Things that need to change for us to turn it around
 

Gay and Bolton need to play the majority of the snaps at LB
Thornhill in for Sorenson
Tyrann back to playing close to the line
Get Gordon ready to play a lot and they need to get him involved early and often
Ward and Jones need to get healthy
Jones back to DT
Frank Clark needs to take whatever he was taking the second half of the year I’m 2018
Spags needs to adjust his scheme to be more aggressive
Brendan Daly needs to be fired or at minimum put on the hot seat

Lol good luck with that.

All of them

Play calling on both sides suck

That’s it?

Fire Spagnuolo

Fat ****ing chance that happens though.

They really do need to learn how to beat Cover 2.

funny how you mentioned nothing about the offense except for Gordon….has this team never seen a Cover 2 in their life? jesus christ….you would think we are playing the steel curtain defense or the Ray Lewis Ravens. the offense is not focused at all. Maybe Mahomes should focus more on his team instead of making commercials or flying off to golf tournaments and NBA playoff games. drops, fumbles, interceptions.

I think Sorensen is Spags secret lover so good luck.

ROFL

Yeah Mahomes is the problem.

Mahomes not throwing interceptions week in and week out would help

Try not turning the ball over 4 times a game....

There is no turning it around. That happens in April not October. The team is ****ed.

He's on pace for a 20INT season. That's...part of the problem.

Defense #1

Turnovers #2

Folks look at what happened to X-Factor tonight - puts it all into perspective.

i mean he’s throwing a lot of INTs and his throws haven’t been looking too good….so yeah he is part of the problem.

All the focus in the world from Mahomes ain't gonna fix a play like that Pick 6 tonight. The ball was on the money and your best receiver bobbled it to the other team for 7 points. The team is a mess in general.

People get turbo pissed when this is brought up, but it's true. Not all of them are on him but he's not playing like an elite passer rn

I’d put turnovers #1. This team begins with the offense. If they’re giving the ball away, then they’re putting even more pressure on a bad defense.

Some of those are on him, sure, but others literally have bounced off the hands of our receivers.

I thought about that.

You are probably right.

Time for a more risk averse QB. Alex Smith perhaps?

Oh my God get out of here with this shit.

This D is a dumpster fire and the Offense cannot compensate. Hell, there is not an offense in the NFL that could make up for the D play so far this season. Patrick is pushing the limit and it is not working. Offense is not firing on all cylinders. Blame it on play calling or whatever. Bottom line- this team is 500 this year.

This team reminds me of the beginning of Rocky 3. Champ, smooth sailing, feels unbeatable, gets soft, doesnt train right, believes his own hype, gets absolutely destroyed by Clubber Lang.

This assbeating from Buffalo to fall to 2-3 is basically that 2nd round vicious KO.

Will they find it in themselves to get the eye of tiger?

Or will the bitches elect to stay down?

The guy led the league in QBR by a wide margin entering this game but ok lol

Renaming Project Arrowhead field at Arrowhead Stadium!!!!

It to be September 2022

There isn't going to be a turnaround.
This is who the Chiefs are, at least for this year.

Not sure how much turnovers actually affected this game. The Pringle fumble resulted in no points. The Hill bobble that resulted in the INT was a big play which basically put the game away. However, they're already toast by that point. This game was basically over at halftime. Offense came out doing nothing in the 3rd quarter.

But yes turnovers have been a problem this year. The Chargers loss and Ravens loss specifically. Just not this game.

The entire team, Mahomes included looked like they'd rather be at home on the couch than playing that game.

Uncharacteristic turnovers and a defense that just doesn't know when to quit sucking.

The shit with the jack off clutch rating? Ok.

Right after the Tyreek Pick 6, there was an INT deep in Buffalo territory (inside their 10 yard line). Basically a 14-point swing on those 2 possessions. Might have made a big difference. The 2nd INT was a really great play by the Buffalo DL.

I hear you. But wasn't the score 31-13 by that point? Game was basically out of reach.

Yeah sure.

I don't even think it's worth debating you over Mahomes. If you can't even admit that he had a bad game and that 20 interceptions would be terrible, then I don't know what the point in going back and forth with you would be.

That’s your argument? That we shouldn’t trust the passing stats?LMAO

Other than tonight against an elite defense, Mahomes has been as good as ever. The problem is that the defense is the worst in the league. By a mile.

The offense needs to get Gordon snaps asap. I was extremely disappointed they didn't today. The way defenses are playing two deep we literally just need the wr2 and wr3 to be kinda ok at getting open downfield. They can't even do that. The Hardman Pringle experiment is over. Hardman is a good gadget guy. They need a true Wr2. It's not like this is brand new. The Pats have frustrated us with this same formula on D for years including last year. There is no excuse for our other receivers to not do more considering how much defenses pay attention to tyreek and kelce.

Pat throwing the ball into the dirt quite a bit and to a DE isn't a problem? Got it.

The rest is well, the same tired ass argument we all went through in the Alex era. BUT DA RATING

Score was 24-13 right before the Pick 6. So if you keep Buffalo at 24 and give KC the 7...it's 24-20 and who knows where it goes from there. Both of those turnovers were pretty big.

I have no idea what Reid was doing today. What happened to that package Gordon was supposed to have?

FREE MAHOMES

He’s not going to throw 20 interceptions. My advice would be to stop bitching about the NFL’s best QB (who has played at an elite level this season and has the offense leading the league in DVOA) and focus more on what the actual issue with the team is (the near historically bad defense that gives the #1 offense virtually no room for error).

The **** are you talking about? You cant give KC 7 points on that play. It was 3rd down. There was 0 chance they were getting the first on that play. They were going to punt if it wasn't intercepted.

Yes, the stats are just lying. I’m sure the best QB in the league with elite numbers this year is now suddenly bad just because

Or....if he plays bad I can talk about that while also talking about the dog shit defense.


You can do both you know.

You can make a compilation of the throws that Mahomes spiked into the ground. But I guess those were great accurate spikes to you huh?

I'm talking about the INT at the Buffalo 10 yard line. Back to back drives with KC turnovers. The Pick 6 bobbled by Tyreek. And then a long drive by KC that ended up with interception around the Buffalo 10 yard line. Great play by the Buffalo DL to get that one. Anyway, those two drives caused a 14 point swing in favor of Buffalo.

Him having a bad game =/= him being bad. But you can't defend this game so you have to play the hyperbole game. I see you playa.

To say that he’s not an elite passer this year shows a gross misunderstanding of what is actually going on.

Yep. Plus, they were about 80 yards from the end zone. It was a terrible turnover that put the game away. However, it didn't change the game. Just cemented the result. That game was never going in our favor.

The Chargers and Ravens games are where turnovers hurt us. This game, they just got their asses kicked on both sides of the ball.

No you weren't. You literally brought up the pick 6 and talking about holding the Bills to 24 points.

I just don't get it. And you can see it in how mahomes reacts to Pringle and Hardman. They just don't seem to have the instincts. We need Gordon. We need to try the trex package with Noah gray as promised instead of healthy scratching him while Marcus ****ing Kemp is eating up a roster spot.

Maybe the bright side is that we've hit a point where we have no choice but to make the hard decisions the coaches don't want to make.

I’m not the guy who said he wasn’t an elite passer this year lol

Now if he just said this game, I couldn’t argue on that basis.

No one has said that. Now you're just making shit up in your head . LMAO LMAO

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If only Gay played more this D would be outstanding:facepalm:

Thornhill's injury he may never come back from. There is a reason why he is not playing more. Gunshy doesn't trust the leg won't stick his nose in a tackle and the speeds have been hampered. Ay this point Sorenson is the best we have. Missing out on Fitzpatrick is really costing us.

Correct. I don't see why we can't get on the same page here. Buffalo was at 24 points before the Pick 6 and KC was at 13 points. If the Pick 6 doesn't happen, Buffalo stays at 24 points. The next KC drive that ended with an INT at the Buffalo 10 yard line, kept KC from getting to 20 points. So like I said, it was a 14 point swing on those two drives. It ended up 31-13 instead of 24-20 because of those two turnovers.

You can throw QBR rating out there until your dick bleeds but it is what it is. I saw him putting it in the dirt a lot, missing a wide open Kelce at the start and couldn't process that a lengthy 6'6" dude might get him.

He's a great player but it's not just the Defense. LMAO

There can be more than 1 problem on a team.

He had five touchdowns last week lol

He was bad tonight, but he's the least of our concerns. Great quarterbacks get out of slumps (again, we're talking about someone who throws 5 touchdowns during a "slump") and Patrick Mahomes is a great quarterback.

You can't bench Dave Toubs boys.

I'll be honest, that 3 right end shit just sounds like some gimmick shit that gets 3 yards to me. Rather just like up with regular personnel and just play. We don't need experimental gimmicks right now. Just a WR2 that can lineup and run actual routes all over the field.

I could throw plenty more stats out there saying more or less the same thing about Mahomes’ season. But if you’d rather trust in make believe shit instead, I won’t argue with you.

That right there is why we cant get on the same page. Even if they dont intercept the ball and run it back, they are getting the ****ing ball on the next play regardless. You can't just say they aren't going to score because you feel like it.

I’m guessing we will see Todd Gurley, Kerryon Johnson, or Derrius Guice get signed in the next day or two. Doesn’t help most of this teams problems, but they’re going to have to pick up a running back.

Mahomes struggles for the first time in basically 4 years since he became a starter against an elite defense and he is still getting shit on like he’s some kind of issue with this team. Incredible scenes.

Maybe Buffalo drives the field after a punt..maybe not. They weren't doing much on offense at that point of the game. Anyway, the stat sheet shows back to back turnover drives by KC that led to a 14-point swing in favor of Buffalo.

Just bring Gore up. **** this old RB bullshit.

This team needs to start looking for talent that they can have on this team next season. Quit with the old dicks on one year deals.

Since you like QBR so much what was his QBR tonight? Let me guess... The Bills defense is just that amazing?

It's weird because he slumps for a quarter or a half and then he goes ape shit and rains all hell on Defenses, in most games.

He's not aids all of a sudden. He will get more 2 deep looks and it's not just on him to figure it out. Andy and Eric need to have a better plan in place for when it happens.

Turnovers are Turnovers and it will happen but I think the Offense could stand to be a more crisp in the shorter passing game to open things up when someone wants to copy the TB game plan.

With that said, the design could be a lot more inspiring and I think a guy that specialized in WCO could do better.

He hasn't been anywhere near his best so far this year. But I think that statement applies to 95% of the people in the Chiefs locker room at this point. The coaching/playcalling hasn't been great, execution on the field very sloppy by various players including Mahomes.

He was as bad tonight as the Bills defense was good. Doesn’t mean he’s an issue going forward LMAO

It’s hard to imagine a more complete loss

1. Coaching. Why were we not dialing up the Blitz earlier. Why are we running when it is not working. Why does D. Will look some much better than MEH. Why are we taking kicks out of the end zone

2. Defense. They really came up with some stops, but were completely inept at times. When you have so many highly paid players looking lost, you have to think coaching is contributing. How many times can Sorensen get burned before we realize a practice squad player could do just as well. Where is Thornhill? Why is hobo spirit so contagious?

3. Offense. Have we never seen a Cover 2? We were completely shut down for long stretches. Mahomes looked pedestrian. Drops from Hill. False starts. CEH looked terrible. How many tipped interceptions has Patrick had?

4. Officiating. All in all, we got some friendly whistles, but that RTP was a dagger and completely wrong.

Guice isn't old he's just an asshole.

Unless you want to see the defense be on the field even more, he has to stop turning the ball over. If your defense is terrible, the last thing you want to do is give the opponents more possessions, agree?

We have enough of those.

Guice is who people think Tyreek is.

My God end of last year I thought our interior O-line was horrid, and they were. But never thought we would also lose our very good tackles to career-threatening injury. This completely changed the direction of who we could bring in free agent wise but also defensively. I am not sure Brown can play LT and that Niang wouldn't be better there.

Hell, the front office had to know we were weak at safety with Thornhill struggling from injury. I think they overestimated Gay as a speed outside linebacker ignoring that he is a brokedick. I haven't totally lost faith in Veach he had a lot of hard decisions this offseason but I guess I expected the miracle worker we have seen in past.

Toub get way to much credit and influence. I thought it was time for him to go 2 years ago but he rebounded last year. Now he is back to getting too much say in who makes the team. If he was such a good ST coach he would make due with what he is given.

There was no fire in this team tonight. Either offensively or defensively. They need to focus on fundamentals and get back to what they are good at. When you need plays, go to the guys that can make plays. They didn’t do that tonight.