have limited pass rush. Look at any great quarterback, and their 2 or 3's become big "names" even though they were average elsewhere. Heck, Mahomes as a rookie made Albert Wilson look all-pro in his one game.

multiple drug violations.

Albert Lewis was awesome!

But he didn't play with Mahomes.

Hmmm, I feel like I've heard that somewhere before..:spock::evil:

LMAO... Albert WILSON... I will edit...

But so can Blythe, there really isn't a massive need to have 4 guys that can play center.

Here’s what I’m guessing for our 53 right now. The only other addition I’m assuming is Breeland. Obviously, we’ll pick others up, so this is just for now. Did I miss anyone?

Typed on my phone, so I’m sure there’s a spelling error somewhere.

Offense (26):

QB: Mahomes, Henne (2)
RB: CEH, Williams, McKinnon, Thompson, Burton (5)
TE: Kelce, Gray, Bell (3)
WR: Hill, Hardman, Robinson, Pringle, Calloway, Powell (6)
OT: Brown, Niang, Remmers (3)
OG: Thuney, LDT, Long, Smith, Allegretti (5)
C: Humphrey, Blythe (2)

Defense (24):
DE: Clark, Charlton, Danna, Kaindoh (4)
DT: Jones, Reed, Nnadi, Wharton, Saunders (5)
LB: Hitchens, Gay, Bolton, Niemann, O’Daniel (5)
CB: Ward, Sneed, Fenton, Baker, Keyes, Breeland? (6)
S: Mathieu, Thornhill, Sorensen, Watts (4)

Specialists (3):
P: Townsend
K: Butker
LS: Winchester

Veach will trade him to a team that has an underproducing WR with top end skill.

Watch.
Allegreti isn’t very good in pass protection and I think would be better on the right side...but has an uphill battle for snaps over there, too.

He and Wylie are the guys I’d bet on getting traded before we end up needing to cut them.

We don't know what is going to happen at RG. Seeing as we have 2 guys that have been out of the game for a year and one of them was not great before. And they are both only here on one year deals.

So here's the deal...you actually have 3 guys as Blythe was a better guard than center for the Rams.

That doesn't even take into account that Trey Smith is an option as a young player can pick up guard quickly. Add on Mike Remmers could play guard if needed.

Also Yasir Durants NFL position is guard, there's tons of options here.

Needs left unaddressed during draft?
The Chiefs don’t have a glaring hole on their roster after the draft. Instead, the team has a few areas to address. The biggest is probably signing a veteran pass rusher, such as Melvin Ingram, to be a potential starter opposite of star defensive end Frank Clark on the Chiefs’ defensive line. The Chiefs could also take a flyer on a veteran safety since they have just four players at that position following the draft. Re-signing veteran cornerback Bashaud Breeland, a starter the past two seasons, should also be pursued by Veach to continue solidifying the Chiefs’ secondary.

How has the outlook for the season changed?
After trading for Brown, the mission for Veach was to select prospects who are serviceable at other, less desperate roster needs. The Chiefs find a nice balance in selecting prospects who are both durable and productive and still have upside to grow and develop in the NFL.

The 2021 draft is likely to be remembered most for how the Chiefs finished overhauling their offensive line in acquiring Brown and Humphrey. Both players should help give superstar quarterback Patrick Mahomes greater protection, perhaps the best he has had in his five-year career, this upcoming season. Veach also provided Mahomes with two new skill-position players in Gray and Powell.

With this a draft class, Chiefs could receive valuable production this upcoming season from five prospects in Bolton, Humphrey, Kaindoh, Gray and Powell. If those players quickly realize their potential on the field, the group will be one of the best classes in the Veach era with the Chiefs.

Yeah I think Durant is likely the odd man out or at least religated to the PS.

I am figuring they will carry 9 or maybe 10 OL

Orlando Brown Jr
Joe Thuney
Creed Humphrey
LDT
Remmers

Lucas Niang, is the Swing Tackle the thought of Remmers back at LT is cringy.
Austin Blythe is the first backup at C.
Kyle Long is the first backup at RG.
Nick Allegretti is the first backup at LG.
Trey Smith, Daryl Williams, Prince Tega Wanogho all might make it to the PS.
Andrew Wylie, Martinas Rankin, Yasir Durant, Bryan Witzman might all get cut or traded, we wouldn't get anything really but hey we might be able to get another Charvarius Ward type. :shrug:

Injuries will happen so someone might start the season on PUP or IR.

I wish someone like Kenny Britt at 25 or 26 years old was available in FA.

I dont want a 32 or 33 year old WR

Best I can do is Dede Westbrook.

No. Let’s just move on.

No way Trey Smith makes it to the PS.

Nothing wrong with adding an older WR on a one year/cap friendly deal as the Chiefs need a veteran WR.

I think it is worth taking a flyer on Alshon Jeffery.

He is a big/physical WR that the Chiefs were trying to sign with JuJu and he’s familiar with the Chiefs offensive system playing for Doug Pederson.

best I can do is tree-fitty.

Heard all that stuff before. He made it almost all the way through the 6th round. If someone wanted him very bad he would not have made it that late in the draft.

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I worry about them having Sammy Watkins syndrome.

I hope Tommy Townsend 2021 is much better than Tommy Townsend 2020 Superbowl.

I’d almost take a flyer on WR Laquon Treadwell.

2020 NFL CBA makes it important to carry extra OL, so probably Chiefs go with 10 but if they do some OL trading, they might go with 9.

If the Chiefs could get some type of player swap for Nick Allegretti and/or Andrew Wylie, they should do it because they are probably odd man out.

The goal would be to have the new/young players start as soon as they are ready. It's very possible that Blythe, Long, and Remmers are the starters though.

OL (10) LT Orlando Brown, LG Joe Thuney, C Creed Humphry/Austin Blythe, RG Trey Smith/Laurent Duvernay-Tardif/Kyle Long, RT Lucas Niang/Mike Remmers. The OL backups would be the four from above that aren't starting plus Nick Allegretti or Andrew Wylie if they aren't traded.

It will be interesting to see if NFL continues the Practice Squad (COVID) rules. Teams were able to keep 16 players on PS and bring up 2 players for games. If PS stays at 16, we will probably try to slip Yasir Durant, Prince Tega Wanogho, and Darryl Williams on it.

I pretty much agree wiith you except they aren't going to sneak Smith onto the PS. Is Remmers that much better than Rankin? I've seen about all I can stand of him at LT.

With all the work we've done on the OL I'm cool with DW31 as the RB2..... But I don't trust Mckinnon ......I wonder how much it would cost to get an RB off of one of the teams that drafted one, like Cohen off of the Bears or Mcfarland off of the Steelers