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BryanBusby 06-16-2021 06:32 PM

Permasuck Edwards serving up the Death Penalty for ASU
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Updated story on alleged ASU recruiting violations from <a href="https://twitter.com/DougHaller?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DougHaller</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BruceFeldmanCFB</a> <br><br>* Herm Edwards now directly implicated.<br><br>* &quot;Hiding&quot; recruits in a stadium suite during COVID dead period.<br><br>Much more.<a href="https://t.co/6vr4OVL6B2">https://t.co/6vr4OVL6B2</a></p>&mdash; Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) <a href="https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1405285211928023042?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

Prison Bitch 06-16-2021 06:34 PM

Thread title is false

New World Order 06-16-2021 06:36 PM

You play to win the game

BryanBusby 06-16-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15710796)
Thread title is false

How so, bitch?

Some major violations including references of paying players and violating covid recruiting restrictions. This is exactly the type of squad that the NCAA makes an example of, to a ridiculous level.

Forks in 'em

MTG#10 06-16-2021 06:37 PM

Squirmin Herman! God those were dark times...

Frazod 06-16-2021 06:59 PM

No Herm thread is complete without a Buehler contribution. :D

Kiimo 06-16-2021 07:15 PM

Knowing what we know about Herm Edwards it is extremely not-surprising that he never bothered to like, even learn what is and is not a recruiting violation.

notorious 06-16-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15710824)
No Herm thread is complete without a Buehler contribution. :D

Bueh probably wrapped his spray rig around a power line pole when he saw the thread title.

Frazod 06-16-2021 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15710841)
Bueh probably wrapped his spray rig around a power line pole when he saw the thread title.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/Yk3CHhjkOkxSE/200.gif

HemiEd 06-16-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15710883)

ROFL

Hammock Parties 06-16-2021 08:23 PM

So Herm had no honor?

I'm incredibly disappointed.

Herm Warfare was a false flag.

Buehler445 06-16-2021 08:33 PM

Yeah, **** Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

I’m not pissed at him for cheating. I’d have done it too. I could never stand his holier than though schitck. More importantly I’m pissed off at the Chiefs for not seeing right though that like the tissue paper facade it really is. He’s no different as a college coach than he was a pro coach. Pure ****ing fraudulent bluster.

It bears repeating. **** Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

Buehler445 06-16-2021 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15710841)
Bueh probably wrapped his spray rig around a power line pole when he saw the thread title.

Nah. More like:
https://img.fireden.net/co/image/159...4983023718.gif

Renegade 06-16-2021 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15710922)
Yeah, **** Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

I’m not pissed at him for cheating. I’d have done it too. I could never stand his holier than though schitck. More importantly I’m pissed off at the Chiefs for not seeing right though that like the tissue paper facade it really is. He’s no different as a college coach than he was a pro coach. Pure ****ing fraudulent bluster.

It bears repeating. **** Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

You forgot to end your rant with ****donk forever

Hammock Parties 06-16-2021 08:39 PM

I'm really disappointed. I thought Herm was a good guy.

Rams Fan 06-16-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15710800)
How so, bitch?

Some major violations including references of paying players and violating covid recruiting restrictions. This is exactly the type of squad that the NCAA makes an example of, to a ridiculous level.

Forks in 'em

Because they won't get the death penalty and you're being hyperbolic.

The only programs within the past 20 years or so that have earned or deserved the death penalty were Penn State football, Baylor football, and Baylor basketball.

They'll get a slap on the wrist like Ole Miss.

FloridaMan88 06-16-2021 08:51 PM

Herm should be permanently banned from football for crimes against the sport including the drafting of Broken Croyle as a supposed QBOTF and employing Dick Curl.

displacedinMN 06-16-2021 08:54 PM

Why am I not surprised this happened to him. POS coach, recruiter, tv person.

I agree with all hatred that has been posted before this.

Fansy the Famous Bard 06-16-2021 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15710946)
Herm should be permanently banned from football for crimes against the sport including the drafting of Broken Croyle as a supposed QBOTF and employing Dick Curl.

Didn't you mean to say "The Ghost of Dick Curl" ?

Deberg_1990 06-16-2021 08:58 PM

Herm was a solid coach who was hamstrung by Carl. making the playoffs with Damon Huard was some kind of miracle.

BryanBusby 06-16-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15710934)
Because they won't get the death penalty and you're being hyperbolic.

The only programs within the past 20 years or so that have earned or deserved the death penalty were Penn State football, Baylor football, and Baylor basketball.

They'll get a slap on the wrist like Ole Miss.

You take things a bit too literally. They are absolutely going to be made an example out of and they don't compare to Ole Miss.

Ole Miss refused to cooperate while apparently people allover ASU are willing to sing like a bird.

Death Penalty? Probably not exactly, but they will have the hammer dropped on them.

Rams Fan 06-16-2021 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15710971)
You take things a bit too literally. They are absolutely going to be made an example out of and they don't compare to Ole Miss.

Ole Miss refused to cooperate while apparently people allover ASU are willing to sing like a bird.

Death Penalty? Probably not exactly, but they will have the hammer dropped on them.

Sure, they’ll have bowl bans and scholarship reductions. But they aren’t getting the initial Penn State treatment or what Baylor basketball had a few years after shit hit the fan and they could only play conference games.

Buehler445 06-16-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 15710929)
You forgot to end your rant with ****donk forever

Nothing in here about the Donks.

Unless Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards is going to the Cheating ****ing Donko Bitch****s?

If that's the case I'll laugh for a month straight.

Also if that's the case, **** Donk Forever.

Willie Lanier 06-16-2021 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15711026)
Nothing in here about the Donks.

Unless Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards is going to the Cheating ****ing Donko Bitch****s?

If that's the case I'll laugh for a month straight.

Also if that's the case, **** Donk Forever.

That would be glorious

eDave 06-16-2021 11:11 PM

Sucks he got caught. ASU was relevant again.

The man loves him some Scottsdale. That's for sure.

kccrow 06-16-2021 11:45 PM

Until the day comes that the NCAA investigates Alabama, I could care less what they do.

HemiEd 06-17-2021 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15710959)
Herm was a solid coach who was hamstrung by Carl. making the playoffs with Damon Huard was some kind of miracle.

His wife had to tell him that the Chiefs backed into the playoffs when the most unlikely chain of events happened.

Then he proceeded to throw the playoff game to endorse his buddy Dungy.

Damn you for bringing up those memories, I need to go stab myself in the face.

RedinTexas 06-17-2021 05:57 AM

The Chiefs have had worse head coaches record-wise, but I hate Herm the most. I don't care if he is/was a good guy, what he did to my favorite team is unforgivable.

wazu 06-17-2021 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 15711121)
The Chiefs have had worse head coaches record-wise, but I hate Herm the most. I don't care if he is/was a good guy, what he did to my favorite team is unforgivable.

Vermeil did that. Herm was just the one left trying to clean up the mess.

Frazod 06-17-2021 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15711145)
Vermeil did that. Herm was just the one left trying to clean up the mess.

I loathe that weepy prick. Assembled the greatest pre-Mahomes offense we ever had and a defense that couldn't stop a good high school team from dropping 40.

Deberg_1990 06-17-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 15711115)
His wife had to tell him that the Chiefs backed into the playoffs when the most unlikely chain of events happened.

Then he proceeded to throw the playoff game to endorse his buddy Dungy.

Damn you for bringing up those memories, I need to go stab myself in the face.

Carl traded a 4th rounder for Herm. :ROFL:

FloridaMan88 06-17-2021 11:34 AM

JFC there are still Herm apologists all of these years later.

The usual dumbshits.

Kiimo 06-17-2021 11:35 AM

As an aside, nobody will ever get the Death Penalty again. There's too much money to be made than to bury a program

Renegade 06-17-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15711597)
As an aside, nobody will ever get the Death Penalty again. There's too much money to be made than to bury a program

This is the truth. If Penn State didn't get it, nobody will ever receive it again.

Buehler445 06-17-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15711145)
Vermeil did that. Herm was just the one left trying to clean up the mess.

Wrong-o.

Years ago Zilla white knighted Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

His postulation was Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards was exactly what we needed because we needed to get younger. And all in all he was pretty close.

I couldn’t let such ridiculous positions stand unchallenged so while I should have been sleeping I went through the career of each player on the final roster of Vermiel and the final roster of God ****ing Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards had successfully and wholly decimated the Chiefs roster. HILARIOUSLY Vermeils final roster had more players play 3 years than Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

So in terms of serviceable players, there were more years of service remaining on Vermiels team than Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and his “youth movement”.

Now I know that’s not what you said, but Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards, while not inheriting an optimal team, that loudmouth fraud **** wasn’t cleaning up shit. He was just doing his normal ****ing dogshit floundering around and blathering on about bullshit.

Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards was completely and wholly ****ing worthless. **** that ****ing guy.

wazu 06-17-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15711750)
Wrong-o.

Years ago Zilla white knighted Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

His postulation was Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards was exactly what we needed because we needed to get younger. And all in all he was pretty close.

I couldn’t let such ridiculous positions stand unchallenged so while I should have been sleeping I went through the career of each player on the final roster of Vermiel and the final roster of God ****ing Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards had successfully and wholly decimated the Chiefs roster. HILARIOUSLY Vermeils final roster had more players play 3 years than Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

So in terms of serviceable players, there were more years of service remaining on Vermiels team than Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and his “youth movement”.

Now I know that’s not what you said, but Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards, while not inheriting an optimal team, that loudmouth fraud **** wasn’t cleaning up shit. He was just doing his normal ****ing dogshit floundering around and blathering on about bullshit.

Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards was completely and wholly ****ing worthless. **** that ****ing guy.

Herm sucked, but he also didn't matter. That team was going to be bad. Vermeil was given carte blanch and got to reshape the team in his image and completely mortgage the future in the process.Vermeil was given 5 years. Herm was given 3. They have identical playoff records.

Pitt Gorilla 06-17-2021 03:16 PM

You cheat to win the game.

Pitt Gorilla 06-17-2021 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15711147)
I loathe that weepy prick. Assembled the greatest pre-Mahomes offense we ever had and a defense that couldn't stop a good high school team from dropping 40.

Pretty sure Carl assembled those teams.

FloridaMan88 06-17-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15711965)
Pretty sure Carl assembled those teams.

Vermeil and Al Saunders implemented the offensive system that made Trent Green, Priest Holmes, etc. successful.

Buehler445 06-17-2021 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15711787)
Herm sucked, but he also didn't matter. That team was going to be bad. Vermeil was given carte blanch and got to reshape the team in his image and completely mortgage the future in the process.Vermeil was given 5 years. Herm was given 3. They have identical playoff records.

:spock:

Really?

After watching Veach completely and wholly revamp the defense, then do the same with the OL, you’re going to tell me that the 2006 Chiefs were unequivocally ****ed? That’s … weird.

Now I’m no huge Vermiel homer but I’m not going to sit here and say the team he left was completely worthless. I get wanting to crucify him for the playoff collapses. Crucify away man. But that team wasn’t that bad. And had a lot of players that played a long time.

MTG#10 06-17-2021 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15711977)
Vermeil and Al Saunders implemented the offensive system that made Trent Green, Priest Holmes, etc. successful.

Yep. Trent doesn't get near the respect he deserves around here. He was statistically better than Manning in his prime for a couple years with Morton and Kennison as his starting WR's. It wasn't his fault our D was the worst in team history...

Pitt Gorilla 06-17-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15711977)
Vermeil and Al Saunders implemented the offensive system that made Trent Green, Priest Holmes, etc. successful.

Correct and Carl was responsible for assembling the players.

wazu 06-17-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15711993)
:spock:

Really?

After watching Veach completely and wholly revamp the defense, then do the same with the OL, you’re going to tell me that the 2006 Chiefs were unequivocally ****ed? That’s … weird.

Now I’m no huge Vermiel homer but I’m not going to sit here and say the team he left was completely worthless. I get wanting to crucify him for the playoff collapses. Crucify away man. But that team wasn’t that bad. And had a lot of players that played a long time.

Vermeil had gone 7-9, and 10-6 the past two years prior to Herm being hired. During those two years the only three players they drafted who had any business being on a pro football field were Jared Allen (2004), DJ (2005) and Colquitt (2005). Allen was awesome. DJ hadn't figured it out yet, and Colquitt is a punter we spent a 3rd round pick on.

Herm inherited that team, minus Willie Roaf, but plus Ty Law. Trent Green got knocked out half the season and was never the same, but they pretty much held serve with what Vermeil had been doing and went 9-7, making the playoffs, and losing.

It's fine to hate on Herm, but I find Vermeil to be more the disappointment. Vermeil had Trent Green and basically everything else he wanted. Herm had Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen.

Chief Pagan 06-17-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 15711996)
Yep. Trent doesn't get near the respect he deserves around here. He was statistically better than Manning in his prime for a couple years with Morton and Kennison as his starting WR's. It wasn't his fault our D was the worst in team history...

Trent was good and I enjoyed watching him play, but have you forgotten about Trint?

Does he deserve more respect than he gets?

He wasn't the only QB's who could have put up those stats in that offense.

Buehler445 06-17-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15712028)
Vermeil had gone 7-9, and 10-6 the past two years prior to Herm being hired. During those two years the only three players they drafted who had any business being on a pro football field were Jared Allen (2004), DJ (2005) and Colquitt (2005). Allen was awesome. DJ hadn't figured it out yet, and Colquitt is a punter we spent a 3rd round pick on.

Herm inherited that team, minus Willie Roaf, but plus Ty Law. Trent Green got knocked out half the season and was never the same, but they pretty much held serve with what Vermeil had been doing and went 9-7, making the playoffs, and losing.

It's fine to hate on Herm, but I find Vermeil to be more the disappointment. Vermeil had Trent Green and basically everything else he wanted. Herm had Damon Huard and Tyler Thigpen.

No question he was a disappointment. But guess who else was given carte Blanche to build their team - QB included - Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards. And the 08 team is the team he decided to build.

HemiEd 06-17-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15711458)
Carl traded a 4th rounder for Herm. :ROFL:

And a 1st or 2nd for Vermeil, don't remember which as Trent was also in that mix.

chiefzilla1501 06-17-2021 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15711750)
Wrong-o.

Years ago Zilla white knighted Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

His postulation was Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards was exactly what we needed because we needed to get younger. And all in all he was pretty close.

I couldn’t let such ridiculous positions stand unchallenged so while I should have been sleeping I went through the career of each player on the final roster of Vermiel and the final roster of God ****ing Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards had successfully and wholly decimated the Chiefs roster. HILARIOUSLY Vermeils final roster had more players play 3 years than Squirmin Herman Morher****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

So in terms of serviceable players, there were more years of service remaining on Vermiels team than Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and his “youth movement”.

Now I know that’s not what you said, but Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards, while not inheriting an optimal team, that loudmouth fraud **** wasn’t cleaning up shit. He was just doing his normal ****ing dogshit floundering around and blathering on about bullshit.

Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards was completely and wholly ****ing worthless. **** that ****ing guy.

Herm was not a very good coach. But he was right to blow the team up to smithereens considering vermeil and gun put that team in insane cap hell for trying to buy playoff games they couldn't win. He handed Pioli a dream situation for a GM - a young roster with a gazillion dollars in cap space and it got pissed away.

Sorry not sorry.

FloridaMan88 06-17-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15712015)
Correct and Carl was responsible for assembling the players.

Vermeil and Al Saunders initiated the Chiefs interest in acquiring Trent Green and Priest Holmes.

The Rams were looking to trade Trent Green and the Ravens had minimal interest in keeping Priest Holmes.

So Carl’s “achievement” was being a facilitator… congrats.

tk13 06-17-2021 08:28 PM

It was a team effort, Vermeil stuck with Greg Robinson way too long. But even when that was done, Gunther was basically thrown on him which was always weird because he was the guy Vermeil replaced. I don't recall any other team ever doing something like that. And if you remember Gunther stuck around for Herm, then threw him right under the bus on the way out. Said everyone knew he wasn't a zone defense guy. Even with Herm's shortcomings, why stick him with a DC who hated Herm's defensive philosophy?

Really all of that comes back to Carl. Stayed way too long, didn't draft well enough and shoved a DC on his last two coaches who apparently hated the style of defense he was being hired to coach.

Rams Fan 06-17-2021 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15712351)
It was a team effort, Vermeil stuck with Greg Robinson way too long. But even when that was done, Gunther was basically thrown on him which was always weird because he was the guy Vermeil replaced. I don't recall any other team ever doing something like that. And if you remember Gunther stuck around for Herm, then threw him right under the bus on the way out. Said everyone knew he wasn't a zone defense guy. Even with Herm's shortcomings, why stick him with a DC who hated Herm's defensive philosophy?

Really all of that comes back to Carl. Stayed way too long, didn't draft well enough and shoved a DC on his last two coaches who apparently hated the style of defense he was being hired to coach.

Closest I can think of is Dave Campo with the Cowboys.

chiefzilla1501 06-17-2021 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15712351)
It was a team effort, Vermeil stuck with Greg Robinson way too long. But even when that was done, Gunther was basically thrown on him which was always weird because he was the guy Vermeil replaced. I don't recall any other team ever doing something like that. And if you remember Gunther stuck around for Herm, then threw him right under the bus on the way out. Said everyone knew he wasn't a zone defense guy. Even with Herm's shortcomings, why stick him with a DC who hated Herm's defensive philosophy?

Really all of that comes back to Carl. Stayed way too long, didn't draft well enough and shoved a DC on his last two coaches who apparently hated the style of defense he was being hired to coach.

Let's not forget a despicable draft history from his buddy Lynn stiles. Then instead of blowing the team up trying to bandaid the team with Damon Huard and Damion McIntosh.

A halfway competent DC gets us a playoff win under vermeil. Even a below average draft track record during the vermeil years would have done it. Instead we ended up with a geriatric roster we kept putting on a credit card. By the end of Carl's run he was running a front office of cigar buddies.

FloridaMan88 06-17-2021 08:56 PM

Compare how Carl tried (and failed) to improve the defense during the Vermeil years to how Veach rebuilt the Chiefs defense in one offseason into a Super Bowl-caliber defense.

Pablo 06-17-2021 09:01 PM

That helmet in the op is queer as hell.

Buehler445 06-17-2021 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15712226)
Herm was not a very good coach. But he was right to blow the team up to smithereens considering vermeil and gun put that team in insane cap hell for trying to buy playoff games they couldn't win. He handed Pioli a dream situation for a GM - a young roster with a gazillion dollars in cap space and it got pissed away.

Sorry not sorry.

Still wrong dude. That team was straight ****ing shit save what did we decide - 6 dudes.

Stay wrong, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15712379)
That helmet in the op is queer as hell.

Holy ****. How did I not notice that.

FloridaMan88 06-18-2021 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 15712226)
Herm was not a very good coach. But he was right to blow the team up to smithereens considering vermeil and gun put that team in insane cap hell for trying to buy playoff games they couldn't win. He handed Pioli a dream situation for a GM - a young roster with a gazillion dollars in cap space and it got pissed away.

Sorry not sorry.

Herm handed Fat Scott a team with Broken Croyle as it’s supposed franchise QB.


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