What’s your preference for Tyreeks future?
 

28.2m AAV is what Adams just got and he got 5 years while on the franchise tag. Adams is a little over a year older than Tyreek and LV traded a first and second round pick for the right to pay him the largest contract in history for a WR. Tyreek is going into the last year of his contract and can be franchised next season, if needed …but then it gets dicey…

Tyreek turned 28 and an extension would start at 29. HOF WR. Loves the team and city. Perfect fit for offense and Pats arm. It’s hard to even think of him in another jersey, but at close to 30m per year? That’s tough.

I think the options are kinda limited for his future.

We pay him market value.
We trade him for similar compensation
We franchise tag him until we can’t.

Poll incoming

Trade him.

You’re returns will never be greater than they are now.

keep him forever

Depends on the dollars and the compensation.

If he brings Adams comp and would cost the same, then I’d trade him.

He’s the offensive take him away and it’s ugly

The devante adams deal is an aids bomb

I just don't understand the point of trying to break the bank on these deals just to end up getting cut because in a year or two the team has cap issues and can't honor the deal

same goes for any player taking a back loaded deal

this

he's a top 3 WR in the NFL, one of the fastest if not the fastest and is in remarkable shape. Maybe the best in-shape athlete alive. I hope he retires a Chief and goes to the HOF 5 years after he retires. Maybe when he's 35 you can let him go at that point.

There’s never been a WR like Tyreek. Seriously the guy runs a 40 in the low 4.2’s and has a 6.5 3 cone.

Even when he starts to slow down he’s still going to be damn good. You don’t even think of letting him go until he’s 31 IMO

I probably knock him too much on size but I do feel like once he looses a little bit of that gear, he could problems but I feel like he’s really underrated as far as developing his craft. He’s far from just a speed guy anymore.

Tough call really.

If we can get 1st and 2nd round picks off a team very likely to finish in the bottom 10-15 of the league every year like the Raiders then you have to try and stack some picks for Tyreek. Production for WR1’s starts to fall off around age 30 so it wouldn’t be a bad play to draft a top 10 WR and get some more cheap players to build around as well. It’s not like there is a shortage of talented young receivers coming up every year. Yeah, I love Tyreek, but if I could trade Tyreek and draft a stud WR like Chase or Justin Jefferson, and get solid starters on rookie contracts with the extra 1st and 2nd day picks….I’ll do that everytime. The gamble is not having that WR produce, but that’s football. I think I’d rather take a gamble on drafting a WR in the early 1st round than ****ing up and signing a WR to play into his 30’s taking up a huge chunk of your salary cap. The numbers usually side with the young draft picks if history shows us anything.

He's such a unicorn, I'd ride him until he breaks...to hell with the consequences.

My preference for Tyreek is for him to beat Weatherman Kumke's ass at training camp in the near future

Here is history of salary cap.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cba/

I expect it will continue to increase as it has every year except for 2021.

All the elite positions are going to adjust upward.

$25 million AAV in the upcoming years is going to be what $17 million AAV was 3 seasons ago.

Pay Tyreek market value.

I hope Tyreek plays for KC until he retires

same goes for Kelce and Mahomes

They are all time greats and I hope they spend their entire careers here in KC

Darryl Green a HOF CB with the same physical specs as TH and the fastest man in the NFL for much of his career retired at the age of 42 and still could pull a 4.4 and in his prime for 2/3 of that 20 yr career could still run 4.2-4.3. Tyreek ain't losing any speed or quickness anytime soon. Longterm deal, PERIOD!!

Pay him and pay him as soon as possible. What he brings to this offense is very hard to replace. He has elite speed and body control. He is outstanding at tracking the ball. He has fairly reliable hands and is quite durable for his size. Very, very few WRs had all of that. He is entering his prime right now, waiting to sign him ensures his cost will continue to rise.

What’s market value? Adam’s is way up there and then there’s a huge drop off.

3 players i want to retire as a Chief

Tyreek Hill

Travis Kelce

and of course

Patrick Mahomes II


Everyone else is what can you do for me lately .

I would also like to ad Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith because they are beastly men

I can always ad a few but I prefer Draft picks over FA mercenaries because they show no loyalty.

Even in 5 or 6 years who knows if he starts losing his speed he will still be one of the top WR in the league and he is a baller.

Your wish WILL come true !! Andy ain't stupid.

Nah, he won't lose his speed/quickness in 5 to 6 yrs. He Darryl Green blessed !!

I'd just quit my job and see if the Jags are hiring.

Man I want absolutely no part of having to make that decision. With Jones I was truly ambivalent - I just didn't care. I could flip a coin and either approach left me satisfied.

With Hill it's the exact opposite - I actively hate having to make that decision. Flip a coin and however it lands I'm just going to be pissed.

So yeah - I quit. I'm going to get a gig on Monday Night Football saying stupid shit on the sidelines.

Sign him. Now. Never an easier decision.

You pay him. You're god damn morons if you don't.

He signed a team friendly deal, so now its time for him to get paid.

He produces results, plays hard, doesn't complain, is tough ... pay the man!

Don't sign him and he will be on the next Super Bowl team. Same with Kelce. Same with Mahomes oh yea we already have him locked down.

People on this board talk out of both sides of their mouth. They claim they want to draft and develop but then turn the other cheek and want to consider trading this dude. Pay your homegrown players who have given their blood sweat and tears to this franchise. Tyreek is 28 years old and in flawless shape. He has shown ZERO signs pf slowing down. Pay the man his damn $.

It's damn rare that a skill position player on his 2nd contract works out.

If we do nothing at all, Tyreek Hill will have made $60 million from this organization before his 29th birthday. We've already paid our homegrown player.

The question is whether we want to pay him again. And if there's any possibility you're paying him for what he's done rather than what he'll do, the answer is no.

It's not as simple as you're making it. The Chiefs have set Hill up for life - any 'moral dilemma' has since been resolved. He's a wealthy man and Clark Hunt signed every last one of those checks.

So now the question becomes if you think you'll get commensurate value for the checks he wants you to write him going forward. If that answer is no, then you don't continue to write them. Especially if part of that calculus is what you lose in terms of picks and cap capital by paying him instead of trading him.

Nobody's talking out of both sides of their mouth here. Nobody in this organization has been done wrong by the Chiefs.

But hard decisions oftentimes must be made.

Just ****ing sign him. Dude isn't dropping off.

If there's a good gamble to be made in this regard, it's absolutely Tyreek Hill.

The guy is just a unicorn.

I mean if the answer ends up being "We're paying Mahomes, Hill and Kelce until they can't do it anymore and in the meantime everyone else is pretty much expendable..." I'd understand the approach.

The risk would terrify me and the 'brave new world' of $28 million WRs is not one I'm accustomed to. But if anyone's worth gambling on there, the guy who simply moves in ways human beings do not move is probably the one spin the wheel with.

You absolutely extend Hill he's a generational talent

JFC man outside of quarterbacks you can make a genuine argument he is a top 5 player in the game. He was just ranked inside the top ten of NFL top 100. You dont let players like that walk. He is 28 not 33. Pristine shape for a 28 year old I might add. Zero significant injury history that would impact his longevity.

You give the best wide receiver in the history of your franchise the benefit of the doubt if the decision isnt crystal clear one way or the other. Period. Go to battle with your guys

When Tyreek retires he’ll be right up there with Jerry Rice and Randy Moss. I want him to go to the HOF as a CHIEF.

Might get grief for saying this, but until proven otherwise I don't have a lot of faith in Veach to adequately find offensive skill positions, seeing as how so far he's added a gadget #3 WR in the 2nd round and an undersized subpar RB in the first round.

Trading Tyreek when the chances of anyone coming close to filling the massive hole he'd leave behind would be insane. The depth at WR is already nonexistent WITH Tyreek, trade him and it gets even worse.

I want to keep him forever and give him a special preference for having a unique ability and impact on the game far and above his annual yardage numbers, but I'm actually surprised he and Adams numbers don't hold up as well against say Michael Thomas or Julio Jones career stats.

Would not surprise me whatsoever if Tyreek is playing at an extremely high level well into his mid 30s. Guy is a physical freak. If he loses a step or two he will run a 4.3 or 4.4 instead of a 4.2. He makes up for that with experience and unparalleled trust and chemistry with Mahomes.

I agree with pretty much everyone else. He changes how defenses have to play us, so his impact goes beyond his stats.

I'm not sure any other non-quarterback in the league dominates defensive game planning as much as Tyreek.

The silence on an extension for Hill worries me. He wouldn't restructure last year to give the team some more cap room. Is he playing to be a free agent and get paid like Adam's?

That 6-year stretch where Julio average about 110 catches for 1,550 yards/season man...I mean - good lord.

Julio's best 6 years: 2014-19, 92 games, 623 receptions, 9388 yards

Megatron's best 6: 2010-2015, 90 games, 538 receptions, 8548 yards

Moss's best 6 year run: 1998-2003, 96 games, 525 receptions, 8375 yards

Rice: 1990-1995, 96 games, 596 receptions, 8759 yards

Marvin Harrison: 1999-2004, 95 games, 649 receptions, 8707 yards

I don't think receiver in NFL history has had a span as thoroughly dominant as Julio did at his apex. No, Tyreek Hill doesn't stand up to Julio Jones because good lord, who does?

It's just a completely absurd run. Truly amazing players like Randy Moss have 1st ballot HOF careers and break 1,500 yards in a season once. Over a 6 year stretch Julio Jones averaged that many. It's just unheard of.

Exactly this. But if Mahomes is still great at 43 he can go to another team. Just not the Raiders.

It’s tough.

In one hand, you have a HOF WR in his prime that has done every single thing right since you drafted him. He has great chemistry with the team and is invaluable in many ways past the stat sheet.

In the other hand, getting a first and second round pick AND 28 million in cap space (minus the cost of cap space to the rookie contracts) to go sign someone else would also give the team enough resources to improve massively, as well.

losing Tyreek wouldn't improve the team in any way unless you absolutely hit home runs and draft 2 hall of fame players with those picks. Pretty unlikely.

I would keep Tyreek Hill if you can.

It was very telling that the Green Bay Packers offered the same contract money to Adams.

The Packers knew what they had in Adams and wanted to keep him rather than take the 1st and 2nd round draft picks.

I started to bring in a list of all of the failed WRs that have been drafted lately but did not want to make your eyeballs roll into the back of your head.

Packers could not work out a contract that worked but if we can keep Tyreek Hill, we should.

1. First try to work out contract.
2. Tag him next year if needed.
3. Lastly, If Tyreek does not want to stay, work out trade.

I have a feeling a deal gets done in the next 48 hours now that Adams is signed. Veach and Tyreeks reps have been intensely talking for weeks. This number won’t be a surprise, just clarification.

Make it a 5 year extension with trapdoors and cookie jars, though.

Not trying to give you grief but gotta give credit to Vemerch. Look what he did with the offensive line now it's going be one of if not the most dominate lines since Dick Vermiel was in Kansas City. He has to work numbers to keep everyone happy and under the cap that's his job and get play makers and Dlineman a bunch but we haven't had the draft yet and we have talent. They need bring in someone to compete if not take over #2 but I think and most will disagree that Hardman is a viable candidate and I'm ok with people disagreeing with me. Why would it be so hard for Brett Veach who in one year flipped the defense so it was good enough to win us a Super Bowl then when the offensive line was completely dismantled mostly because of injuries he flipped that in an off season but wohas me he wont find a decent #2 WR or more competition

Also those hating on CEH look at his rookie year he ****ing kicked ass and that was the position most desired and he had gall bladder surgery in the offseason so he came to camp under weight but I've seen him kick ass and boys CEH is our guy but we will find another RB.


My God. It's not like Verch isn't paying attention to the the division but he isn't going panic or make knee jerk decisions because of it. Give the man time to do his job but bitching and moaning because we haven't signed this guy or that guy it's because he has to work the Cap to make deals work in favor of the Chiefs not this year but for a dynasty to build upon. We got our Super Bowl we've been knocking back at that door. Yea of little faith. We will come out on top like we have last 6 years and we are still Vegas favorites to win it all.

Until we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs we have nothing to bitch about because this team under Andy Reid has shown resilience time and time again making come backs just like last year being last place the sky was falling and we won the division and hosted AFCCG .

This place is too much i tell ya. Haven't had the draft. The rest of the AFC West blew their wad premature ejaculation and those guys won't have draft stock and those GMs are going have to figure out how to pay the older vets they traded for. Why panic. I'm upset we let Ward go but I'm not fretting about it.

Oh Clyde Edwards-Helaire is going beast behind this line mark my words.

Somehow I think Patrick Mahomes would adjust enough to make the offense at least adequate. You know, the all-time great quarterback who inspired your handle?

RUN DEEP!!
That's my preference for his future.

HELL YOOO!

There is literally no player in the league like either Kelce or Hill. That’s y they’re worth the money.

you'd actually have the 2 picks AND the 28m avv per year to spend to replace him though, so that makes it much easier.

No way in hell you can't sign him, he is a great WR and if you don't someone else will. If I remember correctly, the Chiefs got a bargain with him on his last contract because of the legal issues. He has been out of the news for the wrong reasons and is gonna get paid.

Yall better pay him now he is going to be more expensive when yall have to get in a bidding war for his services.

Words of wisdom

I'd prefer you traded him of course.

I love Hill. It's just so rare to find someone with his speed, acceleration, and body control. Plus his conditioning appears to be insane and I love his energy on and off the field.

I'd like to think he will age gracefully. If you look at other guys with legendary speed like Darrell Green and Deion Sanders, they maintained elite speed well into their 30s. Hell, even burners a notch below like Desean Jackson were lethal deep threats beyond the age of 30. Barring injury, Hill shouldn't be much different.

I'm holding out hope that the team can sign him for something we can stomach, because an average of $28m/year is a tough sell for any non-QB.

^^^ What he said

Work it out, he isn't going to be ANY cheaper the longer it takes. In 3-4 years, it'll look cheap what with the way things are going. Please.

Make Saint Patty restructure

Well tbf, this would CREATE cap space, so there's that. At least for a while.

Damn they should have made him sign that 4 yr $82 mil contract!

We don't want to do any restructuring with Patrick's contract, because that just makes his future cap hits incredibly insane

Hills money will have to come from somewhere unless you want to cut another star and weaken your team. Hill will get north of 25 million per year

Lock him down. Period. The guy affects entire defenses, sees double teams all the time and still puts up amazing numbers.

Pay the man. He and Mahomes will be lethal for years.

Let him go; he was directly responsible for three turnovers in four of the losses; a big drop at the end of the first half in the first Bengals game, fumble in the Chargers game, tipped pass against the Bills and tipped pass at the end of the second Bengals game.

I understand that this won't be a popular opinion however I see teams with big and fast receivers that can go up and make plays against other players. He has a tendency to tip balls up, fumble and drop passes that hit him in the hands.

You never would have been there to begin with without him. He is a helluva player

Unless Tyreek signed that 4-year, 85 million dollar extension Clay's best friend spewed about on Twatter, there's no way he's coming in under $30m per when he does sign. And at that rate, you really have to question the resources you're pumping into some positions. He's a phenomenal talent, no doubt about that, but you could likely have two really good talents for that price. Pat's a good enough QB to function without Hill. I'm not saying function with a bunch of D-Robs running around, but give him a couple of starting-caliber NFL receivers and he should be just fine.

Sign long term as soon as possible. Doubtful that happens though. He knows his market and that it would be in his best interests to wait.

Trade him and if it’s not good compensation, the tag him and use him up then trade him away

Damn. Wasn’t even an option in the poll to trade him this offseason.

Sucks to see him go, but the draft will be fun and I’m sure we have something in the works for the additional cap space, especially after restructuring the Thuney bonus.

Glad this record exists!!

I voted trade him, and y'all did! Awesome.

This proved to be a prophetic post

Nothing like using synergy to make a generational talent at QB 'should be fine.'

Other option: trade him to the Dolphins for a buttload of picks, welcome him back for cheap in 3 years after he flames out in Miami, win a couple more SBs with Mahomes->Tyreek magic.

I said keep him and pay him so they would be in cap hell for the next 10 years but your choice is better because you can't really replace him... Ruggs could have been similar, small, fast etc but he is gonna be busy a while

Now that he's not a Chief, I think I can say it: Prison.

Man reading back through this is depressing

After the Adams stuff break, this wet into my head that it’s a possible and maybe probable outcome. Wanted to see where fans stood.

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