Did Byron Pringle save our season?
 

If he doesn't run his ass off here it's 16-10.

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That would have made it 19-13 before the Cowboys last drive.

Which would have made Dak a lot less desperate.

Holy **** byron ****ing pringle

Wow.

Hat tip.

Not a KSU fan, but been a Pringle home for awhile.

Great effort, but Trey Smith also had the angle. Well, maybe.

I like Pringle a lot. He does everything right.

good video to showcase that, definitely is an asset to the team.

Still not sure how Kelce didn't bring that in.

Pringle has heart. Plays hard every play. Been like that since K-State. Sneaky speed. He'll never be a #1 WR. But I still think he can be a great contributor as WR 3/4, special teams.

I love seeing the amount of KC players who hauled ass to prevent that pick 6. Beautiful stuff and the exact opposite of a team going through the motions of a Super Bowl Hangover, is too concerned about being on commercials or are mailing it in after a championship or whatever it was Twitter was accusing them of just weeks before

Or how Hill didn't bring it in against Buffalo, or Washington. Drops have turned into picks. All. Season. Long.

Reid needs to play that in every film session the rest of the year.

From here on out:

MAXIMUM EFFORT

That was the most shocking turnover of the season, and there have been many. It seemed like Kelce had the ball, and then all of a sudden the Cowboys guy had it. Smh.

Guys, entire team was playing with that level of effort tonight. Nice job limiting the damage by Pringle. That was very close to being 6.

Byron Pringle all he does is make great plays.

He does a lot more for this team than Robinson that’s for sure.

that's a fire ass tweet! I am, have been and always will be Horhnknees!!,,,

is your ass stil firee?

I had to watch that around 9 tonight It's all fairly new to me still. Yes firee as ****ers on fire!

I'm now a complete Pringle homer. Give this man the #2 spot **** Hardman

Yup. He deserves it.

Byron Pringle is our Butch Johnson. Tyreek is our Drew Pearson. Unfortunately we don't have a Tony Hill.

There’s a reason the coaches love him so much and want to give him every chance to succeed, and you just saw why.

It feels like there’s been close to ten of those this year. It seems like it has to be a record for the number of drops that have turned into interceptions.

I agree

Great play by Byron.

Mahomes has to lead the league in INT’s that bounce off his receivers hands/body parts. Like maybe half of his INT’s? It’s crazy

Bill Snyder Turned His Life Around
 

You can disrespect K-State, but that work ethic started because of Bill Snyder.

Or maybe because of Byron Pringle.

Good job by Pat as well. He did just enough to slow him down for Pringle to catch up without putting himself at too much risk of being injured.

That's exactly what you want from the QB there.

Toub Special Team influence shinning through. Those guys play tuff or lose a great pay day.

I'm not sure that one play "saved our season", but it sure helped save this game. Sneed's INT, Jones's 4 sacks and a strip, Butker's pooch punt, all contributed to the victory.

That said, I'd like to see more of Pringle and less of DRob.

Gay had a 4 point play of his own as well. Gay and Bolton were monsters yesterday.

I saw that play from Pringle in real time and you could see that we were in a lot of trouble there - it looked like it was going to be a pick 6 until Pringle came flying into that pile and mucked everything up.

Regarding the pick itself - man the Chiefs have a lot of drops that seem to go up on the deflection this year. They had 2 more yesterday that weren't picked that hit hands/chests and went up in the air. Pringle had one of them and there was another over the middle as well (I think Hardman).

It's been unreal how many bad breaks we've taken on balls like that this year. Most of them are plays in/near scoring range where we'd have gotten a new set of downs to boot.

Just teamwide execution issues that seem to be getting a little better but are still present week in, week out.

IIRC Tyreek had one across the middle on a low pass as well. It bounces harmlessly to the ground since there was no one in the area, but if there had been a defender trailing or a safety coming in, that would have been another bullshit tipped INT.

And I think what pisses me off the most is that our receivers have no reason to be dropping these balls like this. It's not like Pat is out here leading guys into potentially career ending hits across the middle. There's no need for the yips.

I don't have a good number of how many were thrown behind the receiver, but the INT last night sure was. Normally Kelce pulls that one in and we go about our business. There have also been a couple of tipped ball INTs that weren't tipped in the past. It looks like the timing is still off a bit.

Terrible drop by Kelce. Awesome hustle play by Pringle.

Pat is as good as anyone I've ever seen at protecting his guys on his throws. And people want to say that Mahomes throws a ball behind someone like Kelce on balls like that when it's actually perfect ball placement. He's putting it at a back shoulder or down an in or whatever to give his pass-catcher a chance to defend himself as he brings the ball in.

Yeah, there's really no justification for these drops. I wonder if part of it is that the offense is getting played tighter so fewer guys have open space in front of them as they catch the ball. So they're just not as used to getting those 'poorly placed' balls that allow them to defend themselves since in years past, they haven't need the ball thrown there.

They're used to catch and run balls and they're still operating as though that's what they're going to get. But man, playing against these bombshell defenses with guys coming downhill as the ball is being delivered, you try to do that every play and you'll get your receivers heads taken off on a weekly basis.

That ball hit him square in the 7, man. Right through his hands and pretty much hit him square in the heart. If he missed at all, we're talking about inches.

Gotta catch that ball but Kelce was focusing on the run after the catch before he secured it. And I don't even blame him - that play was set up for another 20 YAC yards. But Kelce just has to bring that ball in.

Byron Pringle played 62% of snaps this week compared to 32% by Mecole Hardman.

Pringle is the #2 WR.

Whoa! Settle down there, little guy. I wasn't disrespecting KSU. My wife is a KSU fan. I am a KU fan. But I have much respect for Snyder. I give her crap all the time but I admit that Pringle is a player that just does what's asked of him and always plays hard.

I latched onto the dipshit from Florida and he ended up having negative football IQ.

I don’t want to curse my guy Pringle.

I like that Pringle guy.
Seriously, I do

Pringle had a great game. A couple really nice kick returns, a huge 37-yard catch, and that tackle to possibly save a touchdown.

I don't know what the story is either, but as of now, I'm chalking it up to regression to the mean. We had a pretty nice run there of good execution. We might just be getting the bullshit bounces that we've been, for lack of a better term, deferring.

That about has to be wrong, but that's the best I have at the moment.

But yeah, that pass was as good as you can ask for.

Right, and frankly, if KU football could find a Bill Snyder, that would be the best case scenario. Hopefully Leipold is that guy, but it's unlikely he can build what Snyder did.

Been this way for two weeks now.

Hardman lost his job. Kinda sad TBH.

Save our season?

No.

Make a great hustle play?

Yes.

Chiefs are not currently a playoff team if they lose that game.

If Pringle doesn't make that play there's no guarantee we lose either.

Pump the breaks.

Did that game ever feel in doubt to you?

I was never worried. If the Cowboys score a TD there, I think KC just puts a little more emphasis on scoring a TD instead of bleeding clock in their next couple of drives.

I just don't think the Cowboys offense had enough in the tank to trade shots with us if it came to that. And the offense felt like it was running on cruise control a bit in the 2nd half.

Not really. At this point, we should have a lot of confidence in this team. We've been here before.

And game script screwed them early. Frankly the Cowboys knew that was a possibility and admitted it once they won the toss and took the ball instead of deferring.

They knew they weren't equipped to come back without Cooper or Smith. And then once Lamb went down it was all over but the crying.

I think Wilson's a quality player but he's not a guy who can lead an offense. Nor is Shultz or Gallup. Those are all complementary weapons. Without Cooper, Lamb or Smith, they weren't going to beat the Chiefs.

They weren't as good as their record with the roster that came into that game, especially when Lamb went down.

I think we might see them again.

Can you imagine having that offense and then having Parsons, Gregory and Lawrence to rush the passer?

And Tyron should be back any day.

Yeah...we should be glad Tyreek didn't go off for 200 and start doing backflips and making fake phone calls on the sideline.

Love Pringle.

Been saying all year that he should start ahead of Hardman.


Pringle is a quality #3 wr, since we don't have a #2, Pringle is our best option.

That ball carrier is extremely fortunate Pringle got to him before Grown-Man Trey Smith did.

I don't remember the specific timing, but if they called three penalties on Trey Smith, including an unsportsmanlike, you better hope you're not the guy that he gets to tackle.

As a K-State homer I think the world of that kid. Always going 100%.
Did a happy dance when the Chiefs got him.

I thought that also. You don't really want him getting in a crowd or getting blocked.

Hope the week off allows him to heal/refocus. He needs it as much as anyone.

The point I was making was that in the past that ball would have been on the outside of the 8, not the backside of the 7 where the defender was. That's not saying Kelce shouldn't have made the catch and moved the chains. Maybe 87 should have ran a half step deeper route, maybe Mahomes didn't see the defender close so fast, I frankly don't know. There just havve been a lot of fluke INTs this year we haven't seen in the past.

I was thinking the same thing during the game, but directing it at the cats he's blocking. I can't imagine throwing hands against Big Trey after he's fully pissed off and his only job is to eradicate me.

On return Pringle and open field like here pringle looks to have hardman speed. As a wr he seems average speed. Strange.

He's no Teddy Bridgewater thats for sure.

Yeah - he's looked like he's playing at 80% since about week 3. He's just getting beat to hell and it's clearly taking a toll on him.

And hell, he's just a little older than he used to be. If the game's requiring him to expend more energy to stay at the same level he was once able to cruise at, he'll have a few more errors as a result.

But yeah, more than anyone, Kelce could use a break. Seems like he gets up slow and trudges back to the huddle on every snap at this point.

He's got good straight line speed but he's not very quick. That's why you'll see him on kick returns and not punt returns.

I'm not even sure he has good straight line speed.

On kick returns he plays fast because he's just decisive. He picks his gap and hits it as soon as he has the ball in his hands.

Someone like Hughes looks genuinely explosive with the ball in his hands. But if Hughes is more to the 'Dante Hall' side of the spectrum, leaning on acceleration and agility, Pringle is clearly on the 'Tamarik Vanover' side in that he's gonna pick a spot and go. He'll rely on a little physicality to get past the first line and then hope he maintains enough momentum to get the edge and go.

Yep

He's 32 years old, and has been playing an average of about 17 games per year (including playoffs). He gets the really tough assignments over the middle taking a pounding game after game. That shit eventually catches up to you. I'm absolutely amazed at how resilient and consistent he has been over his career. Dude is a bit of a freak.

mahommes made a helluva an effort to take him down

I mentioned it after I watched the Aaron Hernandez documentary. The shots these TEs take are just unreal.

I'm not going to excuse anything Hernandez did - guy was all about that life as far back as High School and I don't think football turned him into who he became. But man, watching that documentary and the dozen or so clips they showed of him over the middle - plays that seem benign from TV are just absolute trainwrecks for those guys.

They're in that unhappy middle where they're moving fast enough to generate momentum but not fast enough to get into space. And invariably TEs are big men getting hit by other big men at fairly high speeds.

I can't think of a position that takes the kind of abuse those guys take. And the ones that are able to just keep ticking like Kelce and Tony Gonzalez just amaze the hell out of me. Even a tank like Gronk seemed to always miss a game or two a year simply through getting the shit beat out of them. But Kelce just keeps chugging along, averaging right at 90% of his teams offensive snaps over the 7 years since he's become a full-time starter. That's awfully impressive.

The league sees guys like George Kittle have huge years then struggle to stay healthy and duplicate that every few years. Guys like Zach Ertz come and go all the time. But guys like Kelce, Tony G, Greg Olson and Jason Witten are pretty rare birds. The game's designed to grind guys like that into a fine powder but some of them just refuse to sit down.

Agreed. And what he was doing against the Faid looked like it sucked worse. Get up, give a hard blow to the DE, keep your balance, turn around quick as hell because the balls coming right now so Mahomes doesn't die, catch the ball, run 8 yards, get blasted by a LB.

**** I was tired just watching that.

And it was the only game where he still seemed to have any energy left when the clock hit zeroes.

I agree - that game had to be brutal for him.

It just shows you how much of it's a mindset thing for these iron horse types. He had to be exhausted but he was involved and active in the game, the Chiefs were feeling it and he walked off the field like he was fresh as a daisy.

The mind over matter that has to take is pretty incredible.

I'm not sure if it's legit but he's got an NFL combine profile on NFL.com. Apparently he ran a 4.46, which is decent speed for a guy who's around 6'1" 205.

Agreed on being decisive, though. He never does the East-West or stutter stepping shit, which I like. Plus he runs through arm tackles pretty well.

That boy brings his lunch bucket to work with him, he's a baller!