Some Things About Today's Game: Week 17 KC 31 Zebras 34
 

Some Things About Today’s Game Week 17: KC 31 Zebras 34

The Chiefs did not get their “Ass Whipped.” They lost on a field goal kicked on the final play of the game. So stow that “ass kicked” garbage. It’s not true.

This is the first time we’ve lost a game in the last eight games. This was on the road, missing our two starting tackles. When you lose your two starting tackles, things usually don’t go well. Go back and watch last years Super Bowl if you don’t believe that.

When you get outscored 17-3 in the second half of a shootout game, you don’t deserve to win. Go back and watch the KC-Tennessee playoff game from the Alex Smith era if you don’t believe that.

Chase had more yards receiving and more TDs than Mahomes had passing in both of those categories. If your DC can’t adjust to a guy who is burning you deep over and over, you don’t deserve to win.

The Bengals got six first downs awarded on penalties. Chiefs got Zero.

Get over the kickoff return call back. Anderson was holding. That’s what happens when you activate a practice squad guy in a big game. They make stupid mistakes. You have to just get past it. Chiefs didn’t. They only scored three points in the second half

If you put Sorenson on deep coverage, you deserve to lose. The first seven games of the season should have taught Spags that. If Sorenson is back on this team next year, something is seriously wrong with Bruce Valanche. When you give up a third and 27 deep in the fourth quarter, you deserve to lose.

The last minute of this game was eerily similar to the loss against the Raiders in Oakland three years ago. How many chances are the stripes going to give the Cincy offense to win? Five? Six? More??? Answer: Whatever it takes.

We may need to draft another offensive tackle next year. Niang seems to be injury prone and is unreliable for the long run of an entire NFL season. Get a Free Agent, or just keep Wiley starting at right tackle.

Silver Lining Stuff: Thuney is a very good offensive lineman. Hardman made a nice catch. Kelce got his 700th reception faster than any other tight end in the history of the NFL. Williams is a really good running back.

Future: We’ve probably lost the number one seed. Tits play the Texans next week. The Tits won’t make the mistake the Bolts made, and they’ll crush them. The winners of the other three divisions, Bills, Bengals and Tits, all beat us head to head in the regular season. So we have no complaint if we’ve lost the number one seed. That was the prize today, and this team failed to secure the prize. The guys needs to suck it up, prepare for Denver and get in the mind set to deal out some payback in the playoffs. That’s all I have to say about that. It’s very hard to make it to three Super Bowls in a row. We’re seeing how hard that road is now.

A brutal loss. No doubt. No matter what, we’re the AFC West Champions. Hopefully this will wake the team up and give them some motivation. Beat Denver. Beat them down. Beat them bad.

In 1st.
Yeah, this 1 hurt. Zebras gifted this one IMO.

My kid almost put his fist through my 65 in. Glad I was in the way…….

No. The only reason we lost is because Hammock didn't start the thread because he is afraid to upset the girl who's going to leave him at some point anyway. Just ask him.

Very somber George. Said it in another thread, this team ain't ****ing around and finding out like this game.

Oh. And we should've left ward in Cincinnati like the Bucs left brown.

Tough pill to swallow today. Hate blaming refs but holy shit that was a job.

Even so spags had an absolute shit game.

Andy hates Gore for some reason.

Why did Andy take the TO with 10 seconds on b4 2 min warning with clock already stopped?

Why not let them score and save TO for your all pro once in a generation QB to go down and tie it or go for the win with 2?

Didn't matter cuz refs gave them the game on a phantom hands to the face call.

Really rough losing a game like that because the officials really wanted the Bengals to win and that gives me less faith in this league. What's the point when they can take a game away from you just like that?

Trying to look past it. Take the 2 seed and win.

Oh and **** the NFL for getting rid of the bye for 2 seed and adding another playoff team.

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And then some!!!

I don't mind watching a good old ass-kicking.

A few teams have handed those to the Chiefs this year...

But this loss is def more than Chase just running deep. The refs destroyed our defense will in the second half. I'm proud of them for holding on the final 4 snaps before the refs have them a free first down to kick the game winner.

This game should have went to Overtime.

Andy needs leaves politics at home and run Gore

LOL, Yes!


Priorities. He needs to get them.

Anally fisted by the refs.

Come on guys
 

Find a place to send Ward & Sorenson. They did not just have a bad game today but constantly play marginally. Sure Sorenson has made some great plays in the last few games to atone for previous sins but overall he is weak. We need to lose these guys or the deep balls will always plaque us

You make good points, George. I still don’t feel any better.

I wont take anything away from Chase, he balled out and whipped everyone he faced fair and square... dude is spectacular

And Spags gameplan WAS absolute garbage, just inexplicable after the run we've had... but no one is ever going to convince me that this game wasn't steered by the refs

The NFL wanted a feel good story, and by God they made sure it happened

Tyreek dropped a 65 yard pass that hit him in the chest. Spags decided to phone this one in. Some of those penalties were obviously terrible calls but the Chiefs did a great job of beating themselves as well.

Agree entirely with this post. We didn't deserve it, even with the awful refs

our dbs must have a reputation or something because the refs were all over us
Spags did not adjust at halftime

So let me get this straight:

On one had we had too many penalties that hurt us too much

but on the other hand this was one of the worst officiated games in the NFL this season


:hmmm:

Well, it is what it is. On to the Broncos. Take care of business going forward.

We must keep the 2 seed. It's not that bad to have if not the one.

Agreed with the sentiment of the post... there's a lot that could be complaints, but aren't, like the holding on the kickoff return and several of the DPIs that were clearly DPIs.

That said... the 3rd down DPI on what looked like Burrow throwing a comeback route and the WR not coming back was total bullshit, I believe on their go ahead drive.

And end of the day regardless of the outcome, it's a ****ing shame the final few minutes were completely ruined by the refs. I could only laugh at the double holding call, how sadly fitting.

The strategy of the final couple minutes along with the goal line stand and whether the guy got in on 4th down...... that was such a great ending, ****ing ruined by the refs. :shake:

TAKE.IT.OUT.ON.DAT.ASS!

Yeah that was really too bad. Imagine if they turn it over on downs after going shotgun there. As soon as they marked him short I think everyone in KC was just bracing for the flag.

It sucks to lose, but it really sucks to have to listen to the talking heads suck Bengal cock all week when they barely won and we got ****ed.

Thanks for the perspective. Refs blew it. So did we. On to the Donkos.

Astute recap as always, G-blow. Very mature and with just enough grumbling.

I hated this game. Every time the Chiefs stopped a Cincy play I was just waiting for the flag. Or when Chiefs made an advance I was also waiting for a flag. When you are constantly praying "no flags" out loud for the whole second half of a game, it just ain't right.

I DON'T think the refs are in on some conspiracy, tho. I understand how it makes a fan's ego feel good to think that -- that we are a better team who got cheated out of a win.

To me it's more like these refs were officiating together for the first time, and they get conservative and make mistakes, or call things that more comfortable refs would normally not, like in several other games we've played. Just, why did it have to be THIS game?! So many head-scratching calls, it felt like when those replacement refs were reffing during the zebra strike.

Whatever. Hope we crush the Donks and every team in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.

Ward was with Chase all day, even had his hand on the ball twice,he can’t help it if the ball was perfectly placed and Chase is taller and has great hands. It wouldn’t have hurt to have rolled some safety help over to his side occasionally. He wasn’t the problem.

Solid takes across the board George.

really?

Yes

You could just not do that. :shrug:

Then you don't know much about football, coverage was pretty tight by Ward, maybe 2-3 receivers in the entire league who make those plays, and probably not all of them. Chase made all those 50/50 catches today, he was 100/0, some shitty luck and great skill.

You can suck his cock for all I care, still, F ward.

LMAO, cut ward, nice take...

today, all the Chiefs did was gift us another game on the road to the SUPER BOWL

I almost never post in this thread. But tonight its like I need to.

We got raped. And I hate people who blame officials. But this was real.

The NFL should never assign a throw together team of officials this late in the season where every game has consequences

Chiefs will be fine, Andy will get them over it, and the next game is the next game

But for these players, what happened was awful and an insult

My rant over. Those of you on discuss game time, you all are fun as hell and all good people.

when all is said and done we are probably still hosting AFCCG

the worst thing that happened today was we were forced to watch Mahomes play another game at home

man I can't watch coverage of the post game

just absolutely fellating Cincinnati

The Chiefs are everyone's Super Bowl, it's what happens when you are on top of the mountain.

Most of us have been around long enough to know bullshit when we see it, glad you agree

But as you're right, the only quick fix right now is to play better... we're moving on to Denver

The network highlights are showing this game as if there was no ****ery at all.

of course... promoting a bad product is not going to go well for the NFL.

? Will they fall now like the rest

Replay of the Bengals final drive:

Good read George.

I agree mostly.

I really think Spags called a bad game. If Chase is going to have a game like that (obviously not all of his games are like that or he'd have 3000 yards this year). The gameplan probably wasn't a bad one, but if Chase is going to go have himself a day, you need to adjust. That wasn't it. And when everyone ran upto the line on 3rd and 27 I literally yelled OH NO because I knew it would happen. Spags had a bad game. Hopefully that's the end of it.

I think Ward didn't have all that bad of a game. His technique looked good, he rad the plays and put himself in the right position most of the time. Chase is just better. I'm not sure prime Revis could have locked him down. Burrow was definitely **** it chuck it his way and was placing the ball really well. I don't know what the offseason answer is, but my opinion is that whatever the answer is, todays game didn't change it. Spags definitely screwed up IMO.

Hopefully they turn up the rape from here on out and fist the competition moving forward.

I keep saying it. Shut that shit off. I leave all of it on mute until the game starts. Periodically I'll watch the highlights on football night in America but that's it. If I'm doing other things or don't get it shut off in time, there is literally never any insight. Ever. The announcers have stuff that is valuable, but the pre-post is pure unadulterated garbage.

Just shut it off dude. ****ING ALL OF IT.

#49 should have only play within the 1st 7 yards form scrimmage, beyond that he is total liability. Or find somebody better.

First off, credit to Cincinnati. Their team is fun to watch, I must admit. Burrow was worthy of the number one overall pick in his draft class, Mixon is a quality running back, Ja'Marr Chase is already an elite receiver and Tee Higgins is not too shabby as their number two wide receiver.

That being said, defense (particularly linebackers and secondaries) got their shit pushed in by the Cincinnati offense today, Ward especially.

This loss really hurts because it cost us a chance to be in driver's seat for first round bye in AFC Playoffs, especially considering Tennessee has the head-to-head win over us.

George, great read as always - sorry it is under these circumstances.

This game was steered by the refs - yes JB to Chase numerous times was legit but DAMN - the mystery calls were completely ridicules! We are now the #2 seed which is better than NO seed at all - we will have to work harder but it can be achieved! We are the CHIEFS and we will prevail! Chin UP and move on! We can do this! :thumb:

IMO the Titans DESERVE the #1 seed. If Henry does not get hurt they probably win 13 or 14 games.

more disappointed in the outcome than mad

Even at halftime, you could tell the CBS crew was slightly biased, mainly discussing how to beat the Chiefs.

Can we rip the brakes off of this offense? They need to go go go and never stop...


And on the other side did we needed this to feed our play off run?

Thanks for the write up Mr G.

My thoughts are that this loss was more on coaching than the zebras. Yes the Chiefs were unproportionately penalized 10x to the Bengals 5. Yes, those 10 penalties resulted in 6 Bengals first downs vs only 1 first down for the Chiefs on the 5 penalties. Hard to overcome that.

However, This game (known to us from this day forward as the “3rd and 27” game) was more about lack of adjustments. When you play man press coverage and one receiver carves for 200+ and 3 touches, that is a fail. When the offense scores 28 in H1 but only 3 in H2, that is a fail.

That said, this loss may just be what the team needed. They were riding a little high in the britches. Hopefully, this will motivate them for another Super Bowl run …

Why did Steve need a reminder that Sorensen is more shitty linebacker than shitty db?

Why did Steve consistently allow Chase to be in si gle coverage?

Why in the name of all that is holy would you zero blitz on 3rd n 27 IN A TIED FOOTBALL GAME?

Hopefully someone can find out these answers, and explain to Steve that this is not smart football.

Just be happy this lesson is only costing us the 1 seed and the bye, and not ending our season.

Simply put, someone needs to un**** Steve Spagnuolo as soon as possible.

What more do you need to see from a singular player absolutely SKULL ****ING YOUR SCHEME TO DEATH before you take a moment and say hmm, Probably should help out on this guy?

****ing hell this was excruciating to watch due to just pure stupidity.

Chiefs have now lost to every single AFC contender.

They beat up on the losers of the AFC West and NFC Least. Beat the Packers without Rodgers. Spags defense has been bad this year against all the top teams.

Thanks George. You rock.

IMHO: Spags screwed everyone in the Chiefs' organization and every fan in Chiefs' Kingdom today. That's an impressive feat for a 62 yr old man. Hell, that's an impressive feat for any man.

He's witnessed weeks of other teams scheming to keep Hill suppressed. And yet he can't do anything but leave Ward on an island... allowing a rookie receiver 266 receiving yards and 3 TDs. Thornhill is our most athletic safety. He should have been rolled out there to help and force someone else from the Bengals to make a play. Spags did NOT do his job today. Extremely disappointing and painfully unimpressive. But the Donks are up next. Gotta move forward. Go Chiefs!

FORWARD PROGRESS.

Some, ahem, "questionable officiating" in that one, too George. Not a great example today.

Hope you and the Mrs had a good holiday. Happy New Year.

Thank you George! And Happy New Year!

Horrible defensive game by the Chiefs. Reminded me of the first 8 games of the season. And that is disturbing. The defense literally walked it in today. No hussle. It's as if they decided to take this game off now that they have the division locked up.

We deserved to lose this one. Cincy really wanted it, right from the get go. And yes, the refs were horrible and there should be a shitstorm raised by the front office on them. Won't change the outcome, but still this type of mugging shouldn't be allowed by NFL officiating.

So I was wrong about the Chiefs being an average 9-8 team this year. Wrong by two games. They will be an 11-6 team this year and get eliminated in the playoffs. And deservedly so.

Someone send Frank Clark and Sorenson packing. Please.

Hoo boy no kidding!

Exactly why the Chiefs scored on all first four possessions and held onto the lead into the 4th qtr, losing on the last play of the game.

Refs didn't steal it. We lost. There absolutely WAS a hands to the face and you'd have to be a blind homer to deny it. We lost. Move on and quit crying about it. The seasons not over.

The big thing I noticed was how well Mahomes' footwork got in comparison the beginning of the season. It was like he suddenly decided to take that facet/skill seriously

Are you sure you're a Chiefs fan?

And Cincy came right back, each and every time. They were playing for playoff position and they were hungrier than we were.

I agree with gblowfish on the Chiefs drafting an offensive tackle this year. I've zero knowledge of this year's OL class but if there's a RT with Creed and Tre's physicality, I would love to plug him in over there to complete the sheer violence and nastiness of that right side.

I felt bad for Ward he played about as perfect position as a CB could and he has been playing good all year. I hope this doesn't discourage his confidence. I haven't seen a WR do things like that than Randy Moss or Owens. I mean Chase is going be something special in the league and the Bungels are a young team they maybe formidable foes in the playoffs for us for years to come.

Spot on, my friend. I'm not going to disagree with anything you said, George. The NFL got just what they wanted, barring complete meltdowns next week. Was there a thumb on the scales to make it happen? Well, let's just say the zebras are paid by "New York".

Let's face it, Goodell and pals are just jizzing themselves over the playoffs in the AFC. You'll have the Chiefs vs. the Chargers (in Jim Nantz's voice) "An old fashioned AFC West shootout, Mahomes vs. Herbert". "A tough Colt's team vs. Burrow and the New Kids". "A rivalry that goes back to the rough and tumble days of the AFL with Allen and the Bills against the Pats with the Old Master. Does he have yet another bit of magic in that hoodie?" Face it, nobody gives 2 shits that the Titan's got the #1 seed because it's all about the ratings. They won't be allowed to make it to the AFC Championship game because they don't have a poster boy QB. Say all you want about Jones, but the only way the Pats make it to the Superbowl is if Tampa wins the NFC. If your team isn't QB'd by Mahomes, Herbert, Burrow, or to lesser extent, Allen, no one other than their fans gives a shit about the Colts or Titans.

The NFC will be between the Packers and the Bucs. Why? The thought of the Old Guard vs. the Young Guns have Madison Avenue churning out Doritos and Bud Light commercials right now. Sure, they'll try to pimp that up with the drama (?) with Rodgers contract and Brady's age, but bottom line is it won't matter. As long as one of them represents the NFC, the coffers of the NFL will overflow.

It’s been 31 years since your team won a playoff game…

Being a Bengal troll is one thing but pretending to be a KC fan is even worse

Agreed on this. We've rightly talked up the defence the past 8 weeks or so so it's only right to point out the failings now too. People are concentrating on our CBs but our LBs looked awful in coverage. I think there's enough talent there, sometimes you just get outplayed, but as much as we want a DE there's room to improve at all levels. Hopefully some comes with natural development and good coaching as we've seen with Fenton and Ward, but it feels like we're getting all we can from the ability of players. At some point Hitchens, Sorensen, Ward etc need to be upgraded. Easier said than done with our cap space, especially with the need for another WR and DE.

Cincy are good and are going to be a problem with Burrows, Chase and Higgins. BUT, their OL is not sustainable and their LBs and secondary are nothing special. There's no guarantee they manage to improve either and I'm confident we beat them in a rematch assuming we'd bracket Chase.

The NFL is setting Mahommes (face of the NFL) up for a revenge tour to beat everyone who beat him during their regular season Super Bowl.

The optimist in me wants to say this is getting the bad juju out of our system one last time before the playoffs.

Spags is better than this. He’s usually been good at adjustments. Hopefully a ton to learn with what happened today.

The nfl is on notice about officiating. They’re getting universally panned for this. Hopefully works to our advantage. Better yet, the nfl goes back to loosening emphasis on DBs. It hurts our offense but we need this on defense.

On offense the same issues. Missed opportunities because of uncharacteristic drops. Tyreek and kelce both left points on the board yet again.

My one huge disappointment is I don’t think this settled the ceh thing even though I think it should have. I’ve been iffy about darrel as a lead back but he was decent yesterday. Way better than CEHs best.. May get lost in a loss. And their refusal to use gore as a #2 rb is still so damn confusing.

And missed tackles. I don’t see that happening again

This is why you don't pay corners.

Good, smart, athletic, versatile safeties are more valuable, in my opinion.

they don't let corners actually do anything but shadow receivers. It sucks.

This is pretty much it for me as why we lost.

Also the defensive scheme call on 3rd and 27 was an abortion. Did Spags not see what their receivers were doing all game? Then you put Ward on him all by himself? Just inexcusable.

If they picked up even 15 yards they most likely kick a FG or face a 4th and 10. They basically took the game away from Mahomes.

The REFs blew too late calls - the horsecollar that wasn't and a DPI against Fenton I believe when their receiver ran the wrong way and there was NO HOLD, TURNING THE RECEIVER OR BUMP. The defender brushed his hand across the guys midsection and it caused no issues. I'm sure if I look I can find a penalty or two against the Bengals that were never called.

I felt early on in the 3rd that we were in trouble but I kept hope and didn't want to be a downer. You just felt that Cincy wanted it much more than we did.

Thanks GB and let's pray for a Texans miracle of beating the Titans. If not, let's rest our starters.

Oh sure. NOW the sports networks are giving the Chiefs some air time past 30 seconds.

LMAO

Great read, George. Thank you for still doing them.

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Seriously. Good lord.


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Wooow, in all these years I've never caught that one before... incredibly timely on multiple levels

I can think of at least 6 calls that helped them come back each time. They don't come all the way back if even one is not called. It had nothing to do with them being more hungry, because they were well fed during this game.