Michael Jordan's Flu Game
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">24 years ago today, Michael Jordan gave us the &quot;Flu Game.&quot; <br><br>Stuart Scott&#39;s highlight will always be 💯 <a href="https://t.co/ZP2tYdjKNP">pic.twitter.com/ZP2tYdjKNP</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1403339674664456193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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GOAT

Standing by waiting for all the negative LeBron posts.....

Must be the game when he gave Bryon Russell the flu, given how he fell over on the not-a-push-off shot the following game.



(jk, I seriously don't care, but remember watching it)

By far.

Stockton/Malone were the duo I actually felt bad for in the reign of Jordan. All the rest were forebear champions to be struck down or whippersnappers who needed put in their place. Those two played well enough and long enough together you felt bad they were playing in a historic period that would blunt their accomplishments.

Kind of like if Russell Wilson had gone to even more SBs and always faced Brady and always lost, and had already retired.

I wish his acting was this good during Space Jam. His near collapse into Pippen's arms after the game still makes my eyes roll.

I hated that bastard. Best player I ever saw, though.

Hangover and cigar game? Food poisoning had to be a cover up.

Nah. Stats don't lie.

You are a clueless le bum homer

Who?

We will say this of Justin Herbert one day.

Keep waiting. This is a thread about Jordan's flu game and the greatness he displayed that night.

Of course, I'm sure KCC will be along sometime soon to somehow discredit it or compare it to Lebron in some way, but that's to be expected. He just can't help himself.




Edit: Nevermind. I see's he's already been here. Like the sun rising in the east . . . . . . .

This story keeps getting grander and grander - by the day. In 2030, It will be Jordan at a Pizza that had Super Ebolaids-19 on it and managed to win the game with one arm.

Jordan made people want to watch the nba . lebron not so much, in fact I’d rather turn it off

This is true. Watch kids on how they mimic players.
Jordan, the tongue, dunk that became Jumpman logo, jump shot.
Kobe, turnaround, smile
Steph, the 3 stroke and mouthpiece bite
Harden, stepback

LeBron, whining and flopping. Superteams.

He is still the best of his generation, but he does not endear himself.

Same. I couldn’t stand him.


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He truly hates the fact that the majority of fans, media members, former and current players/coaches, etc. agree on MJ being the GOAT.

And nothing will ever change that.

1) he didn’t have the flu. He was hungover snd possibly had food poisoning.

2) he’s the best athlete/competitor I’ve seen. That includes Mahomes, but Pat has time to catch/pass him.

Ironically, Karl Malone is the probably the NBA legend to whom LeBron compares most favorably.

Super productive for many years, but also an asshole whose game was like watching flies ****. Jordan is the GOAT. If not him, Chamberlain.

No way he had the "flu"
If you've ever had the flu you agree.
'nuff said....

Yeah, I’ve never seen a more fierce competitor. That’s what set him apart.

If his dad was never murdered, he might have 8 or 9 rings.

That was the craziest story. The Last Dance doc does a good job with showing MJ’s arc.

Lebron's legacy is much higher than Malone's.

That said, outside of suspensions, Malone hardly ever missed a game until his last season. Lebron gets injured all the time. Too soft compared to Malone.

This is so ridiculously wrong it has to be pointed out. Until his injury 2 years ago at the age of 34 after playing 16 years of basketball at the highest level anybody has ever seen, he was probably the most durable player in NBA history. There’s a reason he’s shattered (or is on the way to shattering) nearly every counting stat in the book and it’s not because he “gets injured all the time.”

We missed out on some great matchups with the Bulls going up against the Rockets when Jordan left for two years. Also missed seeing them against the Spurs in 99 after they decided to break up the team after the 98 season.

"Flu"LMAO
such nonsense

LeBron is a better parent

I'm not saying he's not the greatest, but we all know he played that flu thing up big time for the cameras. Yeah he's out there putting guys in the spin cycle on fast breaks and flying above the rim like he's in NBA Jam, but when he's on the bench and the cameras are on him he can barely stand. Yeah right. He was just bored with being good.

Also Jordan damn well might have gotten a 7th ring in 95, but the Bulls brilliant strategy against Orlando was "just leave Horace open - he can't beat us" and then proceeded to watch Horace Grant bury jumpers in their pimply asses for 6 games.

Lame James has played 1 82 game season his entire career.

Irresponsible MFer put the whole team at risk. He should have isolated in his home for two weeks. After that, he should only have been allowed around the team if he wore double masks and maintained a 6 foot distance.

MJ played 82 games in 10 out of his 14 full seasons in the NBA (not counting 94, the ‘comeback’ year) including 82 in his final season of his career in 2002 as a shell of his former self with the Washington Wizards. Thats’s right. Old man, out of his prime Jordan, managed 82 games in his final season.

Durability matters.

Yet another reason MJ is so respected and revered.

KCC reading this thread trying to resist posting:

https://i.imgur.com/EPwkJiU.gif

We’ve never seen a player as durable as LeBron James. The man has played 1,301 of a possible 1,404 regular season games across his career.

Those would be impressive stats even without taking into account the unbelievable strain put on LeBron’s body across 18 seasons of carrying his various teams offensively, defensively and emotionally.

And that’s to say nothing of his 38.3 minute career average, his 260 playoff games (without ever missing one), and all the drastically shortened offseasons that came with playing in 10 Finals, three Olympics and one World Cup.

Other than a groin injury which caused him to miss 17 games in 2018-19, James has never suffered a significant injury. And to top it off, he has retained an incredible amount of his athletic ability for someone who is 36 years old.

His 49,796 career minutes rank him seventh all-time and he’s just 316 minutes away from jumping into fifth place. Then he will be behind only Kevin Garnett, Dirk Nowitzki, Karl Malone and Kareem Adbdul Jabbar.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/basketba...rability%3famp

I would probably stop posting in threads that you don’t have a clue about.

It’s not as difficult as you’d think to ignore a bunch of posts from clueless individuals living 30 years in the past who clearly haven’t watched a game this century, no. When those who try to diminish LeBron in threads like this make lazy, baseless takes like he was injury-prone or soft, it kind of says everything about how seriously anybody should take their takes on anything basketball related.

It is about the ten year anniversary of the shut down by JJ Barrea game for LeBron.

back when the NBA mattered.....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Career 4th Q/OT shooting splits in the NBA Finals:<br><br>Michael Jordan:<br><br>107-244 FG (43.9%)<br> 4-28 3FG (14.3%)<br> 89-115 FT (77.4%)<br>44.7% eFG<br>52.1% TS<br><br>LeBron James:<br><br>149-330 FG (45.2%)<br> 25-92 3FG (27.2%)<br> 84-100 FT (84.0%)<br>48.9% eFG<br>54.4% TS<br><br>Make of this what you will.</p>&mdash; Barry McCockiner (@UltraWeedHater) <a href="https://twitter.com/UltraWeedHater/status/1403122695743606787?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice to see KCC can’t resist turning yet another thread into a MJ-Bron pissing match.

And he goes to his favorite Twitter troll to make his argument.


Nice to see some things never change around here . . . . . . .

Career losses in 4th quarters/OTs of closing games of NBA Finals.

Lebron - 6

Jordan - ZERO


Make of that what you will.

Remember Lebron in the 4th quarter against the Mavs in 2011?

https://i.imgur.com/VzcizED.jpg

Make of that what you will.

That’s a team accomplishment.

But Lebron winning in 2016, with Kyrie playing at a Finals MVP level himself too (along with making the big shot to win it all), makes him the GOAT. Because the Warriors were basically unbeatable, even though they shouldn’t have even beat the Thunder and were on the ropes down 3-1 the series before.

This is KCC logic.

Pepperidge Farm remembers

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jordan career without Scottie Pippen:<br><br>1985: 38-44<br>1986: 30-52<br>1987: 40-42<br>2002: 37-45<br>2003: 37-45<br><br>0 winning seasons<br>0 playoff series wins<br>1-9 playoff record<br>2 missed playoffs<br><br>Disgusting <a href="https://t.co/eG4Jj454AO">pic.twitter.com/eG4Jj454AO</a></p>&mdash; Barry McCockiner (@UltraWeedHater) <a href="https://twitter.com/UltraWeedHater/status/1403049697288335373?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yea including 2002 and 2003 isn’t at all disingenuous LMAO

MJ needed Pippen to help him win 6, but Lebron obviously didn’t need Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, or AD to win 4.

Lebron the last 2 years without AD:

2019: No playoffs
2021: 1st round exit

Lebron wasted a NBA Finals MVP performance from Wade in 2011. He wasn’t even the best player on his own team in a series where his team was definitely better on paper, and he still couldn’t get it done. All he needed to do was be a 1B.

Him and Wade even mocked Dirk only to get beat in the end by him. This was after The Decision and “not 1, not 2, not 3…”.

2011 will always be the time he lost the debate forever for the majority. Just a brutal blow to his legacy when comparing him to the ultimate competitor and closer.

So what you’re saying is even elite players need another great player or players around them to win trophy’s?? And that Lebron is no ‘exception to the rule’, as some might like to infer . . . . . .

This is unbelievable ground breaking news!

I can’t believe that you’re the first person to stumble upon this!!

Kudos to you, my friend, for a job well done!

This. So much this.

50 years from now the GOAT conversation will go something like this:

MJ backer: ‘Air Jordan, greatest of All Time!’

LBJ backer: ‘No man, Lebron. Come on, brah. He is the all time leader in like every meaningful statistical category’ [which he may be since he is committed to playing forever to cement his legacy]

MJ backer: ‘What about PPG?’

LBJ backer: ‘well, not counting that one’

MJ backer: ‘What about the fact that Jordan did everything he did in only 14 full NBA seasons while Lebron played like 20?’

LBJ backer: ‘That’s because Bron was more durable and held up better over the long haul’

MJ backer: ‘You know Lebron only played one full 82 game season his entire career, right? And MJ played a full 82 game season 10 times out of his 14 full seasons in the league. AND that he walked away from basketball for basically 2 years to pursue a side hobby cause he was so bored with dominating everyone else in basketball?’

LBJ backer: ‘No man, that was because of his dad dying . . . . and he only did that because he wasn’t as committed as LBJ man. MJ quit on his team.’

MJ backer: ‘You mean like Lebron did at the end of 2 of his first 3 years with the LakeShow?’

LBJ backer: ‘No, man. He was injured. That was different.’

MJ backer: ‘But I thought you just said he was more durable than MJ a little while ago?’

LBJ backer: ‘Stop it, man. You’re confusing me with your circular logic and stuff. I don’t care what you say, man. Lebron was the greatest and the numbers prove it out’

MJ backer: ‘Which numbers? You mean like 6-0 in the NBA Finals?’

LBJ backer: ‘That’s nothing. Lebron went to 10 NBA Finals. I mean, yeah he lost 6 of those, but that wasn’t his fault. He didn’t have good enough players around him. And Jordan had Pippen man. Dude was a HOFer’

MJ backer: ‘That’s true. But didn’t LBJ win his only titles playing with Dwayne Wade, Kyrie Irving, and Anthony Davis? Those were pretty damn good players in their own right. A couple HOFer’s in there’

LBJ backer: ‘Yeah, but Jordan played on super teams in his two three peats’

MJ backer: (blank stare)

LBJ backer: ‘I’m over this man. I don’t care what you think or say. LBJ is, was and will ALWAYS be THE greatest!’

MJ backer: (Brief pause) . . . . . . ‘So explain to me 2011? . . . .’

LBJ backer: . . . . . . . *crickets* . . . . . . . . *still crickets* . . . . . . ‘Go **** yourself’ [Ends conversation and walks out door]

Lebron has 1 impressive championship. It's a damn impressive championship. Coming back to beat that Golden State team and giving the Cavaliers a title was one of the best championships in NBA history.

Lebron should've stayed with Cleveland. If he stayed there and won a fist full of rings, his legacy would look so much better to me.

This is a MJ thread. Get that mother ****ing shit the **** out of here.

You can thank KCC for that (as usual)

But you’re right. No reason to devote any more time talking about an inferior player in an MJ thread.

My bad.

Most iconic performance ever. Schilling's bloody sock game is right behind it.

I think the dumbest argument in sports is losing in the championship game is worse than losing in rounds before that. Royals losing in 2014 and the Chiefs losing last year were way better ****ing seasons than if they lost early in the playoffs.

And this is a strawman that people, especially Lebron stans, go to.

Nobody has ever said that.

How does this pertain to the Flu game?

Back when the defenses were tougher.

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Flu game relevance? Or relevance to quoted post even?

John Stockton was more durable. Don't post false facts. Stockton only missed around 30 games in his career. Mostly in one season. He had 17 seasons where he didn't miss a single game. Keep in mind when you research the stats that 1999 was a shortened season. He played every game between the age of 36 to 41.

Malone was also more durable then Lebron.

How often were Malone, Stockton, or Jordan injured at 34? Yeah Lebron was durable until recently. Not anymore.

Once again, he was nowhere near the most durable in NBA history. Unless NBA history for you is the last 15 years. Hence my post above about Stockton's amazing durability.

Patrick will never be known as universally better than Brady until he beats him in a playoff game.

That has to happen or it won’t matter

Nobody is contesting Stockton or Malone's durability here, though. Saying a guy is injury prone when he's played as many games as LeBron has over 18 years is just plain wrong. Accounting for the playoff games, he has played the most games of anybody in history over a 18 year period.

Well MJ retired at the age of 34 and didn't actually play any of his age 35 through age 37 years (where LeBron has finally suffered a few injuries) so we'll never know. MJ then injured his knee in his 1st year back at age 38 and missed about a quarter of the season.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Winning 7 rings isn&#39;t luck!!!&quot;<br><br>14 top 10 defenses<br>season ending fumble overturned<br>season ending INT overturned<br>season ending INT turn into a 23 yard catch<br>teammate make a SB winning INT on the 1 yard line<br>multiple SB wins scoring 13 points<br>multiple CCG wins with 3 INT&#39;s<br><br>LUCK</p>&mdash; Barry McCockiner (@UltraWeedHater) <a href="https://twitter.com/UltraWeedHater/status/1403482481257496586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe there’s an NBA playoff thread somewhere so Lebron ballwashers could discuss his current team’s chances in the finals.

JFC. Stay out of these threads.

Cry more. The thread has basically consisted of a bunch of idiots just trashing LeBron with no real facts whatsoever.

I don't know. I had the flu once. I thought as I walked up the stairs, this is what it is going to feel like when I am 80 yro.

If, indeed, he did have the flu, it must have been VERY minor or as others have suggested, food poisoning (if that was the case, why not just come out and say that) or extreme hung over (wouldn't want to say THAT).

There was probably good acting for any of the above.

Just not the flu.

Hopefully we are back on track with the OP, not pissing contests about who is better.

An aside:

Baseball GOAT:

Babe Ruth, CF Willie Mays, LF Barry Bonds, RF Hank Aaron, CF Ty Cobb, LF Ted Williams, Cal Ripken

Babe was the best, most home runs...oops not, ah all the others 'roided up.

Mays: most RBI's, but had a corked bat

Bonds: most home runs, but 'roided.

Aaron: most stolen bases, but cheated because he had wings on his shoes.

Cobb: caught the most fly balls, but he used 2 gloves and he was a dick.

Williams: ran to first base the most, but he voodoo'd the first base man to flinch.

Ripken: Iron man and didn't miss a game, was just an average player.


You can make a point that each one was the GOAT with what ever stat you want. Comparing between generations is pointless. There can be a case made for Big Ben and Tommy boy.

How can you compare Johnny Unitas and Payton?

But I digress and see how addictive it is to get roped into a pissing contest and I don't even have a dog in this fight. I have only seen on NBA game (MJ' last one) that was not what this thread was about.

I want to see Tommy play with the flu:)

Fake flus?

And KCC brings his Lebron shit into another thread with nothing to do with LBJ.Might as well let Donger and Pete back into the Covid thread, Hootie start a betting thread, have some Alex Smith debates, and let KC Native post his dick pics all over while we are are at it.

The sock was bull crap.

You can tell a lot about a man by his sock.

Michael Jordan was the Patrick Mahomes of basketball.

Michael Jordan is to Tom Brady as LeBron James is to Patrick Mahomes.

Definitely not true.

He retired much earlier than Lebron and had more scoring titles, MVPs, first-team defensive awards, Finals MVPs etc..

Mahomes will surpass Brady in all award categories with the exception of titles.

Tough to compare player for player. MJ is a combo of PM2 and Montana. LBJ is more of a Brady/Jim Kelley combo.

Of course. Just as LeBron will surpass (or has already surpassed) MJ in every individual statistical category with the exception of titles won.

Lebron doesn’t have more mvps, Finals mvps, defensive first-team awards, scoring titles etc

Mahomes will have more mvps, offensive player of the year awards, passing yards leader, pass rating leader etc

Mahomes will do it better than Brady, most likely in a shorter amount of years just like Jordan compared to Lebron.

Again, I have no dog in this.

But isn't this the main point? Number of Rings et al?

MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, World Cup, Gold Metals, Masters

Again, you can spout all sorts of numbers in different categories: best this, best that etc.

The bottom line is "Rings".

And still off topic from the OP on the "Flu Game".