Bills fan Kyle Brandt caught flip-flopping in 4k
 

First, Kyle's opinion this week, after his Bills lost:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is my overtime solution. Wish the Chiefs had it a few years back, too. <a href="https://t.co/y57IYWX65C">pic.twitter.com/y57IYWX65C</a></p>&mdash; Kyle Brandt (@KyleBrandt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleBrandt/status/1485967719413567491?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


But he didn't always feel that way. Here he is in 2019, when KC proposed the rule change after losing to the Patriots in the same way:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This you? <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleBrandt?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KyleBrandt</a> <a href="https://t.co/XIEk4TDZKU">https://t.co/XIEk4TDZKU</a> <a href="https://t.co/84UIryReAo">pic.twitter.com/84UIryReAo</a></p>&mdash; Remy Lekneau (@ajp1128) <a href="https://twitter.com/ajp1128/status/1485999013908426756?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Awesome

I mean, guys can change their minds if they want.

Yikes.

Yeah, but if you do it only when it negatively impacts the team you root for, it makes you a hypocrite.

It's the flip-flopping because of the losing team involved that's hypocritical.

:facepalm:

It’s pretty obvious what changed his mind in this case.

Somebody really needs to publicly shove this up his ass.

Sure. Happens all the time. But if you change your mind because your team lost…then your opinion is invalid.

The very last part of the 2019 video is what's damning.

"If you let a them go on a 80 yard drive to score a touchdown, YOU LOSE! I'm sorry!"

****ing clown.

LMAO

These guys are teenage girls.

LMAO - He's a Bills fan, that's why he changed his mind!LMAO

The media is losing on a golden opportunity to just embrace how great of a game that was. The two best qbs went head to head in a heavyweight belt boxing match. Delivered punch after punch. All they can talk about is the OT rules. Give me a break.

If you had listened further, he didn't like the Chiefs solution either - he's a proponent of a 10 minute quarter. So he hated the Chiefs solution then...and hates the current system now. He's made way too big a deal of this, but he's not really backing off what he has said previously.

Seems strange the one from a few years ago cuts off at 27 seconds... it would be nice to get the entire clip.

It's not like he said he's opposed to a 10 minute OT a few years ago, he was opposed to both teams being guaranteed one possession.... and then in the recent clip, said he would change it to a 10 minute OT and you play the full 10 minutes no matter what.

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Yep, that's the dagger quote.

Doesn't matter. He didn't want any changes in 2018. He only wants a change now because his favorite team got ****ed by a coin toss like we did in 2018.

It's funny how the narrative changed when Brady was on the winning side... "play better defense... don't line up offsides... win a coin flip..."

The OT rules should be changed. I’ve thought this ever since it happened to Mahomes in 2018 against Brady.

If Josh Allen won that coin flip our season would be over. That’s the truth.

Both teams should touch the ball. It’s a huge advantage for offenses in that scenario bc not only is the game changed to favor offense, but both defenses are gassed. They’re dead tired.

Keep the rules the same except the team that lost the coin flip gets a chance to get a TD if the team that won the coin flip gets a TD first

That is not correct. He did not want the particular change that the Chiefs were proposing. To suggest anything more is to put words in his mouth. I also get tired of his Bills mafia stuff, but you have to be intellectually honest on this stuff.

Except that wasn't his logic in the 2019 AFCCG when the Chiefs lost in OT.

Fair - but I've always been against these rules. Funny now how Chiefs fans now DONT want the rule to change.

Both teams should get to possess the ball in overtime, period. Don't do it like college does, but you can make teams start further away and always go for two.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Play better defense. Don’t cry about the rules.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1485455670329720832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I really haven't seen anyone oppose a rule change.

We are throwing all the bullshit arguments back in the media's face.

He's a Bills fan first and Patriots apologist?

I get a sense that this is not the majority of Chiefs fans' opinion.

Furthermore, it shouldn't be - we have Mahomes, so it behooves us to guarantee him a possession.

His mouth produced the words clearly indicating that he thought if one team let the other drive 80 yards to score a TD, the former deserved to lose.

We all know in our hearts that if they change the rule the Chiefs will take advantage of it in a big game.

The same bitches will be crying about the new rules because they are bitches.

I’m not saying don’t change the rules. Change them if you want. But if you weren’t complaining with us back when it happened in 2018…then don’t ****ing complain now.

His words exactly just a few short years ago......

Absolutely. I am in favor of changing the rules. We have Mahomes. I don't want a coin flip to keep the ball out of his hands.

That's why I'd like to see the entire clip.... in 27 seconds, it seems like he's only arguing what's being asked, which seems to be guaranteeing one possession each. In this week's clip, he's proposing his own solution.

There is the "if you don't want to lose, don't let them get on base" in the baseball analogy though, as a lead in to his proposed 10 minute OT.... missed that the first time, which is a direct contradiction to post-Patriots game.

So let’s say Buffalo gets a chance and gets a TD.

Then the Chiefs get the ball and get another TD.

Is that game over?

Are we not right back where we started? It’s not fair because Buffalo didn’t get a chance again?

It’s absurd. The OT rules are fine, and I wasn’t somebody complaining back in 2018 either.

The rules are the way they are because of injuries. The longer the game, the more the likelihood of serious injuries.

This is where I'm at. If there is a better overtime solution, I'm all for it.

But Christ, I don't ever remember this much blowback about these specific overtime rules. Tom Brady has benefitted from them in both an AFCCG and a Super Bowl, and there wasn't this much blowback.

Why now? Are Mahomes and the Chiefs already hated that much?

Shawn Barber's idea is that in case of a tie, the higher seed moves on. I SORT of like it?

You make them go for two, and a turnover loses the game if the other team gets at least a FG.

Haha he was on the radio sounding all doom and gloom and expressed how much he hated to OT rule! Now it effects his team and he wants it changed. What a clown!

what if the team is able to run out the clock and score on the first drive do they add more time n the clock?

I think Kyle has a place in Politics!

He NEVER said "deserved" - that's you putting words in his mouth, like I said. He simply stated "you lose. I'm sorry." Is there something beyond the ending of the clip that indicates he believes that loss is deserved and that he approves of the rule? If so, produce it. He could have said all kinds of things related to "I'm sorry". This smacks of a convenient video edit. If he goes on to say "I'm sorry...you shouldn't let the offense score a TD", you totally have a case to make on his hypocrisy. Until then, it's based on a weirdly edited video

Ah, I did not know he was a legit Bills fan. Carry on.

If it doesn't get changed after the Tebow miracle in OT against the Steelers in 2012 you are not going to find a better argument.

I don't necessarily love/hate the sudden death aspect, but would much rather HFA determine who gets the ball first in OT... use something that's already been earned, not a freakin coin.

And go one way or the other... not the "score a TD and the game is over, but not over with a FG". I don't like changing rules for OT. Either do sudden death, guarantee one possession each, or do a 10 or 15 minute period.

I'd prefer the timed period for the playoffs, but would be fine with simply guaranteeing one possession each and sudden death after that.

Do you understand tone and inflection at all?

I don't know what the rest of that clip says, but his statement there is fairly straightforward. He didn't use the word 'deserve', but that is absolutely what he was implying.

Look at the record of a team the following week if they have to play in overtime.

Now require that it goes an entire extra period.

This is one of the few sound argument against changing the rules.

I thought he was a Bears fan like Kay

That sounds absolutely moronic to me.

Guarantee none of this is even an issue if the Chiefs opposing QB in OT in this instance were like a Baker Mayfield, Tannehill, Drew Lock. Then it would be "well, they should've stopped Mahomes in OT"


it's only an issue because fans want to see some sort of Shoot out in an extra period between 2 stud QBs; against a phase of an opposing team who is likely cashed/exhausted anyway.

OT rules are fine the way they are. Even with what Brandt proposes by adding an entire period.....you'll still have blowback when a team like the Titans wins the toss, and goes on an 8+ minute drive; then people will bitch that the opposing team didn't have much of a chance. OR, they'll say "well, they should've played better defense if they wanted the ball with more time on the clock".

....which is the exact same reason why the OT rules are fine as they are. Bills only had to force a FG to get the ball back and they didn't get it done.



It's just the media doing media things. Creating an 'issue' or topic to discuss ad nauseam
for days upon days on all their debate shows.

I think we should change the rules to a 100-yard dash with one designated player per team, and I will advocate for that as long as we have Tyreek Hill on the roster.

He's definitely not not a fan


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you so much for having me. �� <a href="https://t.co/VMLtdYCAlf">https://t.co/VMLtdYCAlf</a></p>&mdash; Kyle Brandt (@KyleBrandt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleBrandt/status/1483479692774678530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sorry, that was supposed to be the lower seed. Basically, the team hosting the game. He was equating it to boxing/MMA. If a match for the belt ends in a draw, does the champ lose the belt? No. You have to beat the champ. The draw doesn't give you the belt and a draw should not let you move on if you're the higher seeded team.

Wasn't this the dude wearing a Titans shirt last week, doing a segment on how they're the most disrespected #1 seed ever?

Keep going until either:

A. One team doesn’t answer with a TD and can be eliminated bc the opposing team gets a TD.

B. Time runs out

The players playing longer doesn’t matter. It’s OT. Win the game. It’s not like the NFL isn’t adding more games to the regular season anyway. At this rate we’ll have 20 regular season games by 2030.

I wish that made me change my mind on what I think about his idea :)

Reminder that both teams that had a bye week lost last weekend

Here's another solution to shut up whiners about the rule. You lost the coin toss? Don't trust your defense?

Then do an onside kick.

Seriously. What does it matter at that point if your defense is going to get gashed like a hot knife through butter? Play to hold them to a field goal. The yards and length of the field the offense has to drive doesn't matter at that point if you're going to whine about people telling you to play better defense.

I don't think we've seen a single team ever use this strategy since these became the new OT rules. If your defense is trash, then do a fake kickoff, try to catch them off guard, and try to grab the W yourself.

Good luck getting a defensive stop in that scenario. Neither one of those defenses was going to get a stop in that game.

You'd be good if the Chiefs had to play the equivalent of 2 or 3 overtime periods this week, and then go on to the Bengals next week (who already have an extra day's rest)?

I’ll just stop you right there. At what point is player health a concern?

The Chiefs deserved to lose in 2018. Buffalo deserved to lose Sunday.

The OT rules are fine the way they are. If Buffalo simply holds KC to a FG, they have a chance to go get the TD for the win.

You don’t even have to force the other team to punt. Simply hold them to a FG and you get your chance.

Buffalo deserves zero sympathy. Buffalo voted against KC’s idea to change the rule a few years ago.

I hate sharing a real name with this dude.

I'm changing my last name....

You can call me Kyle Mahomes

And yeah, if we're in an OT situation where our defense truly is utter trash and we're just going to end up getting ****ed in the end, I'd like to see Andy Reid employ that strategy.

We've done okay in goal line stand situations this year. That's probably our best chance at victory if we lose the toss. And if the opposing team scored and won the game, I'd at least appreciate that we tried to take the matter into our own hands instead of just whining about losing by a coin toss because we were incompetent on defense.

1. Each team gets one possession.
2. Touchdown beats field goal, field goal beats yards gained, if no one scores, the team that gets the most yardage wins.
3. The two possessions are played simutaneously with 44 players on the field. Anyone can run, block, tackle, or catch for any unit.

Good thing we played the #1 defense, otherwise people would really be bitching.

Rules is Rules. Tell it to Dee Ford.

You used to collect ants and put them in a jar with water and just a few twigs as a kid, didn't you.

this is the best idea of the whole lot. hfa would really be an advantage then.

The coin toss winner still probably benefits though. Is it sudden death after both teams score the TD?

In terms of the defense being out of gas, Buffalo gave up a ton of miracle 3rd down conversions by Mahomes in the first half. They were not tired at this point of the game, he just beat them with awesome playmaking. Heck, KC kicker even gave Buffalo a 4 point boost in regulation. Every play matters, but people seem to obsess about the final minutes of the game.

So? Just Australian rules football?

These overtime rule changes are so poorly thought out.

Im so sick of hearing this. It's STILL not fair. All you're doing is extending the game.

Ok, so Mahomes get the ball and scores. Great.

Then Allen gets the ball and scores. Great.

NOW what? Now the next score wins? NOW the defense matters? So Mahomes gets the ball after Allen scores, goes down the field and scores. Can the game be over now, or does Allen still get another chance to make it fair?

At what point do we acknoweldge that a stop has to be made? And if a stop HAS to be made, then wtf is the point of extending it at all? Just so Allen can score one more touchdown and still lose the exact same ****ing way when Mahomes gets the ball back?

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Ok, how about this for not fair:

Team 1 goes down and scores and elects to kick the XP.

Team 2 now has a HUGE advantage, as they can now elect for a 2pnt conversion and win the game outright.

In a situation in which both teams are guaranteed a possession, there's a very clear strategic advantage to receiving the ball 2nd.

Team 1 has to decide if they should kick the XP or go for two. If they go for 1, team 2 has a decided advantage over team 1 in their next possession as they KNOW they can win with a 2pt, while team 1 risks either losing by NOT going for 2, or going for 2, missing and then losing to team 2 who now only needs to kick an XP to win.

That's such a massive advantage to the team with the 2nd possession it's not even funny. Much bigger advantage than just winning a coin flip

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And here's the real kicker:

In the playoffs, only 20% of the teams that receive the ball in OT are actually winning them on the first possession.

20% you dolts!

20%!


For that math illiterate, 80-mother****ing percent of the time BOTH QB'S ARE touching the ball under current rules.

80-mother****ing percent of the time both offenses get a chance in OT. Jesus.

This isn't even a real issue! LMAO It's a completely false narrative drummed up by pouty bitch ass losers. It's not even a real ****ing problem in the NFL for christ's sake.

Leave it to skill
 

How about each team gets to pick their own "Pickup sticks with your butt cheeks" contestant?

I don't know, the rule is the rule for a reason and if your defense can't hold the team who won the coin toss to at least a field goal then they deserve to lose giving up a TD.;)

It sucked when it was against the Patriots. But I still don't want to change it.

It is never going to be fair. If we open up to 1 and 1 rule. It is still next team to score.

Go a full qtr and tied? Next team to score or another qtr?

I just don't understand why people think it's a guarantee TD on the first possession of OT. It's not and data proves it if you don't cherry pick. The Bills don't get an imaginary pretend TD drive fir a hypothetical coin toss loss just like KC in 19. Bills lost legitly end of story

Imagine this back and forth or extra periods and a star qb gets a major injury.

You realize that there is an NFLPA, right? And contractual time obligations, right?

Like, games can't just go on forever. There's a reason sudden death was put in place in the first place.

Yeah, go ask the NFLPA how they'd feel about adding additional quarters to a game.

20%, man.

Teams who receive the 1st possession score a TD on the opening drive only 20% of the time.

It's a NON-ISSUE.