Arkush won't vote Rodgers for MVP because he's a jerk
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s the audio of an MVP voter going on the record and saying he won’t vote for Aaron Rodgers because he’s “the biggest jerk in the league” and “the way he’s carried himself is inappropriate.”<br><br>�� Your personal feelings don’t matter.<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/670TheScore?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@670TheScore</a>)<a href="https://t.co/1mG5q6aR4z">pic.twitter.com/1mG5q6aR4z</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1478563549010145289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some people should have their MVP voting privileges revoked. Good night.</p>&mdash; Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/status/1478592556501848065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He doesn't come across as a team player. That's invaluable.

Probably has more to do with the fact that he's from Chicago and doesn't like being owned by Rodgers in the way that he is. What a puss.

He’s about 1/100 the jerk that Brady is.

Just because you think someone is a jerk is not a reason not to vote for him.

Rogers is probably the best choice for MVP right now.

Just because you think someone is a jerk is not a reason not to vote for him.

Rogers is probably the best choice for MVP right now.

It's not MVNP (Most Valuable Nice Person)

ok so when the NFL comes out with a "Leagues Biggest Jerk" award and AB beats Rodgers 99-1, we'll all know where that single vote came from

Let's be honest: it's because he lied about his vaccination status.

Questions

1. Who is Arkush?
2. Why should I care who he's voting for or why he won't vote for Rodgers?

1. Who the hell knows? I've never heard of her.

2. Because it's a football message board and we need something to talk about.

He also has a copy of Atlas Shrugged so you can imagine how much that was discussed on Twitter

No1curr

If it was, Simply Red would win every year!

I agree with Brandt. He should have his voting privileges taken away.

They should give him two votes.

Rodgers has a copy of that book? Hmmm.....I gained a little more respect for him. :clap:

That book is over a 1000 pages. Who the hell has time to read all that?

It doesn't even have any pictures! Not even of John Gault. They keep asking who he is, but nary a snapshot. I prefer images...or pop-ups, preferably.

Rodgers claimed on the McAfee podcast he only got it to trigger people.


Dilly dilly on having goals and achieving them I guess0

He shouldn't get a vote. It's not who I like personally award. What a dick.

Meanwhile Brady vouches for the biggest asshole in the league and everyone is cool with it. Not to mention telling a coach of the Saints to go **** himself.

He has a weekly "book club" on the PatMcafee show. Dudes a different guy. Hes weird but hes very well thought out. He reminds me of that guy in school thats so intelligent that he rarely truly enjoys things, once the initial challenge of its over hes bored with it.

I know! He seems nice!

The Chiefs might not have won the AFC West if not for Rodgers not being able to play that game against us, so he certainly deserves it in my opinion.

Simply Red would vote for me.

Exactly right.

When Rodgers had that BR article come out years ago about how he was a terrible teammate, the media defended him.

It is all about his status and how he didn't tell the media. They pegged him as the QB most likely to be vaccinated.

Rodgers lied, he is still wormy

I still think he is an arrogant dude and his comment about bashing people for trusting their faith irked me but he has said 4/5 things over the last 6 months that have been spot on regarding the vaccine and the media.

:rolleyes:

This is baseless. The overwhelming majority of his teammates love and respect the guy.

Everyone who thinks for themselves instead of buying-in to all MSM propaganda is a jerk. I thought this was common knowledge.

I mean the dude has always been a dickhead. This article breaks down his years long grudges he held against teammates in the past. Rodgers has always been like this but it was hidden in the veneer of being Mr. discount double check. Rodgers just finally embraced the heelturn this year, which makes me respect him more, tbh.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-in-green-bay

Other than Mahomes, Rodgers is my favorite QB in the league. This year has done nothing but solidify that for me.

He’s my favorite QB to watch on the field not names Patrick Mahomes.

/raises hand

I read it a few years ago.

Well, I hadn't heard about that. I have known plenty people who have had that opinion. Doesn't mean I dislike them, necessarily. But yeah, that would irk me.

Because he didn't get vaccinated? Lol. That is strange, bro.

Generally true, but he showed the most glaring lack of physical courage at a key moment on 3rd down last year in the NFC Championship game against the Buccaneers.

Seems he would have scored a TD or gotten to at least the 2 yard line if he had any physical courage at all on that play.

He may not have done half as much of this drama queen shit since that qame if he had any physical courage on that play.

Seems like a lot of having so much nerve for head games comes from his not having any nerve on that play.

Where in any of my posts did I say that? Lol. Thanks in advance, bro.

For all of the criticism Patrick has gotten this season, Rodgers has had multiple huge games in his career where he's flat out disappeared and gone through the motions after going down by multiple scores. I have serious doubts, for instance, that Rodgers comes back from 0-24 with how he's mailed it in after being in holes like that in his career.

But when he's clicking? Dude is poetry in motion.

Of course that dumb**** likes Atlas Shrugged.

Well, at least the guy is honest about his vote.

Yes, he has amazing ability to let his eyes tell his arm what to do to get the ball where it should go at a trajectory and velocity that works.

Yeah. I have dealt with them too. They can have their opinion on it. It irks me but I do find it a bit elitist. But hey, if I voted for the MVP it wouldn't impact my vote. It is about play on the field first.

Historically, Rodgers has horrible numbers regarding comeback attempts from double digits or higher. I need to find the article. It was telling.

****s are everywhere. He deserves no vote.

This ain't a popularity contest.

I mean, is that not the implication?

We're in a thread about an MVP voter saying he won't vote for Rodgers because he's an asshole.

Here you mention "MSM propaganda":

Is this not a reference to the "immunization" scandal?

Then here you responded to an article posted basically saying that behind-the-scenes, Rodgers is a total dick:

And then claim that, 'after everything that's happened this year', you like him even more.

.. So what is it really?

Incredible read, wow... he's an even bigger chode than I thought

The hilarious part is the media that now rails against him were angry over that article. They always liked Rodgers because he was the urbane, slick QB and not one of those old country boy QBs. They liked having a QB that shared their culture.

The whole vaccine controversy was the sole turning point. Because most of the media are urbane and share the same viewpoints. And they assumed that Rodgers being from Cal would be vaccinated for sure. Turns out, he wasn't and worst of all, he lied to them about it.

Exactly right, step outside the orthodoxy and they'll turn on their heros like a pack of hyenas

Yup. The only one who has avoided it has been Brady. Supposedly, he supported Trump or something. He definitely has some shady characters around him. But he has won so many titles that the media can't mess with him. Plus, they spent so long building him up and I think Brady has dirt on all of them.

Rodgers doesn't have the titles and the pandemic became such a polarizing topic that folks like them went all in on that Rodgers simply had to be punished.

Guys like Cousins and Wentz not being vaccinated? No surprise there. But Rodgers?! And he misled us (though he was under no obligation to tell the media). Well, that simply won't do.

Hub Arkush is a sports reporter for the Chicago station that carries the Bears games and he’s the Bears sideline reporter. He had a national profile thru his own weekly paper called Pro Football Weekly which had been around forever but mostly died when the Internet arrived. Up to this year he also had a very low-budget discussion panel show with all his Chicago Bears buddies like Dave Wannstedt and Dan Hampton. I think he lost his Rum Chata sponsorship (they funded it) and the TV show didnt air this year.

I actually had a few lunches with Hub back in the day at the Blackhawk restaurant in Wheeling and kept in touch over the years but last time we talked was over email a season ago. He’s a good guy who loves the NFL and really loves the Bears but he’s just wrong in this case. Sure, he can set whatever standard he wants to set for his vote but this is pretty lame.

Even though I love Brandt, I respectfully disagree. I don't believe in groupthink when it comes to voting. I think all opinions should be heard. It's just like baseball's Hall of Fame voting with blank ballots. Those voters always are criticized and people want to take their ballot away but I respect their opinion that nobody on the ballot is Hall of Fame-worthy.

He was deceptive re his vax status, used horse de-wormer, and consulted with Joe Rogan for medical advice.

He’s a giant ****ing moron who thinks he’s smarter than us. Shocker that people don’t like him now.

Anakin Skywalker, except he betrayed the Dark side and has better lines than you underestimate my powa. ;)

You're the one who's posting the shit, dude lol

Now I have to know.. what, specifically, happened this year that made you like Rodgers even more? Is it the fact that he powned the libs by refusing the COVID vax? The offseason drama about wanting out of GB? His marriage to Shailene Woodley?

I like the Shailene Woodley thing personally.

Assuming he’s not gay, I bet they bang a lot of hot chicks together.

I am fine with no groupthink but what does the writer's take have to do with on the field play?

Paul Zimmerman never voted for Stabler because Stabler slept with his woman. That was crude behavior but it had nothing to do with his play on the field.

Is Rodgers an arrogant jerk? It is very likely. But that shouldn't be why you don't vote for him.

He didn't tell the media. He doesn't have to tell them. They don't need to know. Now if he lied to his team that is different.

He definitely thinks he is smarter than the average bear. I don't particularly care for his demeanor.

Would you trade Carr for Rodgers?

He was deceptive about his vaccination status to avoid the blowback. He should have just owned up to it when initially asked.

No. Because I don't want to deal with the paperwork regarding a name change.

Why? It is no one's business except his own and the team.

I’d burn a guy to the ground if he ****ed my woman behind my back.

He should have said so then.

When asked if he was vaccinated, he said "Yeah, I was immunized" or something like that. Based on the different ways to interpret that statement, he either outright lied or was purposely deceptive to avoid fallout.

Either way, it was a dumb move.

This dumbshit should have his MVP voting privileges revoked by the NFL.

Rodgers will win back to back MVP’s without Arkush’s vote.


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This. Don't underestimate how mad people, the media mostly, are over this.

Hubcap’s Wikipedia page has been updated…

Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub_Arkush

Was the question asked in the first place?

There was no reason for it outside of the media trying to be the vaccine police.

FIFY

We have 24 hour sports coverage. The NFL is the most popular sports league in the country. COVID is highly controversial and has a huge impact on the NFL season.

You'd have to be naïve to believe that journalists have "no reason" to ask.

If you feel it's Rodger's right to keep that info under wraps, then that's one thing. I don't care either way, but again, he should have said so if that's the way he felt instead of being purposely deceptive because he didn't want to deal with the push back.

With how the NFL COVID protocol was to begin the year, it was a pretty big deal if the 2nd best QB in the league wasn't vaccinated and had to miss a game just because of a close contact with an infected player.

That seems pretty news worthy to me and the media had every right to ask it. All he had to do was say no comment, but instead he made up some bogus ass excuse.

Still deserves the MVP though.

This guy is a Bears reporter. It all makes sense now LMAO

Out of curiosity, is it legitimate to not vote for a guy for the Hall of Fame if he's a jerk?

In that case, I can see an argument for it. If a guy is jerk in the locker room, he's got less value to the team. (I see Terrell Owens over there glaring at me.) Or if a guy is a jerk in a way that damages the sport, he's not a good ambassador for football. (I see john elway drunkenly glaring at me.) But I think it's valid to withhold your Hall of Fame vote if a guy's off-field behavior tarnishes the sport.

For MVP I think it's a little different. A guy can still be MVP even if he's a jerk. But I don't know why I view them so differently. Maybe it's because the Hall of Fame is more big-picture in nature, whereas MVP is a very tactical look at what happened on the field.

Pete Rose also deserves to be in the Hall of Fame with an asterisk.

I care about how a guy performs on the field, not off of it.

Lot's of assholes out there including LeBron but you can't take away how great they were/are on the field.

If they want to start awards for nicest guy or most liked, go for it.

Doesn't the Walter Payton NFL man of the year award kinda take care of this?