Where do the Chiefs stand in the Division?
 

This hurts.

We're clearly behind LA now and probably even with Denver and Vegas.

Hopefully we make the playoffs next year. This blows.

Kill yourself ASAP

They'll probably have to move to the NFCE, tbh

Bump this thread in about 90 days. RN nobody knows.

Right now 3rd. Our roster is lacking bad.

People viciously attacked me. My characterization of the Chiefs as the cast of Entourage was on point.

A middle of the pack to lower TEAM with a cheat code at QB.

But that's what fans clamored for, because building a TEAM fell short.

Well, it's inarguably that now. . . . Vinny Chase and a shitload of Turtles ubering it around. . . Hope Medillin is a BLOCKBUSTER!!

LOL - step away from the ledge. It’s going to be ok

Lol I just watched entourage last night.

Rebuilding year. It sucks that Kelce will be 33 next season and we will have a huge hole at TE soon in addition to all the other holes on this team.

Douchebag still slurping Alex Smith

FFS. LMAO

Right now? The Chiefs may have the worst team in the division on paper.

Good thing the season doesn't start right now.

**** you!!! **** off and DIE!!

Alex isn't anywhere near this discussion. This is about the TEAM you put around a franchise QB, which is a load of mediocrity for the Chiefs.

But I understand, when you don't have a rebuttal, change the subject.

Judging KC before it spends a bunch more money or uses its ton of draft picks is like judging Denver before Russ or the Raiders before Adams. Like grading someone's test after they've answered half the questions in half the time limit.

So what's the ****ing point?

God, 2022 social media/hot take/whatever society is pure cancer.

We'll still crush Vegas, but at best split with the other two. Likely to get beat a lot next year.

I'm surprised your keyboard works with all that drool on it.

Seriously, go ****ing find a team to root for that doesn't pay the most important position in all of sports stupid money because they don't have generational talent at the position... but tHeY cAn BuIlD a CoMpLeTe TeAm!

They won't win any SBs, as demonstrated by fifty ****ing years of that strategy, but hey...

THIS - can we, at the very least, wait until training camp starts and see who is on the roster before we start kicking dirt on the Chiefs Coffin? I’m going to go ahead and trust the guys inside this Franchise that have won a SB been to another, as well as 4 straight AFGCG’s.

That SB they won came off; that QB, a RB who is gone and replaced with shit-all and a miraculous bacon-saving play to the WR who is gone and replaced with shit-all.

Tyreek saved our shit every bit as much as Mahomes has over every bit of the run of success [Ravens game, Browns game, Bills playoff game, SB, . . a whole lot of '**** it, Tyreek down there somewhere.']. And when Mahomes and Tyreek and Kelce weren't dragging that shit out of the fire, the rest of the team with a bundle of mediocrity with periods of near historic incompetence. . . . This defense SET all-time records for ineptitude last year, and we kept the biggest anchor in Clark and jettisoned out biggest safety valve in Tyreek.

Oh, and where is the expiration date on the tired and insulting 'herp, derp, fINd AnoTHer TEAm if yoU'Re disAPPOINTed' bullshit, because apparently OVER 30 effing YEARS of steadfast fandom is insufficient for your standards.

So let's shut down the forum until then.

I don't get why it's bad to judge how a season or off season is going SO FAR. And people only say this when an off season is going bad. If the chiefs had been having a good off season, no one would be like "Can't judge the moves now. Just wait until training camp, they could **** it up between now and then."

Yeah, and they were one OT possession away from another SB appearance.

I'm not putting on rose colored glasses for the trade... of course it sucks and it's probably the last thing the Chiefs wanted to do this offseason.

I'll personally take the trade off of winning a SB and being in the conversation most years over winning 10 or 11 games and then hoping in one hand and shitting in the other to see which one fills up first.

I'd much rather see this kind of tough decision than deciding which OT to take in this year's draft.

Your whole hyperbole shtick of being viciously attacked is just so ****ing old because you're no more right today than you have been ever on the topic.... if the recent past isn't good enough, then stop watching football or watch another team.

The constant impending doom on this board for the unknowns of the future makes this fanbase look so ****ing stupid.... yeah, today sucks. Can we maybe not extrapolate every second of the day into the infinite future like it's already written in stone, for apparently the sake of wanting to constantly have something to bitch about?

I dunno, just a thought.

Talk all you want - that’s why the forum exists. All I said is maybe let’s not bury the Chiefs until we know what we get in return for all of this.

It's March folks.. grab a beer and relax LOL.

I said it in a previous thread and I’ll say it again, this place has gone from one extreme to the next in a matter of 4 years. From expecting the absolute worst “because Chiefs” to basically 80% of us thinking the front office is infallible and we’re absolutely invincible as a franchise because we have a great QB.

Well guess what? Any last thread of magic this organization had is gone with this trade. They absolutely were not expecting it and have no plan to replace the most dynamic playmaker in football. There’s no magic fix out there. To pretend losing Tyreek Hill out of nowhere is just no big deal and you’re a moron to question otherwise is just plain ridiculous.

We’re almost to the NFL draft and this team has gotten drastically worse. Not just a little, a lot. Every other team in our division has gotten drastically better. Not just a little, a lot. Like it or not, we’re in serious trouble as it stands right now. Nobody we draft with our late first round picks is going to change that.

Whatever, we had a nice run and I’m sure (at least I hope) there will be more to come under Pat. However, there is no guarantee of that. Ask the Seahawks, or the Packers, or the Saints, or the Falcons. It’s not that goddamn easy. It’s just not.

This is where I'm at too.

The return is simply not enough.

Tyreek is a unicorn. One of one. Brett let himself get fleeced here. His skill set should've demanded multiple 1sts.

I really don't understand what the plan is.

For YEARS I would get defensive at the whole "some people won't ever be happy!" because it was typically said when they Chiefs were 3-0 or during some other meaningless regular season streak.

Why don't we wait until the Chiefs actually win something important before we say some people are completely incapable of being happy.








Some people are completely incapable of being happy.

wHy Don'T you QuIT roOTInG for SPurtS, then!! If that's how you feel.

they'll be 6th in the div, that's how bad they now are.

Wait.... The team that didn't make the playoffs last year is now possibly #1.

Aren't the Chargers #1 about this time of the year every year?

right now? probably 3rd.

By September? First or second.

By January? First, and all you crybabies will act like you knew it all along.

Why should people be happy about trading Hill?

This bugs the hell out of me about this place.

Not everyone needs to be happy about every single thing. Not every move is good.

I get that were all homers here but it's OK if people are pissed off about this move. It's highly questionable to say the least.

when you're standing alongside DTVietnam and Como, you should probably take a look at yourself.

Something bad happens ≠ the worst will continue to happen forever

Because Mahomes. In Veach We Trust. You know, things like that.

Losing the most explosive playmaker in football would be a big deal to most teams, but not your mighty and invincible Chiefs! :rolleyes:

At the top until someone proves otherwise.

lol, but you and several others are weeping vaginas about EVERYTHING.

It has nothing to do with rose colored glasses and everything to do with how people go full reerun about every little thing that happens and extrapolates it into the worst possible future..... some people are actually capable of accepting bad things happen and even being angry about those things without being a ****ing reerun about it.

I was told for decades my satisfaction with signs of quality play or cohesion or improvement or . . . whatever sports is about, was a stain on my worth as a fan, because everything short of SBs is utter failure . . . So I tried to accommodate these standards, and now that we see how hard a SB is, I'm now being told that expecting SBs 'all the time' is utter failure and a stain on my fandom as well.

I have utter faith in Mahomes. I had utter faith in Tyreek and Kelce. I said regularly if I was starting a franchise from scratch, I'd take Mahomes and Tyreek before even Reid, Veach, Arrowhead, KC, or any other aspect/characteristic/touchstone of a franchise property. I meant that.

Reid and Veach and Spags have NOT earned that blind trust, not with the failures that have been interspersed with our successes, and not with Mahomes and Tyreek clouding objective assessment of the franchise as a whole with shit-saving theatrics.

This isn't Bilichek molding a dynasty to the personnel on-hand with creativity and flexibility. Time will tell if they eventually demonstrate their own form of genius and creativity OUTSIDE of drafting a generational QB.

It will be interesting to see what develops over the next few years, but this was supposed to be the window where we TAKE ADVANTAGE of a young generational QB on the roster, not rebuild to make up for mistakes and failures already apparent.

Short term... I think KC is no longer a 'no brainer' pick to win the division this season. Long term ... could really set this team up incredibly well if the right picks are made.

Mahomes can win with anyone, so they'll maintain double digit wins... but, it's a much harder road until they replace Hill with a high caliber dude.

Seems like you listened to some morons, so that's unfortunate.

1. Chargers
2. Raiders
3. KC
4. Donx
That's how I see it now. Trading Reek was foolish. Varch is full of himself on this one. Sorry, just no silver lining for me. Hill was the best game-changer in the league. Now gone. You don't replace that.

Because SB, . . .

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No guarantees just cuz you have the draft pick. Trade normal good players in their prime, not future HOF'ers. Dumb trade..

Yeah, listening to other people's advice on the quality of your fandom is probably full-on rerunned [though it apparently doesn't stop anyone from OFFERING IT, . . . /cough], . . but it's kind of the raison d'etre of this board's existence.


Time to close shop. Fan how you want at home alone.

Bearcat will mail out quarterly newsletters on proper fandom that you would be directly advised by him to ignore.

The Chargers don't play a home game all season. How are they winning the division unless their talent far outweighs the other teams?

Chargers aren’t winning shit because they’re still the Chargers. They will find a way to screw up because it’s impossible for them not to.

I mean unless you are a Chiefs homer, the odds the Chiefs win the division are certainly below 50%. They may be ON PAR with the Broncos or just below.

It's possible no team in the division has a good chance to win it just based on how good every team is.

Broncos 35%
Chiefs 30%
Chargers 25%
Raiders 10%

That’s literally the perfect way to phrase it. There’s no favorite right now. It’s going to be a goddamn bloodbath.

Chiefs have the best QB, best head coach, best TE, best OL, best front office and best ownership in the division. We will be fine.

Oh, don't let me get in the way... by all means, if you want to soapbox every Chiefs move based off a 90s way of how to win in the NFL, or generally be a miserable "because Chiefs" type of fan, sweet.

You have every right to continue to show your ass and be wrong, nothing needed from me.

Apologies for offering an easy way to be less miserable, my bad. Continue wallowing.

I’ll say 3rd. Ju ju is our top receiver and he don’t even know the playbook. Takes a year and half to learn it!

You been paying attention to their off season moves this far? They have talent.

1st

Man the chiefs have been decimated!

Nah man trading a face of the franchise and the best WR is a good thing when the AFC west is literally the best it’s ever been and Tyreek hill a freak of nature. can’t you just have blind faith in those picks and see how stupid you are?/s

3rd right now

we have a shit defense, a bunch of average weapons on offense, aging kelce and mahomes

we're pretty ****ed as it stands

Exactly!!(

Chiefsplanet jumps off bridge...welp the bandwagon is easier to pull I guess.

OMG lol it's the ****ing internet. Go outside and cry about it, you pussy.

They still have the best QB, the best coach, the best TE, and the best OL in the division with a ton of draft capital.

But feel free to panic.

Where do the Chiefs stand in the Division?
 

The season doesn’t start until September though. Plenty of time to get players.


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We're about to be the 2002 Chiefs, perennially, unless Veach nails his picks on defense.

That's insane. There are already multiple guys on the defense right now that are better than anyone on the 2002 Chiefs defense, and Mahomes is just a touch better than Trent Green.

LMAO

This offense will substantially worse than that offense.

You're probably looking at a .500 team this year.

Reid went 9-7 without a TD being thrown to a WR

I think Andy realized what happened when Denver traded for Wilson and he was like "holy shitballs... I gotta rebuild now, use the excuse that the division is better and rebuild now".








LMAO

Archiving, for the next time the biggest weepy-titty-baby on CP starts weeping about something again eventually.

And FTR, I'm not 'crying' about the attacks of the past. But I am pointing out how wrong they were in their assessment, and how hypocritically many of them have shifted metrics now that it's not all sunshine and roses in their paradigm.

Is it in alphabetical order ATM or?

You wanna seek a trade to Miami too ?

Could send you to the Raiders orDonks?

Oh yeah?!?! What's Wilson's record against Mahomes?!?!

ROFL ROFL

In a crap division . . .

Holy Shit, it’s Bart Scott

With a top 5 defense.

We are about to witness one of the most disappointing, "meh" teams of the Reid era.

You will all be checked out by November.

Last in the division on paper today. Season doesn’t start today.

The ironic part is that it IS sunshine and roses... everyone knows how a salary cap works and that if you pay your amazing QB stupid money, you can't pay other guys stupid money as well.

And every time you point out the apparent dumpster fire that is the Chiefs overall team, I point out the AFCCGs and SB appearances and SB win.

Nobody worth reading ever said the Chiefs would win every SB until Mahomes retires or there wouldn't be struggled to resign players, etc... none of that was ever a thing, and another ironic thing is it's actually you moving the goalposts due to your way of exaggerating things to impossible extremes.

The whole reason you give a franchise QB stupid money is because you want to be part of the SB conversion most years... and they've done that every year so far.

This IS the sunshine and roses, which doesn't mean there won't be shitty days... if you can't enjoy this ride despite not winning the SB every year, that doesn't make other people wrong, it just makes you miserable.

NFL is a QB league. So 1st until proven otherwise. It's a big loss. But not crippling.

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We're steering into the skid of all of our coaching staff's shortcomings.

Turnover on D, holding onto high-priced disappointments.
Losing weapons on O because they were high-priced too.
Run blocking talent to maul, but no impulse to run the ball.

Now our biggest weapon outside QB is also our oldest weapon with the most miles.

Best scenario, they've learned from their past and have a plan to do everything over, except right.

Good ****ing God. This is probably the best deal for Chiefs especially for making it a Dynasty with Patrick. We vastly needed the youth movement and it's going to pay off.


How'd the Herschel Walker deal turn out for the Cowboys? This is going pay off and we can get rid of high cost FA and we can develop our own guys and if they want to leave well ~ bye


I hate to use the Patriots but this is exactly what Bill Bilichick would do because he wasn't going over pay someone and he would develop talent in the draft playing them during the season getting them ready for playoffs.

Yes initially it stings to lose a caliber WR like Tyreek Hill but he actually cost us some games because he is short and tipped balls that hand gifted interceptions. I still love him but he isn't going be a threat to us going to Miami holy shit what a stinker organization and he isn't going be happy not having a quarterback that gets him the ball in timing.

Tyreek production will go down in Miami. Chiefs have opportunity to get a stud WR and revamp our Defensive line and that includes a pass rusher.

I'm ****ing stoked for the picks we get. Hate to see Tyreek leave but I'm into winning championships and want guys who want to be here to be apart of that.

I think it's career suicide for Tyreek but this is good for Chiefs we can have cap money to negotiate with Orlando Brown and I think Chiefs value Orlando Brown more than Tyreek because it's a lot harder find a mauler stud LT like Orlando Brown than a nifty WR.


Youth gone wild is going be the theme of this team. Our division rivals all got old and desperate and gave up much draft stock so they are going have to pay those over priced FA or trades they got. I just don't see this being a down year Patick is too competitive and under Andy Reid when have we had a losing season? I think it's been a while. 5th most winning-est coach and the only active Coach that has more wins is Bill*Billichick.


**** THEY DOUBTERS WE GOT THIS WE WILL STILL COME OUT ON TOP

Our offensive line is going blow defenses up. I can't wait for Trey Smith pancake K Mack it's going happen and it's going be glorious.

Why am I not surprised #reerunedcomochiefsfan started this thread. What a reeruned pussy