Thoughts going into the bye.
 

7-4. First in the AFC WEST. Easily could have been 9- 2 at this point with self inflicted wounds snatching defeat from the jaws of victory against the Ravens and Chargers.

If before those games you were told youd be down 1 point under a minute left, ball deep in Raven territory 2nd and 3, youd be all over it.

If you were told Patrick Mahomes gets the football 1st and 10 with 2:12 left in the game with LA out of timeouts, tie game, again, youd be all over it.

Instead Clyde fumbles the ball away, and Kelce stops running his route. 2 turnovers, 2 losses on 2 bad possessions.

Weve been outclassed twice getting pounded by the Bills and Titans in contests where we simply were not prepared to play.

Defense has drastically changed , and no, revisionists, it does not now invalidate criticism of Steve Spagnuolo's results early on. He was a ****ing hardheaded moron refusing to believe his shit stunk while thousands in attendance routinely vomited from the stench.

The addition of Melvin Ingram has been huge, effectively forcing Jones back inside where he is best. Bolton and Gay are looking like they could be what we all hoped for. Sneed is a stud in the secondary and for the moment at least, Mathieu's vagina has stopped bleeding.

Offensively, Creed Humphrey is the best center in the league. Rookie rg Trey Smith routinely takes souls. We have arguably the best interior line in football.

That said, Clyde needs to take a back seat to DW. His numbers say hes okay, but the eye test shows he has zero vision. He routinely plows into his line when he could cut or bounce. I havent seen vision this bad since Trent Richardson, also a wasted 1st rd pick.

The Chiefs need to commit to Pringle as the 2 and stop trying to insert Hardman, Robinson, and Gordon. Gordon is washed. Hardman is just overcome by full ignant every time he takes the field. Wrong routes, not aware the ball is coming, drops, fumbles, hyper aggressive ignant when he does make a play seemingly begging for a flag to undo his one thing he did right.

A gadget player and punt returner not trusted to field punts. To think we could have had DK Metcalf.

The Chiefs appear to be on the rise as the rest of the powers in the league are stumbling. We have a week to heal and figure out how to get our receivers to stop dropping passes, and maybe get Clyde Lasik surgery, before we put an assbeating on the visiting donks, led by Teddy Businessdecision.

If the defense that Dork Pres**** faced shows up, Teddy will be riding the pine by halftime.

This team, with this defense, can run the table if we just figure out how to stop dropping passes we get 2 hands on, and teach Clyde to look for the ****ing hole before charging blindly into the asses of his o line.

This is a connected thought, concerning the team's hardheadedness when it comes to personnel early on. It is a trend with this team under Reid.

They will roll with some variations of their Week 1 roster for much of the early season on both sides of the ball, before letting the best talent eventually win out by the time November wraps up. I remember this being a trend on the offensive line early on in the Reid tenure, during the Alex Smith era.

I think it serves dual purposes. First of all, I think it buys you all kinds of cred with the locker room and the veterans on the team. Allowing the usually-older talent to wither on the vine on the field every October while the more dynamic talent sprinkles in good play and eventually takes the reins buys a lot more credibility with the locker room than people may think, which has got to be one of the reasons the Chiefs have routinely had outstanding locker rooms and have never once had a younger talent vs. older talent factions in the locker room. The vets know Reid is giving them every chance to earn their job.

I also think having the slower trigger finger provides the coaching staff the security that they're not moving on too fast and that they really are phasing out ineffective players, and not players who may have slumped for a few games but still can lock down their positions over the course of a season.

I do agree, though, that the early play this season should still saddle Spags with blame. His personnel situations early one were abominable. His adjustments since then have legend-potential, and I'm not kidding. Both things can be true.

I just love the run defense and having faith that teams are not get 5-6 yards without even trying. That in turn has improved the pass rush because we are genuinely seeing 3rd and longs not 3rd and short.

Pass protection still an major worry for me, if the defense turns back into a pumpkin Protecting Mahomes is gong to be key.

We have left a lot of points on the field. Hopefully we come out of the bye and quit doing that so much.

Yesterday was 4 if not 7 or more.

Missed XP
Missed FG
Dropped pass for INT

Every game will have points left on the field but we have done it too much thus far save maybe the Raiders and Eagles games.

And really it just comes down to protecting the ball better.

I'm a little worried, the offense went back into stall mode in the second half yesterday. But i have to disagree on the Clyde/DW thing. They look basically the same. Clyde doesnt see holes, DW isnt fast enough to hit the crease if its there. Its a toss up but ill gamble on the upside.

Best defense in the league. Offense still loses itself at times.

They did but we also had a missed FG and the Kelce tip\INT.

1. Good time to heal
2. Bad time for BYE since we have been hot
3. Good time to watch the AFC rejuggle before next game

Thoughts going into the bye... I trust the defense more than the offense all of a sudden.

I'm more worried about how they responded. It's like the magic was just gone and we went back to week 5ish offense. In years past a pick or fumble happens and they come back and keep playing and take the momentum back.

CEH was the 32nd overall pick.

The Browns traded UP to #3 overall to take Trent Richardson.

“They’re both first round picks” is like saying Patrick Mahomes and Teddy Bridgewater are both NFL QBs. It’s oversimplifying something such that it becomes a misleading sentiment

It's hard to feel anything but pretty happy after a 4-game win streak.

I will say that I have lost some confidence in our offense. For the last few years, I just became accustomed to great things happening. Pat would load up to throw downfield and I was like "**** yeah!". These days I'm expecting an errant pass or a tipped INT.

At the same time, I have gained a lot of confidence in the defense.

If we're able to put the pieces together when it matters down the stretch, we can make it back to the Super Bowl. Like, if the offense that played @ Vegas shows up with the defense against the Cowboys last night? Pssh. We will stomp anyone we play. It'll be a slaughterhouse.

And looking at the schedule coming out of the bye, it isn't too bad:

Broncos
Raiders
@ Chargers
Steelers
@ Bengals
@ Broncos

Aside from going to LA on a short week, all of those games are pretty favorable for us. We've got a great shot at running the table.

There's plenty of blame to be spread around for the losses. Jones playing out of position, Gay being hurt, Clark whoknows what, Andy/PMII not adjusting to Cover 2, all have contributed to our 7-4 record.

But the ship appears to be somewhat righted now. There are some things to be cleaned up, like false starts and unsportsman like penalties, dropped passes, and the like. We can't give the all away 22 times and expect to win much in the post season. Sure enough some of those INTs weren't Mahomes's fault, but when you ignore a wide open receiver 10 yards down the field to throw into double coverage 30 yards down, you have to readjust your thinking. Take what the defense gives you, every game doesn't have to be a higlight reel.

I actually like the timing.

We just finished a very difficult 3-game stretch. We have some guys that are dinged up, which gives them another week to heal up (we may have Niang and or Remmers back at RT for the Denver game, which would be big).

This off week gives us some time to charge the batteries and be ready to finish strong in the last 6 weeks of the regular season.

Andy, EB, Kafka, Mahomes, Hill, Kelce etc. Need to find a film room and spend several days dissecting how to attack this cover 2 shell.

We have 2 weeks to figure it out. We have to find the weakness and consistently start to exploit it. The defense is coming into it's own.

What the Raider game showed is that the old offense is still in there. If it emerges consistently then we're going to win the Super Bowl. It's really as simple as that.

If this team is clicking it wins the Super Bowl.

Well, unless they can find a legit #2 WR in the film room, I'm not sure what else they can do. :)

2 Things need to happen on our O over the next 6 weeks:
1. Our Receivers need to stop dropping balls. Period.

2. We need Niang and Remmers healthy and back as options at RT. Wylie at RT makes my stomach feel weak.

The dropped balls and fumbles have definitely hurt us. I think we went through a bit of hard pressing trying to force things rather than adjust. The Raiders didn't play a shell defense as much as other teams are so we lit them up.

The entire point of that cover-2 shell type defense is to take away big plays. When you take away big plays it takes longer to score. When it takes longer to score you aren't going to score as much.

In years past we could play threw a 3 and out or two because we could score in 4 or 5 plays and keep lighting shit up.

Now a 3 and out means a lower score. So the defense has to step it up.

Mahomes has just got to keep hitting the underneath stuff and going to the RB dump offs when they see that Cover 2 look. There were also a few times yesterday that he could have used his legs to get close or to the first down marker but he was looking down field. Love that he keep shis eyes down-field but he has got to mix it up and take what's there. A few of those might have been first downs where we otherwise stalled out.

Raiders game was perfect combo of looking deep but also hitting the underneath stuff as well. Just keep that balance going. I Thought yesterday they went back to waiting on long developing plays and they started turtling again. Then they started hitting the underneath stuff again and were moving the ball.

Hopefully we are seeing Mahomes getting into that good balance form where he is taking what is there but also keeps checking for the deep shot.

They have.

Right now they have about a half game worth of such plays.

Against the Raiders, Vegas altered to 3 high in the 2nd and that allowed us to get our RPO game going.

Think I'll eat some turkey, dressing, sweet potatoes and some chicken & dumplings while I watch the AFC teams beat each other up as the Chiefs rest. Andy and crew will pour through the video and devise a game plan built around what we do best. After the bye our offense will take off and with the improved D we will roll.

The fact is the problems with the offense will remain as long as we continue to act like a spread team with too many weapons to cover.

We have 1 great WR and 1 great TE.

Our OL is built to knock people out.

So we start games now with Cover 2 breakers that might be ugly but work. We run power football.

Then we normally try to go back to our normal offense and.
..you saw the results vs Dallas.

Just enough tricks to run out the clock.

1. Yes

2. Not for an Andy Reid coached team. They come out of the bye on fire more often than not.

3. Yes

It's not rocket science to break the Cover 2, just run the ball, throw underneath and see how long the D stays in it. It's not a highlight reel or a high scoring game, but a win is a win and it's all about winning.

What we seem to forget is that Mahomes is young and played his college days basically running for his life. That translated into success during his 1st 3 years as a starter. Defenses have adjusted to that so now he has to change his game. Even legendary gunslingers like Favre, Marino, and Namath took the dump-off when it moved the chains.

I agree. Every team needs a bye. This is the latest I can remember them having one. They're about 2/3 through the regular season. I suppose a bye when they were 3-4 would have been ideal at the time, but it worked out in their favor with the Rodgers/Ruggs off-field issues.

Knock on wood, but the Chiefs are the healthiest team in the league. Not many guys need the bye to come back from injury. That said, everyone is banged up after 11 games of full contact. And I need a stress free football weekend. Thanksgiving weekend is the perfect time for that.

Congrats on your "Andy Reid is a horrible football coach" take for the day.

“Well……Bye…….Felicia”

If a team is playing 2 deep safeties, we could line up in our normal spread offense and have Mahomes just throw a quick out to the RB in the flat with no delay and its 7-8 yards.

Those plays are there but we need to learn to keep taking them.

Against Raiders, Vegas D altered in the 2nd half. Think of the Chiefs as a boxer with a deadly right hook. So Raiders kept close to us, and let us jab them in the face for a half. Then they made the mistake of getting frustrated with all the jabs to the face and backed up...then we unloaded on them.

Dallas never altered and it still frustrates us when teams don't let us throw our favorite punch.

Kelce, Hill, and Hardman needs to hit up Tony Gonzalez and have a week of catch practice on the football launchers.

100 catches, consecutive. Drop one, you're back to 1.

Kelce's gaffe for the INT was his 7th drop of the season. Not sure what's going on with him but if he gets his consistent, reliable hands back, it will make a world of difference.

The drops this year have been absolutely ridiculous across the board.

Something like 6 of Patrick Mahomes' interceptions this year have hit receivers first. It's insane.

Congrats on a pointless, inane response. Keep posting. One day, through sheer volume alone, you may get something semi intelligent and partially coherent out there.

In the meantime though, less people will notice your lobotomy if you wear a wig to hide the scars.

The short/quick passing game is the circuit breaker option whenever the offense stagnates.

Reid needs to call Mike Leach with Mahomes and discuss how to attack the cover 2. Screens, balls to the rb out in the flat and short crossing routes.

Leach can put it in air raid terms that Mahomes should be familiar with. Hopefully, it will click.

I don't know why we don't see more of those quick hitter type of plays. They did some of them in the first quarter with Tyreek and it was pretty effective. Then started trying to go deep all the time and sure enough the offense started getting bogged down again.

Wallcrawler are you aka ferrarispider95?

I still think extended blocking can numb the hands temporarily. Sammy had the drops at times. DBs hand fighting pays off when the WR's hand can numb up. Part of the game, on to the next play,

I'll tell you exactly what they can do, they can put Clyde in the passing gameplan like they drafted him to be.

There's no reason at all that they can't get the ball to him in space, he demonstrated an advanced route tree at LSU and good hands. Elusive in space, and dangerous. For some reason, we've just not utilized what appeared to be his best traits.

You've got Hill clearing out two guys deep; you've got Kelce clearing out two guys in the intermediate range, WR whoever has one guy occupied, and that leaves what, a LB to try to cover Clyde short?

I fully expected that to be the plan this season and am totally flabbergasted that they haven't yet.

I've wondered if that's not been Kelce's problem this season. He's getting mugged at the LOS just about every play he's not in motion. There have been several instances where he's gone to the bench grsabbing his hand or maybe his wrist.

We’ve always dreamed about having a decent defense to match our dominant defense

Our defense has been top 5. Offense needs to and will catch up. Some thoughts….

Patrick is legit learning to use the pocket
Kielce needs a week off. He’s favored his hands a few times and I’d have to think it’s contributing to uncharacteristic drops
Ceh is what he is. On the bright side he at least looks better now
I still think josh Gordon has a chance to get going and will be a factor later in the season
Noah gray is starting to play a bigger role
Andy too often abandons the wheel routes but he’s getting better
This team uses Demarcus and mecole less and less which I think will lead to less mistakes
The britt Reid thing isn’t over but it seems like the recent settlement is a turning point to getting Andy right

Most of all, This team responds best to adversity. The optimist in me says the shitty month of football will end up being a godsend. Our players are focused again. They have a chip on their shoulder. And the sideline dancing… watch out ! I think the team for a while was so good they were becoming bored with success. That was the most fun we’ve seen this team have in years

Mahomes has been in the NFL four years dumbass.

This can NOT be said enough.

The whole reason we drafted Clyde over Johnathon Taylor and Swift was because he was the premier pass catching RB coming out that year.

We have waited and waited for that to be in the game plan and it just doesnt happen.

After the Vegas game I had dreams about what Clyde could do with a game like that, just letting him do what Darrel did in that game.

Finally, I thought, this is how we roll teams that choose to play 2 high safeties. Darrel had the game of his career and it was fun to watch but Clyde in that roll is really going to be a game changer for this team.

That would be an unstoppable offense. Which is why the REST of the NFL shit bricks when we drafted him!

IT HAS TO HAPPEN! Andy will hopefully use the bye week to realize we have been wasting this guy. He is OUR missing #2 WR. Our 2 high safety ball breaker. By the 4th quarter the long balls will be there if we are destroying the flat and middle of the field.
Even if the Defense refuses to bring the safeties down, this is how we win!

Its been a weird year for us, with all the refusal to put the best players on the field, moving our pro bowl DT to DE. Somehow getting down to our third string RT who is a guard.

BUT TO ME and a few others, THIS is the most un explainable and stubborn decision of all. The secret weapon has been here the whole time.

USE IT!

This X a thousand! My baby girl is coming to town to visit for Thanksgiving and we are both cut from the same cloth when it comes to being a Chiefs fan and watching a game. It's never safe around us when we watch a game together...ask my wife and son.

Plus it want to spend my weekend reminding my Cowboy fan son in law about last weekend.

This may be the biggest mystery on this team the last two years.

It baffles me.

I hope Kelce is relaxing on a beach. Not partying his ass off or chasing women or any of that, just on a beach relaxing. He's been moving slower this year. Yes, he's getting older, but teams have just mauled him this year and last, so go and have the most chill vacation ever in Turks and Caico's and come back ready to rape faces.

I thought Clyde looked better in the Cowboys game. Since he's been out the oline has gotten more in sync and the screen game has started to show up. I'm more than willing to see how he fits into a more functional run/screen game before dismissing him as a wasted pick.

Coach EB leaving could help get this type of change. Need to get some fresh blood involved in game-planning.

Has anyone else noticed Patrick's funk has gotten better since his moron brother stopped making national headlines for dipshittery every week?