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Dante84 01-25-2022 12:04 PM

Chiefs Ryan Poles to Bears as GM
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bears are finalizing a deal to hire Chiefs’ Assistant Director of Player Personnel Ryan Poles as their next general manager, per league sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1486036931939024899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> will receive a third round compensatory pick in each of the next two drafts for losing Poles. He was also a finalist in Minnesota and the Giants. <a href="https://t.co/qzsMBOcMas">https://t.co/qzsMBOcMas</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1486037557246898177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

siberian khatru 01-25-2022 12:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bears are finalizing a deal to hire Chiefs’ Assistant Director of Player Personnel Ryan Poles as their next general manager, per league sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1486036931939024899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 01-25-2022 12:04 PM

Gimme that 3rd round pick baby!

BWillie 01-25-2022 12:05 PM

TWO THIRD ROUND DRAFT PICKS MO FOS

PEW PEW PEW

Old Dog 01-25-2022 12:06 PM

Veach: Gimme da picks

MahomesMagic 01-25-2022 12:06 PM

Congrats Ryan.

Hopefully we make good use of these picks.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 12:06 PM

Awwww yeeeeeuhhhhhh

TLO 01-25-2022 12:07 PM

Poles for Picks.

PBJ

The Franchise 01-25-2022 12:07 PM

Take Bienemy with you.

Dante84 01-25-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16106245)
Take Bienemy with you.

NEXT YEAR, so we get two more 3rds instead of one more. Kafka can simmer on the back burner for just one more year, no?

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2022 12:14 PM

Damn. Kind of hoping the Vikings got him. Doubt Bears are interested in Bieniemy after Nagy failed so spectacularly

KC Hawks 01-25-2022 12:14 PM

Bears fans are upset because his name is Ryan P, therefore he's like their last GM.

htismaqe 01-25-2022 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16106257)
NEXT YEAR, so we get two more 3rds instead of one more. Kafka can simmer on the back burner for just one more year, no?

Gotta think it's now or never for EB. If he doesn't get a coaching job this year, there's definitely something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.

staylor26 01-25-2022 12:16 PM

Hell yea! 4 picks in the top 100 or so.

nychief 01-25-2022 12:16 PM

He should hire Matt Nagy.

Rainbarrel 01-25-2022 12:17 PM

There was some speculation of Kafka being offered an OC job. Not unreasonable

Pitt Gorilla 01-25-2022 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16106257)
NEXT YEAR, so we get two more 3rds instead of one more. Kafka can simmer on the back burner for just one more year, no?

Is that how it works? Interesting.

BWillie 01-25-2022 12:18 PM

If EB gets a job, we get two MORE 3rd round picks too?

DRM08 01-25-2022 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16106257)
NEXT YEAR, so we get two more 3rds instead of one more. Kafka can simmer on the back burner for just one more year, no?

What if EB goes somewhere this year other than Chicago? Does KC get the extra draft pick in this scenario?

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2022 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16106279)
If EB gets a job, we get two MORE 3rd round picks too?

No. 1 more.

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2022 12:21 PM

Jim Caldwell in the building interviewing for HC.

wachashi 01-25-2022 12:21 PM

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/exc.gif

staylor26 01-25-2022 12:21 PM

Hell yea! 4 picks in the top 100 or so.

notorious 01-25-2022 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16106288)
Jim Caldwell in the building interviewing for HC.

It's downright criminal how Detroit treated him.

Caldwell is a good coach.

kccrow 01-25-2022 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16106279)
If EB gets a job, we get two MORE 3rd round picks too?

Not if they both get hired in the same offseason. When that happens its just 3 consecutive years of one.

htismaqe 01-25-2022 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16106288)
Jim Caldwell in the building interviewing for HC.

That would be a low-key pretty good hire. Caldwell is a solid coach. Nobody wins in Detroit.

DJ's left nut 01-25-2022 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16106233)
Gimme that 3rd round pick baby!

I'll take BOTH of 'em.

chiefzilla1501 01-25-2022 12:23 PM

It’s a great hire for them. Although I wonder how bears fans feel about it. Between Phil emery then Nagy, the chiefs tree hasn’t worked out so well for them. But this one feels way different.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 12:24 PM

Where has EB interviewed this offseason again?

I know Denver (lol knowmo) but I don't remember the others?

This is... looking kind of troubling. Particularly if Caldwell is already in the building before this announcement has even become official news. Makes me think Poles presented Caldwell as his first choice during the interview.

staylor26 01-25-2022 12:25 PM

It can’t be understated how big it is to have an extra 3rd the next two years.

Whether they’re lottery tickets at the end of day 2, ammo for a trade up or a trade for a player, they will give us flexibility with our next 2 drafts.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16106281)
What if EB goes somewhere this year other than Chicago? Does KC get the extra draft pick in this scenario?

Nope. Only if it's next year.

htismaqe 01-25-2022 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16106297)
Where has EB interviewed this offseason again?

I know Denver (lol knowmo) but I don't remember the others?

This is... looking kind of troubling. Particularly if Caldwell is already in the building before this announcement has even become official news. Makes me think Poles presented Caldwell as his first choice during the interview.

I know everybody thinks I'm a Debbie downer about it but I don't think EB is going to ever be a HC.

siberian khatru 01-25-2022 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16106297)
Where has EB interviewed this offseason again?

I know Denver (lol knowmo) but I don't remember the others?

This is... looking kind of troubling. Particularly if Caldwell is already in the building before this announcement has even become official news. Makes me think Poles presented Caldwell as his first choice during the interview.

Or what if he mentioned EB as one of his top choices and they shot it down?

Either way, not good for EB.

Direckshun 01-25-2022 12:29 PM

This is a big, big deal. The Chiefs have either the fewest or second-fewest number of players under contract for next season. And while we're not tight against the cap, we're going to have to do some massaging to get the roster the way we want it.

This gives the Chiefs four picks, now, in the top 100. We have needs at WR, and all over the DL and secondary. This will go a long way to getting this roster the way we want it and hopefully hosting a 5th consecutive AFCCG.

Buehler445 01-25-2022 12:30 PM

Nice. I didn't really expect they'd go back to the Chiefs well after firing Nagy.

jettio 01-25-2022 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16106291)
It's downright criminal how Detroit treated him.

Caldwell is a good coach.

I agree. I think he gets undervalued because of his demeanor on the sidelines.

Colts we’re still good until Manning is hurt and season is tanked to get Luck. The Ravens run the table to Super Bowl after he replaces OC in midseason, the Lions make playoffs 2 of his years.

I remember years ago, he turned Wake Forest into a bowl team after they had been long time losers.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16106305)
I know everybody thinks I'm a Debbie downer about it but I don't think EB is going to ever be a HC.


What the hell do we do, then? We can’t let our young position coaches just kind of sit there and rot

chiefzilla1501 01-25-2022 12:32 PM

I really doubt Poles will go with EB. Not after the Nagy experiment.

Given his tree I really wonder if he goes defense. He’s got two intriguing options in eberflus (Ballard) or Jonathan Gannon (eagles). May not be a bad idea for a bears team whos identity right now revolves around defense.

The Franchise 01-25-2022 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16106327)
What the hell do we do, then? We can’t let our young position coaches just kind of sit there and rot

Push his ass back to the college ranks.

RunKC 01-25-2022 12:34 PM

Sweet! More draft ammo.

On a serious note I’ll always remember this guy from the night we drafted Patrick. He was making sure the card was turned in.

htismaqe 01-25-2022 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16106327)
What the hell do we do, then? We can’t let our young position coaches just kind of sit there and rot

I honestly don't know.

Cosmos 01-25-2022 12:37 PM

Not sure how I would feel, if Kafka left before Bienemy…

MahomesKnows 01-25-2022 12:38 PM

I think EB is better suited for college than the NFL. If he doesn't get one this year, I wonder if he'll start looking at college. If he's successful there, maybe he could move back to the pros.

ChiefBlueCFC 01-25-2022 12:40 PM

aye lemme get those comp picks

mkp785 01-25-2022 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16106334)
Push his ass back to the college ranks.

You can't force him to take a job and he hasn't been offered one yet anyways

rabblerouser 01-25-2022 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16106267)
Gotta think it's now or never for EB. If he doesn't get a coaching job this year, there's definitely something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.

I think we DO know why he doesn't get job offers...

Sassy Squatch 01-25-2022 12:46 PM

FTR, Caldwell was brought in on recommendation of the search committee the Bears put together, or at least that's what Bears fans believe. May not be Poles first choice.

ptlyon 01-25-2022 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16106336)
Sweet! More draft ammo.

On a serious note I’ll always remember this guy from the night we drafted Patrick. He was making sure the card was turned in.

Solid. Didn't fax it.

kysirsoze 01-25-2022 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16106329)
I really doubt Poles will go with EB. Not after the Nagy experiment.

Given his tree I really wonder if he goes defense. He’s got two intriguing options in eberflus (Ballard) or Jonathan Gannon (eagles). May not be a bad idea for a bears team whos identity right now revolves around defense.

That's exactly why he should be looking for someone offensively minded. That team needs someone to develop Fields or find someone else. A defensive coach will most likely squander what promise they have.

dlphg9 01-25-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 16106308)
Or what if he mentioned EB as one of his top choices and they shot it down?

Either way, not good for EB.

I'm thinking if he was already shot down before he was hired, then he'd tell them to **** off and wouldn't want to be micromanaged.

Coochie liquor 01-25-2022 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16106297)
Where has EB interviewed this offseason again?

I know Denver (lol knowmo) but I don't remember the others?

This is... looking kind of troubling. Particularly if Caldwell is already in the building before this announcement has even become official news. Makes me think Poles presented Caldwell as his first choice during the interview.

Or maybe Chicago ownership told Poles they didn’t want another KC OC as HC??

mkp785 01-25-2022 12:57 PM

With Payton stepping down maybe there's a possible EB spot. That's like 8 jobs available, if he doesn't get 1 of these he might never get one....

Coochie liquor 01-25-2022 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 16106344)
Not sure how I would feel, if Kafka left before Bienemy…

Yeah, I’m really looking forward to seeing Kafka’s spin on the offense, since he’s probably one of the people who know him best.

chiefzilla1501 01-25-2022 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 16106378)
That's exactly why he should be looking for someone offensively minded. That team needs someone to develop Fields or find someone else. A defensive coach will most likely squander what promise they have.

Not sure how much I buy that. I don’t know that fields will be a qb you revolve your offense around. And the bears were a few years removed from an insane defense. Josh Allen and justin Herbert have thrived under defensive head coaches with excellent offensive coaching staffs. You just need to hire a great offensive coordinator. I’d argue that many OCs also squander good qbs because they’re too stubborn to give up playcalling.

DJ's left nut 01-25-2022 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16106329)
I really doubt Poles will go with EB. Not after the Nagy experiment.

Given his tree I really wonder if he goes defense. He’s got two intriguing options in eberflus (Ballard) or Jonathan Gannon (eagles). May not be a bad idea for a bears team whos identity right now revolves around defense.

Gotta bring in someone that can make something out of Fields. And that’s not a turnkey job by any means.

The Bears have more young talent than people realize - this team CAN be good. But he’s gotta get this hire right.

BossChief 01-25-2022 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16106305)
I know everybody thinks I'm a Debbie downer about it but I don't think EB is going to ever be a HC.

His coaching style isn’t for everyone.

I think his best shot is either Chicago or Minnesota. If he doesn’t get one of those jobs, I can’t see a great fit elsewhere. He’s great with running backs, but I'm not sure how his yell and curse style will fit with a team looking to nurture a new QB and to orchestrate a high flying offense with built in counter punches.

staylor26 01-25-2022 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16106432)
Not sure how much I buy that. I don’t know that fields will be a qb you revolve your offense around. And the bears were a few years removed from an insane defense. Josh Allen and justin Herbert have thrived under defensive head coaches with excellent offensive coaching staffs. You just need to hire a great offensive coordinator. I’d argue that many OCs also squander good qbs because they’re too stubborn to give up playcalling.

And when you have success, that OC gets a HC job, and you’re back to square one…

Hoover 01-25-2022 01:04 PM

I'd Hire DaBol (SP?) for HC. I think Allen and Fields could be similar.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16106444)
His coaching style isn’t for everyone.

I think his best shot is either Chicago or Minnesota. If he doesn’t get one of those jobs, I can’t see a great fit elsewhere. He’s great with running backs, but I'm not sure how his yell and curse style will fit with a team looking to nurture a new QB and to orchestrate a high flying offense with built in counter punches.

All kinds of coaches with all kinds of personalities have success in the NFL. From gruff assholes like Belichick to loose and upbeat like Sean McVay to nerdy mad scientist types like Brandon Staley (well... kinda... in theory, anyway). Obviously those are broad and perhaps unfair generalizations that overlook all of the many things that make great coaches successful, but the point is that coaching style shouldn't be an issue for why someone is or is not great. Because you can make just about any coaching style work as long as you're good.

Hoover 01-25-2022 01:45 PM

I think Byron Leftwich will get a job.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16106446)
And when you have success, that OC gets a HC job, and you’re back to square one…

"Well, then you just hire another great one!"

It's another reason why I'm kind of glad we have Spags. Nobody is probably going to touch him as a head coach. He's here basically until he gets fired by us. Or retires, I suppose. And that may happen sooner than we think. He's only one year younger than Andy Reid.

KChiefs1 01-25-2022 01:47 PM

Please hire Bieniemy!


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KChiefs1 01-25-2022 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16106291)
It's downright criminal how Detroit treated him.

Caldwell is a good coach.


He’d be a great hire for the Bears.


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KChiefs1 01-25-2022 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16106305)
I know everybody thinks I'm a Debbie downer about it but I don't think EB is going to ever be a HC.


I don’t either. I wonder if the Chiefs could kick him upstairs & promote Kafka.


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Sassy Squatch 01-25-2022 02:01 PM

LMAO Apparently he's already told the McCaskeys to **** off and let him do his job with hiring the coach.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16106586)
LMAO Apparently he's already told the McCaskeys to **** off and let him do his job with hiring the coach.

I assume that's partly the reason why they hired him. Otherwise this is going be one hella short GM stint.

smithandrew051 01-25-2022 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16106305)
I know everybody thinks I'm a Debbie downer about it but I don't think EB is going to ever be a HC.

If not this year, then I can’t imagine it happening.

staylor26 01-25-2022 02:08 PM

One other reason this is a good thing, just like Kafka/EB, I’m sure there’s somebody deserving of a promotion in our FO.

staylor26 01-25-2022 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16106552)
I think Byron Leftwich will get a job.

All signs point to him being the favorite in Jacksonville.

smithandrew051 01-25-2022 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16106603)
One other reason this is a good thing, just like Kafka/EB, I’m sure there’s somebody deserving of a promotion in our FO.

I was actually curious about this.

Apparently, Ryne Nutt is currently in Ryan Poles’s previous position as Senior Director of College Scouting. So maybe he’s next in line?

Seems like it’s either him or Tim Terry (senior director of pro personnel).

RealSNR 01-25-2022 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16106643)
I was actually curious about this.

Apparently, Ryne Nutt is currently in Ryan Poles’s previous position as Senior Director of College Scouting. So maybe he’s next in line?

Seems like it’s either him or Tim Terry (senior director of pro personnel).

I mean... best man for the job and all... but I really hope it's Tim Terry

smithandrew051 01-25-2022 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16106650)
I mean... best man for the job and all... but I really hope it's Tim Terry

I’m all about the Nutt. Because we bust nuts on the field.

ChiefsFan123456 01-25-2022 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16106557)
Please hire Bieniemy!


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It is very doubtful that Bears will hire Bieniemy

ChiefsFan123456 01-25-2022 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16106260)
Damn. Kind of hoping the Vikings got him. Doubt Bears are interested in Bieniemy after Nagy failed so spectacularly

Even if Vikings got Poles, I doubt Vikings will hire Bieniemy because I think Vikings do not want to bring a former Vikings coach back to the organization

ChiefsCountry 01-25-2022 03:04 PM

So when do we all sign up on a Bears message board and defend every move he makes it and that they are below the Chief Way.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16106787)
So when do we all sign up on a Bears message board and defend every move he makes it and that they are below the Chief Way.

Lol.

God, I know next to nothing about Poles. Maybe I saw a post-draft interview with him on chiefs.com once?

How Pats fans can be so militant about us trying to plant their seed is beyond me.

"What do you mean you don't like the guy who used to work for us????!!! Are you just stupid or something?!"

I've never once felt the need to defend Nagy, Peterson, or any Andy Reid hire to any other fan base.

louie aguiar 01-25-2022 03:13 PM

Good for Ryan Poles. I don’t know much about him but I’m glad he’s getting an opportunity. I’m not sold on Fields and I don’t think they have a first round pick this year. It’s probably going to be a while before the bears are legitimate contenders again.

Imon Yourside 01-25-2022 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16106787)
So when do we all sign up on a Bears message board and defend every move he makes it and that they are below the Chief Way.

Play good football!

BlackOp 01-25-2022 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16106443)
Gotta bring in someone that can make something out of Fields. And that’s not a turnkey job by any means.

Daboll?

saphojunkie 01-25-2022 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16106298)
It can’t be understated how big it is to have an extra 3rd the next two years.

Whether they’re lottery tickets at the end of day 2, ammo for a trade up or a trade for a player, they will give us flexibility with our next 2 drafts.

more young, cheap talent makes keeping HB easier.


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