This isnt a playoff team...
 

Defense just sucks too ****in' much.

No pass rush, safeties can't cover over the top, LB's are slow.

The defense takes all of the wind out of this team's sails.

It’s a wildcard team that can win 1 playoff game as its ceiling

Won't sniff the playoffs. Right?

But Veach is a mastermind, right?

OP is close enough to pete for this to count

That's a bit much. We're about to go into the soft part of the schedule. It's hard to believe we wouldn't finish in the top 7 in the AFC.

Now whether we can win a playoff game is another story.

Defense is worse than 2018 and the offense isn't nearly that good. Wildcard if we're lucky.

Playoffs but they won't get to the SB. This defense is worse than 2018 right now

They’ll be lucky to win seven games. Need to start figuring out what contracts are dumpable who is tradeable and how much willing and dealing they can do in the draft. 10,15,87 and the starting offensive line is all they’ve got. Everyone else is replaceable. Trash team.

Pound Chiefs SB futures. A CoMo prediction is the kiss of death.

Don’t be dumb. We’re still a playoff team. We beat the Browns and should have beat the Ravens and Chargers if not for turnovers. And that’s WITH this pathetic defense.

Plus, the second half schedule is so easy we’ll still end up winning 12 games.

But we won’t beat the elite teams in the playoffs. Certainly not 3 straight on the road (which is what it’s gonna have to be). Just not happening this year.

This defense is just too much for even football Jesus to overcome.

Hopefully they fire Spags and completely rebuild the defense this off-season.

It’s just not working.

It's no longer 1993, no matter how much this place thinks it is.... Mahomes and the offense is obviously having an off night or it could easily be 24-24 right now.

This isn't even your 2018 team.

This is your DV team that scores 30ppg but goes 7-9 because of the shit defense.

The Browns and Chargers, 6 touchdowns in the 4th quarter?

47-42?!?!

They won't make the playoffs with defense like that, JFC!!!

But its not.

Stop putting lipstick on a pig.

Yeah, this looks more like a Greg Robinson defense than a Bob Sutton defense.

At least Bob’s defenses could bring pressure and get sacks.

We can’t even ****ing do that.

I would gladly take the Chargers or Browns defense over this shit show we've seen this yr.

Thirty points my ass

The difference is that that's a regular score for us.

Still pretty early for this talk. We are not healthy in many ways. We could very well be one of those teams that finally gets healthy and figures out how to play in the back half of the season and then just roll through the playoffs. Bucs last year is one of many examples.

The chargers have more then one WR who is nfl caliber and an actual RB. Chiefs offense is easy to scheme take away 10 and 87 and they can’t do anything.

Yep..Can't be taken seriously with this defense.

**** yes, CoMo makes Pete look like Bobby Fischer

Don't they need to be 11-6 or 10-7 to be a wildcard team?

Id say 11-6.

They're halfway to 6 losses after tonite unless Chiefs come storming back.

I don’t know, man. We’re losing to the Cowboys and the Packers, so that’s 5 losses and that assumes we win both against the Raiders and beat the Chargers (should’ve last time but they’ll probably play better as well). Certainly the Titans could beat us. And that’s assuming we avoid a pants shitting against a Denver or a WFT or Bengals type team. There absolutely is a window to 7 losses. 10-7 probably get us in, but like you said and like is obvious to anyone with eyes, we’re maybe a 1 win post season team at best.

This isnt a playoff team...
 

Maybe finally the Chiefs futures price will drop a decent amount after this game if they lose.

Our remaining schedule gaurentees us something like 10 - 13 wins this season. We should be able to make the playoffs. The real worry is will this team have found its footing by then.

Right now the defense looks like overpaid prima donnas, not wanting to lay the wood. There’s no heart. No passion. Nobody wanting to make a statement. I’m not exactly sure what’s wrong, but O-Lines are decimating the middle of our D-Line and Frank Clark gets taken out of too many plays at end. Jarran Reed is dogshit. Hitchens is soft. Honey Badger is a great player, but still takes plays off. The D sucks as a whole. Where the **** is one great player out of 11? There’s no excuse for 11 starters to be this bad.

Huh? This team isn't guaranteed shit right now. They're 2-3 and made Jalen Hurts look like Dan Marino last week. There's lots of tough games remaining and that's ignoring that crappy underdog teams are frequently competitive in the NFL.

I don't know what's worse. The Chiefs struggling or the fans attitude because we've had our first major rough patch in years. Jfc.

Gonna stay optimistic. At worst we just have to get past this season and get these shitty defense contracts off the books. But we've turned this thing around before.

And it's hard to get upset since most of those contracts were a huge part of winning a super bowl.

There's no point.

I fought for years against "some people just want to be miserable!!"... because it usually meant people were complaining when the Chiefs were 3-0 in September but had zero chance at playoff success.

This team is a few plays from being 4-0 coming into tonight and is obviously playing poorly on both sides of the field.... and now we're missing the playoffs.

Yeah, it sucks they really aren't looking like a SB-winning team this year, but they'll be in the discussion for the next 20 years. They'll make the playoffs. They could get their shit together and go to another AFCCG or even win it, because no team is invincible and this team knows how to win in the playoffs.

Yet, the miserable ****s are nothing new here... every bad quarter or bad play just justifies the "because Chiefs" mentality that bad shit will always happen forever. A portion of this fanbase is stuck in the 90s and stuck in the "because Chiefs" forever.

Some people simply want to be miserable and find something to complain about.

Many are assuming the remaining schedule will be a cake walk, but when the defense is this bad anything can happen.

You realize we have been missing some of our most important players on defense to start this year right lol? Not to mention all the new faces needing time to gel...

WAS
NYG
LV X 2
PIT
DEN X 2
CIN

That's 8 very winnable games plus the two we already won. Also there's equally no guarantee we continue to play this bad and never revert back to our average level of play this season.

Effort and scheme poor on D.

Allen running back plays and our linebackers no interest in knocking his teeth out.

I'm mad we kept Hitchens and didn't sign Ingram.

When Jones comes back he needs to go back inside.

Reid needs to get Spags to find changes or move on immediately.

Otherwise, this d will sink us.

Knowing that the Chiefs will now make the playoffs makes me feel better about that first half!

A rough patch is when Mahomes/Tyreek/Kelce eventually miss extended time due to injury, or start to show their age.

It isn't 'a rough patch' when the main drivers of the team are performing their superstar duties, but the rest of the team is such liquid gooey dogshit that even those stars can't drag them to a prime time home crowd win.

we looked like shit at this point in the season in 2019, too.

We lost to GB, Houston, Indy on Sunday Night, and TEN.

Sometimes, you need a wake-up call. I'd rather lose to BUF or BAL now, in the regular season, and then start peaking in Nov/Dec to go on a run...

Hopefully the Chiefs are taking this extra time at the half to search the stands of Arrowhead for some people that may actually want to play defense this evening.

This team will be lucky to be 6-4 like that team was when they flipped the switch.

I'm fervently hoping for wake up calls and turnarounds as well. And I've long been a proponent of how healthy and dialed-in you are in January being a woefully underappreciated metric, often more important than record or base roster. But they won't do it until they do it. And what they're doing in the meantime is nearly record-setting for failure.

Put it this way, I don't know the future, . . . but I know history, . . . and Marino in Miami and Stafford in Detroit played decades of football just like this. It's something to be vigilant against. Or Manning in Indy if you prefer, who also had a 1-1 SB career there, that depended on the vitality of the defense. Wasting tons of record-breaking seasons with all-around mediocre teams.

That’s a good perspective and I tend to agree with you. My point is, these players have outlived their usefulness to our defense. Next offseason should help a great deal in freeing up money and roster spots, but this year’s defense is hard to be enthusiastic about in my book. The D needs a major overhaul. Most of the players being trotted out there aren’t good enough and it shows. I expect Clark, Reed, Hitchens, and Sorensen to all be shown the door in the offseason, possibly even letting Honey Badger walk. Whatever it takes, but this need defense needs addressed.

That's why I said it's our first rough patch in years. People didn't give up on the Chiefs because Mahomes got hurt. They knew we were a good team who got burned by an injury.

Fans now are coming to grips that we aren't dominant right now. We are still better than most of the league. And people are acting like we're complete trash. It's bandwagon bullshit. I'm frustrated as hell right now and yeah, I know the rest of the season will be a grind. I also realize how damn good we have it.

I’m so tired of the time to gel bullshit. There are flat out incompetent players on this team that should be benched. You continue to allow them to play it tells guys like jones “don’t worry about your little wristy problem poor baby you still get a check”. The lack of fire and idiocy of the defense has spread to the offense now. No one on this team outside of hill, Kielce and Mahomes actually play like the nfl is keeping score.

The irony is that Sorensen was a big part of that turnaround. And now removing him is hopefully a big part of this turnaround. I remember in green bay we got gashed by simple screen passes so we started shadowing Sorenson on the rb.

Now we have to get him the hell out of there. Hell, find creative ways to get odaniel in there. Why the hell is he even here if we don't intent to play him.

Disagree completely. When Mahomes was out, we were holding our breath for him to return and salvage the season. And outside decent and improving O-line, Mahomes, and our primary receivers, . . . we are in the lower echelons of the league across the roster and coaching staff.

top notch...hate to see talent wasted.

Exactly.

I don't know if it's just chicken littles being pussies or people really think there's a fine line between every team or what.... but, most of the league is absolute trash and that's not the Chiefs.

Playing close games against playoff/championship game/SB contenders and losing some of them doesn't make your team trash and doesn't make your team a .500 team.

It's a real thing that everyone is building around beating the Chiefs and teams are treating these games like it's their SB... and yeah, the league has adjusted, and the Chiefs will have to adjust back and get better.

2015 Chiefs were 1-5 then railed off 10 in a row and was 11-5 for the season

That was with Alex Smith lead team.


We have Patrick ****ing Mahomes the Second. Patrick makes things happen we are a resilient team that has proven to make come backs and we can make a come back for nother title run and win it all.

This defense with mostly the same players was borderline top 10 last year. We have enough talent to not be this bad.

And our coaching staff has an elite offensive staff. Still a little uneasy with spags but he has an excellent staff under him. We may be a few pieces away from turning this around. But let's not get carried away with us having nothing to work with.

I cannot believe Sorenson was allowed to get back on the field

Folks - he might be right.

This defense is worse than anything G-Rob or Sutton ever sent out there and for some bizarre reason they feel compelled to ‘establish the run’ by wasting first down over and over again.

This feels like a lack of talent combined by rank arrogance.

Without Veach hitting on draft picks (which he wont) how long is that window shut for the Chiefs as Mahomes contract grows? 5 years?

I think it's a bit premature to say the Chiefs aren't a playoff team but its obvious the defense is a big, big problem that won't make it easy to get there and certainly not likely they go far.

I think we'll make the playoffs but I won't be nearly as confident as I was the past three seasons

Lol

307 yards for Allen THIS TEAM IS ANOTHER WAIST OF MAHOMES YOUTH THIS TEAM ****ING SUCKS! They deserve to be bottom dwellers SO, who are we going to draft @ # 15? OMG this ****ing team is back to the ****ing 90's! GOD ****ING DAMN IT!

We have until the 1st road playoff game to fix the defense and stop making really really really STUPID turnovers.

They look like team that's in the rebuilding process.
They're always having to comeback from behind.
Spags has to go.

7-10 team right now.. Allen and Herbert are both outplaying Mahomes right now. Offense can’t figure out how to consistently beat that cover 2, Defense can’t rush the passer. Absolute garbage product on the field right now.

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team is in disarray

All it took to beat the best QB in the history of the sport is determination and hard work.

Wish the Chiefs had that drive right about now.

Maybe someone should buy the franchise a drawing board.

we can still beat anybody in the NFL if the offense is on. The offense was off today though.

Offense was off this game...

Offense was off against Baltimore...

Offense was off against the Chargers....



11 turnovers in 5 games is not getting you a winning record

It's a parity league, anyone can beat anyone when they're on.

The offense hasn’t been on all year. And the defense doesn’t exist. Again. It’s a seven win team.

This team is lazy period.

^Patriots fan should STFU
This team isn't your business.

They’re unfocused.

They’re a team that needed to be embarrassed and I worry even THAT won’t be enough.

I really don’t know what to do with this squad. Now every unit on the field is underperforming.

AFCW is gone wild card at best

I’m sure we’ll make the playoffs, but I’m getting tired of every game being the “redemption game” for some team that we’ve dominated over the last few years.

Remember when Mahomes was talking shit about going 20-0?

As Bane would say:

"Victory has defeated you".

This team has lost its way and have become complacent.

The offense was on just last week... Lol.

This is the 3rd embarrassing loss and still little to no reaction so who knows…

**** no. It isn't. Mods banned me from the game thread like this is Twitter.

We could try showing up.

Might make things a little more difficult for them.

This was an absolute ass-beating. The Chiefs got rolled from the first drive forward.

When we stepped on our dicks 3 times in the very first drive, we should’ve known we were in for a long day.

This team is trying to rebuild and win all at the same time. It ain't gonna work! No mater how the season plays out we need to protect the QB. We had a great run but it's time to bite the bullet so we can have more.

Reid says it's on him. There's some things they need to tighten up. . . .