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TEX 07-30-2021 03:18 PM

Carson Wentz out indefinitely.
 
Looks like he may be broken again...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...injury-sources

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...h-foot-injury/

Rausch 07-30-2021 03:21 PM

Well, that sucks. Colts can't catch a break...

srvy 07-30-2021 03:24 PM

I have no sympathy for them as they had a good one they chose to not protect and take care of.

BWillie 07-30-2021 03:25 PM

The next Andrew Luck.

Supposed to be good.

Never actually good.

Pablo 07-30-2021 03:27 PM

Perfect. **** you Indy

TLO 07-30-2021 03:29 PM

Hate to see injuries. Feel a little bad for Wentz. Feel 0% bad for the Colts.

R Clark 07-30-2021 03:31 PM

Yeah screw the colts

eDave 07-30-2021 03:34 PM

It's good to be a Chiefs fan.

notorious 07-30-2021 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 15763731)
Well, that sucks. Colts can't catch a break...

**** them with with the aircraft carrier Nimitz.

This has all worked out beautifully.

They cheat the system to get the next great QB.

He does awesome, then shits on their face by quitting at the last second!


Oh it’s ****ing beautiful.

RealSNR 07-30-2021 03:49 PM

Starting to feel sorry for the Colts and their QB woes...


...oh, wait... no, sorry. I screwed that up. I meant the OPPOSITE of that. The Colts deserve every ounce of bird shit that gets dumped on them by the football gods for the next 50 years.

alpha_omega 07-30-2021 03:54 PM

What else do they have?

Ebolapox 07-30-2021 03:56 PM

I mean, at this point I’m convinced him and prince Harry really did switch places

alpha_omega 07-30-2021 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 15763794)
What else do they have?

Not much it doesn't look like.

Wentz, Carson T/Phi
Eason, Jacob 20/4
Ehlinger, Sam 21/6
Morton, Jalen SF21

srvy 07-30-2021 04:20 PM

Alex Smith come on out of retirement.:hmmm:

Hoopsdoc 07-30-2021 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15763780)
**** them with with the aircraft carrier Nimitz.

This has all worked out beautifully.

They cheat the system to get the next great QB.

He does awesome, then shits on their face by quitting at the last second!


Oh it’s ****ing beautiful.

LMAO

They didn’t cheat any system to get Luck, regardless of how many times you say it.

TEX 07-30-2021 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15763853)
LMAO

They didn’t cheat any system to get Luck, regardless of how many times you say it.

I think he means they tanked, and they did. So, isn't that "cheating?" :shrug:

cdcox 07-30-2021 04:30 PM

Dang, there goes my Sandbox QB in league 1.

notorious 07-30-2021 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15763853)
LMAO

They didn’t cheat any system to get Luck, regardless of how many times you say it.




The rest of the team imploded at just the right time, went from one of the best teams in the NFL to THE WORST, just when the best prospect in 20 years was coming out.

Your team is getting exactly what it deserves if you believe they didn't tank on purpose.

FlaChief58 07-30-2021 04:32 PM

Too bad for him, **** the colts

Hoopsdoc 07-30-2021 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15763856)
I think he means they tanked, and they did. So, isn't that "cheating?" :shrug:

Well, it’s not cheating, but they didn’t do that anyway.

Hoopsdoc 07-30-2021 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15763859)
The rest of the team imploded at just the right time, went from one of the best teams in the NFL to THE WORST, just when the best prospect in 20 years was coming out.

Your team is getting exactly what it deserves if you believe they didn't tank on purpose.

The rest of the team was exactly the same. The only difference was Peyton Manning broke his neck and couldn’t play.

Look, I get that you guys really want it to be true, but it’s just not.

TEX 07-30-2021 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15763864)
Well, it’s not cheating, but they didn’t do that anyway.

Um...."Ok."

TEX 07-30-2021 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15763873)
The rest of the team was exactly the same. The only difference was Peyton Manning broke his neck and couldn’t play.

Look, I get that you guys really want it to be true, but it’s just not.

Look, I get that you really want it not to be true, but it just is.

TEX 07-30-2021 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 15763859)
The rest of the team imploded at just the right time, went from one of the best teams in the NFL to THE WORST, just when the best prospect in 20 years was coming out.

Your team is getting exactly what it deserves if you believe they didn't tank on purpose.

Pure "coincidence!" :rolleyes:

Hoopsdoc 07-30-2021 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15764027)
Look, I get that you really want it not to be true, but it just is.

Ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess. :shrug:

vailpass 07-30-2021 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15763856)
I think he means they tanked, and they did. So, isn't that "cheating?" :shrug:

They definitely tanked. Let me ask you this: would you have been ok with KC tanking if that’s what it took to get Maholmes?

Hoopsdoc 07-30-2021 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15764069)
They definitely tanked. Let me ask you this: would you have been ok with KC tanking if that’s what it took to get Maholmes?

They didn’t tank, unless you consider losing your hall of fame quarterback to a neck injury “tanking”.

sully1983 07-30-2021 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 15763731)
Well, that sucks. Colts can't catch a break...

Huh? The Colts are probably the luckiest NFL franchise there is . Peyton Manning fell in their lap and they had a great franchise QB for over a decade, then Andrew Luck falls in their lap after tanking an entire NFL season. Their owner is a pill popping/ alcoholic junkie that is a total embarrassment and disgrace.

https://nesn.com/wp-content/uploads/...jim-irsay1.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...sc2zfhnjpg.jpg

https://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-...rested-DUI.jpg
And their fans are total band wagon dbags. I say **** em. **** me all. :thumb:

vailpass 07-30-2021 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15764076)
They didn’t tank, unless you consider losing your hall of fame quarterback to a neck injury “tanking”.

Definitely not arguing that. I meant they tanked for Luck. And yeah, maybe I need to rethink that.

Hoopsdoc 07-30-2021 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 15764080)
Definitely not arguing that. I meant they tanked for Luck. And yeah, maybe I need to rethink that.

They drafted Luck number 1 the year they lost Manning to his injury.

They went 2-14 because Bill Polian is an egomaniacal douchebag who decided that 1. because HE drafted Curtis Painter and HE could never be wrong, Painter was a competent quarterback, despite the fact that Painter NEVER showed any sign whatsoever of being one and 2. because Chris Polian was his son, he was capable of running an NFL team.

He was hilariously wrong on both counts and by the time he finally conceded that and signed Kerry Collins, the season was shot. He paid for his ignorance with his job. Everyone paid for his ignorance with their jobs. Irsay completely cleaned house and drafted Luck.

That’s not tanking.

PHOG 07-30-2021 07:14 PM

https://media.tenor.com/images/959b2...6db5/tenor.gif

Beef Supreme 07-30-2021 07:24 PM

I feel so bad for the colts. No, wait, I just needed to fart. This is the other side of recovering your own fumble for a touchdown. Eat it ****sticks.

Spott 07-30-2021 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 15764077)
Huh? The Colts are probably the luckiest NFL franchise there is . Peyton Manning fell in their lap and they had a great franchise QB for over a decade, then Andrew Luck falls in their lap after tanking an entire NFL season. Their owner is a pill popping/ alcoholic junkie that is a total embarrassment and disgrace.

https://nesn.com/wp-content/uploads/...jim-irsay1.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...sc2zfhnjpg.jpg

https://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-...rested-DUI.jpg
And their fans are total band wagon dbags. I say **** em. **** me all. :thumb:

He looks like a 50 year old version of X Factor.

Holladay 07-30-2021 08:39 PM

Quote:

Wentz was benched in favor of Jalen Hurts with the Eagles last season after being sacked 50 times and throwing 15 interceptions in 12 games.
50 TIMES...

Not rooting for the Colts, but, 50 times? No wonder he is broke dick. Another reason Luck left.


Just googled the most sacked QB in a season: David Carr has been sacked the most by a quarterback in a season, with 76 sacks in his rookie season in 2002.

I am not sure if I believe that.

More digging.

Rank Player Team Pos Value
1 Russell Wilson Seattle Seahawks QB 52
2 Carson Wentz Philadelphia Eagles QB 50
3 Deshaun Watson Houston Texans QB 49

Humm...


I remember the CP was saying "suck for Luck". A tell tale sign of a good organization vs a bad one.

Imagine if Pat went anywhere else? What if the Bills got him? If not for Andy, where else would have he fit in?

ChiefRocka 07-30-2021 09:12 PM

Sounds Lisfranc’ish

Frazod 07-30-2021 09:15 PM

He’s the Steven Strasburg of football.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-30-2021 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15764197)
He looks like a 50 year old version of X Factor.

Ya, he does look quite a bit younger than X-Factor, doesn't he?

eDave 07-30-2021 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 15764240)
Ya, he does look quite a bit younger than X-Factor, doesn't he?

Haha.

Halfcan 07-30-2021 09:31 PM

Not sure if this was mentioned yet--but **** the Colts!

FloridaMan88 07-30-2021 09:33 PM

This could hurt the draft pick the Eagles would get from the Colts, so Wentz is continuing to screw over Philly.

FAX 07-30-2021 10:35 PM

I'm beginning to feel sorry for this dude.

Not really, though.

FAX THE BORDERLINE EMPATHETIC

sully1983 07-30-2021 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15764197)
He looks like a 50 year old version of X Factor.

I was thinking that he resembles a much less muscular version of the actor Stephen Lang (Don't Breathe, Avatar, Tombstone, Gettysburg etc etc). Only the thing is Mr Lang is an awesome / talented as hell actor who has been in a bunch of good to great films , while Jim Irsay is a total national disgrace who has no business being an NFL franchise owner.

https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/...ang-Update.jpg

ThyKingdomCome15 07-30-2021 11:22 PM

Goff and Wentz signing those big deals looks worse all the time.

I feel for Wentz though. He never bounced back after that ACL injury. He was a front runner for MVP before that. Now this, that's rough.

oldman 07-31-2021 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 15763821)
Not much it doesn't look like.

Eason, Jacob 20/4
Ehlinger, Sam 21/6
Morton, Jalen SF21

Combined 0 snaps in the NFL.

I don't know what network they had on in the bar I was at lunch in yesterday, they had clips of Wentz trying to throw and it wasn't pretty.

BWillie 07-31-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 15764077)
Huh? The Colts are probably the luckiest NFL franchise there is . Peyton Manning fell in their lap and they had a great franchise QB for over a decade, then Andrew Luck falls in their lap after tanking an entire NFL season. Their owner is a pill popping/ alcoholic junkie that is a total embarrassment and disgrace.

https://nesn.com/wp-content/uploads/...jim-irsay1.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...sc2zfhnjpg.jpg

https://jocksandstilettojill.com/wp-...rested-DUI.jpg
And their fans are total band wagon dbags. I say **** em. **** me all. :thumb:

hahah i'd party with that guy. I remember when he got stopped and had like 13k in cash with him and he got flack. Who doesn't have 13k of cash on them? You never know when there will be a poker game...or hookers to pay...or blow to consume.

Sassy Squatch 07-31-2021 01:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> downplayed Peyton’s neck injury in 2011. He missed the season.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> downplayed Luck’s shoulder injury in ‘17. He missed the season.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> downplayed Luck’s ankle injury in ‘19. He retired.<br><br>Carson Wentz’s injury started off minor. The updates have only gotten worse.</p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1421219261259915267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Spott 07-31-2021 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 15764317)
I was thinking that he resembles a much less muscular version of the actor Stephen Lang (Don't Breathe, Avatar, Tombstone, Gettysburg etc etc). Only the thing is Mr Lang is an awesome / talented as hell actor who has been in a bunch of good to great films , while Jim Irsay is a total national disgrace who has no business being an NFL franchise owner.

https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/...ang-Update.jpg

He does look like an alcoholic/part-time methhead version of him. There’s a ton of old drunks that sport that same look at just about every beach bar in Florida.

Tribal Warfare 07-31-2021 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15764880)
He does look like an alcoholic/part-time methhead version of him. There’s a ton of old drunks that sport that same look at just about every beach bar in Florida.


https://www.eightieskids.com/wp-cont...020/02/2-1.jpg

Pablo 07-31-2021 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15765237)

Looks too sober to be Isray.

The Colts deserve that sort of ****ing loser running their shit football team. If they never make the playoffs the rest of my life I'd be ecstatic. **** Indy. I hope the next QB they draft has knees made of pulled pork.

Tribal Warfare 07-31-2021 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 15765252)
Looks too sober to be Isray.

The Colts deserve that sort of ****ing loser running their shit football team. If they never make the playoffs the rest of my life I'd be ecstatic. **** Indy. I hope the next QB they draft has knees made of pulled pork.

Lang being a method actor was almost fired because he showed up drunk playing Ike

CasselGotPeedOn 08-01-2021 03:26 PM

This has disaster written all over it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: Carson Wentz will rest, will not have immediate surgery. <a href="https://t.co/fuCwlsgGrX">https://t.co/fuCwlsgGrX</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1421905136805421059?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rabblerouser 08-01-2021 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15763729)
Looks like he may be broken again...

I don't think that he's ever not been broken, even when he was MVP or whatever.

rabblerouser 08-01-2021 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15766233)
This has disaster written all over it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: Carson Wentz will rest, will not have immediate surgery. <a href="https://t.co/fuCwlsgGrX">https://t.co/fuCwlsgGrX</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1421905136805421059?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's like "wait...you have to pay me regardless, right? Yeah, totally not having surgery."

Wentz is always thinking "team first."

rabblerouser 08-01-2021 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15765237)

Cut your mother****ing pimp's heart out.

old_geezer 08-01-2021 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15766233)
This has disaster written all over it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Report: Carson Wentz will rest, will not have immediate surgery. <a href="https://t.co/fuCwlsgGrX">https://t.co/fuCwlsgGrX</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1421905136805421059?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did he hire Eric Berry as his agent?

staylor26 08-01-2021 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 15766372)
Did he hire Eric Berry as his agent?

:clap:

Kiimo 08-01-2021 04:44 PM

Hmmm when you have a foot injury that requires surgery I think the best thing is to just not get it and just, you know, see what happens. So that it can linger all season and then have the surgery in week 10 when you have already won too many games to tank for Spencer Rattler

rabblerouser 08-01-2021 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15766382)
Hmmm when you have a foot injury that requires surgery I think the best thing is to just not get it and just, you know, see what happens. So that it can linger all season and then have the surgery in week 10 when you have already won too many games to tank for Spencer Rattler

Can't get ahead of oneself. Some situations are literally taken "day-to-day."

Sassy Squatch 08-01-2021 04:56 PM

I won't blame him for the sudden Luck retirement, but Ballard already pumped WAAAAY too much into QBs that were mediocre at best.

Brissett 2/30
Rivers 1/25

Now he's dropped draft capital and a sizable chunk of cap into a mentally broken, oft injured reclamation project that's already staring down a season of ineffective play at best. The least amount of damage this deal can be is 2/47. Ouch.

Flying High D 08-01-2021 09:12 PM

It had as much chance of being a first as a DeBerg thread had of being worthwhile.

second can turn into a first under these two conditions:

Carson Wentz plays 75% of the offensive snaps in 2021
Carson Wentz plays 70% of the offensive snaps in 2021 and the Colts reach the playoffs

Sassy Squatch 08-02-2021 10:00 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: Frank Reich says Carson Wentz had an old foot injury dating back to perhaps high school according to doctors. Over time, the broken bone came loose and caused pain. The decision has been made to undergo surgery and remove it. 5-12 weeks.</p>&mdash; Stephen Holder (@HolderStephen) <a href="https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/status/1422223567903731718?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 08-02-2021 10:04 AM

Time to retire like Andrew Luck.

smithandrew051 08-02-2021 10:08 AM

I am very surprised by this news

PattyFlakes 08-02-2021 10:18 AM

The Colts sure do love them some broken QBs. I’m absolutely stunned that such a durable guy like Wentz is hurt.

Hoover 08-02-2021 10:25 AM

Great job of doing the medical before that trade.

ReynardMuldrake 08-02-2021 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15767180)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: Frank Reich says Carson Wentz had an old foot injury dating back to perhaps high school according to doctors. Over time, the broken bone came loose and caused pain. The decision has been made to undergo surgery and remove it. 5-12 weeks.</p>&mdash; Stephen Holder (@HolderStephen) <a href="https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/status/1422223567903731718?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They're amputating his foot?

Kiimo 08-02-2021 10:38 AM

It’s hilarious that Wentz still has the ability to crush Philly’s hopes and dreams

Dunerdr 08-02-2021 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 15767286)
They're amputating his foot?

What would you do mr dr? Of course they are how else do you get bad bones out? Next, his throwing hand because he broke a thumb in youth league bowling.

dlphg9 08-02-2021 11:04 AM

None of these ****ing teams from college to the NFL, all the medicals during the combine and not one team caught this broken bone.

Mennonite 08-02-2021 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 15767286)
They're amputating his foot?


Can't you read, dummy? From the tweet: "The decision has been made to undergo surgery and remove It". Honestly, how can anybody read that and get that they are going to amputate his entire foot? LOL. It's obvious that what he's saying is that Wentz's foot has been inhabited by a demonic clown from the 1980s (which can develop into a very serious condition if left untreated) and are taking preemptive measures.

Beep beep, Irsay.

Dunerdr 08-02-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15767357)
None of these ****ing teams from college to the NFL, all the medicals during the combine and not one team caught this broken bone.

sounds fishy.

Eureka 08-02-2021 11:30 AM

So are they really going with a rookie in Elason?

Maybe, trade for another starter? Maritoa available?

OR

Get on the phone with Rivers or Luck.

Kiimo 08-02-2021 11:36 AM

I hope he calls himself Eazy-Eason and tells the locker room he's got bitches galore

FloridaMan88 08-02-2021 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15767418)
So are they really going with a rookie in Elason?

Maybe, trade for another starter? Maritoa available?

OR

Get on the phone with Rivers or Luck.

Acquiring Nick Foles from Chicago is probably their most realistic/lowest cost option.

Kiimo 08-02-2021 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15767443)
Acquiring Nick Foles from Chicago is probably their most realistic/lowest cost option.

Somewhere Carson Wentz screams in a hospital bed

Hoopsdoc 08-02-2021 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 15767418)
So are they really going with a rookie in Elason?

Maybe, trade for another starter? Maritoa available?

OR

Get on the phone with Rivers or Luck.

They signed Brett Hundley but it looks like they’re gonna roll with Eason until he shows he can’t handle it.

Skyy God 08-02-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15767459)
They signed Brett Hundley but it looks like they’re gonna roll with Eason until he shows he can’t handle it.

The Colts deserve all the bags of dicks the universe has to offer.

Ballard is a competent, spineless GM. Irsay is a sentient baggie of meth. Their fans are fat humps with the personality and intellect of vanilla wafers.

In summary, **** those guys.

Kiimo 08-02-2021 12:03 PM

I thank my stars every night that Ballard didn't become the Chiefs GM. His conservative nature would drive me insane, that's some Same Ol Chiefs bullshit. For every Quenton Nelson there are five free agents he's passed on to save money for the owner

TEX 08-02-2021 12:10 PM

Would be funny if the Colts trade for Nick Foles, he comes in and kicks ass under Frank Reich again. Would probably send Wentz over the deep end. LOL!

Eureka 08-02-2021 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 15767459)
They signed Brett Hundley but it looks like they’re gonna roll with Eason until he shows he can’t handle it.

So their basically now in the same camp as the Broncos.

Well Jacob at least has the pedigree to be an NFL QB.


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