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Ron Swanson 01-30-2022 06:36 PM

One sack
 
Yes, Mahomes was awful in the 2nd half, but we've got a lot of money tied up in that defensive line. Pretty bad performance against a joke of an o line.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-30-2022 06:39 PM

And it came from a late season acquisition. Jones, Clark and Reed should be ashamed.

Chiefspants 01-30-2022 06:40 PM

Jones had to bring Burrow down in the two opportunities he had. Those were game swinging misses.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-30-2022 06:40 PM

Did you Expect something different they weren’t getting sacks in the regular season

DRM08 01-30-2022 06:41 PM

Jones still has 0 sacks in the playoffs. Clark is a $25M black hole of wasted money. Nowhere near enough pass rush against these guys in 2 games each: Burrow, Allen, Herbert.

Baby Lee 01-30-2022 06:41 PM

What difference does defense make?

crayzkirk 01-30-2022 06:41 PM

Same thing happened in the first game against the Bengals; their bottom tier offensive line had little trouble protecting Burrow from our expensive defensive line. Even worse was twice Jones had Burrow sacked and let him get away for critical 3rd down conversions. This team has a lot of expensive veteran players that seem to disappear at times.

ping2000 01-30-2022 06:43 PM

**** Frank "gun runner" Clark in the ass. Bye worthless ****.

scho63 01-30-2022 06:46 PM

Burrow had a pretty clean jersey.

Really poor that he got sacked 9 times last week and we got one.

FringeNC 01-30-2022 06:46 PM

Yes, obviously some housecleaning is in order on the d-line.

Peter Gibbons 01-30-2022 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 16119854)
This team has a lot of expensive veteran players that seem to disappear at times.

I am not saying flying a banner is appropriate, but I’d chip in some cash to put a few pics on milk cartons. Too soon to joke about it? For me, the levity helps.

scho63 01-30-2022 06:47 PM

Burrow had a pretty clean jersey.

Really poor that he got sacked 9 times last week and we got one.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-30-2022 06:48 PM

Ingram needs to be re-signed, Reed and Clark can’t be off this team fast enough. Utterly useless tits.

Gary Cooper 01-30-2022 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16119896)
Ingram needs to be re-signed, Reed and Clark can’t be off this team fast enough. Utterly useless tits.

I feel bad for Ingram. Dude hasn't played in a SB. He played his heart out. Too bad the other linemen didn't bring it.

KChiefs1 01-30-2022 06:50 PM

I know I’m sick of watching Chris Jones lose his grip on Burrow. Work on that grip strength dude.


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comochiefsfan 01-30-2022 06:51 PM

Definitely needed more pressure.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-30-2022 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 16119900)
I feel bad for Ingram. Dude hasn't played in a SB. He played his heart out. Too bad the other linemen didn't bring it.

Jones was at least bringing it too, he just whiffed too many times.

Frank Clark needs to just clean out his locker tonight and never come near the building again.

lcarus 01-30-2022 06:54 PM

We lost this game on offense but still made some pretty ugly plays on defense. Chris Jones inability to finish sacks mirrors the Chiefs ability to finish opponents.

As great as the team is at coming back from deficits they're just as good at blowing leads. Whether they're making a big comeback or blowing a sizable lead, they're not playing their best football for 4 quarters.

Chief Northman 01-30-2022 06:56 PM

Jones is the new D Bowe.

All hype, no execution. He was ass.

CatfishBob2 01-30-2022 07:14 PM

No slander should go Jones way. Tell me why our scheme had just him chasing Burrow and no one else even close....no wonder he was gassed

Chris Meck 01-30-2022 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16120012)
No slander should go Jones way. Tell me why our scheme had just him chasing Burrow and no one else even close....no wonder he was gassed

scheme? nah.

It's just nobody but Jones and Ingram could ever win their one-on-ones.

CatfishBob2 01-30-2022 08:23 PM

The OL vs DL match up favored us by far yet Cincy made adjustments in the second half and got sacks on Pat while Chris Jones was still the one chasing Burrow around........by his damn self smh

Hammock Parties 01-30-2022 08:25 PM

Burrow played like a goddamn superhero.

Coochie liquor 01-30-2022 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16120407)
The OL vs DL match up favored us by far yet Cincy made adjustments in the second half and got sacks on Pat while Chris Jones was still the one chasing Burrow around........by his damn self smh

Yep, rushing 3. Our awesome OL looked like shit in the second half, just like the rest of our offense. Bengals had 1 legit threat in their DL, and handled our awesome OL like a bunch of bitches. 3 brokedicks making our 5 awesome OL look like turds.

Coochie liquor 01-30-2022 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16120414)
Burrow played like a goddamn superhero.

Yeah, because our defense can make Hurts look like Montana. 27th ranked defense doing 27th ranked defense things.

Rain Man 01-30-2022 08:34 PM

On paper the front seven is great. I can't figure out why the pass rush completely disappears on a frequent basis. I think a pass rusher or receiver is our biggest priority in the offseason.

TEX 01-30-2022 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson (Post 16119824)
Yes, Mahomes was awful in the 2nd half, but we've got a lot of money tied up in that defensive line. Pretty bad performance against a joke of an o line.

Yep. One sack. Easily could have had 4.Make any one of them and the drive is not extended.

FringeNC 01-30-2022 08:38 PM

Ingram being so much better than anyone but Jones given he was cast off as trash from Pittsburgh suggests that improving the D-line shouldn't be too hard.

TEX 01-30-2022 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16120446)
Yeah, because our defense can make Hurts look like Montana. 27th ranked defense doing 27th ranked defense things.

Exactly.

CatfishBob2 01-30-2022 08:41 PM

I think the diffence is how we rushed versus how they rushed. We left Burrow gaping holes to escape to-all game. In the second half they had someone in the spot Mahomes was escaping to. Which is probably why he looked so bad
That's coaching

Titty Meat 01-30-2022 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 16119935)
Jones is the new D Bowe.

All hype, no execution. He was ass.

This place has lost its mind. Chris Jones was amazing in that super bowl against the 49ers and is a **** hair away from being the best interior defensive lineman in the game

CatfishBob2 01-30-2022 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16120414)
Burrow played like a goddamn superhero.

He's going to look extra extra ordinary against the Rams.

Ron Swanson 01-30-2022 08:45 PM

Aaron Donald is going to kill Burrow.

Megatron96 01-30-2022 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16120516)
This place has lost its mind. Chris Jones was amazing in that super bowl against the 49ers and is a **** hair away from being the best interior defensive lineman in the game

I love Chris Jones as much as anyone, but the fact remains that in 9 playoff starts Chris has logged zero sacks, 9 PDs, just 9 tackles, and just 4 QB hits.

And while Chris did play the run reasonably well, he had Burrow in his sights, heck in his grasp multiple times today and failed to record a single sack, and just 3 tackles total. Now other defenders missed Burrow as well, but Jones had the most chances and Clark is paying him a metric ton of money to be that elite pass rusher first and foremost.

My point is that Chris needs to work on his technique. He's missing too many sacks when the guy is literally between his hands.

CatfishBob2 01-30-2022 09:23 PM

You have to give Burrow some credit for being elusive. And give Chris Jones some slack cause it seemed like he was the only one who could touch the mfer

kcclone 01-30-2022 09:25 PM

We have I think the 2nd most money tied up on the DL...


There are probably 15+ DL's that are more productive, and certainly more intimidating.

Spags' D's have been bipolar his whole career.

Even though the defense, isn't the only reason we lost today, I think you have to change the coordinator.

Ron Swanson 01-30-2022 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 16120729)
You have to give Burrow some credit for being elusive. And give Chris Jones some slack cause it seemed like he was the only one who could touch the mfer

I'd be more willing to give him credit if he hadn't been sacked NINE TIMES last week.

BryanBusby 01-30-2022 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16120723)
I love Chris Jones as much as anyone, but the fact remains that in 9 playoff starts Chris has logged zero sacks, 9 PDs, just 9 tackles, and just 4 QB hits.

I didn't think that was accurate but holy ****ing hell. It is. He's been to the playoffs every ****ing year of his career. How the ****?

I think that really highlights what is wrong. Your highest paid players on the Defense (and it's a lot) were mostly invisible when in a huge game.

PRIEST 01-30-2022 10:06 PM

Jones is too emotional gets beat out of plays and he is lazy

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-30-2022 10:08 PM

Despite having only 1 sack, Joe Burrow was 21-36 for 233 yards, 2 Tds and 1 pick in regulation. They scored 24 points, with one TDdrive being on a short field after the 1st turnover. We would have all taken that this morning, and would have expected to win by 2 TDS if this was box score for Burrow. The Defense played more than good enough, the offense needed to score more than 3 points in the 2nd half, period.

Megatron96 01-30-2022 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16120868)
Despite having only 1 sack, Joe Burrow was 21-36 for 233 yards, 2 Tds and 1 pick in regulation. They scored 24 points, with one TDdrive being on a short field after the 1st turnover. We would have all taken that this morning, and would have expected to win by 2 TDS if this was box score for Burrow. The Defense played more than good enough, the offense needed to score more than 3 points in the 2nd half, period.

All true. In spite of not being able to finish sacks the defense overall played more than well enough to win that game.

The offense on the other hand, spent their six 2nd-half drives doing this:

PUNT
PUNT
INT
PUNT
PUNT
FG

Flying High D 01-30-2022 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 16119866)
**** Frank "gun runner" Clark in the ass. Bye worthless ****.

He’s like a muscle car after 1973, all show no go.

BryanBusby 01-30-2022 10:29 PM

I think after scoring 42 the last 2 games it's ok for the Offense to be a bit off against great coverage.

Sometimes the Defense should actually earn their contracts in the playoffs?

Ron Swanson 01-30-2022 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16120901)
All true. In spite of not being able to finish sacks the defense overall played more than well enough to win that game.

The offense on the other hand, spent their six 2nd-half drives doing this:

PUNT
PUNT
INT
PUNT
PUNT
FG

True the offense was mainly to blame, but maybe the defense could win the game against a garbage o line.

Valiant 01-30-2022 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16120459)
On paper the front seven is great. I can't figure out why the pass rush completely disappears on a frequent basis. I think a pass rusher or receiver is our biggest priority in the offseason.

We don't hide anything.
No stunts.
No camouflage packaging

Chiefnj2 01-30-2022 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16120723)
I love Chris Jones as much as anyone, but the fact remains that in 9 playoff starts Chris has logged zero sacks, 9 PDs, just 9 tackles, and just 4 QB hits.

And while Chris did play the run reasonably well, he had Burrow in his sights, heck in his grasp multiple times today and failed to record a single sack, and just 3 tackles total. Now other defenders missed Burrow as well, but Jones had the most chances and Clark is paying him a metric ton of money to be that elite pass rusher first and foremost.

My point is that Chris needs to work on his technique. He's missing too many sacks when the guy is literally between his hands.

His batted balls helped win a SB. Where is the rest of the DL to clean up when he is getting pressure?

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-30-2022 11:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Through 11 career playoff games, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Chris Jones has zero sacks</p>&mdash; Aaron Ladd (@aaronladd0) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronladd0/status/1487977707287760898?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Flying High D 01-30-2022 11:05 PM

While he was playing catch and release with Burrows, I felt like I was getting kicked in the nut sack. Does that count as any kind of sack?

Megatron96 01-30-2022 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16120968)
His batted balls helped win a SB. Where is the rest of the DL to clean up when he is getting pressure?

:spock:
KC defense has recorded 20 postseason sacks since Spags became DC. Frank Clark leads the team with 8 sacks as a Chief. 8 playoff games, 8 sacks.

crazycoffey 01-30-2022 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson (Post 16119824)
Yes, Mahomes was awful in the 2nd half, but we've got a lot of money tied up in that defensive line. Pretty bad performance against a joke of an o line.

This



Bad D play today. But we should’ve run the ball more, they were daring us to.

crazycoffey 01-31-2022 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quitter (Post 16120974)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Through 11 career playoff games, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Chris Jones has zero sacks</p>&mdash; Aaron Ladd (@aaronladd0) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronladd0/status/1487977707287760898?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is a bad thing. He should post it on his locker if we keep him and get to the playoffs again

RunKC 01-31-2022 02:02 PM

Again for the people wanting to send Spags to the Sahara desert alone with half a bottle of water….the plan was not the problem. It was execution.

It’s not Spags fault the players didn’t bring Burrow down. He put them in a position to do so and they didn’t.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Burrow was under pressure on 40.5% of his dropbacks per PFF, but only took one sack. Per ESPN, Bengals only had a 45% PBWR on the day. Chiefs were able to create pressure without blitzing, sending an extra rusher on just 16.7% of Burrow’s dropbacks&quot;... Couldn&#39;t get him sacked�� <a href="https://t.co/frit6eNJoW">https://t.co/frit6eNJoW</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1488229742444789769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Red Dawg 01-31-2022 02:09 PM

100 mil per sack

KChiefs1 01-31-2022 02:26 PM

This loss is 100% on Mahomes.

Defense was good enough to win.


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