Have you ever had C-DIF (bacteria infection in your colon) or in your household?
 

Like any sensible human being I am turning to Chiefs Planet to validate my medical concerns...

A close friend is scheduled to visit their mom in a week, and the mom was just notified she has C-Dif. Just started antibiotics.

The mom has had diarrhea for months.

Supposedly this is pretty contagious through any microscopic fecal contact but the C-Dif spores can also live on surfaces for months and even on the infected person's skin (so washing hands after pooping is just one precautionary measure)

What's your real-world experience with C-DIF?

Asking for a friend before they cancel their trip.

(only tips include: washing all household touch surfaces with bleach, only bleach will do. Washing laundry on hot with bleach especially towels sheets wash cloths and underwear. Bathroom disinfection, obviously. Wash hands after going to bathroom obviously. But no touching at all?)

Girlfriend is a nurse practitioner, and what I've gathered from hearing her describe it at the hospital:

It is contagious.

It's the foulest smell that exists.

One solution is to have a poop transplant.

Not supposedly. IS very contagious.

Here for the poop transplant talk.

And yes, the fecal transplant is very effective.

It’s a spore former like many molds. It’s easy to kill the vegetative state but it will revert to spore form to protect itself from a hostile environment. This is what makes it such a problem to eradicate. Poop pills be magic BTW.

I worked with patients with Cdif. we had to gown up glove up and put shoe covers over our shoes before going into room. The oder of Cdif poop is unique and very gross and mostly runny. If it's solid then it's most likely not C dif but we've had to gather samples and put in a tube to be sent off to lab, not a fun task to do.

It's best be over precautions than not.

Wash everything with Bleach. Use gloves while using the bathroom and clean the bathroom with bleach after each use.

BTW - activated peroxide cleaners as well as hypochlorite (bleach) will kill the spore form. When laundering clothing, hot water and double wash cycles are advisable. The quat based “rinse” additives (eg Lysol sanitizer) may make you feel better, but won’t likely do much to help. Double/triple detergent and wash two times with hot water. Best of luck.

Highly contagious poop spores?

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Frank Clark seems to have battled back from it

Wife had it and was in hospital. Even after testing negative they very strongly encouraged her to spray all surfaces down in the bathroom after every bowel movement with a bleach water solution for several weeks.

Terms like "EAT SHIT" come to mind when wanting to fix this issue.

Can't this "friend" wait to visit?

I just re-read the OP - I would definitely, definitely cancel the trip and delay for a month or two.

At the bare minimum, if I did visit, I would be staying (eating, drinking, sleeping, showering, shitting, pissing) elsewhere and have a mask on and purell'd up when at the mom's place.

Yes on all accounts. A friend caught it while visiting a nursing home. She was absolutely miserable for weeks. She looked like death 2 weeks after being cleared of the infection.

No. Thanks for asking.

So is it safe to eat ass or not?

Maybe pour some bleach on that bhole first to be safe.

Anti-freeze enema

You don’t have to do droplet precautions for C-Diff, but definitely contact precautions.

I’d also not stay there.

I'd rather have the Rona than C-dif. You decently don't want that in your house hold and the chances of getting it again and again are very high. You don't develop immunity from it.

I've had a few dudes who've damaged my colon but not an infection

Cancel that trip. According to an admittedly poor source (my employee) my employees aunt got it and they made her quarantine.

Unless they want to shit their pants in the plane on the way back, uh yeah, cancel that trip.

If the trip is by car, get a rental with as much insurance as you can get. Then complain when you bring it back that the ride quality made you literally shit your pants and you want a refund.

and never with c-dif btw

oh my goodness that sounds awful!

There are worst things than death

I have no idea and if I do/did I don't really want to know.

So anal is out of the question?

It’s highly contagious. It’s the worst I’ve ever felt in my whole life. It took all my energy just to exist. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. Cancel the trip, it’s not worth it.

Also, the diarrhea that came out of me is the worst thing I’ve ever smelled in my life.

C-Diff is the worst. 100 percent do not visit that house. If you do end up visiting load up on probiotics.

I had C-Dif last year and couldn’t shake it for 3 months. It drains your soul and has something like a 6 percent death rate. Makes Rone look like nothing. I am s dealing with the side effects of c-did 18 months later. The only thing that kills c-dif spores is bleach.

Yes that is basically what killed my mom. She got it in the nursing home and it turned into toxic megacolon. Don't think she ever got rid of the c diff we brought her home and I took care of her until she passed. I wore gloves and It did smell bad obviously and very running,

You would think the mother would cancel the trip? If I had something as horrible as this sounds, I would tell my kids to stay the **** away from me until I was sure it was gone. Obviously, an end of life scenario like dirk was describing would be different, but a holiday trip or whatever? Nope.

Until this thread, I didn't know something like this existed. After researching it, it doesn't sound fun.

Me neither.

That's really more of an invasion than an infection

With that said, note to self, avoid.

Yeah, if I've got uncontrollable turbo diarrhea that smells like demon ass, the last thing in the world I'd want is a house full of family...

I assume flushing the toilet could make it somewhat airborne .

also
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20415567/
BACKGROUND. The high transmissibility and widespread environmental contamination by Clostridium difficile suggests the possibility of airborne dissemination of spores. We measured airborne and environmental C. difficile adjacent to patients with symptomatic C. difficile infection (CDI). METHODS. We conducted air sampling adjacent to 63 patients with CDI for 180 h in total and for 101 h in control settings. Environmental samples were obtained from surfaces adjacent to the patient and from communal areas of the ward. C. difficile isolates were characterized by ribotyping and multilocus variable-number tandem-repeat analysis to determine relatedness. RESULTS. Of the first 50 patients examined (each for 1 h), only 12% had positive air samples, most frequently those with active symptoms of CDI (10%, vs 2% for those with no symptoms). We intensively sampled the air around 10 patients with CDI symptoms, each for 10 h over 2 days, as well as a total of 346 surface sites. C. difficile was isolated from the air in the majority of these cases (7 of 10 patients tested) and from the surfaces around 9 of the patients; 60% of patients had both air and surface environments that were positive for C. difficile. Molecular characterization confirmed an epidemiological link between airborne dispersal, environmental contamination, and CDI cases. CONCLUSIONS. Aerosolization of C. difficile occurs commonly but sporadically in patients with symptomatic CDI. This may explain the widespread dissemination of epidemic strains. Our results emphasize the importance of single-room isolation as soon as possible after the onset of diarrhea to limit the dissemination of C. difficile.

Hospitals and rehabs use contact precautions. Gown, gloves and booties.



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Alcohol based cleaners don't kill the spores, so you must wash your hands. Bleach and peroxyacetic acid kill it. The antibiotics must likely to lead to C. diff are clindamycin, then fluoroquinolones. Treatment consists of oral vancomycin or fidaxomicin. Metronidazole is no longer used unless it is fulminant.

Have fun.