Right Tackle?
 

The Chiefs have needs.... everywhere this offseason. Veach is going to be earning his paycheck.

WR, the entire DL, the entire secondary... it's a lot.

But what about the RT position? I feel like it's a bit forgotten in the mix.

Schwartz and Remmers aren't coming back due to debilitating back injuries. Wylie held down the position pretty decently but the Chiefs had to give him a lot of help to pull it off, and he's a free agent anyway.

What resources are you willing to throw at this position? Poll forthcoming.

They'll probably get somebody in free agency. Plus who knows what they want to do with Niang.

Bring back Wylie on a 1 year deal.
Draft a guy in the later rounds.

Camp battle.

Imagine we will bring Wylie back - or sign a similar vet tackle that can/has play left and right side. Depending on how they feel about Niang, if they still think he is the answer that might be all they do, but if they are uncertain about Niang then we might see them draft versatile lineman in the later rounds

Veach will find another draft gem...

You don't need to do too much. The solution is either on the roster or easily signable.

Does Trent Brown fit our OL Block Scheme?

Good ****ing lord no. Brokedick supreme.

Talk to me about what we're looking for at RT and what the difference is between OL schemes? I'm curious

Why not Kyle Long/ Niang?

They liked Kyle enough to keep him on the team all year. He has been training at the NFL level for over a year now.

He can play RT or G, Andy likes those kind of guys. He has played the RT position at the probowl level.

He wont break the bank and we dont create another hole for Veach.

I think you roll with Niang as your main option and sign a vet. There's always experienced guys floating around out there who end up signing for close to the minimum to get one last shot at a ring, like Dennis Kelly for the Packers this year.

Or we could just go all in and draft/sign a stud and have the best o-line in the league. Depends on what Bark Varch decides is the best route. They seem to really like Niang though so I'm betting on him getting first dibs.

Niang vs a mid-tier FA vet...best man wins

Yeah this is correct. Several options. One is bound to pan out.

If there is a premium RT that can also swing to LT if needed that would be optimum. We need flexible pieces, we can't have the fiasco we faced in the 2nd SB.

Pretty much. I don't feel it's necessary to invest a high round pick at this juncture. We saw what the OL was capable of with mediocre talent at RT and they were fine. With all our other needs, the most we should be doing is digging for a RT in the later rounds as insurance for Niang dying again and signing depth.

Look whats already invested in the OL.

Make it work with something cheap there.

I have a feeling that after a year off, Schwartz will be back. Finish his career with a relatively team friendly 3 year contract. He loves KC, doesn't want to move again because his kids are school age. Makes more sense than Kyle Long.

Yep that is my hot take as well. Would not be surprised at all. As far as Niang goes he may not be back this year as his injury is a bad one. I definitely go draft one if possible as protecting Pat is always priority #1

Schwartz is a vegetable eating string bean now. He gawn.

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You never know

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I give him a 5% chance of ever playing again, but if he does, I don't think he goes anywhere else.

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As for the thread, it's just not something I'm worried about. We have 3/5 studs on the OL plus 1 who is perfectly fine. Very few teams have that level of quality, so I'm fine with "adequate" at RT.

I admit it is mostly wishful thinking on my part but he hasn't filed retirement papers that I know of. Also he gets asked this alot on Social Media and never responds. I would think he is keeping the door open otherwise he would say IMVHO.

He responds once in a while, but it's basically just "I'll play again if my back is 100%, and so far it's not." Seems unlikely it would improve enough after rehabbing it for a year, but you never know.

Develop Niang. Sign a cheap veteran. Draft a late round high talent.

Cade Mays next to Trey Smith would be lovely.

Bring Wylie back as insurance at a minimum. I'd like to see them add Geron Christian who is a viable swing reserve that could compete to start at RT.

If they address the DL and S in a major way, I wouldn't mind seeing an early pick to get a guy that's a permanent solution though.

Honestly, Wylie did pretty well and should be brought back, if the price is right.

Otherwise, I've been a HUGE Trevor Penning fan for a couple of years now. Zero chance he lasts through the second round (and, honestly, he probably won't even be there when the Chiefs pick), but he'd be a MONSTER at RT. He played there when we had Spencer Brown at LT.

Actually, though, that first rounder should probably go to address more pressing needs.

Yeah, I think I'd wait on free agency plan for Niang, and see what's out there in the middle rounds of the draft. After the draft go sign one if you think you need too

The last thing I want to see the Chiefs do is go out early in Free Agency and spend 3-5m on a RT.

IMO Niang is out a year. Wiley can be a band aid, but a planned starter for an entire year? Yikes.

Again, though, if Penning is there at 30, you run the card up there and plug him in to start day 1 for 10 years.

I got as much playing time as Long and Prince whatever this year. The difference is I didn’t get a paycheck. Who do I see about this?

They clearly are not the answer when they couldn’t even beat out the players in front of them. Move on.

Wylie will most likely be resigned as depth for RG and RT.
Either resign Remmers or someone similar as insurance for Niang.

Have to look at entire offensive line -

Offensive linemen (10)
• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Free Agent) Contract Projection: 5 years, $105 million ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M)
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $17.8M. 2023 $18.9M, 2024 $19.4M, 2025 $19.4M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 27, 6-6, 310, (2022 Free Agent) Contract Projection 2 years, $6M.
• 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, (2022 Free Agent)
• 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent)
• 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract.
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K.
• Possible Free Agent Mitchell Schwartz, Age 32, 6-5, 320 - Not likely, but if Mitchell is able to return, he would be an option for KC.

Lucas Niang had a torn patellar tendon the first week of January. In best situations that takes at least 6 months and can take up to a year for recovery.

The Chiefs really need to plan for him not playing next season and hope that he can help them some next year.

They will try to re-sign Andrew Wylie, but as a backup that can play guard or RT.

There are several tackle options in the draft, and I hope they can get lucky like they did with Trey Smith.

Roderick Johnson and Prince Tega Wanogho will be given a look at RT.

Perhaps you're right but consider this, he may have lost the weight in order to heal his back and work on his flexibility. It wouldn't be too hard to put 30 lbs back on in time for the season and playing at a slightly lower weight could help him. He seems like he's open to playing again.

Remmers is cooked and Niang is a broke dick.

Don't guarantee Wylie will be back for cheap. The FA class is terrible once we lock up OBJ, so I wouldn't rule out a team overpaying for him.

It might make sense to target one in the draft, honestly.

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Replacing the “entire secondary “? WTF? LMAO

Niang is always injured and unproven. He shouldn't be in the mix any more than an undrafted free agent. Remmers and Schwartz could be surprise fixes for one year, but can't be the main plan.

Viable options:
FA Stud plus depth (Wiley is reliable but expensive swing depth)
Willey plus midround development.

Dependable depth across the OL is at least as important as RT#1 in my mind.

Niang was such a waste.


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Trezelle Jenkins is currently unsigned….

how've you been?

Been saying it for a couple months now - Wylie is a PERFECT candidate for the 4-year veterans exemption.

Under the 4-year qualifying player benefit, the Chiefs could offer Wylie a 1 year deal for $2.42 million and slightly less than half of that would count against the cap.

Now maybe he played his way into a better deal on the market - it's not impossible. But we'd have said the same thing about Reiter and that dude ended up bouncing on and off practice squads all year.

Offer it to him quick and see if he wants to spin the wheel and take his chances. Then find another Remmers/Blythe kind of under the radar veteran and hope that Niang makes the entire conversation moot by flat out earning the job.

I'd like to see Niang develop, but I wonder if he's not injury prone. I'd rather keep Remmers over Wylie and that dream of Long playing RT. I keep wondering what is the plan with the Prince. It seems they've slotted him to be a backup LT.

Given the injury he suffered, Niang is going to start the season on IR and may not play in 2022.

Niang is toast. Dude is injured all the time. He was injured his rookie year too, but took the year off for COVID correct?

Mitchell Schwartz would be awesome, but idk if he will ever feel good enough to play again. I love the guy. He's on 610 often and hes smart as hell. He really seems to love KC.

I'm done with "G than can play T" (aka Wylie). Long will never see the field again for any length of time. Go with Remmers at RT, hope Niang will be ready at some point in the season. If not, look for look for one of those Big 10 roadgrader dudes in the 5th or 6th. We don't need to draft WRs after the 2nd or 3rd round. We had 16, yes 16, of them in camp last year and still wound up with the same 6 plus Gordon. That should tell you something.

Zackly. Theyre not gonna admit to a mistake after one, err two years.

He’s probably frequently injured because of his conditioning. He’s not willie roaf. Very few tackles can look like this and play well and stay healthy.

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Pro athletes that don’t take care of their body get on my nerves. Compare Niang to trey smith. Massive legs and good build. He’s obviously working at taking care of himself and it shows up in his play and RT needs to be able to be more athletic than guard.

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If Rasheed Walker is available in the 3rd I'd have a hard time passing up on him. Let him sit behind a vet mentioned above for at least a year and may have a long term starter. Potential out the wazoo. </br></br> Plenty of potential still left in Trey Smith as well.

He looks much bigger with shoulder pads and a helmet on.

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So you're saying there's a chance? I think doctors gave Alex Smith less chance than that. I'm not worried about Swartz but would love him 'back' in good condition for depth but I think Wily can secure the position. I do want to draft a RT in later rounds.

I can see Swartz giving it the ol college try but mostly as a camp fodder.

Schwartz is done. He's going to bang his hot little wifey and enjoy the fact that he can walk without a cane when he's 50.

Dropping that weight is the best thing in the world for his back.

He's done.

Yeah, no way he's coming back. And why would he?

I mean you have to figure that the absolute best case scenario is Kyle Turley? And probably more like Kyle Long.

Still true today. Penning is a monster and would be incredible at 30. He's not the WR2 or Edge we might want, but he'd complete the line for years to come.

He's going to go 8-10 picks above us I would imagine, so it's moot. ;)

I was told by draft geniuses that he was a late second-rounder (at best), so we should be good late in the first!

Hell, Chief Fan would call him a "reach" at this point.

Well, I was one of those that thought he was a mid-2nd rounder but he's been rising up draft boards ever since.

He's literally the same player. I guess I don't understand the "rise."

I guarantee NFL scouts knew exactly who he was 1-2 years ago.

We're not usually privy to what NFL scouts think until after the combine. Before that, it's more about the talking heads and draftniks and what they think.

Most thought of him as a borderline LT prospect, which tends to drop stock. But this draft isn't deep at tackle - much more shallow than last year - so that's going to elevate him even if he hasn't changed.

Right, but that's what I've been saying. He's a first-round value. He's always been a first-round value and NFL guys have known that.

Hell, it's been obvious for a while. Makes me wonder what the "talking heads" are actually watching.

Probably not as much as you think, especially during the NFL regular season.

He was never going to make it.
A bust from the get go.


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Some weight added during the off-season and he should be good to go. 75-100 kilos out to do it. I recommend minimum 16 milkshakes 3 times a day.

This was his rookie year. He opted out for covid to rehab a hip injury from college. Now he has a patellar and likely wont play at all this year. I dont know that i would call him injury prone just yet, but he cant be counted on for next year.

He was out forever with his ribs too before the patellar.

He's absolutely injury-prone. I don't think he'll ever amount to much at all.

"Forever" a big ass guy who uses his core to engage other guys took awhile for ribs to heal. Wack.

The jury is out ereckshun take Niang off the options.

I wouldn't count on Niang for anything at this point. If he comes back and gives you snaps....consider it a benefit.

Now the real question will be.....does Wylie stay here or does he follow Kafka to the Giants considering all the offensive line help they need?

The sweet spot for the NFL Draft and the Chiefs needs at tackle, would be 3rd round to 4th rounds.

Rasheed Walker, Penn State, 6-6, 320

Kellen Diesch, Arizona State, 6-7, 300 - A little light, but has good footwork.

Bernhard Raimann, Central Michigan, 6-6, 304 - From Germany. Still learning the game.

Abraham Lucas, Washington State, 6-6, 332

Max Mitchell, Louisiana, 6-6, 297

Tyler Smith, Tulsa, 6-6, 332

Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, 6-7, 313

Braxton Jones, Southern Utah, 6-7. 310

Dare Rosenthal, Kentucky, 6-7, 327

Sean Rhyan, UCLA, 6-5, 320

Obinna Eze, TCU, 6-8, 334

Matt Waletzko, North Dakota, 6-7. 305

A later round pick for Chiefs would be Austin Deculus, LSU, 6-7, 325 - With Covid rules, played 5 years at RT for LSU.

Well, ****sticks. Just saw a mock that had Penning going #6(!) overall.

It's amazing how my hope of taking him at #30 overall has gone from a "reach" to "no way in hell he'll make it anywhere NEAR that far." I knew he'd rocket up the boards, but I never thought he'd go SIXTH.

You saw A mock. ONE. That doesn’t mean shit. I can find a mock that shows projected 3rd round players going in the 1st round. It doesn’t mean shit.