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RunKC 03-04-2022 09:53 AM

Cowboys will release Amari Cooper
 
Damn. Would be amazing if this guy wants to chill with Mahomes for a year and build his reputation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cowboys are “likely” to release WR Amari Copper by the start of the new league year, per league sources.<br><br>Cooper is due $20 million in fully guaranteed money on the fifth day of the new league year, March 20.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1499771324956356613?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ChiefBlueCFC 03-04-2022 09:56 AM

save some money and get under the cap... would definitely kick the tires on Cooper, but would prefer Godwin or Robinson

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 09:56 AM

Feels like Cooper has been around forever but he's actually a year YOUNGER than Hill.

He'd be a damn nice complement to Tyreek, for sure. Especially since he appears to have largely gotten past those chronic drops that showed up for a season in Oakland.

And he'd have a nice opportunity to give the Raiders the bird here.

Problem is that I think there will be an awfully robust market for his services, especially if (when) Adams gets tagged or extended and knocks the top off the market. And with the draft being deep but not great at the top for WRs, FA is where a lot of teams are likely to look for immediate impact.

He could probably get something near $18-20 million/season.

wazu 03-04-2022 09:56 AM

Yes, please.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 09:56 AM

I wouldn't mind him as a #2 for the right price.

TLO 03-04-2022 09:56 AM

BURT!!!!!!!!!!!#!#!

Mile High Mania 03-04-2022 09:57 AM

KC would really be freakishly scary with someone like Cooper in the mix.

scho63 03-04-2022 09:57 AM

The downside of overpaying Dak and Elliot

The Franchise 03-04-2022 09:58 AM

Probably means that Gallup is off the market and headed back to Dallas.

Sofa King 03-04-2022 09:58 AM

The price won't be right and the dude is extremely hit or miss. One of the least consistent wr's in the league.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-04-2022 09:59 AM

Cooper is like Watkins. Some days he’s good some days he’s bad

RunKC 03-04-2022 09:59 AM

Get Cooper AND one of these guys and let’s ****ing ride!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official WR 40-yard dash times:<br><br>4.28 Tyquan Thornton<br>4.31 Velus Jones<br>4.32 Calvin Austin<br>4.33 Alec Pierce, Danny Gray<br>4.34 Bo Melton<br>4.36 Christian Watson<br>4.38 Garrett Wilson<br>4.39 Chris Olave<br>4.41 Skyy Moore<br>4.42 Isaiah Weston<br>4.43 Jahan Dotson, Khalil Shakir, Kevin Austin Jr.</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1499594322009853955?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TribalElder 03-04-2022 10:00 AM

overpaid and over rated

wazu 03-04-2022 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16174663)
Cooper is like Watkins. Some days he’s good some days he’s bad

We needed Watkins to win a Super Bowl. Cooper is better than Watkins.

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16174657)
Probably means that Gallup is off the market and headed back to Dallas.

Do they have that kind of cap space? Could just mean they'll be re-signing Cedrick Wilson.

In58men 03-04-2022 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 16174647)
save some money and get under the cap... would definitely kick the tires on Cooper, but would prefer Godwin or Robinson

Legit sources saying Godwin is staying in TB. I will have to go back and dig, but I’m sure Dante82 can find out….

AdolfOliverBush 03-04-2022 10:01 AM

Hard pass. There are better options for roughly the same money.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174667)
Do they have that kind of cap space? Could just mean they'll be re-signing Cedrick Wilson.

Forgot Wilson was a FA as well. Who knows what the **** the Cowboys are going to do then.

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16174668)
Legit sources saying Godwin is staying in TB. I will have to go to back and dig, but I’m sure Dante82 can find out….

They can't really tag him given that he was tagged last year - the price would be fairly exorbitant. And there's a pretty good chance they tag Jordan Whitehead so that's not going to be a small number.

Then again, with Brady's $$$ coming off the books, they probably have more than enough space to get something done with Godwin.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 10:04 AM

A WR needy team will probably overpay Cooper in the first couple of days. It'll be interesting to see if he just takes the highest contract he can get out there or if he takes less to go to a team with an established QB.

Buehler445 03-04-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174648)
Feels like Cooper has been around forever but he's actually a year YOUNGER than Hill.

He'd be a damn nice complement to Tyreek, for sure. Especially since he appears to have largely gotten past those chronic drops that showed up for a season in Oakland.

And he'd have a nice opportunity to give the Raiders the bird here.

Problem is that I think there will be an awfully robust market for his services, especially if (when) Adams gets tagged or extended and knocks the top off the market. And with the draft being deep but not great at the top for WRs, FA is where a lot of teams are likely to look for immediate impact.

He could probably get something near $18-20 million/season.

Agreed.

And the fact that they didn’t extend him to get his number down probably means he wants the money.

I’m fairly shocked that the Cowbitches will release him. He’s good. And it’s not like Dak can make something out of nothing.

RunKC 03-04-2022 10:07 AM

Cooper has made $76 million in 7 years. He’s still only 27 so he may want one last big contract. I would if I were him

ChiefBlueCFC 03-04-2022 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16174668)
Legit sources saying Godwin is staying in TB. I will have to go back and dig, but I’m sure Dante82 can find out….

Not sure we would be able to afford him regardless, but I think he would be my first pick WR bar Davante Adams

The Franchise 03-04-2022 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16174681)
Cooper has made $76 million in 7 years. He’s still only 27 so he may want one last big contract. I would if I were him

You would think, at least in my mind, that after making $76 million....that he would want a shot at a championship. $76 million isn't a tiny amount of money. I guess adding another $60-70 million is great but I would rather have a shot at rings at this point.

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2022 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 16174659)
The price won't be right and the dude is extremely hit or miss. One of the least consistent wr's in the league.

Very inconsistent hands, and pretty often is visibly disinterested in what is happening on the field. He has always feasted on teams with poor secondaries, and then vanished against good D's.

Just based on talent and physical ability, he should be a top 5 WR. However, I don't think he actually likes playing football.

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16174676)
A WR needy team will probably overpay Cooper in the first couple of days. It'll be interesting to see if he just takes the highest contract he can get out there or if he takes less to go to a team with an established QB.

He realistically has 1 more year to do the 1 year deal thing. Going into the market at 28 can still get you a big payday but by 29 you're gonna struggle a bit.

But that 1 more year needs to be huge and if I'm him, I'm not coming to KC as the #3 pass catching option for that 'make good' year. I'm going somewhere like SD at worst to replace Evans (where Allen's likely to get hurt as well). Hell, maybe even Jacksonville where he can just hog targets.

If I'm taking a 1 year deal it's not to be second fiddle because his earning power could really tank.

I'd probably take the most money I can get over the first 3 years if I'm Cooper. The risk likely isn't worth the reward.

mr. tegu 03-04-2022 10:13 AM

No thanks. It would be like having Watkins again with the only difference being Cooper is healthy when he is unproductive.

Red Dawg 03-04-2022 10:13 AM

He's a ****ing bum and expensive. Hard pass. Hill will cost enough. We need a solid cheaper option.

ChiTown 03-04-2022 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16174694)
He's a ****ing bum and expensive. Hard pass. Hill will cost enough. We need a solid cheaper option.

A legit sidekick to Hill is NOT going to be cheap. FYI

BigRedChief 03-04-2022 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16174650)
I wouldn't mind him as a #2 for the right price.

I'm thining like DJ... probably $18-$20 a year. Too rich for us to spend on a #2.

PHOG 03-04-2022 10:19 AM

Nah

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 10:20 AM

I don't really get the 'bum' talk.

You can pretty much write him down for 15 games and 1,000 yards. He has that one season in Oakland where he just vapor locked and dropped everything thrown his way. Then last year they were really trying to spread the ball around with Cooper, Lamb, Schultz and Gallup/Wilson in the Y getting over 100 targets. Pollard/Elliott got 100 targets as well.

I mean would any of us really turn up our noses at a 70% catch rate and 70 receptions for 900 yards out of our #2 receiver? What the hell are you looking for if not THAT guy?

Cooper would be very nice fit here. He's a great route runner, gets strong separation, is willing to be physical and can run after the catch. He's not Lou Gehrig out there but he IS usually healthy.

He checks a TON of boxes. I think too many Chiefs fans are just conditioned to shit on anything Raider (and Cowboy, for that matter) so they're not giving him his due credit.

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16174705)
I'm thining like DJ... probably $18-$20 a year. Probably too rich for us to spend on a #2.

Yeah - this is the issue.

But ability isn't. Cooper is a good receiver.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 10:23 AM

Veach has shown that he's willing to spend on talent around Mahomes. Shit he went and spent $48 million on Watkins and shocked everyone. He could easily do that again this year.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 10:28 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would you? Amari Cooper 3y/$58.5m (has $6m remaining from Dallas), $9m signing bonus, $38.5m guaranteed.<br><br>Cap hits of <br>2022: $11m<br>2023: $23m<br>2024: $24.5m(potential out; $17m savings if cut)<br><br>$19.5m AAV, teachable incentives up to $21.5m AAV. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1499778987593191425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

jdubya 03-04-2022 10:34 AM

He shows up for some games and then takes several games off. I watched him closely when he was a Raider and he has all the tools but often just looks disinterested. Is this a trend that he plays for a couple of seasons and then checks out? As a Raider fan I had much higher hopes for him but certainly wasn't heartbroken when he left.

Hoover 03-04-2022 10:43 AM

He would be a perfect #2

Reroka 03-04-2022 10:44 AM

I would sign him. He would work well with PMII

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16174732)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would you? Amari Cooper 3y/$58.5m (has $6m remaining from Dallas), $9m signing bonus, $38.5m guaranteed.<br><br>Cap hits of <br>2022: $11m<br>2023: $23m<br>2024: $24.5m(potential out; $17m savings if cut)<br><br>$19.5m AAV, teachable incentives up to $21.5m AAV. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1499778987593191425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So that's base salaries of 8, 20, and 21.5 million and a $9 million bonus. If you cut him after 2 years, you're looking at spending $37 million for 2 years.

That's just too rich for a #2 wideout. Anything north of $13 is probably further than I'm willing to go to address that position. Again, we have a half BILLION dollar quarterback. He shouldn't need $60 million plowed into his top 3 targets to be successful. And he doesn't.

It's an unnecessary luxury splurge and something I would've hoped we have already learned some lessons from.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 10:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Part of the plan here, I’m told from a league source, is buttoning up a long term deal for Michael Gallup. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> felt it was an either/or and are making Gallup the priority. <a href="https://t.co/3eUp7ffIRR">https://t.co/3eUp7ffIRR</a></p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1499773946593431555?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 03-04-2022 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174767)
So that's base salaries of 8, 20, and 21.5 million and a $9 million bonus. If you cut him after 2 years, you're looking at spending $37 million for 2 years.

That's just too rich for a #2 wideout. Anything north of $13 is probably further than I'm willing to go to address that position. Again, we have a half BILLION dollar quarterback. He shouldn't need $60 million plowed into his top 3 targets to be successful. And he doesn't.

It's an unnecessary luxury splurge and something I would've hoped we have already learned some lessons from.

It's definitely rich for a 3rd option but Veach has shown that he'll do what he thinks is best. Maybe he sees Kelce slowing down and wants to find someone to siphon off some of those targets.

Does that mean we should blow the bank on a WR2? Not necessarily but it wouldn't surprise me.

BWillie 03-04-2022 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16174665)
overpaid and over rated

He was. Maybe he won't be now. He would be a very solid #2 for this squad.

BleedingRed 03-04-2022 10:58 AM

Cooper is a perfect fit for this offense…. Sign me the **** up

- still has great wheels
- good to great hands
- amazing route runner

Plus will probably rape the Raiders every game.

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16174791)
Cooper is a perfect fit for this offense…. Sign me the **** up

- still has great wheels
- good to great hands
- amazing route runner

Plus will probably rape the Raiders every game.

I'd be all for it but he's going to be too expensive.

BWillie 03-04-2022 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16174800)
I'd be all for it but he's going to be too expensive.

More or less expensive than our left tackle?

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 16174743)
He shows up for some games and then takes several games off. I watched him closely when he was a Raider and he has all the tools but often just looks disinterested. Is this a trend that he plays for a couple of seasons and then checks out? As a Raider fan I had much higher hopes for him but certainly wasn't heartbroken when he left.

He's also the guy that really turned the Cowboys offense around when they acquired him.

Let's face it - consistency is nice, but with Hill and Kelce on the field, it isn't vital. And do you think he's a guy who's going to check out in the post-season when we really need him?

But I think it's all moot because I'm just not willing to make the financials work with him.

Steron 03-04-2022 11:05 AM

Who gets a bigger contract? Amari Cooper or Allen Robinson?

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174801)
More or less expensive than our left tackle?

OBJ is going to get over $20M per and he's worth it.

Cooper isn't going to get that much but he's likely to get close to Tyreek money (assuming Tyreek gets a new contract soon) and that's not doable considering all the other needs we have.

Shoes 03-04-2022 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174709)
I don't really get the 'bum' talk.

You can pretty much write him down for 15 games and 1,000 yards. He has that one season in Oakland where he just vapor locked and dropped everything thrown his way. Then last year they were really trying to spread the ball around with Cooper, Lamb, Schultz and Gallup/Wilson in the Y getting over 100 targets. Pollard/Elliott got 100 targets as well.

I mean would any of us really turn up our noses at a 70% catch rate and 70 receptions for 900 yards out of our #2 receiver? What the hell are you looking for if not THAT guy?

Cooper would be very nice fit here. He's a great route runner, gets strong separation, is willing to be physical and can run after the catch. He's not Lou Gehrig out there but he IS usually healthy.

He checks a TON of boxes. I think too many Chiefs fans are just conditioned to shit on anything Raider (and Cowboy, for that matter) so they're not giving him his due credit.

My thoughts exactly- he is a better version of what Sammy Watkins brought to this team.

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2022 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174803)
He's also the guy that really turned the Cowboys offense around when they acquired him.

Let's face it - consistency is nice, but with Hill and Kelce on the field, it isn't vital. And do you think he's a guy who's going to check out in the post-season when we really need him?

But I think it's all moot because I'm just not willing to make the financials work with him.

Yes. He's a heartless pussy. Only really shows up against bad teams. Have a close look at his game logs.

BleedingRed 03-04-2022 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 16174811)
My thoughts exactly- he is a better version of what Sammy Watkins brought to this team.

Much better when you factor in health and mental toughness. He is by all accounts a great locker room guy to.

BleedingRed 03-04-2022 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16174815)
Yes. He's a heartless pussy. Only really shows up against bad teams. Have a close look at his game logs.

Check his green bag game first year in Dallas and get back to me, or Rams year before last.

Again this is with Dak throwing to him. His route running is amazing and going over the middle is ok with him. He is a perfect compliment to Hill

The Franchise 03-04-2022 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16174819)
Check his green bag game first year in Dallas and get back to me, or Rams year before last.

Again this is with Dak throwing to him. His route running is amazing and going over the middle is ok with him. He is a perfect compliment to Hill

Or Week 1 against the Bucs this last season.

Raiders fans are just pissed that he didn't work out for them.

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16174815)
Yes. He's a heartless pussy. Only really shows up against bad teams. Have a close look at his game logs.

In his 3 playoff games in Dallas he's gone for 19 catches for 235 yards and 2 scores on 28 targets.

Pro-rate it over 16 games (it's just more intuitive than 17) and you're looking at a 1,250 yard receiver on at 68% catch rate w/ 11 touchdowns.

Yeah - real piece of shit, that guy.

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:14 AM

I watch quite a bit of Cowboys football (thank to my late FIL) and Cooper is fearless. The guy has no problems operating in traffic and making tough catches.

He'd be nails in this offense, opposite Hill. I just don't think it's worth the amount of money he'll likely command.

BWillie 03-04-2022 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16174808)
OBJ is going to get over $20M per and he's worth it.

Cooper isn't going to get that much but he's likely to get close to Tyreek money (assuming Tyreek gets a new contract soon) and that's not doable considering all the other needs we have.

Then you sign the WR. I know this shit. I was really good at Madden 08. Trust me. I took the Mexico City Flying Squirrels to back-to-back-to-back-to-back-back Super Bowls on intermediate mode.

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174829)
Then you sign the WR. I know this shit. I was really good at Madden 08. Trust me. I took the Mexico City Flying Squirrels to back-to-back-to-back-to-back-back Super Bowls on intermediate mode.

So you're suggesting that we let OBJ walk and sign Cooper with that money?

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174829)
Then you sign the WR. I know this shit. I was really good at Madden 08. Trust me. I took the Mexico City Flying Squirrels to back-to-back-to-back-to-back-back Super Bowls on intermediate mode.

Anybody that didn't move their team to the cash machine that was Mexico City just wasn't doing it right.

Mexico City was a goldmine.

tredadda 03-04-2022 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16174732)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would you? Amari Cooper 3y/$58.5m (has $6m remaining from Dallas), $9m signing bonus, $38.5m guaranteed.<br><br>Cap hits of <br>2022: $11m<br>2023: $23m<br>2024: $24.5m(potential out; $17m savings if cut)<br><br>$19.5m AAV, teachable incentives up to $21.5m AAV. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1499778987593191425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not sure he is worth $23 or $24 million.

BleedingRed 03-04-2022 11:19 AM

Out of all the WRs out there he would be by far the best fit

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2022 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174824)
In his 3 playoff games in Dallas he's gone for 19 catches for 235 yards and 2 scores on 28 targets.

Pro-rate it over 16 games (it's just more intuitive than 17) and you're looking at a 1,250 yard receiver on at 68% catch rate w/ 11 touchdowns.

Yeah - real piece of shit, that guy.

Why do you think Dallas is dumping him?

The Franchise 03-04-2022 11:23 AM

The scheme fit is obvious. It's all going to come down to money if Veach wants to go after him.

mkp785 03-04-2022 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16174655)
The downside of overpaying Dak and Elliot

Yup. Dallas should cut Zeke, not Cooper. Pollard is 2x the player at this point.

MarkDavis'Haircut 03-04-2022 11:26 AM

Cooper is Jekyll and Hyde. Some games he looks unstoppable and then other games he just flat disappears.

I think he is bipolar and really doesn't want love love football.

But he is talented. So he will become the Cook of WRs. Forever bouncing from team to team. Good enough to play but not liked enough to stay.

DJ's left nut 03-04-2022 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16174858)
Why do you think Dallas is dumping him?

Because it's a $20 million roster bonus so it all hits the cap for 2022. Very few teams are excited to spend $20 million in cap space on a WR especially when they've already set $18 million on fire for a below average RB who might be the 3rd best back on their team.

People call Frank Clark a probable 'cap casualty' when the reality is he's getting cut because he wasn't very good. Cooper was good - but he's a TRUE cap casualty. If the Cowboys could keep him, they would.

But please, tell me more about how awful he was in the playoffs.

BWillie 03-04-2022 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16174832)
So you're suggesting that we let OBJ walk and sign Cooper with that money?

If it came to that, yeah.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 11:29 AM

I love the people talking about how Cooper doesn't "love football". Talk out your ass some more like you know Cooper as a person.

Jesus.

MarkDavis'Haircut 03-04-2022 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174803)
He's also the guy that really turned the Cowboys offense around when they acquired him.

Let's face it - consistency is nice, but with Hill and Kelce on the field, it isn't vital. And do you think he's a guy who's going to check out in the post-season when we really need him?

But I think it's all moot because I'm just not willing to make the financials work with him.

Fair warning. A couple of years ago, Dallas was playing in a must win game. On the final drive, Cooper was MIA for either the whole drive or the last few big plays. In obvious passing downs.

htismaqe 03-04-2022 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174872)
If it came to that, yeah.

And you wonder why people look at you funny...

ChiefsCountry 03-04-2022 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16174694)
He's a ****ing bum and expensive. Hard pass. Hill will cost enough. We need a solid cheaper option.

This right here is enough to sign him.

mkp785 03-04-2022 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16174872)
If it came to that, yeah.

That's insane. Drop a pro bowl LT for a WR who will be 3rd in line for targets.

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2022 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174824)
In his 3 playoff games in Dallas he's gone for 19 catches for 235 yards and 2 scores on 28 targets.

Pro-rate it over 16 games (it's just more intuitive than 17) and you're looking at a 1,250 yard receiver on at 68% catch rate w/ 11 touchdowns.

Yeah - real piece of shit, that guy.

Again, you need to look at the game logs. He has a 2 catch 10 yard performance in there.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...C/CoopAm00.htm

oldman 03-04-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16174808)
OBJ is going to get over $20M per and he's worth it.

Cooper isn't going to get that much but he's likely to get close to Tyreek money (assuming Tyreek gets a new contract soon) and that's not doable considering all the other needs we have.

That's how I see it, too.

philfree 03-04-2022 11:39 AM

It has Raiders and Cowboy stank on it so no thanks.

Sassy Squatch 03-04-2022 11:43 AM

Remember he actually had a larger contract offer on the table from WFT last time he was up for free agency. May not just go to the highest bidder although being #3 here probably isn't the most appealing situation out there.

BWillie 03-04-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16174898)
That's insane. Drop a pro bowl LT for a WR who will be 3rd in line for targets.

That's right.

MarkDavis'Haircut 03-04-2022 12:03 PM

Marcus Johnson (@TheMarcJohnNFL)

It is interesting that two QBs just stop targeting Amari Cooper after years of playing with him.

jdubya 03-04-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16174803)
He's also the guy that really turned the Cowboys offense around when they acquired him.

Let's face it - consistency is nice, but with Hill and Kelce on the field, it isn't vital. And do you think he's a guy who's going to check out in the post-season when we really need him?

But I think it's all moot because I'm just not willing to make the financials work with him.

I agree with the bolded. Coop is a pretty good player but nowhere near worth what he will likely command.

As to your 3rd sentence I honestly dont know what makes him "check out" or not. I remember the Raiders marching down the field late in the 4th quarter and Collinsworth on TV was asking, "Where is Amari Cooper"? The camera showed him sitting on his helmet on the sideline. Collinsworth sounded pissed saying these are the moments WR`s live for and you would need to drag him off the field at times like this.....Cooper looked like he was a million miles away. Ive heard similar from Cowboy fans. There are times when he plays big time and with emotion, and then there are times I wonder if he has a pulse. I remember when Pacman broke up a pass to Cooper and then proceeded to rip his helmet off and slam his head against it. Cooper didn't even try to defend himself. Zero emotion.

Shields68 03-04-2022 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16174842)
Not sure he is worth $23 or $24 million.

Guessing that is why he is being released. But he probably is worth the 15 range. Not sure it works with our cap situation though.

The Franchise 03-04-2022 12:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��������������������: Cowboys will try to trade Amari Cooper, expected to release veteran WR if no deal reached (per <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a>)<a href="https://t.co/7dibKdbIbh">https://t.co/7dibKdbIbh</a> <a href="https://t.co/6sn7Lss1eJ">pic.twitter.com/6sn7Lss1eJ</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1499796615946661888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The old “give us anything” for him ploy.


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