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Bugeater 11-04-2021 06:46 PM

Should cars that go 100+ mph be street legal?
 
Spinoff of the Henry Ruggs thread. I had a conversation with someone earlier today who stated there was no reason for there to be cars on the road capable of more than 100 mph, and there's really no argument that can be made against that.

Meanwhile...we all now know what the new Corvette is capable of, and Chrysler is throwing Hellcat engines in everything possible, and the number of electric cars available with silly horsepower is constantly growing.

Is this really a good thing? Poll forthcoming!!!

Iconic 11-04-2021 06:48 PM

inb4 someone calls someone a commie in this thread

Jewish Rabbi 11-04-2021 06:49 PM

Maybe driving drunk should be illegal.

DaFace 11-04-2021 06:50 PM

Seems like people find plenty of ways to kill themselves (and others) behind the wheel, and driving 150 isn't often one of them. Can't say I'm all that worried about it.

Bugeater 11-04-2021 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 15934617)
inb4 someone calls someone a commie in this thread

A true commie would have everyone driving Ladas


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...995_1452cc.jpg

Bugeater 11-04-2021 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15934620)
Maybe driving drunk should be illegal.

Hey, that's great idea! Can't believe no one else has thought of that foolproof solution?

Shoes 11-04-2021 06:52 PM

I believe most cars have governors to prevent excess speeding but it's a good question if they should be required on every vehicle. Maybe there is a requirement for the manufacturer, not quite sure.

Baby Lee 11-04-2021 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 15934624)
A true commie would have everyone driving Ladas


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...995_1452cc.jpg

Call and raise

https://www.autotrader.com/wp-conten...,588&strip=all

Bugeater 11-04-2021 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15934622)
Seems like people find plenty of ways to kill themselves (and others) behind the wheel, and driving 150 isn't often one of them. Can't say I'm all that worried about it.

Think I need to edit the thread title...

Bugeater 11-04-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15934628)

You're not just a commie, you're a goddamn barbarian.

Baby Lee 11-04-2021 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 15934626)
I believe most cars have governors to prevent excess speeding but it's a good question if they should be required on every vehicle. Maybe there is a requirement for the manufacturer, not quite sure.

Most governors are set by the capabilities of the tires. It's the weak point regarding speed at nearly every performance level.

Buehler445 11-04-2021 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15934622)
Seems like people find plenty of ways to kill themselves (and others) behind the wheel, and driving 150 isn't often one of them. Can't say I'm all that worried about it.

I’d probably rate several things above super cars on the road in terms of public safety. Most notably

1. Incompetence in operating a motor vehicle
2. Semis doing reeruned things.
3. Distracted driving because we can’t go .005 seconds without checking our phones because we are the ****ing worst.

eDave 11-04-2021 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 15934626)
I believe most cars have governors to prevent excess speeding but it's a good question if they should be required on every vehicle. Maybe there is a requirement for the manufacturer, not quite sure.

A lot of times, the tires dictate that. Not a car guy but it's happened to me and a couple of customers back then.

Jewish Rabbi 11-04-2021 06:57 PM

Also Bug if this thread is a veiled attempt to take my IROC away from me you’ll get it over my dead body, you commie!!!

Cheater5 11-04-2021 06:58 PM

When does it stop? Ban cars capable of exceeding 100mph, ban modern sporting rifles, ban pit bulls, ban extra large sodas, ban vehicles with off road capability, ban knives over 3”, ban swimming pools...


Devo, I believe said it best;
“Freedom of choice is what you’ve got,
Freedom from choice is what you want.”

lewdog 11-04-2021 06:58 PM

No limits, because you can’t fix stupid anyway.

eDave 11-04-2021 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15934641)
When does it stop? Ban cars capable of exceeding 100mph, ban modern sporting rifles, ban pit bulls, ban extra large sodas, ban vehicles with off road capability, ban knives over 3”, ban swimming pools...


Devo, I believe said it best;
“Freedom of choice is what you’ve got,
Freedom from choice is what you want.”

I would question why 150mph is even neccessary.

eDave 11-04-2021 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15934642)
No limits, because you can’t fix stupid anyway.

Ah, an AZ resident. I don't need 150 but 90 average speed on the 101 is pretty nice. And highway patrol don't give any ****s anymore.

Jewish Rabbi 11-04-2021 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15934643)
I would question why 150mph is even neccessary.

What if you need to get across town quick because a hot piece of ass said her parents aren’t home???

Bugeater 11-04-2021 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15934639)
Also Bug if this thread is a veiled attempt to take my IROC away from me you’ll get it over my dead body, you commie!!!

You can keep it, but in order to ensure we keep rest of society safe, you will be required to use the wheels and tires from a 1974 Vega on it.

tyecopeland 11-04-2021 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15934643)
I would question why 150mph is even neccessary.

Seems like a common argument on automatic/semi guns.

Miles 11-04-2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15934643)
I would question why 150mph is even neccessary.

Just make the speedometer stop at 85 and nobody will drive faster.

Rain Man 11-04-2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15934641)
When does it stop? Ban cars capable of exceeding 100mph, ban modern sporting rifles, ban pit bulls, ban extra large sodas, ban vehicles with off road capability, ban knives over 3”, ban swimming pools...


Devo, I believe said it best;
“Freedom of choice is what you’ve got,
Freedom from choice is what you want.”


I could heat my house for free, but the government refuses to let me buy plutonium.

Bugeater 11-04-2021 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15934641)
When does it stop? Ban cars capable of exceeding 100mph, ban modern sporting rifles, ban pit bulls, ban extra large sodas, ban vehicles with off road capability, ban knives over 3”, ban swimming pools...


Devo, I believe said it best;
“Freedom of choice is what you’ve got,
Freedom from choice is what you want.”

I'm not proposing or advocating for this to happen, just looking for a better argument against it other than "muh freedoms".

lewdog 11-04-2021 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15934646)
Ah, an AZ resident. I don't need 150 but 90 average speed on the 101 is pretty nice. And highway patrol don't give any ****s anymore.

I love how the speed limit is 65 on the 101. They only seem to care if you’re doing 80+ in traffic.

BigRedChief 11-04-2021 07:06 PM

I’ve had cars that could do 200. But, I was responsible by that time of ownership. When I was Riggs age, It wouldn’t have ended well.

Rain Man 11-04-2021 07:06 PM

I don't think there should be a limit, but at 100 mph a spike should start protruding from the middle of the steering wheel, and the faster you go the longer it gets.

mr. tegu 11-04-2021 07:07 PM

Should cars that go 100+ mph be street legal?
 
If there were a way to limit their speed based on a gps location such as city areas with stop lights, I’d be fine with that, but that opens up a big can of worms with regards to what speeds, where, etc. that would probably turn me off from it.

Bugeater 11-04-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 15934658)
Just make the speedometer stop at 85 and nobody will drive faster.

Ford found the workaround for that with the Mustang SVO in the mid 80s.


https://www.stangnet.com/mustang-for...45-jpg.609760/

Bearcat 11-04-2021 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15934646)
Ah, an AZ resident. I don't need 150 but 90 average speed on the 101 is pretty nice. And highway patrol don't give any ****s anymore.

Yeah, I typically keep it at 15mph over and they don't care... I'll slow down to about 5-10 over as a courtesy/"please don't pull me over" when I see them. Completely different from the midwest where +8 is stretching it and +10 is practically a guaranteed ticket.

And up I-17 where it's 75 and you're at ~85-90, it's not that hard to hit 100 when passing all of the assholes in the left lane, but other cars are 80-85+, so it's not like you're flying by (and I slow down around the trucks that are crawling up the mountain, of course).

Frazod 11-04-2021 07:10 PM

I can't remember the last car I owned that wouldn't go 100 mph. And it's not like I've owned Corvettes and Ferraris.

Bearcat 11-04-2021 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15934661)
I love how the speed limit is 65 on the 101. They only seem to care if you’re doing 80+ in traffic.

And on the north/east end they've had 55mph signs up for months due to the construction that was mostly finished long ago.... so, traffic is ~80+ with "fines double!" signs every couple minutes.

Jewish Rabbi 11-04-2021 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15934669)
I can't remember the last car I owned that wouldn't go 100 mph. And it's not like I've owned Corvettes and Ferraris.

Porsche guy?

Otter 11-04-2021 07:11 PM

Nerfing the world to the lowest common denominator the population is a poor way to move forwards as a species.

Chief Pagan 11-04-2021 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15934641)
When does it stop? Ban cars capable of exceeding 100mph, ban modern sporting rifles, ban pit bulls, ban extra large sodas, ban vehicles with off road capability, ban knives over 3”, ban swimming pools...


Devo, I believe said it best;
“Freedom of choice is what you’ve got,
Freedom from choice is what you want.”

It stops when we ban human drivers on public roads and everything is driver less vehicles.

And Ruggs wouldn't have had that particular option to screw up his life and kill another.

backinblack 11-04-2021 07:12 PM

the problem with this is, does it only cover our country? Because yeah America produces Corvettes/Camaros/Mustangs/Challengers/Chargers among others that are easily capable of 150+ mph speeds, but so do countless European and Asian car makers. In Germany there exists a road that you can drive as fast as you want on it.

I don't think it's a problem with Corvettes that are capable of near 200 mile an hour speed, drunk people kill innocent people driving old rusted out Ford pickups that are barely capable of doing 80.

philfree 11-04-2021 07:12 PM

I had my 04 Vette up to 140 on what ever highway I was on out in Phoenix. I don't think I've had my 2019 over 100 since I've had it. I'm getting old so maybe I'm slowing down a little.

mlyonsd 11-04-2021 07:14 PM

My 2007 Cobalt with 298,000 miles and a 1.4L has a speedometer that goes to 120. This thread is going to make me try it tomorrow on the interstate.

Rain Man 11-04-2021 07:14 PM

I'll also note that putting such a limit on cars would really inhibit car chase scenes in movies.

Bearcat 11-04-2021 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15934669)
I can't remember the last car I owned that wouldn't go 100 mph. And it's not like I've owned Corvettes and Ferraris.

My first car was an '88 Ford Escort... I think the speedometer only went to 85 and it would start shaking much past 75. I'm sure there were far worse things to drive on the highway, but it felt like the entire car was going to fall apart.

Katipan 11-04-2021 07:15 PM

I am mature enough to handle a car that goes 200mph.

I'm not mature enough to handle a car that goes 60 in 2 seconds.

Frazod 11-04-2021 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15934674)
Porsche guy?

Uh, no. If I had the money to buy a Porshe, I'd get a '70 Chevelle.

Rain Man 11-04-2021 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15934683)
My first car was an '88 Ford Escort... I think the speedometer only went to 85 and it would start shaking much past 75. I'm sure there were far worse things to drive on the highway, but it felt like the entire car was going to fall apart.

My first two cars likely would have exploded in mid-air if I got them over 80. That's not so much due to poor design as it was poor maintenance.

Bearcat 11-04-2021 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 15934677)
the problem with this is, does it only cover our country? Because yeah America produces Corvettes/Camaros/Mustangs/Challengers/Chargers among others that are easily capable of 150+ mph speeds, but so do countless European and Asian car makers. In Germany there exists a road that you can drive as fast as you want on it.

I don't think it's a problem with Corvettes that are capable of near 200 mile an hour speed, drunk people kill innocent people driving old rusted out Ford pickups that are barely capable of doing 80.

Sadly, I've read much of it has limits now or there's so much traffic that it doesn't matter... not sure how much truth there is to that, but would love to drive it one day.

TLO 11-04-2021 07:17 PM

Of course they should be street legal.

Bugeater 11-04-2021 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 15934675)
Nerfing the world to the lowest common denominator the population is a poor way to move forwards as a species.

It's not legal to drive over 100mph anywhere so no one is getting nerfed.

TLO 11-04-2021 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 15934686)
I am mature enough to handle a car that goes 200mph.

I'm not mature enough to handle a car that goes 60 in 2 seconds.

And you're a woman.. Sooooo....

Spoiler!

backinblack 11-04-2021 07:18 PM

thing is if you are gonna limit Corvettes and such, then they might as well not make them. Limiting cars that are engineered and built to go well over 100 mph is just pointless.

Frazod 11-04-2021 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15934683)
My first car was an '88 Ford Escort... I think the speedometer only went to 85 and it would start shaking much past 75. I'm sure there were far worse things to drive on the highway, but it felt like the entire car was going to fall apart.

I once owned an '86 Mercury Lynx, which would have been pretty much the same thing. It was peppy because it had a stick, but the only way it would have ever gone over 100 was if I had driven it off a cliff. :D

TLO 11-04-2021 07:19 PM

Will the 96 Camero with 58,000 miles hit 100 Bug?

Bearcat 11-04-2021 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15934688)
My first two cars likely would have exploded in mid-air if I got them over 80. That's not so much due to poor design as it was poor maintenance.

The funny thing about that is the Escort had a kill switch "feature" and it would die at any sign of danger... I was on a snowy/icy road one night and the whole car just shut off. And while not having power steering isn't terrible, steering with power steering and then suddenly steering without it kind of sucks when your car is sliding into someone's yard.

No idea WTF Ford was thinking on that genius idea.

BigRedChief 11-04-2021 07:20 PM

Every day or most days many of travel 70-75mph going one way and another car going 70-75mph the opposite way get within 5-10 feet of us. Perfectly normal. We are counting on everyone to not be impaired and paying attention.

Frazod 11-04-2021 07:22 PM

My first car was a '77 Monza. It would do 80 going down the side of a mountain. And 30 going up the side of a mountain.

Otter 11-04-2021 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15934687)
Uh, no. If I had the money to buy a Porshe, I'd get a '70 Chevelle.

Had the chance to drive both and while the Chevelle probably has more character the 949 Porsche handling and suspension isn't even in the same zip code.

Neither my vehicles, I'm a Toyota Tacoma guy but it was fun. Chevelle was a stick too boot. Rare to see these days.

Katipan 11-04-2021 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15934692)
And you're a woman.. Sooooo....

Spoiler!

If we were to race to your mom's house, I'd have time to shower and drop a deuce before we high fived on my way out.

backinblack 11-04-2021 07:24 PM

Will say modern sports cars can get up to 100 mph without you even noticing and it is a bit scary. Last few weeks I've been driving back and forth from Boise to Baker City Oregon for work in my 2015 Mustang GT, and just today on the way home I had it at a little over 110, didn't even realize it until I looked at the gauge. The car is just so well built for those speeds, it doesn't feel unnatural.

Hoover 11-04-2021 07:25 PM

if he hit her going 90 MPH it would be a similar result.

Frazod 11-04-2021 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 15934705)
If we were to race to your mom's house, I'd have time to shower and drop a deuce before we high fived on my way out.

I love you! LMAO

TribalElder 11-04-2021 07:25 PM

hellcats roll like 190

eDave 11-04-2021 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 15934647)
What if you need to get across town quick because a hot piece of ass said her parents aren’t home???

She can wait 3 minutes. I'll get to her on my own time.

Bugeater 11-04-2021 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 15934697)
Will the 96 Camero with 58,000 miles hit 100 Bug?

I had it up to 90 one time but I felt myself starting to get sucked out of the t-tops so I slowed down.

crayzkirk 11-04-2021 07:27 PM

I don't think you should limit what people are able to buy however if you want to drive your car like a race car, then you should take it to the track where everyone expects you to drive it that way.

You know what they say about men who have to drive fast cars...

Otter 11-04-2021 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 15934691)
It's not legal to drive over 100mph anywhere so no one is getting nerfed.

How do you limit the power and still allow for towing, hauling and other vehicle uses without adding more things to go wrong and making them more expensive?

Maybe stupid people should just be paid to be neutered instead of taking down others to their level of incompetence.

MIAdragon 11-04-2021 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15934643)
I would question why 150mph is even neccessary.

It’s a nice waypoint on the way to 200.

TribalElder 11-04-2021 07:29 PM

had an old camaro that when it hit over 110 the engine would get killed

talk about shit yourself, get it up to 111 and the engine died which caused the steering wheel to lock. luckily it was a stick shift so pushing the clutch in and dumping it started the car right back up. ****ing terrible feature

cars should be able to go as fast as they can, if you can pay for the ticket take the ride just don't drink and drive

MIAdragon 11-04-2021 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15934717)
I don't think you should limit what people are able to buy however if you want to drive your car like a race car, then you should take it to the track where everyone expects you to drive it that way.

You know what they say about men who have to drive fast cars...

What do they say….

Bugeater 11-04-2021 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 15934718)
How do you limit the power and still allow for towing and other vehicle uses without adding more things to go wrong and making them more expensive?

Maybe stupid people should just be paid to be neutered instead of taking down others to their level of incompetence.

Do I look like a gat damn automotive engineer?



Again, I'm not advocating for anything like this, I just thought it was an interesting question.

Bearcat 11-04-2021 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backinblack (Post 15934707)
Will say modern sports cars can get up to 100 mph without you even noticing and it is a bit scary. Last few weeks I've been driving back and forth from Boise to Baker City Oregon for work in my 2015 Mustang GT, and just today on the way home I had it at a little over 110, didn't even realize it until I looked at the gauge. The car is just so well built for those speeds, it doesn't feel unnatural.

Yep, the only time my car really has to work on a consistent basis is up the steeper grades in the mountains, or else I can cruise at 80+ and it's at like 2000 RPM (well, maybe not that low).

Titty Meat 11-04-2021 07:32 PM

As long as u blow into something that looks like a cock

eDave 11-04-2021 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15934667)
Yeah, I typically keep it at 15mph over and they don't care... I'll slow down to about 5-10 over as a courtesy/"please don't pull me over" when I see them. Completely different from the midwest where +8 is stretching it and +10 is practically a guaranteed ticket.

And up I-17 where it's 75 and you're at ~85-90, it's not that hard to hit 100 when passing all of the assholes in the left lane, but other cars are 80-85+, so it's not like you're flying by (and I slow down around the trucks that are crawling up the mountain, of course).

I like how highway patrol just parks and sits on the side of every highway entering the city.

"Alright, ****sticks, you are within city limits now. Slow down."

eDave 11-04-2021 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 15934721)
What do they say….

Early. Or small. But generally:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-13-2015/wK_DYA.gif

IowaHawkeyeChief 11-04-2021 07:34 PM

I think we should ban spoons and forks except for small ones less than a 1/2 of teaspoon or 3 small fork prongs, to keep folks from dying from obesity...

Otter 11-04-2021 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 15934723)
Do I look like a gat damn automotive engineer?

Again, I'm not advocating for anything like this, I just thought it was an interesting question.

Understood.

I just don't advocate limiting competent people to the level of stupid people in any way.

We good bro! :thumb:

crayzkirk 11-04-2021 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 15934721)
What do they say….

I don't know... I was hoping someone would tell me since I hear it all the time.

eDave 11-04-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15934709)
I love you! LMAO

Pffft. She's asian too. I don't know how she ever arrives anywere.

jk

Bearcat 11-04-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 15934737)
I think we should ban spoons and forks except for small ones less than a 1/2 of teaspoon or 3 small fork prongs, to keep folks from dying from obesity...

Well, this thread was created from a thread about someone killing another person with their car.... it's not about saving you from yourself, it's (at least in the spirit of the other thread) about saving people from others' stupidity.

jd1020 11-04-2021 07:40 PM

If cars over 100 mph are banned does this mean cop cars are limited to 100 mph? Asking for a friend who rides a motorcycle.

vonBobo 11-04-2021 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 15934718)
How do you limit the power and still allow for towing, hauling and other vehicle uses without adding more things to go wrong and making them more expensive?

Cars already do this. It's easy to limit speed and still have a million horse power, it is all electronic.

eDave 11-04-2021 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 15934748)
If cars over 100 mph are banned does this mean cop cars are limited to 100 mph? Asking for a friend who rides a motorcycle.

A highway patrolman once told me that they don't really take the time for crotch rocketers and said they will just wait until they are scraping them off the highway later. This was California.

alanm 11-04-2021 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15934636)
I’d probably rate several things above super cars on the road in terms of public safety. Most notably

1. Incompetence in operating a motor vehicle
2. Semis doing reeruned things.
3. Distracted driving because we can’t go .005 seconds without checking our phones because we are the ****ing worst.

I don't know who's worse. Women or men. Generally both if their under age 35.


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