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Dante84 10-11-2021 11:44 AM

CEH Injury - Just an MCL Sprain, out a few weeks
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire suffered an MCL sprain and is out for a few weeks, sources say. While he’ll miss time, not quite as bad as it appeared last night.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1447618829069193220?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

notorious 10-11-2021 11:45 AM

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The Franchise 10-11-2021 11:45 AM

Oh no.




Anyways.

Molitoth 10-11-2021 11:46 AM

He looked fine when running through slut sized holes against the Eagles...but Once again against a defense that even resembles mediocrity, he ran into the ass of his lineman and refused to cut back.

KC Hawks 10-11-2021 11:46 AM

Now he'll be even slower.

AdolfOliverBush 10-11-2021 11:48 AM

I'd like to see more of Willams anyway. A bigger, more powerful RB to run behind our massive, shit-pushing OL.

UK_Chief 10-11-2021 11:48 AM

Banged up running backs ��

KC Hawks 10-11-2021 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 15887850)
I'd like to see more of Willams anyway. A bigger, more powerful RB to run behind our massive, shit-pushing OL.

I'd rather see Gore.

Jewish Rabbi 10-11-2021 11:49 AM

I bet he’s slow to recover

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 11:49 AM

Gore better be getting carries. He won't give the job back.

Dante84 10-11-2021 11:49 AM

Gore SZN

Wisconsin_Chief 10-11-2021 11:52 AM

Literally addition by subtraction. Sick of watching this slow little turd fall face first into the grass the second someone breathes on him. McKinnon better get an actual chance to run the ball now.

Gravedigger 10-11-2021 11:52 AM

I figured partial tear at worst, allowing him to walk off on his own power, you're not letting him do that if it was a partial or full tear. Last year when he got injured it looked worse than what it actually ended up to be, dude's body is resilient, I'll give him that.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 11:53 AM

The run that DW broke a few series later over LG was better cutting than CEH has done all year.

loochy 10-11-2021 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15887858)
I bet he’s slow to recover


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FloridaMan88 10-11-2021 11:57 AM

That's (not) a shame.

KC Hawks 10-11-2021 11:57 AM

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Neither CEH or Darrell would've scored on this play.

Red Dawg 10-11-2021 11:57 AM

He may as well get cut for 2022. Dead cap is 4 mil though. His ass is on the way out.

notorious 10-11-2021 11:58 AM

Gore isn't anything special, either.

Red Dawg 10-11-2021 11:58 AM

Gore is also slow.

jd1020 10-11-2021 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 15887882)
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Neither CEH or Darrell would've scored on this play.

Why not?

That looked slow as shit. Gore just had a blocker for every defender except 1.

Red Dawg 10-11-2021 12:01 PM

Williams is better than CEH and Mckinon can spell him out. CEH doesn't matter.

AdolfOliverBush 10-11-2021 12:01 PM

Gore is basically the same size as CEH, and not much faster. He ran a 4.63 at his pro day.

He is not the answer at all.

Dunerdr 10-11-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 15887882)
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Neither CEH or Darrell would've scored on this play.

This is a lot less impressive after 5 weeks of actual NFL athletes. We are ****ed. Lets get Marlon Mack.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 12:02 PM

Gore looks like he has better vision and burst and power.

https://i.imgur.com/CmZ64wv.gif

JakeF 10-11-2021 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 15887841)
He looked fine when running through slut sized holes against the Eagles...but Once again against a defense that even resembles mediocrity, he ran into the ass of his lineman and refused to cut back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 15887850)
I'd like to see more of Willams anyway. A bigger, more powerful RB to run behind our massive, shit-pushing OL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 15887855)
I'd rather see Gore.

yip,yip,yip


Was afraid that if the eagles' game was his best that we were screwed. Buffalo was another game were CEH looked like a backup.

Why did we wait until Buffalo to give Mckinnon his 1st touch? Last night was our first screen pass too, I think. We tried a lot of new stuff, and it looked like we didn't know what to do.

I want to see if Gore's vision works with the #1's. He may totally suck, I don't know. I want to see it, though.

loochy 10-11-2021 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15887901)
Gore looks like he has better vision and burst and power.

https://i.imgur.com/CmZ64wv.gif


Yeah, CEH would have been tackled there about 2 yards past the first down marker. Defenders seem to stick to him and he goes down with the first tackler

AdolfOliverBush 10-11-2021 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15887901)
Gore looks like he has better vision and burst and power.

https://i.imgur.com/CmZ64wv.gif

Against scrubs, yes. A guy like Williams would **** their faces.

YayMike 10-11-2021 12:04 PM

Some players look faster than their times show. Gore is one of those. Give him the rock

BlackOp 10-11-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15887859)
Gore better be getting carries. He won't give the job back.

That might be the silver lining...I want to see him behind this line.

I did notice that CEH looked faster in the highlights from last years Bills game....that was pre-injury.

I've seen enough of Clyde to know he what his ceiling is...serviceable.

Gore might have been a preseason aberration...but at least give him some plays. Kick the tires...

Hindsight is 20/20 but it appears they should have just kept Damien and used that pick elsewhere.

JakeF 10-11-2021 12:05 PM

Did anyone notice that we seem to start playing a lot harder in the final 8 minutes of the game? Why did it take "losing" for us to give 100%?

comochiefsfan 10-11-2021 12:05 PM

Wish him a speedy recovery but just ready for him to go away honestly.

TEX 10-11-2021 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15887918)
Wish him a speedy recovery but just ready for him to go away honestly.

Yep. I'm betting he won't be missed at all.

TEX 10-11-2021 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 15887908)
Yeah, CEH would have been tackled there about 2 yards past the first down marker. Defenders seem to stick to him and he goes down with the first tackler

Yep. Right at the 50.

comochiefsfan 10-11-2021 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15887924)
Yep. I'm betting he won't be missed at all.

When's the last time a first round RB has looked this unproductive?

Trent Richardson?

TEX 10-11-2021 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15887933)
When's the last time a first round RB has looked this unproductive?

Trent Richardson?

Oh man, I forgot about that slug.

RealSNR 10-11-2021 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 15887855)
I'd rather see Gore.


I just killed Gore. And he’s never coming back.

Sheesh people. Stop obsessing over shitty nobody players

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 12:13 PM

Derrick Gore is going to **** all your mothers.

Dunerdr 10-11-2021 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15887917)
Did anyone notice that we seem to start playing a lot harder in the final 8 minutes of the game? Why did it take "losing" for us to give 100%?

You mean like in 19 when the whole team was trash until Mahomes got hurt?

JakeF 10-11-2021 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15887943)
I just killed Gore. And he’s never coming back.

Sheesh people. Stop obsessing over shitty nobody players

That's what happens when fans don't trust their coaches. They see our coaches choosing to play Sorenson every snap, so we question their decision-making. They see them keep crapping players so they question who they cut, who they start.

That's why we are obsessing over backups etc. We wonder if they ****ed up about Gore too.

BlackOp 10-11-2021 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15887943)
I just killed Gore. And he’s never coming back.

Sheesh people. Stop obsessing over shitty nobody players

He did play for Alabama...so he had to have some talent

Give him a shot...he had a few runs that showed nice vision...before that long TD. I commented on it...

Otter 10-11-2021 12:23 PM

Gore moar

KC Hawks 10-11-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15887943)
I just killed Gore. And he’s never coming back.

Sheesh people. Stop obsessing over shitty nobody players

LET ME HOPE

Pitt Gorilla 10-11-2021 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15887933)
When's the last time a first round RB has looked this unproductive?

Trent Richardson?

I get that Chief Fan is really, really stupid, but calling CEH "unproductive"? Dude left the game halfway through the 3rd and is STILL the 13th best rusher in the NFL.

Any chance we can ease up on the hyperbolic nonsense?

KCUnited 10-11-2021 12:39 PM

Gore looks like he takes 2x as many steps as a normal person running.

loochy 10-11-2021 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15887917)
Did anyone notice that we seem to start playing a lot harder in the final 8 minutes of the game? Why did it take "losing" for us to give 100%?


That was just for a few plays though. They gave up again after the roughing penalty

comochiefsfan 10-11-2021 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15888006)
I get that Chief Fan is really, really stupid, but calling CEH "unproductive"? Dude left the game halfway through the 3rd and is STILL the 13th best rusher in the NFL.

Any chance we can ease up on the hyperbolic nonsense?

Clyde ain't it and if you can't see it at this point then I just don't know what to tell you.

Pitt Gorilla 10-11-2021 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15888090)
Clyde ain't it and if you can't see it at this point then I just don't know what to tell you.

I don't know what you mean by "it", but I'd love for you to explain how you define "unproductive."

Pitt Gorilla 10-11-2021 01:21 PM

All this being said, Kareem Hunt would look outstanding behind this line.

comochiefsfan 10-11-2021 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15888100)
I don't know what you mean by "it", but I'd love for you to explain how you define "unproductive."

Turning 10 yard gains into 4 yard ones is unproductive.

If you want to count empty calories I guess that's fine. But as far as actually impacting the game. Clyde virtually has no impact.

comochiefsfan 10-11-2021 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15888106)
All this being said, Kareem Hunt would look outstanding behind this line.

I know everyone here is tired of hearing about Kareem. But yeah, it would be night and day.

ljmhawk 10-11-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15888118)
I know everyone here is tired of hearing about Kareem. But yeah, it would be night and day.

Jim Brown would look awesome too

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15888115)
Turning 10 yard gains into 4 yard ones is unproductive.

If you want to count empty calories I guess that's fine. But as far as actually impacting the game. Clyde virtually has no impact.

Except when he fumbles.

Then he has a BIG impact!

MOST DEFINITELY the LARGEST impact Clyde has made on ANY game this year? Was when he fumbled. TWICE.

You could say the Kansas City Chiefs are 2-1 and Clyde Edwards Helaire is a big fat shitty 0-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET WELL SOON CLYDE!

Graystoke 10-11-2021 01:36 PM

Eyes don't lie. He just goes down to easy and he isn't quick to the hole.
Shame really. We thought he would bring a whole new dimension to the offense.

comochiefsfan 10-11-2021 01:40 PM

Defenses were much more scared of Damien Williams.

You think Clyde scores (or even gets the first down) on Williams' run to ice the Super Bowl?

No chance.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 01:53 PM

Veach should just trade a pick for Damien.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-11-2021 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15887859)
Gore better be getting carries. He won't give the job back.

That's what I'm hoping and would give the team a spark.

BleedingRed 10-11-2021 02:08 PM

Marlon Mack for the cheap?

Papi 10-11-2021 02:20 PM

Hopefully his lack of vision keeps him out even longer.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 02:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damien Williams turned on the spin cycle. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CHIvsLV?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CHIvsLV</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DaBears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DaBears</a> <a href="https://t.co/5mrmTAafku">pic.twitter.com/5mrmTAafku</a></p>&mdash; Chicago Bears (@ChicagoBears) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status/1447312485019787267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

UChieffyBugger 10-11-2021 02:33 PM

Josina Anderson claims her source told her "his return is not known right now"..so I would be very surprised if it's two weeks that some have speculated.

The issue with Clyde is he doesn't bring three key elements to the table that most great rb's have..and that's speed, size and vision. Yes he can run routes and catch the ball..plus he has good agility in tight spaces but the overall package lacks star quality.

In a true partnership carrying the rock maybe he could be alright but being relied on to be the number one guy isn't for him imo and Veach needs to address it.

siberian khatru 10-11-2021 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15888234)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Damien Williams turned on the spin cycle. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CHIvsLV?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CHIvsLV</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DaBears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DaBears</a> <a href="https://t.co/5mrmTAafku">pic.twitter.com/5mrmTAafku</a></p>&mdash; Chicago Bears (@ChicagoBears) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status/1447312485019787267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

CEH was supposed to have that ability too:


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comochiefsfan 10-11-2021 02:37 PM

I just can't believe that we drafted him in the first round.

I mean what an unmitigated disaster. RB is already a low value position but then to also whiff on the player is just completely brutal.

Really REALLY bad.

Red Dawg 10-11-2021 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15888248)
I just can't believe that we drafted him in the first round.

I mean what an unmitigated disaster. RB is already a low value position but then to also whiff on the player is just completely brutal.

Really REALLY bad.

Yup. It's a position that you never take in the 1st.

Tribal Warfare 10-11-2021 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papi (Post 15888213)
Hopefully his lack of vision keeps him out even longer.

Maybe he can play tic tack toe with Stevie Wonder

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 02:42 PM

A knee injury on top of a high ankle sprain...for a guy who's main trait is quickness...we're just going to have to write him off.

Never draft a midget RB unless they squat three tons.

FloridaMan88 10-11-2021 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15888248)
I just can't believe that we drafted him in the first round.

I mean what an unmitigated disaster. RB is already a low value position but then to also whiff on the player is just completely brutal.

Really REALLY bad.

It looks worse when you look at some of the available defensive players they drafted him over… i.e. Antoine Winfield, Jr. and Trevon Diggs.

Wisconsin_Chief 10-11-2021 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15888262)
It looks worse when you look at some of the available defensive players they drafted him over… i.e. Antoine Winfield, Jr. and Trevon Diggs.

Good lord, that is just brutal. :doh!:

UChieffyBugger 10-11-2021 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15888248)
I just can't believe that we drafted him in the first round.

I mean what an unmitigated disaster. RB is already a low value position but then to also whiff on the player is just completely brutal.

Really REALLY bad.

The fact that Swift and Taylor have both thrived makes it even more painful.

Pitt Gorilla 10-11-2021 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15888261)
A knee injury on top of a high ankle sprain...for a guy who's main trait is quickness...we're just going to have to write him off.

Never draft a midget RB unless they squat three tons.

What do you mean by this?

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15888329)
What do you mean by this?

I mean he no longer gets the starter treatment.

Going into next season he should have to fight for his job.

He can't be relied upon and when we do try to rely on him, he breaks.

loochy 10-11-2021 03:15 PM

BOY, I REALLY WISH WE STILL HAD DARWIN THOMPSON ON THE TEAM

Pitt Gorilla 10-11-2021 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15888336)
I mean he no longer gets the starter treatment.

Going into next season he should have to fight for his job.

He can't be relied upon and when we do try to rely on him, he breaks.

Agree completely.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2021 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 15888340)
BOY, I REALLY WISH WE STILL HAD DARWIN THOMPSON ON THE TEAM

He had more burst and strength than CEH.

And even less vision.

smithandrew051 10-11-2021 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15888328)
The fact that Swift and Taylor have both thrived makes it even more painful.

Tee Higgins, Chase Claypool…

KChiefs1 10-11-2021 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15887859)
Gore better be getting carries. He won't give the job back.


I doubt he even sees the field unless another injury.


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KChiefs1 10-11-2021 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 15887841)
He looked fine when running through slut sized holes against the Eagles...but Once again against a defense that even resembles mediocrity, he ran into the ass of his lineman and refused to cut back.


Can’t believe we wasted a first round pick on him.


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Chief Roundup 10-11-2021 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15887859)
Gore better be getting carries. He won't give the job back.

Will Gore even get called up? I have my doubts since CEH is not going to IR or PUP.


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