Why is Dan Sorensen playing so much?
 

Dan Sorenson has played in 97% of this teams defensive snaps. That is 2nd only to Sneed, who has 1 snap more than him.

Dumbasses may say, well he leads the team in tackles!

Well that means Jack and Shit if you don't know where he's making those tackles.

So, that's what I wanted to find out and it's exactly what anyone with a god damn brain already knew. He's making tackles well after the ball carrier has went past the line of scrimmage.

Dan Dan The Wait Until They Come To You Man has made 30 total tackles. The offense has gained 217 yards of offense on those 30 tackles good for 7.2 yards per play.

That's worse than the average yards per play this junk ass defense allows, which is 6.9.

His yards per play allowed breaks down to this

0 or less yards - 3 tackles (-9, -2, 0)
1 to 4 yards - 6 tackles (1, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4)
5 to 9 yards - 9 tackles (5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 8, 8, 9, 9)
10 to 20 yards - 9 tackles (10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 20, 20)
21 to 30 yards - 2 tackles (21, 21)
30 or more yards - 1 tackle (43)

The fact that he's leading in tackles also shows how shit everyone up front has been.

Bench this lame ass bitch

IDK, but i can say Thornhill had a bad whiff on Sunday.

I was like, "Hey, 22 sighting" and then he proceeded to whiff badly on a tackle.

Lunch pail kind of guy

I don't know and its getting annoying

He’s slow and can’t tackle. I’ve seen enough. Thornhill can’t be any worse right?

I remember that play. At least the guy jumped over him and went out of bounds.

Dirigible Dan

He's like Mariano Rivera. They should only play him at the end of games to get a big INT.

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^^ that type of play is why

A defensive back thats making tackles past the line of scrimmage. Are you ****ing reeruned?

He leads the team in tackles and you're bitching about him! Are you ****ing reeruned??

He actually got us through the playoffs the last two years with his heads up plays! Are you ****ing reeruned?

someone link the video of dan sniffing out that fake punt by the texans

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People LOVE Dirty Dan!


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He can tackle, that’s why

Anybody remember Dan hitting Derrick Henry so hard he knocked him out of the game ,IN THE PLAYOFFS!

dirty dan appreciation thread

Looks like the braindead reeruns are here.

It damn sure isn’t because of his coverage skills, speed or ability to make tackles in open space.

And I wish they'd quit starting stupid threads!

... you made a thread about a DB making tackles beyond the line of scrimmage.

What did you expect?

How about all the missed tackles he has? Also he's not the player he was 2 years ago. He's past 30 now and he's giving up more and more plays while there are less splash plays.

He's never been great in coverage and has been picked on, without the splash plays though he's just a straight liability.

He’s alright. He’s a coaches son who plays faster than he appears.

Would somebody email Andy and ask him to tell Dan to start making tackles at the Line of scrimmage??

He's slow, a liability in coverage, misses tackles, and strangely out of position in a lot of plays. Although that last point might be because of Spags scheme being too complex.

If Thornhill is somehow worse than Sorensen right now, we are in deep, deep shit.

He has multiple wives and shares them with the coaching staff.

So, if he leads the team in tackles that means what you say here is not correct or the rest of the defense is worse than Dirty Dan. Please explain!

Dan has 30 tackles

Honey Badger has 15

But Dan is slow, out of position and misses tackles.

Last year Dan had 91 tackles (leading the team)

Honey Badger had 62

He misses a lot of important tackles that are the difference between a critical stop or a first down for the opponent.

I'm pretty sure he has a lot of tackles because of the nature of his position and the fact that the ball is thrown in his direction because he's slow.

Short version - he tackles a lot, but 99% of his tackles aren't valuable, and a lot of the ones he misses are extremely painful because they lead to 10+ extra yards for the opponent.

How many missed tackles for each?

He probably leads the league in invaluable tackles. LMAO

PFF probably tracks that shit as a "stat"

He has lots of tackles because he can't prevent the receiver from making the catch.

He has had some big moments but he can't cover well and he's slow. He can hit and plays rough boy ball but overall he's limited. He's a los safety.

Hes one of if not the outright leader in missed tackles in the league right now.

Mathieu has been playing free safety more than any other year of his career. Spags is essentially taking him out of plays for some reason

Maybe its because he sux at tackling, which he does.

He can't be too far behind in broken coverages.

So if he leads the league in missed tackles and also leads the team in actual tackles then he must have a nose for the ball like no other. That literally means he's in on every play.

Or...teams target the slow player who can't really cover or tackle.

I'd like to know how many of his tackles are against the run. It has to be 50%

A Linebacker should be leading the team in tackles. If a safety is doing that then he's a special player.

Might as well drop Justin Houston into coverage.

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Or the front seven isn't doing their ****ing job.

We can't blame EVERYBODY here.

Grit

Because idiots like Hog are using the stat to say Sorenson is better than HB.

Are you really using the statistic of tackles to compare Dan Sorensen and Tyrann Mathieu? ROFL

Sit back and WATCH Mathieus tackling technique. Mathieu is only good for a few spec plays a year. His production isn't near where it should be for his pay grade.

Oh, and by the way tackles are kinda important.

The coaches like him. They think he plays pretty well. End of story.

Which we should all be grateful that they don't pay the average CPer any attention at all.

LOL. Okay. You're right. Daniel Sorensen is good, and Tyrann Mathieu is not. Gotcha.

So you think Sorensen is a good player? Do you think coaches can't make bad decision? Or what exactly is the point of this post other than your normal homer shit.

You've been deep throating players and defensive coaches this whole time even though we have the worst defense in the league. Why can't you just say they're playing and coaching terribly?

I've said it before.


Dan's the bipolar girlfriend. One moment she makes you orgasm so hard you black out, the next moment she's keying your car.

Well Vern, it's like this: I never actually said DD was good; go back and reread my post. I quite clearly said "The coaches like him. They think he plays pretty well. End of story."

Remember?

And I never said anything about whether the coaches can make bad decisions. Just that they liked him.


And let's not forget one other thing, Vern: I've been right far more often than I've been wrong about the defense since 2019. Oh sure, I've made mistakes and made some bad calls, but I've owned them all. But overall I've been right more often than i was wrong.

And I'm betting that professional coaches with multiple decades of experience are probably right far more often than a bunch of keyboard warriors that never played a down in their lives.

just sayin'.

Dirty Dan is a folk hero. Shame on you for throwing shade on his name!

So why even be on a football discussion board if you are just going to go with whatever the coaches/GM do. What's there to discuss?

Hes just here to be the brave white knight for the coaching staff and front office. The guys a bigger homer than Staylor.

Short version, make a tackle, save a TD = valuable. But that's just my take. How can you make a satement like that when he has 3 (10%) for negative or no yards, 6 (20%) for 1-4 yards, and 9 (30%) within 5-9 yards? That's 60% of his tackles and he's a safety.

He's baby-sitting.

It's literally the same exact thing he was doing the first 11 weeks or so of the 2019 season. He's 'staying home' to try and help out the corners.

What I honestly don't understand is why Thornhill hasn't fully taken back his role. He looks healthy enough to me, and he has to be close to caught up book-wise by now?

100% of the snaps. Are you ****ing kidding me? They're gonna run their god damn mouths about earning playing time and blah blah blah, but that god damn mother****er was solely responsible for allowing 2 TDs in the 1st half. It's time to fire Spags. It's embarrassing.

It's probably Big Red.

He seems to get hung up on certain players for seemingly unexplainable reasons.

I am fine with Sorenson playing coverage linebacker in dime and taking Nieman off the field.

I am not fine with Sorenson playing safety.


Just play Fenton there in our scheme and keep Sorenson away from those responsibilities.

Oh dear Lord.

I never said that anyone should blindly follow any coach/GM.

In fact, if you read any post of mine on any subject, I'm pretty much against that kind of zealotry.

What I said was that I'm pretty sure that the coaches are more knowledgeable than you as it pertains to football or their players. Most of the time. Hence that little word "probably."

I know, that's a moot and obvious point to make, but that's what I said.

But nowhere do I say you can't have a discussion. I never said DD was playing well. Or that he was a 'good' NFL player. Just like I never said the coaches were right about DD. just that they liked him.

I know those statements are probably a little too precise in their meaning for a large percentage of CPers, but if it helps, I also thought they'd be received almost exactly how you received them.

How many tackles did he miss?
How many times did he totally blow his coverage, leaving his man completely running free?
He gave up 21 points in the Buffalo game all by himself. Are you going to show those vids too?

Sorenson does make some huge plays in crunch time, he does. He is one of the few guys on our Defense that will put his body on the line to really hit someone. But for every big play he makes, he misses 4?, 5?, 6? during the rest of the game.

Did you watch the Buffalo game? Did you see him running around in circles, lost as holy ****? It was obvious that Buffalo planned to go after Sorenson because they considered him the weakest link in our secondary. Who can blame them? If an offense can catch Sorenson in man coverage in space, it's over.

Sorenson needs to be used more like a 2-Down linebacker than a Safety.

Ideally you want Thornhill to track down Diggs deep in the secondary. That has a lot to do with the one calling the shots. It's upsetting.