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Hog's Gone Fishin 01-01-2022 03:38 PM

Would you trade with the Bengals?
 
I'm watching the Bengals / ravens game and am just in awe of their receivers.

Would you trade our skill players straight up for theirs?

Hill, Kelce, Hardman, CEH

For

Boyd, Higgins, Chase, Mixon

Take the contracts and age out , just head for head .

ptlyon 01-01-2022 03:47 PM

**** the Bengals. Chuefs.

Skyy God 01-01-2022 03:50 PM

Nah, **** that shit.

Plus they aren’t likely to keep all 3 receivers once their rookie contacts expire.

Bowser 01-01-2022 03:51 PM

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loochy 01-01-2022 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16044265)
I'm watching the Bengals / ravens game and am just in awe of their receivers.

Would you trade our skill players straight up for theirs?

Hill, Kelce, Hardman, CEH

For

Boyd, Higgins, Chase, Mixon

Take the contracts and age out , just head for head .

Lol no.

I'll keep the two HOFers, the JAG, and the underperforming moron

MarkDavis'Haircut 01-01-2022 03:55 PM

Yes.

They can have Zay Jones, Bryan Edwards, and Josh Jacobs.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-01-2022 03:56 PM

I feel like this should be a DeBerg thread . . . . .

carcosa 01-01-2022 03:57 PM

Would you eat my ass hole for $ 1 dollar bucks?? !?!?

TEX 01-01-2022 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16044304)
I feel like this should be a DeBerg thread . . . . .

I thought it was, until I looked at the OP.

baitism 01-01-2022 03:58 PM

Not hard to look good going up the JV team.

smithandrew051 01-01-2022 03:59 PM

No. Hill and Kelce are the two best players listed. I’ll always take the top heavy group.

oldman 01-01-2022 04:00 PM

Nope.

ptlyon 01-01-2022 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16044308)
Would you eat my ass hole for $ 1 dollar bucks?? !?!?

Now THAT is a value menu

Halfcan 01-01-2022 04:02 PM

I would not trade Hill and Kelce for anything. They are the heart and soul of this team. Both bring way more than just stats like the Bunghole receivers do.

Megatron96 01-01-2022 04:06 PM

I wouldn't trade Kelce for anything. Anybody that would is not a KC fan.

rocknrolla 01-01-2022 04:06 PM

**** NO!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!

EPodolak 01-01-2022 04:09 PM

No sir.

I will say Mixon has had a better NFL career than I expected.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-01-2022 04:09 PM

Well, the Bengals are about to have 3, 1000 yard receivers in that group plus Mixon with 1500 scrimmage yards , What do you think Mahomes would do with that group especially with our OL.

That's why the question came to mind.

wazu 01-01-2022 04:12 PM

This would be a great trade for the Chiefs, there's no way in hell the Bengals would ever make it. The age of the players is everything for this one.

ClevelandBronco 01-01-2022 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16044332)
I wouldn't trade Kelce for anything. Anybody that would is not a KC fan.

Just to prove this guy correct, I would trade Kelce for anything.

Chitownchiefsfan 01-01-2022 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16044308)
Would you eat my ass hole for $ 1 dollar bucks?? !?!?

Only if he increases his rates.

Megatron96 01-01-2022 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 16044343)
Just to prove this guy correct, I would trade Kelce for anything.

:LOL::thumb:

Why Not? 01-01-2022 04:19 PM

I would trade CEH and Hardman for Mixon. That’s about it.

FloridaMan88 01-01-2022 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16044355)
I would trade CEH and Hardman for Mixon. That’s about it.

This.

Anyone who even suggests the possibility of trading the most explosive non QB playmaker in the NFL currently (Tyreek) is a dumbshit.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-01-2022 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16044358)
This.

Anyone who even suggests the possibility of trading the most explosive non QB playmaker in the NFL currently (Tyreek) is a dumbshit.

No, I agree. The question is would you take the package deal. Personally I'd have to give it some serious consideration. Kelce might be the deal breaker for me.

jettio 01-01-2022 04:32 PM

A big part of the Chiefs success is chemistry.

Chiefs went 50 years between Super Bowl wins and I notice that this Andy Reid-Patrick Mahomes-Brett Veach led team understand that team culture is a big part of this good thing the Chiefs have going.

They are not running simulation games to decide the NFL season.

The proposed hypothetical would have to be another team other than the Chiefs.

carcosa 01-01-2022 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16044308)
Would you eat my ass hole for $ 1 dollar bucks?? !?!?

jj if you want to take me up on this offer just say so, hitting the thumbs down sends mixed signals

Deberg_1990 01-01-2022 05:02 PM

I would consider it.

smithandrew051 01-01-2022 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 16044422)
I would consider it.

For just this season? Or the next 5 years?

I think it’s ridiculous, but there are those who feel that way.

smithandrew051 01-01-2022 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16044299)
Lol no.

I'll keep the two HOFers, the JAG, and the underperforming moron

I’ve never heard anyone refer to Kelce as a JAG and Hill as an underperforming moron.

duncan_idaho 01-01-2022 05:07 PM

Not just "no" but "abso-****ing-lutely no."

Boyd and Mixon are good players. The Bengals have skill players 3-6 on that list.

But there's a BIG gap from 2 to 3. Give me the two best guys (by far) and I can make do with lesser tertiary and quarternary options.

Bump 01-01-2022 05:14 PM

Hardman and CEH I'd trade to anybody

HemiEd 01-01-2022 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16044265)
I'm watching the Bengals / ravens game and am just in awe of their receivers.

Would you trade our skill players straight up for theirs?

Hill, Kelce, Hardman, CEH

For

Boyd, Higgins, Chase, Mixon

Take the contracts and age out , just head for head .

You shouldn't be dissing Pringle like that.

mr. tegu 01-01-2022 05:41 PM

No. There is nothing special or unique about their players. Yes, they are very good as a group due to none being duds or below average, but is anyone besides Chase really that much better than other good receivers?

Hill and Kelce both do things and possess skills that basically no other receivers have. And we have them both.

Chief Pagan 01-01-2022 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16044265)

Take the contracts and age out , just head for head .

The only way this would begin to make sense is to take the contracts and age into account.

Mahomes and Andy could make this group look pretty good and KC would be set both age and salary cap wise.

Not having Hill's contact coming due? That frees up a lot of money with the WRs on rookie contracts.

And Kelce isn't getting younger.

But otherwise, screw that.

Pitt Gorilla 01-01-2022 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16044426)
Not just "no" but "abso-****ing-lutely no."

Boyd and Mixon are good players. The Bengals have skill players 3-6 on that list.

But there's a BIG gap from 2 to 3. Give me the two best guys (by far) and I can make do with lesser tertiary and quarternary options.

This is correct.

threebag 01-01-2022 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16044308)
Would you eat my ass hole for $ 1 dollar bucks?? !?!?

bet you might have some takers if Billay splashed it with some hot dog water

ForeverIowan 01-01-2022 09:01 PM

LMAO Hill and Kelce are arguably the best pass catching duo of their era and both are headed for Canton. Mixon, Higgins, and Boyd are fine players. Chase you would think will be a top ten WR in the league for years to come. He is not on the same level as Tyreek.

Titty Meat 01-01-2022 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16044308)
Would you eat my ass hole for $ 1 dollar bucks?? !?!?

Yes

RealSNR 01-01-2022 09:19 PM

We don't need any of those losers on the Bengals. We have Daurice Fountain.

big nasty kcnut 01-01-2022 09:52 PM

Hell to the naw! To the naw to the naw naw!

BWillie 01-01-2022 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16044265)
I'm watching the Bengals / ravens game and am just in awe of their receivers.

Would you trade our skill players straight up for theirs?

Hill, Kelce, Hardman, CEH

For

Boyd, Higgins, Chase, Mixon

Take the contracts and age out , just head for head .

Yes absolutely. I dont even know how this is a question. They are all younger too.

TLO 01-01-2022 10:00 PM

Happy Birthday!!!

Titty Meat 01-01-2022 10:01 PM

Yes I would trade 2 hall of famers and other guys who've won a super bowl, gotten us to another, and are on track to make another for some guys who've won nothing and had a few nice seasons.

ForeverIowan 01-01-2022 10:02 PM

Go freaking get Jameson Williams in the draft. A legit #2 WR will only make Kelce and Hill that much better. This discussion is just nonsense. Think safeties are playing deep this seeason? Put Jameson Williams opposite Cheetah and run Hardman out of the slot.

Chiefspants 01-01-2022 10:14 PM

Maybe if they had Manziel

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-01-2022 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16044740)
We don't need any of those losers on the Bengals. We have Daurice Fountain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16044789)
Maybe if they had Manziel


Now we're talking!

Holladay 01-01-2022 10:37 PM

Quote:

Not hard to look good going up the JV team.
This

BWillie 01-01-2022 10:45 PM

Mahomes would throw for 5,000 yards, 52 TDs with Bengals WR and an above avg RB

RealSNR 01-01-2022 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16044823)
Mahomes would throw for 5,000 yards, 52 TDs with Bengals WR and an above avg RB

He's got unparalleled chemistry with Tyreek. Why the **** would you give that up for douche**** rookie WR who can be had every goddamn year in the draft?

BWillie 01-01-2022 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16044830)
He's got unparalleled chemistry with Tyreek. Why the **** would you give that up for douche**** rookie WR who can be had every goddamn year in the draft?

He does but its mainly because the Bengals have three good receivers. We have one.

bevischief 01-02-2022 10:42 AM

BBQ

tredadda 01-02-2022 11:12 AM

Can we do an ala carte type of thing? I would gladly give them Hardman for Chase.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-02-2022 11:23 AM

They're referring to Higgins as the next Megatron. They have three #1 receivers.

CapsLockKey 01-02-2022 11:52 AM

Amazing the narrative that is being spun by the media because of one game against a depleted team. They have a nice group of young offensive skill players no doubt but you would think the Chiefs are going up against prime Montana, Rice, Moss, TO and Emmitt Smith this weekend. It's like the first 14 games of the season don't count. Unless of course you are the Chiefs, losses that happened in September are being used against them. I guess it makes for more entertaining takes then simply saying the Chiefs are king of the mountain until someone knocks them off.

Mr. Wizard 01-02-2022 01:18 PM

For number one hell yea

Redbled 01-02-2022 01:56 PM

Chase is the best receiver on the field today.

RunKC 01-02-2022 02:26 PM

I wish we drafted Tee Higgins instead of Clyde. He was picked with the next pick after us ugh

louie aguiar 01-02-2022 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16047196)
I wish we drafted Tee Higgins instead of Clyde. He was picked with the next pick after us ugh

Yes. This

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-02-2022 03:29 PM

I'd absolutely make the swap

Mr. Wizard 01-02-2022 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16048212)
I'd absolutely make the swap

Me too, if that team gets an online and some dbs they will be deadly

BWillie 01-02-2022 03:44 PM

Tried to tell you guys.

We have great weapons but the Bengals weapons are next level. Id still take our group because of Mahomes but Cinci just needs some olineman and yowser

Megatron96 01-02-2022 03:47 PM

Maybe Chase and/or Higgins for Hill. At least those guys catch with their hands.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-26-2022 01:15 PM

Thought I'd bump this just for fun. After what just happened I see a no trade clause among CP.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-26-2022 01:16 PM

Would you trade Chase for Hill ?

TLO 01-26-2022 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16108800)
Would you trade Chase for Hill ?

Absolutely not

saphojunkie 01-26-2022 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 16108806)
Absolutely not

No but I’d trade Higgins for CEH… dammit…

tredadda 01-26-2022 01:26 PM

Kelce and Hill are well on their way to the HOF. Zero chance I would trade that HOF talent playing at peak level in the NFL for anyone.

Chiefshrink 01-26-2022 02:15 PM

Straight Up Hardman for Higgins - Sure !!

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-26-2022 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16108957)
Straight Up Hardman for Higgins - Sure !!

Man it sure seems like Hardman has found a niche that devastates defenses.

Chiefshrink 01-26-2022 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16108969)
Man it sure seems like Hardman has found a niche that devastates defenses.

and why it is "even steven" trade because when you look at Higgins production compared to Hardman, Hardman is still gadget but Higgins is the real deal.:thumb: Higgins is our No.2 that really is a No.1 anywhere else for the most part.

smithandrew051 01-26-2022 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16108969)
Man it sure seems like Hardman has found a niche that devastates defenses.

I agree with this.

Really have to love what our staff is doing right now, offensively are least. They’ve really figured out how to use this cast of characters to their best.

Kelce: absolutely dominating over the middle of the field.
Hill: used in a multitude of ways and we’re seeing the deep stuff open back up
Hardman: ultimate Andy Reid gadget weapon
Pringle: (mostly) reliable when targeted. He’s been really good reading Mahomes on broken plays lately.
McKinnon: perimeter runs and passing game
CEH: interior runs
D Rob: pretty much no targets, so no opportunities to run backwards or fumble


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