Chiefs looking into Laviska Shenault
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are inquiring about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jags?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jags</a> WR Laviska Shenault, per sources. <br><br>Shenault, 23, was a 2nd-rd pick in 2020 and has plenty of fans throughout the league. One HC told me: “That kid’s a baller. We loved him in the draft. … Only a matter of time before he really pops.”</p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1506835727560032259?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I wonder what a potential deal would look like…can’t imagine Jax is under any pressure to deal him.

I’d give a 2nd or 3rd for him. Would that get it done?

Get them all! We have money now!

Dumbasses gonna pay out the ass to acquire a WR via trade now. Veach BLOWS.

Yeah but it’s horrible value. I’d send them a 4th.

They signed multiple receivers to large contracts so good chance he’s underutilized there this year.

Hopefully he fixed his hands

3rd + 4th would be alright

would really like to grab him without having to spend a 2nd.

No way.

I don’t trust this guy. He’s been wrong about a lot of shit, and he kind of popped out of nowhere.

With that said, this would make sense.

i mean if he comes cheaper, great.

Maybe a 4th and throw in a few of our 7th rounders if needed.

The guys we would draft in the 7th are likely cuts or could be UDFAs.

Every WR in the NFL will now be linked to the Chiefs. At least until the next blockbuster trade or other big NFL story. Let's get those clicks! :)

I don't really know anything about him other than he's been a disappointment so far. If Reid/Mahomes like him then throw a midround at him otherwise, I'd rather go to the draft or swing harder.

Can you shut the **** up and be reasonable until we actually do some corresponding moves you dislike?

I don't need you yelling at clouds, TEX. Stop being such a child.

You must be fun at parties.

#30 and maybe a 4th for the Jags #33 and Shenault?

He’s at least got 100k followers and a blue check mark.

Nope.

He’s no BJ Hardick from Buttcrack Sports, but he’ll do.

ROFLROFL

I like this kid. Hard to shine in Jax and he has all the skills to succeed.

No doubt, just an observation.

Chiefs longest tenured WR right now is Gehrig Dieter

I get it. I’m hoping this shit is true as long as it’s not more than a 4th rounder.

Or later... We do have quite a few receivers that didn't get time because of what we were paying...

Or some kind of swap of picks where the Chiefs still end up with the same number of picks. #50 for the #65 and Shenault?

Jacksonville has Kirk, a 32 year old Marvin Jones and no one else at WR.

Why would they trade a young WR with promise who is on a cheap rookie contract?

They also paid Zay Jones $30 million and Shenault wasn’t drafted by Pederson. Hell he wasn’t even drafted by Meyer.

Calling it now won't happen til Dj & Franchise cum 4 us. Those are the rules I didn't make them

Luckily I’m free tonight. I’ll get mine taken care of.

I trust Nate and he said it on the radio. Nate retweeted this btw

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Heard <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a> bring this up today on <a href="https://twitter.com/610SportsKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@610SportsKC</a> <a href="https://t.co/4bb4BJ9XSa">https://t.co/4bb4BJ9XSa</a></p>&mdash; Dusty Likins (@DustyLikins) <a href="https://twitter.com/DustyLikins/status/1506837216722620417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, abate is very reliable

I'm a Shenault guy, I loved him that draft year.

Here’s Nate Taylor’s interview today with the details

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a> joined <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheDrive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheDrive</a> to discuss the trade of Tyreek Hill and what is next for the Chiefs. <br><br>LISTEN: <a href="https://t.co/zVOMR2RZ0U">https://t.co/zVOMR2RZ0U</a> <a href="https://t.co/X5yvmNn5Ai">pic.twitter.com/X5yvmNn5Ai</a></p>&mdash; 610SportsKC (@610SportsKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/610SportsKC/status/1506787629311922180?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’m good with a 4th. I really like him and think his skill set fits perfectly in KC.

That would be a great name to have if mushing a sled dog team in the Iditarod.

I’d be stoked if they pulled off a trade for the guy.

Looking back at the 2020 draft class I remember a lot of people, myself included, thought Shenault at 32 would be a perfect fit for us at the time. Talent is very clearly still there and it's not like he came into the league and turned into a pumpkin. Dude averaged near 600 yards a season while surviving Urban Meyer's fun house. His only real gripe has been his hands and that issue only presented itself during that dysfunctional season.

This really has 'Veach reclamation project' written all over it. Anything at a 3rd or under would be insane value. Especially with how many picks we have this year.

35:40 is where he talks about him.

Know little about him but seems like he’d be a poor man’s Deebo Samuel.

He would be more of a Sammie Watkins type

Send them the dolphin 2023 4th round pick.

Freaking knew it!

I agree. There is no one in the FA market or draft that can make up Hill's contributions this season. But if you have enough quality receivers, the production won't drop off.

The word on Shenault this past season was always that he was being used improperly in the offense. He's a big body, physical player who's more of a west coast offense fit. Kind of like Schuster. Obviously the Meyer Jaguars were a circus but he doesn't seem like a Pederson guy that much either.

OBJ, but best case scenario is November for him. That's it, but, depending on filling the voids at WR, this could be good for the offense and Mahomes. At times, I think they leaned way too hard on Hill/Kelce and the offense seemed to sputter.

Why would a guy that was drafted in the second round with 4 years of team control then underperformed his draft status still be worth a 2nd rounder with 2 years of team control?

Might take Miami’s 4th, but I wouldn’t expect him to cost more than that to acquire.

Wife and kids are headed to Texas for a week on Saturday.

Expect a flurry of activity then…

Pairing Shenault with Smith-Schuster would be a nice zig for the Chiefs.

You’ve got all these teams in the West and league at large loading up on pass rushers and DBs and moving to nickel or dime sets as big down percentage packages and playing 2 deep safeties in anticipation of the Chiefs taking lots of deep shots.

So what’s a great counter to that? Big, physical receivers who can catch short passes and break tackles when those S come flying upfield.

You always need a speed element, and I think the Chiefs will have that. But this a move that makes a lot of sense, and he’s WR4 in Jacksonville.

I really like Laviska... think he brings more than JuJu. I'd like to see him not find his way to KC.

Yes, please. Either the 94 or 62.

Don't give a damn. Get it done.

For a fourth? Sure. Anything higher? nah, I'll just draft one.

Agree with this one here.

All about what the Jaguars ask for in return.

I was watching something yesterday and I can’t remember who it was but they were spitballing ideas on who to try and get now and the person threw out McCaffrey…

Their logic was well if the entire West and AFC to a degree is going to load up on edge rushers, get a “weapon” you can line up in various positions and take advantage of slow and bad LB corps and interior guys…there’s your mismatch and a way to nullify the bevy of edge guys.

Now I’m not saying do that trade or anything but it def. got me thinking and I’m intrigued by that offensive strategy…

The guy has produced pretty well on shitbag team with shitbag QBs. Sure, why not.

Bring in all the players.

I could probably be talked into a 3rd.

-You're not finding a WR in the 3rd that's getting meaningful time on the field in Season 1, maybe even season 2.

-He has the two learning curve years behind him and is going into the typical breakout season for a WR.

Really depends on if they want to be competitive this year, or just accept the down year and build for the future with picks.

At 23 years old, I feel like LS accomplishes both (win now and future)

No, this is how you lose value in a trade like we just made.

I think this is it. We’re changing our offense to counter the new defensive schemes they’re throwing at us. Playing Chess!

103 is about as high as Id go….and then I’d want a 5th or 6th back from the Jags since we don’t have one.

Yep.

Then Calvin Austin to zip around and do fast guy making speed cuts shit.

This can still be a 30 PPG offense.

And with just a couple of pretty makeable moves, it will be.

Get excited guys - this shit gwon be fun.

Nah. They can have #135.

You can draft Calvin Austin at #103, and I'd rather do that.

It wouldn’t be the greatest group of weapons out there but if you had a WR room that consisted of:

Juju
Shenault
Hardman
Rookie
MVS

You’d at least have options and I think that’s how Reid is seeing this transition. We’ve had an offense that had a top 3 WR and the best TE in the league….and defenses figured out how to put clamps on that. Why not load it with good to very good weapons and see how they try and cover everyone.

In this draft I think you can.

Either one of two things - someone who can really make a contribution in year 1 (say Alec Pierce) or someone who MIGHT be able to make a contribution but could ascent do legit WR2 status as early as 2023 (say Jalen Tolbert).

Now none of those are a given at the end of the 3rd, but they're a possibility.

And then there's my new favorite draft crust, Calvin Austin, who will do both of those things. Because he's a badass.

You forgot Gordon lol

No I didn’t. Lol

Gordon and Coleman aren’t making it out of camp.

This would be a good pickup if we can get him for the right price.

Lot of untapped potential there.

Would love to see what Reid and the other coaches could scheme up for him . . . . .

I just think it's a big ask. Pretty rare that a WR outside the first 15-20 makes an immediate impact, much less after 90.

If Nate Taylor is right, Andy plans on JuJu in the slot - which means our WR1 at the moment is Hardman, LOL.

Hell, we have enough picks that I'd be ok trading for TWO active WR's if we could.

That's not true. Plenty of great receivers come in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds.

Tons of busts in that first round, too.

And this is an unusual draft, because of Covid. Lots of guys that would've come out last year waited a year, which makes the draft that much deeper.

Reid’s offense isn’t like other teams offenses though. We aren’t sure that a rookie WR can step in outside of Hardman. And Hardman wasn’t out here running the entire playbook.

We were also fairly top heavy with Kelce and Hill being the only real threats. You can double two extremely good players, but you can't double four really good players. It forces defenses to play us much differently. Combine all of that with the financials and the issues issues we saw with hero ball, and the fact that Patrick never really missed a beat in any of the games Tyreek was out and you can see the logic in trading Tyreek.

As much as I LOVED watching Tyreek torch opposing defenses...I think this will make us better overall and definitely long-term.

I might go a 4th but no higher. Given the Jaguars wr signings, they have no plans for him. They want to move on from him. Sure he has athletic upside but he has not put it together. He was on on a shitty team but he was still really unable to even make it on the field the last two years. He looks like a 2nd round bust. A third is too valuable.

You're right, plenty of great receivers come from those rounds.

My point was, how many of them make an immediate impact?

Let's look at last year.

34 WR's taken.

3 made an immediate impact with their team: Chase, Waddle and St. Brown - and it took St. Brown 10-12 games and he had little competition for targets.

The other two were taken in the Top 6.


How about 2020?

37 WR's taken.

Outside the 1st round, Pittman arrived this year, did nothing his rookie year. (was also 2nd pick of the 2nd round)

Higgins is the Day Two/Day Three darling, he's had a great start to his career.

Claypool has been solid, yet unspectacular - also a earlier pick - mid 2nd.

Gabe Davis and Mooney showed up at times this year, but did nothing in their rookie years.

That's 5/37.

I'm looking at years beyond 2020, and the story is the same - it's extremely rare for a rookie WR drafted beyond the 1st round (and especially in the 3rd/late) to make a substantial impact Year One - and most of those guys are STILL trying to make it a year or two after being drafted.

Oh, and there are 31 other teams trying to find these needles in the haystack.

FTR, I'm fine with drafting WR's - but be prepared for a down year or two while they come up to speed. They're going to need to make a trade for a real WR if they wanna be in the mix THIS year.

Very true.

It was just a few months ago when our current WR1 couldn't get on the field and was being passed over for Byron Pringle.

They'll flip one of those picks for someone and sign another vet in FA.

Odell and Theilen for instance.

Thielen restructured his deal. He isn’t going anywhere.

And on the 610 broadcast that was posted in this thread earlier, Nate Taylor said they’re specifically looking at WRs in their 2nd-3rd year in the league.

They need someone somewhat established, but young and with some term.

Otherwise next year is gonna be a shitshow trying to fill out an entire WR corp.

Exactly who they should be looking for.