Mahomes wants 20-0
 

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"The only record I have my eyes set on breaking, which would be new this year, would be going 20-0," Mahomes said. "It's not really a record to be broken I guess you would say—19-0 is the record right now—so being able to go 20-0 and being the first one to do that, that would be awesome."

Let's do it!

That would be really cool, but I think the pressure would mount as the season went on.

At the end of the day, going 1-0 in the Super Bowl is all that counts.

Cool, except the record right now is either 17-0 or 18-1.

We already have a bullseye on our team. Every week we get every teams best shot. I dont think this comment revs their passion up to beat us, they are already there.

From a practical point, say you get to 15-0/16-0, you have HFA sewn up. Do you play Mahomes, Kelce and Hill in a meaningless game just to pursue some mythical season?

No QB had ever got injured on a QB sneak. Shit happens. Every single play there could be an injury. Why risk it? Isn't the goal to win the SB? Keep your eyes on the prize.

I'm good with the goal, for sure.

Whatever the team needs to stay focused and sharp this year, works for me.

I think we will see the improved OL play and improved OL depth really pay off for KC in terms of handling lesser opponents. Easier to jump out to a lead, easier to kill the clock once it has occurred.

Late-season schedule is peachy, too. They'd have the ability to run up some big leads and rest the stars, potentially.

I ****ing love Mahomes. I hate when people shy away from stuff like that. Going even 17-0 is harder to do than even winning the Super Bowl. The goal of sports are to do legendary bad ass achievements.

Everyone remembers Bulls 72-10, Warriors 73-9, Dolphins undefeated season, even that New England team that went undefeated and ran into the Giants. Nobody is going to remember the Toronto Raptors won the NBA Finals years from now. Do great things that nobody else has done.

Too much pressure.

Would rather go 9-7 and win the super bowl rather than Pull a New England 18-1

Win another Super Bowl. The record doesn't matter.

The NFL keeps devaluing its regular season. Just like all the other sports leagues.

Why? Less teams have went 18-1 than won the super bowl.

By alot.

Why not both?

Nobody ****ing cares about regular season records but people like you.

If they can do both, fine but focus on winning the super bowl. Regular season records mean nothing.

And as far as the Bulls and Warriors people remember the rings, not the wins. People remember the 18-1 Patriots for losing in the Super Bowl.

Championships are the only thing that matters.

Rarity doesn't automatically equal value.

What Mahomes isn't considering is that Reid probably wouldn't even allow it to happen. I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't rest starters if they had HFA locked up, regardless of record.

Would be hilarious if they rested key players in the final week and still beat Denver.

I think they're trying to toe the line publicly, but it's pretty clear that Mahomes, Kelce and company are fired up to kick some ass this year. I'd love to see them just steamroll teams this year.

If I remember right, the GS Warriors lost in the finals when they had the best regular season nba record

Wait...what? You'd rather go 18-1 and lose the final game than win the SB at 9-7?

It's BWillie.

Pretty much this.

What was the Chiefs regular season record the year they won the Super Bowl?

I know it's 12-4, but I do have to think about it for a couple of seconds. "Wait, or was it 11-5?" I second guess myself, then say, "No, I remember it being 12-4" then count which games we lost to make sure I'm right.

And that's our magical Super Bowl season. I have to resort to mind tricks to remember something like that the year we won the freakin Super Bowl.

They did. But you will always remember them won't you? The goal is to do something great. People are always hung up on championships. There are other things that are ever greater feats. Winning your division "x" amt of years in a row. Winning your conference "x" amt of years in a row. Having the best record EVER in your particular sport. All of these are greater achievements than ONE Super Bowl.

This has nothing to do with the record, or the dolphins and everything to do with the one thing Tom Brady failed at. The perfect season.

ROFL

There are 52 Super Bowl Champions.

There is one undefeated team.

There is one 18-1 team.

Which one is more difficult to achieve and which is a better barometer of greatness?

Someone wins the Super Bowl every year. Nobody goes undefeated, almost ever.

It's simple math, really.

Difficulty isn't the sole arbiter of achievement. Your argument is based on raw statistics and has no subtlety or context at all.

It's downright laughable that you think the 18-1 Patriots accomplished more than the 2019 Chiefs. Laughable.

I'm not worried. I expect the Chiefs at some point to go 20-0. Then we will have the ultimate crown in all of sports. Don't be afraid of greatness. Go out and take it.

Greatness is not the Toronto Raptors beating a injured Golden State Warrior team.

Or a Tampa Bay team beating a Kansas City Chiefs team minus like eighteen offensive lineman.

Laughable.

There are three 18-1 teams: 1984 49ers, 1985 Bears, and the 2007 Patriots. The first two actually won their Super Bowls

Do you remember the 18-1 Patriots with awe? Or do you remember them as a punchline of history up there with the Buffalo Bills losing four straight Super Bowls? As great teams who went so far but are more remembered for coming up short than they are for their historic accomplishments.

If your only goal is to make history regardless of the end result, then that too can be your fate.

Who won the Super Bowl in 1971? How about 1973?

Which only further demonstrates that the Super Bowl is by far more important.

People remember that 85 Bears team for the Super Bowl and its "shuffle".

Furthermore, the reason BWillie remember the Patriots and not the other two is because they LOST.

Which defeats his entire argument. LOL

Exactly.

Correction. There are THREE teams that lost only one game. Still only one team that went 18-1. The 1985 Bears went 15-1. Nonetheless, your point remains. Pretty ****ing hard to do huh? What an achievement.

20-0 doesn't interest me nearly as much as another Mahomes era Super Bowl victory. It's not a given, and as of right now Mahomes has exactly as many rings as Trent Dilfer.

The 1971 (season) Super Bowl (played in 1972) was won by the Colts.

The 1973 (season) Super Bowl (played in 1974) was won by the Dolphins.

I'm not saying the Super Bowl isn't important. But there are records that transcend sports. An undefeated regular season is one of them. I still remember the Jerry Tarkanian undefeated NCAA season, and I wasn't even of age to even remember it. People told me all about it later. No idea who won the NCAA Championship in 1994. If would be one thing if the Patriots that went 18-1 never won a Super Bowl during their dynasty, but they did. It wasn't as if they were the Bills. Nonetheless, what the Bills did was still a historical achievement.

And still completely worthless in the grand scheme of things. They get to be a footnote in history while the Giants and Cowboys collected their rings.

Laughable.

You have been conditioned by media & other fans that the only thing that matters in sport is championships.

Championships, depending on the sport, can also be devalued. For example, I highly value championship in the NBA or MLB where you play 5 and 7 game series. Super Bowls can be devalued some in the NFL due to playing 1-game single elimination tournament where luck can come into play. Same with the NCAA Tournament. I would argue in the NFL and NCAA basketball regular season results, conference championships, division championships would be a greater barometer of true greatness.

Do you really believe the NY Giants were better than that NE Patriots team?
Do you believe if both teams were at full strength that Tampa Bay was better than last years Chiefs?

There is alot of nuance - and luck - that go into some of the championship teams runs.

There is NO LUCK OR VERY LITTLE LUCK that comes into play with sustained excellence and perfect seasons.

I tend to agree with both sides here.

I think you need the SB win to validate the greatness though, but a bad bounce or an injury can just derail it in single elimination.

ROFL

Wrong again.

Yep.

Doesn't matter. The Bucs have the rings, to the victor goes the spoils.

Life is not statistics or math. You always do this. You think everything in the world can be distilled down into an equation. It doesn't work that way. And perfect seasons without championships mean dick.

Yeah, and the Shang forces defeated the Xia Dynasty in 1675 BC. And nobody knows or gives a shit. Anyone can use google.

Well that, and BWillie is 12.

I knew those off the top of my head. Try again.

Every Patriots fan would rank the 2007 season below all six SB winners.

The 1985 Bears went 15-1 in the regular season, then won 3 playoff games for their final 18-1 record. Same with the 49ers

The other 1 loss team must have been the 1976 Raiders, who finished 16-1 (14 game season)

Then of course the 2007 Patriots

4 of the best NFL teams ever, but only 3 champions

You are very smart. You should go on the Stump the Chumps radio program with Soren Petro. Show off that random sports knowledge that 99% of the rest of the population does not care to remember.

Lions fans wake up most mornings in a puddle, remembering

You're insane if you seriously think the 07 Giants were a better team than the 07 Patriots.

They would do whatever they wanted, wouldn't make the 18-1 season any less legendary or difficult to achieve.

Nobody cares to remember 18-1 seasons other than for that fact that the Patriots lost when it mattered most. ROFL

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!

In the end it doesn't matter. One team has rings, the other doesn't. It's not even debatable.

I bet Giants fans would be rushing out to trade in that 2007 Championship for the Patriots 18-1 record.

Yeah, I sure would be. It would validate that Eli Manning was actually good, not a product of happenstance. It's going to be a travesty when he gets into the HOF.

It's not a matter of "if" the Chiefs go 20-0, but instead a question of "how many times" they can do it. Would be nice if they could do it five years in a row and get to 100-0.

ROFL

Strange comment from Mahomes just 3 years into his career and losing the SB last year. It seemed to me that the Chiefs had a great chance to get to the SB undefeated last year but they slept walk in some of the games and could have lost to some really bad teams like the Panthers and Falcons. It takes so much focus and some luck to go undefeated. Even the Patriots of 2007 as dominant as they were needed 3 Brady comebacks to go 16-0 in the regular season. A SB win is more legacy building than anything else regardless of record.

It would be one thing if he didn't have a Super Bowl. He already has the MVP, Super Bowl champ, 3 consecutive AFC Championship appearances.

I can completely see why he would want to also now get the best record in all of NFL history - 20-0.

Da Chieeefs

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The one thing he failed at so far. ;)

This just means Patrick is calling his shot that the Chiefs will win the Super Bowl next season

It's cool to talk about, but it really isn't likely.

You've gotta rest some dudes and you just wanna be healthy in December and january.

If you lost a game in October because you were doing some load management or something and you're healthy late, who cares.

I can totally see why he'd want to go 20-0 given his list of accomplishments so far. It's nice to have stretch goals, it's what keeps you moving forward and not getting stagnant.

That being said, it's still a meaningless achievement in the grand scheme of things.

So what other team in the conference will keep the chiefs from resting players the last two weeks if they actually have a shot at going undefeated?

Undefeated is a nice goal but winning the superbowl is more important.

Let's just set focus on beating the Browns and take it from there one game at a time everyone is beatable but we have our work cut out to go 20-0. Who wouldn't love that?

11-3 in 1969 when they finished 2nd to the Faid who were 12-1-1. No cares what record it took to get your playoff position, just that you won the Super Bowl.

But if the Chiefs would go 20-0 they would go down as the greatest team in NFL history.

That’s why the 84 49ers & the 85 Bears are considered great. If they had lost the Super Bowl....different story.

The Cowboys beat the Dolphins in Super Bowl VI. You are thinking of Super Bowl V when the Colts beat the Cowboys.

Dolphins did win Super Bowl VIII vs the Vikings.

If we were 15-0 or 16-0 I wouldn't rest any of the players. And as apparent from Mahomes comment, I don't think he would rest or allow the coaching staff to rest him if they had that kind of season going. That is greatness.

There is a reason the 1972 Dolphins are the only undefeated team in NFL history.

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I want to win the Super Bowl more than anything but if we lose any games just as long as it's not to the Raiders, Broncos or Cowboys i can live with what ever record. **** the Raiders twice, Broncos twice & the Cowboys.

I can't speak for anyone other than myself, but give me a 12-4 Super Bowl winner Chiefs over a 14-2 Super Bowl losing Chiefs. Don't care if they go undefeated, the priority is and should always be winning the Super Bowl. Heck, give me a 12-4 Super Bowl winner over an 18 - 1 Super Bowl loser.....

pfft...give me 8-10 Superbowls

That is what a 1/2 billion dollar Qb should do

Super Bowl wins > everything else

I think that's obvious to everyone except kansas basketball fans who want to think rare regular season achievements are more impressive than winning the title.

But I don't see anything wrong with a competitor wanting to finish a season undefeated/perfect.

I think we're going to see locked-in, ruthless Patrick Mahomes II. And that's good for the Chiefs and bad for the rest of the league.

It was and remains quite an accomplishment, but there was only a 14 game regular season schedule back then. IMO, some team would have matched it had the number of games stayed at 14.

And there was no free agency to speak of. Easy to keep 7 HOF'ers on your defense when they cant go anywhere else.

Going 18-1 and losing the Super Bowl would be a mother ****ing nightmare of epic proportions.

This is why I put the stuff in parentheses.

Are we talking about the Super Bowl that took place in 1971 (following the 1970 season) or are we talking about the 1971 season, whose Super Bowl took place in 1972?

Absolutely dumb. Winning a Super Bowl is the only goal.

Getting somebody hurt in the quest for a meaningless regular season title would be one of the dumbest things in the history of sports.

Pretty sure Bill played a bunch of his starters that Week 17 game in the year they went 18-1