Did Joe Mixon fumble on his last run??
 

The fact that NY refused to review that is all you need to know.

He contacted a Chiefs player.

No. He was tripped by a Chief.

Doesn't look like he's touched. Is the slide considered giving himself up?

It does not look like a fumble to me but it does not matter anymore

Pretty sure it's one of those "the whistle blew the play is over yadda yadda" things.

If the ref calls the play dead, there's no amount of rulebook wizardry you can argue. They're not going to overturn that on a technicality

That angle is a bit deceiving, I think. It makes it tough to see if he made contact with a Chiefs player near the end of that play.

Yip

Curious

I keep telling you guys. He fell down and then threw the ball down. No Chiefs player tackled him.

LMAO you've gone full Taco John lately.

It doesn’t matter we put up 3 points in the second half and blew an 18 point lead there’s nothing that makes us deserving of a win so trying to call out some ref bs is just a moot point we were out played and out coached and didn’t deserve it

No offense but who cares anymore? Chiefs blew it and lost, please move on

I've thought the NFL was rigged since like 2002, I didn't pay close attention before that.

No fumble- a chiefs player touched him as he was going down

That was not a fumble. He was touched by a Chief plus they blew the play dead.

Ref told Andy that he "gave himself up"

Yeah I just listened to that.

We can still win this if New York will make them restart the game at that point. I'm not giving up.

This is silly.

No. He didn't fumble.

Was that what Andy was asking about? Broadcasters thought he was asking about challenging an illegal formation, but I thought he was saying he fumbled. Andy would know you can't challenge illegal formation.

I believe he did fumble. He tripped on his teamate's foot, not a Chief. The problem is that the refs said he "gave himself up" making it not reviewable. That is BS. He never gave up. The Chiefs lost this game on their own mostly to Mahomes playing like ass, but there were so many missed calls in this game that you have to wonder what the real goal of the refs was.

When I look at the replay, it looks like all the players stop like they heard a whistle. Mixon probably only did what he did with the ball because the ref blew the whistle. The ref thought he was tackled. If no whistle is blown, Mixon doesn’t drop the ball. That’s just the way the play looks to me. I’m trying to see if Mixon makes a statement, you know some reporters will ask him what happened on that play. But, if no whistle was blown before he drops the ball, it’s puzzling why so many players on offense and defense stopped suddenly. Everyone is taught to keep going until they hear the whistle.

Lol. How do I get notifications when people reply to me? Sorry I’m new

Let's not be Buffalo.

That should have been a fumble but THIS team did nothing to deserve being bailed out by the refs.

I agree with what you are saying, but when Reid questioned them, they didn't say a whistle was blown, they said he gave himself up. That is reviewable, but they wouldn't review it. If the refs blew it dead, they would have said that.

He pretty obviously gave himself up. He got up, dumped the ball and started celebrating. If ever a runner has "given themselves up", it would have to be here. Not a fumble.

Who cares?

Chiefs were up 21-3 and should have been up either 24-10 or 28-10 going into the half and then proceeded to shit down their leg in epic fashion.

It was like they were channeling the Atlanta Falcons from the Super Bowl a few years back. Just awful. They deserved to lose regardless of some stupid fumble/non-fumble on a technicality.

They blew it. End of story.

He was tripped up and fell to the ground, then jumped up assuming he'd been tackled. Where in the **** does giving himself up fall into that? Thinking you got tackled and then celebrating is not giving yourself up. Giving yourself up must be voluntary with no outside contact and in the normal field of play. That wasn't this. If he were touched by the Chiefs defender, it counts as down. That is unclear, which is why I said it wouldn't be overturned, but he DEFINITELY did not give himself up under any definition of the rule.

so stumbling down….STUMBLING….not sliding or diving is considered giving yourself up?

no matter, we blew it.

Played 1/2 of a 2 half game

I absolutely agree with this. We screwed ourselves, but the reffing in this game was very below par, on both sides.

No one has replied to you yet.

Wait, one person has.

Usually people will just call you an idiot.

It's two now. No, three.

I heard it was best to PM Bobdole?

I'm more mad about Hardman getting an obvious late hit out of bounds

I know you guys are joking around but I don’t see a little bubble indicating someone has quoted me like on other forums

I don't think we have such things here. We just show up a lot.

The official rulebook says none of what you think is included. Im not even sure of what the "normal field of play" would be, if this wasnt it.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...wn-by-contact/

An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

when a runner declares himself down by:
falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance.

He fell to the ground. He clearly made no immediate effort to advance, given he got up and tossed the ball in order to celebrate.

He was on the ground. He was either down by contact, or he was down by virtue of his "clearly making no immediate effort to advance."

Either way, he was down.

Any other game outside of the playoffs that's a fumble. I have no problem with them not calling it a fumble because they have been trying not to make controversial calls during the postseason.

That was plaxico burress 2.0 level fumble.

I think he fumbled. 70 CIN bumps into him which causes him to lose his balance and trip, and when he goes down 84 CIN falls over the top of him, and no Chief actually touches him up to that point. Then he gets up and throws the ball down. That should be a live ball.

Here’s a play where a player gives himself up, it’s not a playoff game, and it’s not a fumble.


http://youtu.be/89kmRdlY32g

Mixon's right arm was touched a Chiefs player before he went to the ground, so he was technically down by contact per the rules.

Struggle to see how KC has much right to complain about officiating after they benefitted from N'Keal Harry being ruled OOB during a regular season game against NE a couple years ago. Harry was not OOB, nor even close to being OOB. The official ruled Harry OOB, nullifying the ability for the play to be reviewed, taking 6-7 legitimate points off the board.

Haha. A troll Patriots fan crying about a regular season game a couple years ago. This should put things into perspective for us Chiefs fans about how far we’ve come with Mahomes. It’s the cherry on top to see how far the Pats have fallen in the same post. I know it’s been a long time, but your dumbass coach wasted his challenges in case you forgot. It was the beginning of a long string of failures for that old man. We love watching it unravel.

OOB OOB OOB OOB

If you're hanging your hat on this garbage, you know we sucked balls

Hell ya he fumbled. Refs saw what they were doing to Mahomes. Refs didn’t want no part of that ass whooping shit.

Mixon fumbled
 

He did fumble by throwing down the ball. He tripped on his own when he tried to make a cut. KC should have jumped on the ball. That would have forced a review

We did not play well enough to win the game... this play is NOT why we lost. But it also could easily have been called a fumble.

Let's look at it another way. Mixon quickly jumps up after stumbling down. If he had immediately run into the endzone instead of dropping the ball would the refs have "let the play continue" as they are taught to do and then go back and review?

My guess is if he runs into the endzone instead of dropping the ball, the refs would have let the play roll and it would be called a TD after review... so why not review it as a fumble? At least one chiefs player (the one who recovered the ball immediately) had enough sense to wonder if he wasn't down.

The runner gave himself up and didn't try to advance. The play was dead. Get over it.

Well, if you're going to bring the rulebook into it, that changes the whole discussion. Now I have to find something else to complain about.

I do think that rule must have changed at some point, though. I recall past plays where that was ruled a fumble.

agreed