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Dante84 03-14-2022 09:55 PM

Charvarious Ward to San Francisco
 
Damn.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Chiefs’ CB Charvarious Ward intends to sign a three-year deal worth up to $42 million including $26.7 million guaranteed with the San Francisco 49ers, his agency <a href="https://twitter.com/UniSportsMgmt?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UniSportsMgmt</a> told ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1503580635033706499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 03-14-2022 09:56 PM

$14 million a season? I would have easily paid that.

staylor26 03-14-2022 09:56 PM

Figured that would be his destination if he left.

Sucks, but I’m interested to see where they use the money.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-14-2022 09:57 PM

Got paid.

Kman34 03-14-2022 09:57 PM

Shit..

The Franchise 03-14-2022 09:57 PM

Better go get Gladney.

wazu 03-14-2022 09:57 PM

Good deal for San Fran. Gonna miss that guy.

Phoneix 03-14-2022 09:57 PM

Unfortunate we couldn’t keep him.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-14-2022 09:57 PM

Dang it.

Dante84 03-14-2022 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16191738)
Better go get Gladney.

Who are some other targets?

rabblerouser 03-14-2022 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoneix (Post 16191740)
Unfortunate we couldn’t keep him.

I don't know why. He was a damn good corner.

The Franchise 03-14-2022 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16191749)
Who are some other targets?

Rasul Douglas

FloridaMan88 03-14-2022 10:00 PM

Veach’s philosophy of not paying CB’s continues for better or worse.

Fenton and Sneed time to step up.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-14-2022 10:00 PM

Trust in Berf Verch when it comes to finding corners on the cheap.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-14-2022 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16191749)
Who are some other targets?

Darious Williams I like him from rams.

staylor26 03-14-2022 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 16191759)
Darious Williams I like him from rams.

Way too small for this system.

RunKC 03-14-2022 10:01 PM

Kevin King
Ahkello Witherspoon
Donte Jackson

Very young higher profile players to consider

DJ's left nut 03-14-2022 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16191732)
$14 million a season? I would have easily paid that.

Had to ****ing save our nickels and dimes for Frank goddamn ****ing pile of shit Clark.

Love seeing a homegrown, ascending defensive back leave so we can retain a ****ing uzi-wielding fraudulent ass-clown who's done nothing but steal money from this franchise for 3 years all in a face-saving move so we can pretend like pissing away a first rounder for this piece of shit instead of just signing Za'Darius Smith wasn't obviously the move to have made.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2022 10:02 PM

Sneed-Fenton-Hughes-Brown

Time to see if Fenton can hold up full time out there and Hughes can play significant snaps.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2022 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16191765)
Had to ****ing save our nickels and dimes for Frank goddamn ****ing pile of shit Clark.

That money was gone either way. Stop it.

The Franchise 03-14-2022 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16191766)
Sneed-Fenton-Hughes-Brown

Time to see if Fenton can hold up full time out there and Hughes can play significant snaps.

Hughes is a FA.

Sofa King 03-14-2022 10:03 PM

Oofta. Hard to say anything but “we got worse” big time so far.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2022 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16191764)
Kevin King
Ahkello Witherspoon
Donte Jackson

Very young higher profile players to consider

Kevin King is high profile because he gets beaten like a rented mule every time he's on the field. Witherspon got traded for a bucket of dicks last year. Donte Jackson gave up receptions on 2/3 of his targets last season while Ward was at 50%.

In what world are ANY of those guys suitable substitutes for Charvarius Ward?

Red Dawg 03-14-2022 10:04 PM

He's stupid for going to Cali. Hisoney will vanish in taxes. He didn't get what he thinks he got net profit.

Dante84 03-14-2022 10:04 PM

Does Gilmore have anything left?

DTVietnam 03-14-2022 10:05 PM

terrible..throwing money at some unknown for the Trash Texans and lettign our homegrown talent walk. .

DJ's left nut 03-14-2022 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16191767)
That money was gone either way. Stop it.

$6.6 million of it was.

Not the other $9 million we'll have against our cap next year.

Wanna bet that Ward's year 1 cap charge is WELL below $9 million?

We could've easily kept Ward over Clark. We chose the latter.

And yet again we'll have chosen the wrong player.

DTVietnam 03-14-2022 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16191773)
He's stupid for going to Cali. Hisoney will vanish in taxes. He didn't get what he thinks he got net profit.

yeah what an idiot signing a deal for 10s of millions of dollars to live in a city where the weather is always perfect...ands play for a conternder. .

Chieftain 03-14-2022 10:06 PM

This creates a big hole that has to be addressed in the draft at this point.

smithandrew051 03-14-2022 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16191778)
$6.6 million of it was.

Not the other $9 million we'll have against our cap next year.

Wanna bet that Ward's year 1 cap charge is WELL below $9 million?

We could've easily kept Ward over Clark. We chose the latter.

And yet again we'll have chosen the wrong player.

Ward doesn’t set the edge like Clark

Bump 03-14-2022 10:07 PM

damn was really hoping to keep him, he may not get picks but he's reliable in coverage. Now CB is a need

Chieftain 03-14-2022 10:08 PM

I like Ward but he is not worth $14 million a year.

DTVietnam 03-14-2022 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16191766)
Sneed-Fenton-Hughes-Brown

gross....Mahomes better be able to put up 40 a game and not ignore wide open recievers like he did in the AFCCG

BryanBusby 03-14-2022 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16191790)
I like Ward but he is not worth $14 million a year.

You're nuts. He totally was.

Brett just not going to pay it.

Dante84 03-14-2022 10:09 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A good time to remind you that the most any cornerback has made under Brett Veach is 3.5 million a year. Veach knows how to find cheap effective corners</p>&mdash; Cody Tapp (@codybtapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/codybtapp/status/1503583981094195203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-14-2022 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16191778)
$6.6 million of it was.

Not the other $9 million we'll have against our cap next year.

Wanna bet that Ward's year 1 cap charge is WELL below $9 million?

We could've easily kept Ward over Clark. We chose the latter.

And yet again we'll have chosen the wrong player.

JFC man what part Of the 6m was a post June 1st cut not now. Chiefs need space now it was 13.6 this year to cut him now.

smithandrew051 03-14-2022 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16191790)
I like Ward but he is not worth $14 million a year.

It wouldn’t be $14 million per year though. It would’ve been more. We would’ve had to beat that deal, right?

ChiefsFan123456 03-14-2022 10:09 PM

I think Ward is going to suck in San Francisco and if he does then it is no big loss

BossChief 03-14-2022 10:09 PM

I’m glad for him.

I’d have given him that to keep him, but I understand why Veach capped his offer at 13.

I bet he hates losing Silverback and Ward to SF, though. That’s gotta suck.

DaFace 03-14-2022 10:12 PM

This one makes me sad.

carcosa 03-14-2022 10:12 PM

BUNK PEATS IS DEAD 2 ME

Titty Meat 03-14-2022 10:14 PM

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Charvarious come back baby

FloridaMan88 03-14-2022 10:16 PM

He should pay his respects to Dee Ford’s prosthetic back there.

Chieftain 03-14-2022 10:20 PM

Bert's strategy to not invest big money or high picks in corners is very... peculiar. We are thin in our secondary at the moment. There is a need for another starting safety and two starting calibre corners to compete in what has become the toughest division in football.

Our secondary must be priority #1 to counter the elite QBs in our division and the conference as a whole.

staylor26 03-14-2022 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16191838)
Bert's strategy to not invest big money or high picks in corners is very... peculiar. We are thin in our secondary at the moment. There is a need for another starting safety and two starting calibre corners to compete in what has become the toughest division in football.

Our secondary must be priority #1 to counter the elite QBs in our division and the conference as a whole.

We have our 2 starting safeties…

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2022 10:23 PM

As of now this DB corp sucks a bag of dicks and will be facing Allen, Williams, Jeudy and Sutton next year,

Chieftain 03-14-2022 10:23 PM

Thornhill has yet to prove himself as a reliable starter.

Imon Yourside 03-14-2022 10:23 PM

It's over, moving on....

staylor26 03-14-2022 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16191844)
As of now this DB corp sucks a bag of dicks and will be facing Allen, Williams, Jeudy and Sutton next year,

Good thing the season doesn’t start tomorrow!

staylor26 03-14-2022 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16191845)
Thornhill has yet to prove himself as a reliable starter.

Dumb. He might not have reached his ceiling, but he’s already a solid starter, especially on a rookie deal.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2022 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16191847)
Good thing the season doesn’t start tomorrow!

True story, curious to see what Veach does to fill a lot of holes (especially on defense) with limited cap space. (even after Mahomes/Hill restructures)

Chieftain 03-14-2022 10:27 PM

If he hasn't reached a ceiling by now maybe that's about as high as he goes? A rotational safety at best. There is a reason why Spags doesn't trust him.

Titty Meat 03-14-2022 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16191859)
If he hasn't reached a ceiling by now maybe that's about as high as he goes? A rotational safety at best. There is a reason why Spags doesn't trust him.

He was coming off a knee injury and played ok before be looked like a damn good pick. You're moving on way too fast

Dante84 03-14-2022 10:29 PM

We can always trade for a veteran CB, too...

Hammock Parties 03-14-2022 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16191844)
As of now this DB corp sucks a bag of dicks and will be facing Allen, Williams, Jeudy and Sutton next year,

Silliness. Sneed, Fenton, Thornhill and Reid are all quality starters. No one in that group is below average.

The DB group will take a hit losing Ward but if they add a solid nickel back, they're good.

The issue is pass rush. That is the biggest bag of dicks we need to get longer.

Titty Meat 03-14-2022 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16191851)
True story, curious to see what Veach does to fill a lot of holes (especially on defense) with limited cap space. (even after Mahomes/Hill restructures)

Gladney & Booth in the draft would be dope

BossChief 03-14-2022 10:31 PM

Fenton
Thornhill
Reid
Snead
Baker
Key

That looks like a group that needs 2-3 more pieces but isn’t bad as it sits. Losing Ward sucks, but I’m sure Veach has some great ideas on how to replace him.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2022 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16191864)
Silliness. Sneed, Fenton, Thornhill and Reid are all quality starters. No one in that group is below average.

The DB group will take a hit losing Ward but if they add a solid nickel back, they're good.

The issue is pass rush. That is the biggest bag of dicks we need to get longer.

Im fine with the safety group, but the CB's need some upgrades stat.

Sneed and Fenton against those four monsters in LA/DEN is asking for trouble.

Rasputin 03-14-2022 10:32 PM

Shit he really stepped it up last year. Was hoping he'd stay. Dammit Brenda :cuss:

DJ's left nut 03-14-2022 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16191783)
Ward doesn’t set the edge like Clark

Okay now that's good shit right there.

{tips cap}

ForeverIowan 03-14-2022 10:33 PM

Veach clearly has a plan. Wouldnt have let Ward walk at that figure if he didnt. This has Jeff Gladney on the cheap written all over it.

staylor26 03-14-2022 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16191871)
Im fine with the safety group, but the CB's need some upgrades stat.

Sneed and Fenton against those four monsters in LA/DEN is asking for trouble.

Lol wut?

Sneed is legitimately a very good player and Fenton is solid . You just need to replace Ward.

Rain Man 03-14-2022 10:34 PM

This hurts. You can never have too many good cornerbacks.

I guess the positive is that Fenton is starting caliber.

Chieftain 03-14-2022 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16191862)
He was coming off a knee injury and played ok before be looked like a damn good pick. You're moving on way too fast

You have to move quickly when you see what our division rivals are doing. Both Denver and LA have much better secondaries than we do as of this moment. And they of course have elite QBs to go along with that.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2022 10:37 PM

There was virtually no difference in how Sneed and Fenton played the last two years vs Ward, with the exception that none of them got roasted as bad as Ward did in CIN.

The Chiefs just need to find a pass rush and make sure their nickel cornerback isn't a bag of ass. They might want to replace Brown as 4th CB too since he hasn't proven much. Depth is the big concern now because one injury and you're totally exposed on the outside.

Titty Meat 03-14-2022 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 16191881)
You have to move quickly when you see what our division rivals are doing. Both Denver and LA have much better secondaries than we do as of this moment. And they of course have elite QBs to go along with that.

Thats not how Veach works with corners. Tbh I won't care who our corners are if we improve the pass rush

FloridaMan88 03-14-2022 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16191871)
Im fine with the safety group, but the CB's need some upgrades stat.

Sneed and Fenton against those four monsters in LA/DEN is asking for trouble.

Denver has a “monstrous” WR group? Since when?

staylor26 03-14-2022 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16191888)
Denver has a “monstrous” WR group? Since when?

Yea I thought that was laughable as well.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2022 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16191879)
Lol wut?

Sneed is legitimately a very good player and Fenton is solid . You just need to replace Ward.

Two B/B- CB's with nothing behind them at the moment with a LOT of A WR's in the division.

Early in the process, but a big hole on defense along with the pass rush.

They needed help in the DB before losing Ward.

DTVietnam 03-14-2022 10:41 PM

no way Chiefs are thinking of winning anything this year unless we makes some big moves in the coming weeks..otherwise get ready for a mini 2-3 year rebuild. .

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2022 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16191888)
Denver has a “monstrous” WR group? Since when?

Since they actually have a real QB throwing them the ball now?

You're gonna judge them based on Lock and Teddy throwing the ball?

DTVietnam 03-14-2022 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16191891)
Two B/B- CB's with nothing behind them at the moment with a LOT of A WR's in the division.

Early in the process, but a big hole on defense along with the pass rush.

They needed help in the DB before losing Ward.

also lost depth at RB...depth at WR

Titty Meat 03-14-2022 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16191891)
Two B/B- CB's with nothing behind them at the moment with a LOT of A WR's in the division.

Early in the process, but a big hole on defense along with the pass rush.

They needed help in the DB before losing Ward.

I love Ward but to be far he wasn't an A corner and we weren't getting Jackson. This is what Veach does with corners for better or worse.

The Franchise 03-14-2022 10:48 PM

Bring in Gladney and draft one. Sucks but we’ve never had a big money CB with Veach/Spags here.

Iconic 03-14-2022 10:50 PM

Sign a depth corner who can spot start and pick the other up in the first 3 rounds. Way more worried about the DL than our secondary with Reid locked in.

DJ's left nut 03-14-2022 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16191879)
Lol wut?

Sneed is legitimately a very good player and Fenton is solid . You just need to replace Ward.

Lord I hope we don't **** around with Sneed now.

I was calling for a Ward extension last year because this always seemed like a real possibility. I have NO interest in letting Sneed get to the market after he puts it all together.

Unfortunately we can't extend him this off-season because of the 3-year rule, but the moment that dude is extension eligible I hope Veach is banging on his door and Reid's assuring him that either his brains or his signature will be on that contract...

staylor26 03-14-2022 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16191917)
Lord I hope we don't **** around with Sneed now.

I was calling for a Ward extension last year because this always seemed like a real possibility. I have NO interest in letting Sneed get to the market after he puts it all together.

Unfortunately we can't extend him this off-season because of the 3-year rule, but the moment that dude is extension eligible I hope Veach is banging on his door and Reid's assuring him that either his brains or his signature will be on that contract...

He’s arguably Veach’s best draft pick, or at least will be the first to get to his 2nd contract. For that reason, I’m optimistic.

I think not paying Ward probably has something to do with paying Sneed down the line. He’s probably the lone guy that they’ve identified as worthy of a second contract in that group.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2022 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16191917)
Lord I hope we don't **** around with Sneed now.

I was calling for a Ward extension last year because this always seemed like a real possibility. I have NO interest in letting Sneed get to the market after he puts it all together.

Unfortunately we can't extend him this off-season because of the 3-year rule, but the moment that dude is extension eligible I hope Veach is banging on his door and Reid's assuring him that either his brains or his signature will be on that contract...

This.

smithandrew051 03-14-2022 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16191917)
Lord I hope we don't **** around with Sneed now.

I was calling for a Ward extension last year because this always seemed like a real possibility. I have NO interest in letting Sneed get to the market after he puts it all together.

Unfortunately we can't extend him this off-season because of the 3-year rule, but the moment that dude is extension eligible I hope Veach is banging on his door and Reid's assuring him that either his brains or his signature will be on that contract...

What about Fenton? An extension for him might be reasonable right now.

If he ends up moving outside full time and performs well, won’t his value skyrocket?

TribalElder 03-14-2022 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16191773)
He's stupid for going to Cali. Hisoney will vanish in taxes. He didn't get what he thinks he got net profit.

I would be interested in the actual numbers for this

That area of california vs kcmo and how much gets sucked up in taxes along with cost of living increases


Quote:

Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16191780)
yeah what an idiot signing a deal for 10s of millions of dollars to live in a city where the weather is always perfect...ands play for a conternder. .

The 49ers will never win a championship with Kyle Shannarat as head coach, he is a choker


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