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RunKC 01-25-2022 11:10 PM

Byron Leftwich expected to be Jags new coach
 
I think this is a good move

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can confirm, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> expected to hire Buccaneers OC Byron Leftwich as their next head coach, per multiple sources. <a href="https://twitter.com/E_Dilla?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@E_Dilla</a> was on it first.</p>&mdash; Demetrius Harvey (@Demetrius82) <a href="https://twitter.com/Demetrius82/status/1486190967468314624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-25-2022 11:13 PM

Damn, this a solid move for the Jags. He’s coming home too!

Megatron96 01-25-2022 11:19 PM

I liked Byron as a player and now as a coach, but I think this is a mistake. I believe that situation is just doomed to fail without a personality that has done this type of thing before. Jim Harbaugh would top the list. Byron just doesn't strike me as the same type of coaching personality.

Hoover 01-25-2022 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16107769)
I liked Byron as a player and now as a coach, but I think this is a mistake. I believe that situation is just doomed to fail without a personality that has done this type of thing before. Jim Harbaugh would top the list. Byron just doesn't strike me as the same type of coaching personality.

I totally disagree.

I think Leftwich is perfect, he not only fits the organization, but he's a young offensive minded coach who understands players. Look, this team needs to be out of the headlines and just start building something. They have all the parts to be successful IMO.

RealSNR 01-25-2022 11:27 PM

The owner seems to think one of Jacksonville's own is the only way he can have a successful team. Urban and now Leftwich.

Whatever. I'm a Minnesota Timberwolves fan, and they do this kind of stupid shit all the time with Minnesota guys and Minnesota coaches. Flip Saunders (RIP) got a ridiculous second chance at total GM/head coach power all because they were just like, "Look... the past is all we got."

It could work out, or it could be another failure. Then what do the Jags have? Another Tom Coughlin episode?

carcosa 01-25-2022 11:33 PM

I think this is definitely worth a try for the Jags. Obviously makes sense from a marketing perspective, and Trevor Lawrence would probably benefit from having a former NFL QB as a mentor. Being a head coach in the NFL is ****in hard so the odds may be against him, but if I were a Jags fan, I'd be pretty excited and optimistic.

Mecca 01-25-2022 11:33 PM

Looks like he's all elite...

DaFace 01-25-2022 11:39 PM

I like Byron. Hope he's successful.

chiefzilla1501 01-25-2022 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16107769)
I liked Byron as a player and now as a coach, but I think this is a mistake. I believe that situation is just doomed to fail without a personality that has done this type of thing before. Jim Harbaugh would top the list. Byron just doesn't strike me as the same type of coaching personality.

I don’t think the jags are nearly as bad as they played. Urban Meyer and his staff were just that bad. They actually have some talent especially if you can get sunshine to play better. Which I’d have to imagine he will.

carcosa 01-25-2022 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16107783)
I like Byron. Hope he's successful.

He seems very nice, to me!!

Titty Meat 01-26-2022 12:11 AM

Won't matter if his GM is shit and the owner too

Jamie 01-26-2022 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16107778)
Obviously makes sense from a marketing perspective

Is there really much positive feeling for Leftwich in Jacksonville? He was top 10 pick bust for them. I guess in that sense it's a nice redemption narrative, but I think if I was a Jaguars fan, I'd be wary.

Reroka 01-26-2022 01:36 AM

Congrats. I hope you do well.

Nickhead 01-26-2022 01:38 AM

everyone is gonna jump ship from tampa this year. :thumb:

eDave 01-26-2022 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 16107812)
Is there really much positive feeling for Leftwich in Jacksonville? He was top 10 pick bust for them. I guess in that sense it's a nice redemption narrative, but I think if I was a Jaguars fan, I'd be wary.

I had no idea he was even on the HC map. A bit surprising to me.

And another thing; Brittany needs to stop responding to the haters.

ChiefGator 01-26-2022 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 16107864)
And another thing; Brittany needs to stop responding to the haters.

Oh, I totally missed that. It was described as a 'champagne incident' on some site. Just love the name... I need more 'champage incidents' in my life I think.

Sassy Squatch 01-26-2022 06:18 AM

Lol, Baalke is still there. That team is ****ED

scho63 01-26-2022 08:13 AM

Good hire

The Franchise 01-26-2022 08:18 AM

Called it a while ago. It seemed to be the obvious hire.

Danguardace 01-26-2022 08:22 AM

If ****s like Brandon Staley get jobs with no experience or pedigree I see no problem with this hire.

ChiefsFan123456 01-26-2022 08:25 AM

I do not know why Bryon would want to go that dumpster fire but if Byron improves the Jaguars then I will be impressed

Wisconsin_Chief 01-26-2022 08:29 AM

Honestly, this is the perfect choice for them from both an organizational and marketing perspective.

Good luck to him.

Curé 01-26-2022 08:43 AM

i'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but i hope he fails miserably. i hope he makes the urban regime look like the good old days. the last thing we need in the afc is another successful team with a stud young qb. no thanks. that game sunday was awesome, but i'd much prefer chiefs blowouts on the regular, thank you, as we coast to two easy home wins on our way to the sb every year.

Deberg_1990 01-26-2022 08:46 AM

Bring in Jack Del Rio on staff and get the band back together?

ChiefsFan123456 01-26-2022 10:13 AM

Schefter said Jaguars are still talking with Leftwich and Eberflus and among others but are not close to a deal with anyone at this time

Rainbarrel 01-26-2022 10:18 AM

The Chiefs brought in a couple of Jags' Leftwich clone QBs(or was Leftwich a clone, don't recall). Anyway will there be Leftwich as HC clones?

Gary Cooper 01-26-2022 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 16107812)
Is there really much positive feeling for Leftwich in Jacksonville? He was top 10 pick bust for them. I guess in that sense it's a nice redemption narrative, but I think if I was a Jaguars fan, I'd be wary.

Not as bad as the Raiders hiring Jamarcus Russell as their coach.

Coochie liquor 01-26-2022 11:05 AM

Seems the Jags hire to fill seats, not necessarily to win games. What has Leftwich done that didn’t involve Brady’s all star team that makes him a good hire?

staylor26 01-26-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16107924)
Lol, Baalke is still there. That team is ****ED

That’s the biggest takeaway.

If he’s still there doesn’t really matter who they hire.

Demonpenz 01-26-2022 11:41 AM

hopefully his tenure is as long as his windup

tredadda 01-26-2022 12:20 PM

The key to Leftwich being successful or not will be the staff he builds and whether Trevor lives up to his draft status. I do think this is a pretty good hire for Jacksonville.

carcosa 01-26-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 16107812)
Is there really much positive feeling for Leftwich in Jacksonville? He was top 10 pick bust for them. I guess in that sense it's a nice redemption narrative, but I think if I was a Jaguars fan, I'd be wary.

He was good for the Jaguars when he was healthy and made a playoff appearance. His career was just derailed by injuries.

Megatron96 01-26-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16107772)
I totally disagree.

I think Leftwich is perfect, he not only fits the organization, but he's a young offensive minded coach who understands players. Look, this team needs to be out of the headlines and just start building something. They have all the parts to be successful IMO.

You might be right. Particularly about the extra attention bringing harbaugh in would incite. I didn’t consider that when I posted.

The biggest advantage I see in harbaugh is that he already has a solid blueprint for how to build up a team from the ground up. Byron would have to figure it out for the first time.

But if Byron does get the job I wish him all the best.

Sassy Squatch 01-27-2022 08:40 AM

Smart man.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source tells me that Byron Leftwich is the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#jaguars</a> pick but the hold up is over who will have control of the roster. Leftwich wants Trent Baalke out and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> to hire Adrian Wilson who is the Vice President of pro scouting with Cardinals. <a href="https://t.co/TBlgdwaMEk">https://t.co/TBlgdwaMEk</a></p>&mdash; Chris Porter (@ChrisPorterFCN) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisPorterFCN/status/1486683370327351302?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Spott 01-27-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16110394)
Smart man.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source tells me that Byron Leftwich is the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#jaguars</a> pick but the hold up is over who will have control of the roster. Leftwich wants Trent Baalke out and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> to hire Adrian Wilson who is the Vice President of pro scouting with Cardinals. <a href="https://t.co/TBlgdwaMEk">https://t.co/TBlgdwaMEk</a></p>&mdash; Chris Porter (@ChrisPorterFCN) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisPorterFCN/status/1486683370327351302?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably not a bad idea. That team has a history of just signing and drafting local players to appease all the SEC/FSU fans in the area.

Sassy Squatch 01-27-2022 10:31 AM

Sounds like they're about to hire Leftwich/Wilson. He'll be a hero regardless just getting rid of Baalke

The Franchise 01-27-2022 10:32 AM

Leftwich is smarter than I thought he was. The Jags might actually get good again.

The Franchise 01-27-2022 10:36 AM

Oh God.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When the Jaguars private plane was in Denver on Monday, it wasn&#39;t there to take Nathaniel Hackett to Jacksonville for an interview; it was there to pick up former Broncos HC Vic Fangio, who has interviewed for Jaguars&#39; HC job, per league sources. Fangio is a candidate for Jaguars</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1486733341848129536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MahomesMagic 01-27-2022 10:37 AM

Problem is Trevor is limited but if he runs a modern/efficient offense can use Lawrence's strengths and hide his weaknesses.

staylor26 01-27-2022 10:38 AM

The thing is, Byron wants Adrian Wilson to be the GM, but the guy is REALLY green.

I’m not so sure this alternative is that much better. Inexperienced HC and GM taking over an absolute mess?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

Sassy Squatch 01-27-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16110787)
The thing is, Byron wants Adrian Wilson to be the GM, but the guy is REALLY green.

I’m not so sure this alternative is that much better. Inexperienced HC and GM taking over an absolute mess?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

Already had a known disaster in Baalke. At least now it's a clue unknowns.

staylor26 01-27-2022 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16110791)
Already had a known disaster in Baalke. At least now it's a clue unknowns.

I get that, but I also don’t think it’s a situation to be overly excited/optimistic about either.

Deberg_1990 01-27-2022 11:31 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Saints have requested permission to interview Buccaneers OC Byron Leftwich for their head coaching job, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1486751124707332105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 01-27-2022 07:16 PM

So not only would the Jags probably be looking at a first time HC and GM, the top candidate for the DC job sounds like it would be Larry Foote, who was still playing just a few years ago.

Rookie GM, HC, and DC on the worst team in the NFL?

Again, that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Bump 01-27-2022 07:18 PM

I thought he was going to be a really good QB back when he played, it didn't really work out and for what reason I forget. But it's pretty cool he's rising up the coaching ranks so fast.

Chiefshrink 01-27-2022 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16112106)
I thought he was going to be a really good QB back when he played, it didn't really work out and for what reason I forget. But it's pretty cool he's rising up the coaching ranks so fast.

Just like Manning schooled Gase here in Denver, Brady has schooled Leftwich I assure you.

BWillie 01-28-2022 05:15 AM

I would laugh my ass off if they hirer Vic Fangio instead

Deberg_1990 01-28-2022 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16112106)
I thought he was going to be a really good QB back when he played, it didn't really work out and for what reason I forget. But it's pretty cool he's rising up the coaching ranks so fast.

He had his moments but was inconsistent and hurt a lot if I remember right? He also had a slow windup release.

The Franchise 02-03-2022 02:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing at Senior Bowl the chatter is Byron Leftwich made a mistake that he made it known that he couldn&#39;t work with Trent Baalke when the question was presented to him. He suggested the Jaguars should hire his guy Adrian Wilson as GM.</p>&mdash; John Reid (@JohnReid64) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnReid64/status/1489336227828535299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably the best move by Leftwich.

Insane to me that the Jags are going to stick with Baalke and then went and hired Spielman to work over Baalke.

chiefzilla1501 02-03-2022 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16129305)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing at Senior Bowl the chatter is Byron Leftwich made a mistake that he made it known that he couldn&#39;t work with Trent Baalke when the question was presented to him. He suggested the Jaguars should hire his guy Adrian Wilson as GM.</p>&mdash; John Reid (@JohnReid64) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnReid64/status/1489336227828535299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably the best move by Leftwich.

Insane to me that the Jags are going to stick with Baalke and then went and hired Spielman to work over Baalke.

I’m surprised they didn’t hire Cousin Larry to work over Baalke

loochy 02-03-2022 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16129348)
I’m surprised they didn’t hire Cousin Larry to work over Baalke


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ChiefsFan123456 02-03-2022 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16129305)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing at Senior Bowl the chatter is Byron Leftwich made a mistake that he made it known that he couldn&#39;t work with Trent Baalke when the question was presented to him. He suggested the Jaguars should hire his guy Adrian Wilson as GM.</p>&mdash; John Reid (@JohnReid64) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnReid64/status/1489336227828535299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably the best move by Leftwich.

Insane to me that the Jags are going to stick with Baalke and then went and hired Spielman to work over Baalke.

Good move by Leftwich, do you mean Jaguars hired Rick Speilman from the Vikings?

The Franchise 02-03-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan123456 (Post 16129461)
Good move by Leftwich, do you mean Jaguars hired Rick Speilman from the Vikings?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gmfb</a>: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> continue to work toward adding former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings</a> GM Rick Spielman to their front office. Sources tell us at <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> progress has been made, though nothing is done yet. Doug Pederson remains in the mix for the HC job. <a href="https://t.co/g43SCSLzTZ">pic.twitter.com/g43SCSLzTZ</a></p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1489228931119132674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 02-03-2022 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan123456 (Post 16129461)
Good move by Leftwich, do you mean Jaguars hired Rick Speilman from the Vikings?

There should be no crying about Leftwich not getting a HC opportunity this offseason.

By all accounts he was Jacksonville’s first choice and he effectively turned them down.

Yes Baalke is difficult to work with, but that isn’t stopping the likes of Doug Pederson… a Super Bowl winning HC… from continuing to pursue the Jacksonville HC job.

The Franchise 02-03-2022 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129496)
There should be no crying about Leftwich not getting a HC opportunity this offseason.

By all accounts he was Jacksonville’s first choice and he effectively turned them down.

Yes Baalke is difficult to work with, but that isn’t stopping the likes of Doug Pederson… a Super Bowl winning HC… from continuing to pursue the Jacksonville HC job.

Why would he want a HC job with someone who could stunt his success? By all means…this could be his only opportunity at a HC job.

FloridaMan88 02-03-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16129501)
Why would he want a HC job with someone who could stunt his success? By all means…this could be his only opportunity at a HC job.

None of these openings are perfect situations to step into (which is why these teams are looking for a new HC in the first place).

Do we keep qualifying the opportunities that are being offered or not offered to Leftwich, Flores, etc. to push a narrative?

The Franchise 02-03-2022 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129509)
None of these openings are perfect situations to step into (which is why these teams are looking for a new HC in the first place).

Do we keep qualifying the opportunities that are being offered or not offered to Leftwich, Flores, etc. to push a narrative?

I’m not arguing race on this matter.

I’m claiming that most HCs don’t have a ton of opportunities. I’m not going to fault Leftwich for not accepting this shit show just because it’s a job.

OnTheWarpath15 02-03-2022 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16129305)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing at Senior Bowl the chatter is Byron Leftwich made a mistake that he made it known that he couldn&#39;t work with Trent Baalke when the question was presented to him. He suggested the Jaguars should hire his guy Adrian Wilson as GM.</p>&mdash; John Reid (@JohnReid64) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnReid64/status/1489336227828535299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Probably the best move by Leftwich.

Insane to me that the Jags are going to stick with Baalke and then went and hired Spielman to work over Baalke.


Anyone else here willing to take a job that has you set up to fail from the word go?

Didn't think so.

staylor26 02-03-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16129599)
Anyone else here willing to take a job that has you set up to fail from the word go?

Didn't think so.

So it’s a good thing Culley and Flores were fired?

:D

Al Bundy 02-03-2022 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129509)
None of these openings are perfect situations to step into (which is why these teams are looking for a new HC in the first place).

Do we keep qualifying the opportunities that are being offered or not offered to Leftwich, Flores, etc. to push a narrative?

I do realize that not all of them are perfect to step in to. But THIS situation is the worst, period. Ballke is the shitty of the shittiest, Leftwich was smart to step on that mine field. The Jags were trying to set him up to fail.

FloridaMan88 02-03-2022 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 16129644)
I do realize that not all of them are perfect to step in to. But THIS situation is the worst, period. Ballke is the shitty of the shittiest, Leftwich was smart to step on that mine field. The Jags were trying to set him up to fail.

Trevor Lawrence, lots of salary cap room, the #1 overall pick... it is a better job than Houston, the Saints or the Dolphins.

None of these job openings are ideal situations.

kccrow 02-03-2022 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129648)
Trevor Lawrence, lots of salary cap room, the #1 overall pick... it is a better job than Houston, the Saints or the Dolphins.

None of these job openings are ideal situations.

Not if the GM is more likely than not to **** it up.

Salary cap situation or not, I'd take the Saints job if I had a chance at all 3.

FloridaMan88 02-03-2022 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16129693)
Not if the GM is more likely than not to **** it up.

Salary cap situation or not, I'd take the Saints job if I had a chance at all 3.

The Saints are $76 million over the salary cap, have no QB, no offensive weapons other than Kamara, their first round draft pick is outside of the top 10, etc.

ChiefsFan123456 02-03-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129703)
The Saints are $76 million over the salary cap, have no QB, no offensive weapons other than Kamara, their first round draft pick is outside of the top 10, etc.

Yup, Saints are a mess, I would not take Saints job, Dolphins and Texans are better jobs although that is not saying much though

ChiefsCountry 02-03-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129648)
Trevor Lawrence, lots of salary cap room, the #1 overall pick... it is a better job than Houston, the Saints or the Dolphins.

None of these job openings are ideal situations.

If you are a proven head coach like Doug Pederson, Jacksonville is a very appealing job. Lawrence plus the number one pick and a very shitty division.

Al Bundy 02-03-2022 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129648)
Trevor Lawrence, lots of salary cap room, the #1 overall pick... it is a better job than Houston, the Saints or the Dolphins.

None of these job openings are ideal situations.

Baalke makes it worse.

kccrow 02-03-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16129703)
The Saints are $76 million over the salary cap, have no QB, no offensive weapons other than Kamara, their first round draft pick is outside of the top 10, etc.

The first year is a bit treacherous but I think you make these moves:

Cut RB Mark Ingram, S Malcolm Jenkins, S J.T. Gray, CB Bradley Roby, DE Tanoh Kpassagnon,

Restructure QB Taysom Hill, OG Andrus Peat, OT Ryan Ramczyk, CB Marshon Lattimore, WR Michael Thomas

Trade RB Alvin Kamara, DE Marcus Davenport

Puts you at about $15 million in space after signing ERFAs.
Run it tight up to $0 and fill in with low-priced FAs wherever you can.

Cut June 1 DE Cameron Jordan

Adds $15 million in space post June 1 so you can sign the draft class, pick up a couple late FAs and have money for the season.


Leaves you about $40 m under next year with only OC Eric McCoy and WR Marquez Calloway (RFA) as bigger tickets to re-sign.

They can be fine, but its going to be some work to get 5 guys restructured (could trade Lattimore but that's epic stupid).

Miles 02-03-2022 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16129599)
Anyone else here willing to take a job that has you set up to fail from the word go?

Didn't think so.

Well if you get paid enough when it fails. Culley got 22m for his 1 year in Houston.

DJ's left nut 02-03-2022 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16129735)
The first year is a bit treacherous but I think you make these moves:

Cut RB Mark Ingram, S Malcolm Jenkins, S J.T. Gray, CB Bradley Roby, DE Tanoh Kpassagnon,

Restructure QB Taysom Hill, OG Andrus Peat, OT Ryan Ramczyk, CB Marshon Lattimore, WR Michael Thomas

Trade RB Alvin Kamara, DE Marcus Davenport

Puts you at about $15 million in space after signing ERFAs.
Run it tight up to $0 and fill in with low-priced FAs wherever you can.

Cut June 1 DE Cameron Jordan

Adds $15 million in space post June 1 so you can sign the draft class, pick up a couple late FAs and have money for the season.


Leaves you about $40 m under next year with only OC Eric McCoy and WR Marquez Calloway (RFA) as bigger tickets to re-sign.

They can be fine, but its going to be some work to get 5 guys restructured (could trade Lattimore but that's epic stupid).

Yeah, no matter how bad your cap hell is, you’re always one year of eating shit away from clearing most of it out amd starting fresh.

ChiefsFan123456 02-03-2022 09:29 PM

Pederson is the Jaguars new coach, that is a good hire for them

kccrow 02-04-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16129860)
Yeah, no matter how bad your cap hell is, you’re always one year of eating shit away from clearing most of it out amd starting fresh.

Yep... too bad a couple of those contracts in the "restructure" group are really ones that never should have happened to begin with. Taysom Hill and Andrus Peat were just bad moves that are difficult to step away from now.

Baby Lee 02-04-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16107763)
Byron Leftwich expected to be Jags new coach

Still work, now as past tense grammar.

FloridaMan88 02-04-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16129735)
Trade RB Alvin Kamara

Kamara in the Chiefs offense would be the ultimate 8 man coverage killer.

Mosbonian 02-05-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 16129727)
Baalke makes it worse.

I am guessing that Baalke is just filling a gap for right now until Spielman is signed as an EVP and then summarily fires him.

Honestly, Leftwich had a perfect opportunity to go to a place where he had Trevor Lawrence, several good draft picks and lots of cap room. He could win 4 games here in J-ville and he would still be considered king. It's a win-win for him and Baalke would probably be gone anyway.

He overplayed his hand....and now will be stuck with Houston, New Orleans or Miami. Houston is probably the best option there.....New Orleans is deep in a hole due to cap situations....Miami is stuck with Tua.

As I said in another thread....would be funny if Leftwich is left at the altar this year when he could have come to the Jags and (with patience) had a perfect situation.

raybec 4 02-05-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16131887)
I am guessing that Baalke is just filling a gap for right now until Spielman is signed as an EVP and then summarily fires him.

Honestly, Leftwich had a perfect opportunity to go to a place where he had Trevor Lawrence, several good draft picks and lots of cap room. He could win 4 games here in J-ville and he would still be considered king. It's a win-win for him and Baalke would probably be gone anyway.

He overplayed his hand....and now will be stuck with Houston, New Orleans or Miami. Houston is probably the best option there.....New Orleans is deep in a hole due to cap situations....Miami is stuck with Tua.

As I said in another thread....would be funny if Leftwich is left at the altar this year when he could have come to the Jags and (with patience) had a perfect situation.

If I were Leftwich I wouldn't gamble my first HC opportunity on the hope and a prayer that Baalke gets fired and the next guy still wants to retain the coach. That's a bold strategy Cotton.

The Franchise 02-05-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16131887)
I am guessing that Baalke is just filling a gap for right now until Spielman is signed as an EVP and then summarily fires him.

Honestly, Leftwich had a perfect opportunity to go to a place where he had Trevor Lawrence, several good draft picks and lots of cap room. He could win 4 games here in J-ville and he would still be considered king. It's a win-win for him and Baalke would probably be gone anyway.

He overplayed his hand....and now will be stuck with Houston, New Orleans or Miami. Houston is probably the best option there.....New Orleans is deep in a hole due to cap situations....Miami is stuck with Tua.

As I said in another thread....would be funny if Leftwich is left at the altar this year when he could have come to the Jags and (with patience) had a perfect situation.

Or he can stay where he is, possibly take over Tampa Bay after this next season (if Arians hangs it up)….OR have a shot next year.

Why the **** would you take the HC job with a garbage GM when it might be your only shot at a HC job?

DJ's left nut 02-05-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16131350)
Yep... too bad a couple of those contracts in the "restructure" group are really ones that never should have happened to begin with. Taysom Hill and Andrus Peat were just bad moves that are difficult to step away from now.

And hell, if you identify the right guys to restructure, you don't even really need a roster re-set in that re-set season.

I mean the Rams cap looked like shit and they had a real problem on their hands with Gurley. They just bit the bullet, shuffled some money out, got waxed for a year on the cap and then hit the ground running again the following season.

Takes a nimble cap manager and some willing players, but it can be done.

Mosbonian 02-05-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16131948)
Or he can stay where he is, possibly take over Tampa Bay after this next season (if Arians hangs it up)….OR have a shot next year.

Why the **** would you take the HC job with a garbage GM when it might be your only shot at a HC job?

Or in that year his stock can go down with a garbage/bargain QB that can't do what Brady did and the offense looks mediocre......then others would say his success was tied to Brady.

It's perception whether or not it is reality.

The Franchise 02-05-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16131980)
Or in that year his stock can go down with a garbage/bargain QB that can't do what Brady did and the offense looks mediocre......then others would say his success was tied to Brady.

It's perception whether or not it is reality.

He had Jameis Winston throwing 30+ TDs.

Mosbonian 02-05-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16131987)
He had Jameis Winston throwing 30+ TDs.

And just as many interceptions....


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