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Hammock Parties 02-25-2022 12:17 PM

Nagy returns
 
Our savior is here

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have hired Matt Nagy as Senior Assistant/Quarterbacks Coach.<br><br>📷: AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh <a href="https://t.co/QFTQQFJ21u">pic.twitter.com/QFTQQFJ21u</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1497274185617338371?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 02-25-2022 12:19 PM

It is complete.

Hoover 02-25-2022 12:20 PM

So the question is will Matt Nagy get another HC gig before EB?

htismaqe 02-25-2022 12:20 PM

The Chiefsifization of the Chiefs continues.

ChiefBlueCFC 02-25-2022 12:21 PM

Wooo

staylor26 02-25-2022 12:22 PM

He’s fine for that role.

The Franchise 02-25-2022 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16163998)
So the question is will Matt Nagy get another HC gig before EB?

Nagy is going to be the OC after this season.

tyton75 02-25-2022 12:22 PM

Nagy takes over OC duties next year.. calling my shot

wheeler08 02-25-2022 12:22 PM

Blah

Frazod 02-25-2022 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16163998)
So the question is will Matt Nagy get another HC gig before EB?

Probably. He was doomed by going to a dogshit organization.

Hopefully Andy can fix in him what the Bears/Pace broke.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-25-2022 12:26 PM

He will tell EB when to speak.

O.city 02-25-2022 12:26 PM

Good.

staylor26 02-25-2022 12:26 PM

Some will make a big deal out of this, but it’s no different than what BB has done in NE for years.

wazu 02-25-2022 12:29 PM

He did a great job with Trubisky and Fields. I'm sure he's got lots of great tips for Patrick.

The Franchise 02-25-2022 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16164033)
Some will make a big deal out of this, but it’s no different than what BB has done in NE for years.

I’m sure most people figured this was coming.

Rainbarrel 02-25-2022 12:29 PM

EB and Nagy happened while PMII was getting drunk in Vegas. 9.99 for all the details

DJ's left nut 02-25-2022 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16164008)
He’s fine for that role.

Yeah - hard to see any downside to this at all. Might be awkward answering to Bieniemy after being his boss, but I always thought the hierarchy there was pretty much just Andy and then everyone else. So if the checks are in the same ballpark, I don’t see much tension.

Discuss Thrower 02-25-2022 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16164040)
He did a great job with Trubisky and Fields. I'm sure he's got lots of great tips for Patrick.

This.

siberian khatru 02-25-2022 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16164001)
The Chiefsifization of the Chiefs continues.

:clap:

DJ's left nut 02-25-2022 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16163998)
So the question is will Matt Nagy get another HC gig before EB?

If Andy retired tomorrow, who would you rather have?

Nagy might get the big chair first. After all, EB has had about 15 interviews for the job this far and still isn’t getting offers.

Bowser 02-25-2022 12:32 PM

EB is getting fired mid-season and Nagy will take over his role. YOU READ IT HERE FIRST

htismaqe 02-25-2022 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16164058)
If Andy retired tomorrow, who would you rather have?

Nagy might get the big chair first. After all, EB has had about 15 interviews for the job this far and still isn’t getting offers.

EB is never going to be a HC in the NFL. It just isn't happening.

Discuss Thrower 02-25-2022 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16164058)
If Andy retired tomorrow, who would you rather have?

Nagy might get the big chair first. After all, EB has had about 15 interviews for the job this far and still isn’t getting offers.

Neither.

saphojunkie 02-25-2022 12:37 PM

Why are people acting like Nagy was a shitty assistant coach? Failing as a head coach doesn't mean shit except that you failed as a head coach.

KCUnited 02-25-2022 12:37 PM

Buffer between PM and EB?

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-25-2022 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16164059)
EB is getting fired mid-season and Nagy will take over his role. YOU READ IT HERE FIRST


Hmmm, Reid won't pull that trigger but now Nagy is in the role to move in to OC as the next season ends.

Rainbarrel 02-25-2022 12:40 PM

EB can interview for college or NFL without missing a beat

The Franchise 02-25-2022 12:40 PM

Now we can finally move on to cutting Frank Clark.

RunKC 02-25-2022 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16164040)
He did a great job with Trubisky and Fields. I'm sure he's got lots of great tips for Patrick.

Well Trubisky is absolute shit and Fields was supposed to have a similar plan to Mahomes first year except management forced Nagy to play a rookie who was clearly not ready

The Franchise 02-25-2022 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16164100)
Well Trubisky is absolute shit and Fields was supposed to have a similar plan to Mahomes first year except management forced Nagy to play a rookie who was clearly not ready

My problem with that is that Nagy refused to adjust his offense to help Fields succeed.

htismaqe 02-25-2022 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16164098)
Now we can finally move on to cutting Frank Clark.

YES

DJ's left nut 02-25-2022 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 16164075)
Why are people acting like Nagy was a shitty assistant coach? Failing as a head coach doesn't mean shit except that you failed as a head coach.

That's the part that cracked me up on Twitter.

All these Bears fans like "get ready to suck, Mahomes!!!" as though Nagy wasn't his QB coach and OC as a rookie. Or that Nagy didn't get Alex Smith to throw for 4k yards.

I mean it's just odd.

Nagy's a hell of a coach. He may not be a HC (then again, a lot of the mess in Chicago may not have been directly his fault), but there's little arguing with his track record as an offensive assistant.

It's a good get.

htismaqe 02-25-2022 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16164104)
My problem with that is that Nagy refused to adjust his offense to help Fields succeed.

Nagy simply doesn't have the power here to effect that. He's fine in QBC role. For that matter, it probably wouldn't matter if he were OC either, even though he'd have control of the offense, because you don't need to dumb down the offense for Mahomes.

The Franchise 02-25-2022 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16164124)
That's the part that cracked me up on Twitter.

All these Bears fans like "get ready to suck, Mahomes!!!" as though Nagy wasn't his QB coach and OC as a rookie. Or that Nagy didn't get Alex Smith to throw for 4k yards.

I mean it's just odd.

Nagy's a hell of a coach. He may not be a HC (then again, a lot of the mess in Chicago may not have been directly his fault), but there's little arguing with his track record as an offensive assistant.

It's a good get.

I’ll be interested to see the dynamic between Nagy and EB. EB was obviously over Kafka but Nagy probably holds more weight with the experience that he has.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2022 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16164104)
My problem with that is that Nagy refused to adjust his offense to help Fields succeed.

The problem is that Nagy was so damn trapped in the middle.

He had 2 COMPLETELY dissimilar QBs.

There's no system you can install that makes Andy Dalton AND Fields look good simultaneously. He knew he had to develop Fields but he also knew that Fields wasn't ready yet (his play on the field demonstrated that pretty clearly). Additionally, he probably understood he was coaching for his job, so he had to win some games and Dalton was the best opportunity there.

Trying to figure out a system that could allow him to win with Dalton while developing Fields was just impossible. And as a lame duck coach he couldn't just throw Fields to the wolves and write off 2021.

He just didn't have a prayer last season unless Field hit the ground as a guy who could win games at this level. Fields didn't.

htismaqe 02-25-2022 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16164132)
I’ll be interested to see the dynamic between Nagy and EB. EB was obviously over Kafka but Nagy probably holds more weight with the experience that he has.

That might be a good thing.

TLO 02-25-2022 12:55 PM

Bald guy with a goatee.

Welcome home. Your complementary Camaro is waiting.

The Franchise 02-25-2022 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16164143)
The problem is that Nagy was so damn trapped in the middle.

He had 2 COMPLETELY dissimilar QBs.

There's no system you can install that makes Andy Dalton AND Fields look good simultaneously. He knew he had to develop Fields but he also knew that Fields wasn't ready yet (his play on the field demonstrated that pretty clearly). Additionally, he probably understood he was coaching for his job, so he had to win some games and Dalton was the best opportunity there.

Trying to figure out a system that could allow him to win with Dalton while developing Fields was just impossible. And as a lame duck coach he couldn't just throw Fields to the wolves and write off 2021.

He just didn't have a prayer last season unless Field hit the ground as a guy who could win games at this level. Fields didn't.

Yeah…I’m not sure what the **** Chicago was doing.

staylor26 02-25-2022 01:01 PM

I wouldn’t be completely shocked if Nagy ends up Reid’s successor.

Him and Veach are obviously close.

The Franchise 02-25-2022 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16164174)
I wouldn’t be completely shocked if Nagy ends up Reid’s successor.

Him and Veach are obviously close.

You would have to think that Nagy wouldn’t want to go to a shit organization again. Why not just stick around as OC here until Reid retires and take over this one.

BossChief 02-25-2022 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16164166)
Yeah…I’m not sure what the **** Chicago was doing.

That’s what happens when your coaching staff doesn’t have good communication with the front office.

BossChief 02-25-2022 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16164193)
You would have to think that Nagy wouldn’t want to go to a shit organization again. Why not just stick around as OC here until Reid retires and take over this one.

I don’t think Nagy will be Reid’s successor. I still think that’s Kafkas job.

Rasputin 02-25-2022 01:10 PM

People want new blood for new fresh ideas I do too. However imo, I look at it like Andy has been in the business a long time and wants to surround himself with people he already knows and yes probably friendships. Nagy is like going to the restaurant and ordering the same food every single time even though every single time you look at the menu and look at all the other delicious choices.

Andy doesn't really want to let go of EB because he is also that comfort feeling, because change is harder in life than keeping the same people around you.

Bowser 02-25-2022 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16164166)
Yeah…I’m not sure what the **** Chicago was doing.

They traded up a spot to insure they would be able to draft Trubisky.....with Mahomes still on the board.

Nagy was doomed before he even got there.

KCUnited 02-25-2022 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16164204)
They traded up a spot to insure they would be able to draft Trubisky.....with Mahomes still on the board.

Nagy was doomed before he even got there.

That same dumbass hired Nagy

BossChief 02-25-2022 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16164204)
They traded up a spot to insure they would be able to draft Trubisky.....with Mahomes still on the board.

Nagy was doomed before he even got there.

That’s after they gave an ostrich a big money deal to be their starting QB.

Bowser 02-25-2022 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16164208)
That same dumbass hired Nagy

Don't use my logic against me, dammit.

stevieray 02-25-2022 01:14 PM

ok

Frazod 02-25-2022 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16164204)
They traded up a spot to insure they would be able to draft Trubisky.....with Mahomes still on the board.

Nagy was doomed before he even got there.

And foolishly traded away several picks to do it. And after opening up the vault to bring in Glennon. That's right up there with Ricky Williams/Herschel Walker.

Then they traded away more picks to get Mack, and even more to get Fields. Sure, Mack is great, and Fields could be great, but they simply had too many holes to fill to trade away picks like a drunk stuffing dollar bills into a stripper's g-string.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-25-2022 01:23 PM

Who was our OC when we won SB 54 ?

ChiTown 02-25-2022 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16164235)
Who was our OC when we won SB 54 ?

https://c.tenor.com/u1HGYov1eNEAAAAC...lark-clark.gif

suzzer99 02-25-2022 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16164125)
Nagy simply doesn't have the power here to effect that. He's fine in QBC role. For that matter, it probably wouldn't matter if he were OC either, even though he'd have control of the offense, because you don't need to dumb down the offense for Mahomes.

Nagy has whatever power Reid wants him to have.

ChiefBlueCFC 02-25-2022 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16164235)
Who was our OC when we won SB 54 ?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/ZE5jL...ized-large.gif

Imon Yourside 02-25-2022 01:31 PM

Chief win

FloridaMan88 02-25-2022 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16164033)
Some will make a big deal out of this, but it’s no different than what BB has done in NE for years.

Yes true, Andy Reid like all great/established HC’s has his long time guys.

However it was reasonable to hope for some infusion of new ideas/perspective with the coaching staff on offense considering their struggles at times to adjust to opposing defenses, highlighted by the second half collapse vs Cincinnati.

philfree 02-25-2022 01:42 PM

Put EB up in the box and let Nagy be the guy who is on the sideline sending in the plays and talking with Mahomes when the O isn't on the field.

Hoover 02-25-2022 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16164040)
He did a great job with Trubisky and Fields. I'm sure he's got lots of great tips for Patrick.

I think he gets a bad wrap, he took the Bears to the playoffs twice. And I think the front office misplayed the Mitch deal.

Pitt Gorilla 02-25-2022 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16164124)
That's the part that cracked me up on Twitter.

All these Bears fans like "get ready to suck, Mahomes!!!" as though Nagy wasn't his QB coach and OC as a rookie. Or that Nagy didn't get Alex Smith to throw for 4k yards.

I mean it's just odd.

Nagy's a hell of a coach. He may not be a HC (then again, a lot of the mess in Chicago may not have been directly his fault), but there's little arguing with his track record as an offensive assistant.

It's a good get.

I mean, it's a similar argument for Bienemy.

Sure-Oz 02-25-2022 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16164174)
I wouldn’t be completely shocked if Nagy ends up Reid’s successor.

Him and Veach are obviously close.

This.

Pitt Gorilla 02-25-2022 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16164224)
And foolishly traded away several picks to do it. And after opening up the vault to bring in Glennon. That's right up there with Ricky Williams/Herschel Walker.

Then they traded away more picks to get Mack, and even more to get Fields. Sure, Mack is great, and Fields could be great, but they simply had too many holes to fill to trade away picks like a drunk stuffing dollar bills into a stripper's g-string.

I have no idea how Pace survived taking Mitch over Pat. Year 2 should have ended his career and Year 3 made it even clearer.

Dunerdr 02-25-2022 01:49 PM

In a weird way im good with this. Another voice in the room that Andy respects might help churn some stuff out.

KCUnited 02-25-2022 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16164298)
I have no idea how Pace survived taking Mitch over Pat. Year 2 should have ended his career and Year 3 made it even clearer.

Let me introduce you to Ted Phillips, CEO and President of Football Operations and the root of all Bears ****ery not named Virginia McCaskey. Who also happens to still be employed.

https://i.imgur.com/WoSmZCH.jpg?1

BWillie 02-25-2022 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16163988)
Our savior is here

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have hired Matt Nagy as Senior Assistant/Quarterbacks Coach.<br><br>📷: AP Photo/Nam Y. Huh <a href="https://t.co/QFTQQFJ21u">pic.twitter.com/QFTQQFJ21u</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1497274185617338371?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well that rules out signing Allen Robinson.

RustShack 02-25-2022 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16164200)
I don’t think Nagy will be Reid’s successor. I still think that’s Kafkas job.

Something about QB coaches. People said Nagy could be Reid’s successor back when he was our QB coach the first time.

TribalElder 02-25-2022 01:53 PM

Andy's Coaches Orphanage

staylor26 02-25-2022 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16164318)
Well that rules out signing Allen Robinson.

He’s a QB coach. He wouldn’t even be coaching Robinson.

RustShack 02-25-2022 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16164318)
Well that rules out signing Allen Robinson.

Nagy isn’t the play caller, or WR coach.

ChiefsCountry 02-25-2022 01:55 PM

Got Andy's successor in house IMO as well.

The Franchise 02-25-2022 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16164318)
Well that rules out signing Allen Robinson.

No it doesn’t.

Wisconsin_Chief 02-25-2022 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16164318)
Well that rules out signing Allen Robinson.

Andy and Pat could still talk him into it. Nagy will be in the QB room so Robinson won’t have to deal with him mutch.

BWillie 02-25-2022 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16164324)
He’s a QB coach. He wouldn’t even be coaching Robinson.

You think that matters to him?

Chiefnj2 02-25-2022 01:57 PM

Wasn't Nagy's last game as an OC in KC a playoff loss where the offense scored a whopping 7 points?

The Franchise 02-25-2022 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16164334)
You think that matters to him?

I’m pretty sure he’d be just fine being coached by Reid and getting the ball thrown to him by Mahomes.

ChiTown 02-25-2022 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16164333)
Andy and Pat could still talk him into it. Nagy will be in the QB room so Robinson won’t have to deal with him mutch.

You know what? I think I like the way you spelled that. It seems to make more sense to me that way.

I'm going to go ahead an adopt that it my writing style. Thanks mutch!

RustShack 02-25-2022 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16164338)
Wasn't Nagy's last game as an OC in KC a playoff loss where the offense scored a whopping 7 points?

The year that he developed Mahomes behind Smith.

ChiefsCountry 02-25-2022 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16164338)
Wasn't Nagy's last game as an OC in KC a playoff loss where the offense scored a whopping 7 points?

Patrick Mahomes > Alex Smith

The Franchise 02-25-2022 02:02 PM

Nagy should be welcomed back with open arms.

Dude got Smith’s value to its highest so that we could trade him away.

KCUnited 02-25-2022 02:03 PM

I'm fine with Nagy coming back as QB coach and trust Reid and the Chiefs front office but am pumping the brakes on him being Reid's successor.

The Bears are a loser shop, but dude firmly contributed to his own firing as HC. Let's give him a couple seasons to demonstrate he's ready for the big chair again.

RustShack 02-25-2022 02:06 PM

Nagy did well enough as a QB coach to get promoted to OC. He did well enough as OC to get promoted to HC. He’ll be fine as a QB coach again. Plus Reid’s still here, so all that matters is having someone familiar with Reid and his system.

dallaschiefsfan 02-25-2022 02:08 PM

Like this for a few reasons. Nagy is an actual former QB and seemed to be good in the QB coach role in his former stint. Second, as a former head coach, we should expect his voice to carry more weight than Kafka's did. Anything that elevates other ideas in the room, I'm a fan. Also...there is no way that Nagy is reporting to EB. With all the sideline issues, I DO wonder whether they put Nagy or EB in the booth. EB in the booth might de-dramatize things.


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