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The roster as it stands
My 2022 Game 1 roster guesses:
QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco FB - Burton WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson RT - Wylie/Christian RG - Smith/Caliendo C - Humphrey/Reiter LG - Thuney/Allegretii LT - OBJ O = 26 LDE - Karlaftis/Danna LDT - Nandi/Wharton RDT - Jones/Saunders RDE - Clark/Dunlap WLB - Bolton/Harris MLB - Gay/Carter SLB - Lee/Chenal LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson SS - Reid/Cook FS - Thornhill/Bush D = 24 ST Butker Townsend Winchester PTW- PS Crum - PS Franks - Release Ealy - Release Fleet-Davis - PS Jones - Release Gore - PS Powell - PS Gordon - Release Kinnard - PS Niang - IR Bootle - PS Key - Release Barcoo - Released Johnson - Released Anderson - PS Kaindoh - PS Just trying to keep up....makes it a little more clear to be able to see needs/wants QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buchele RB - CEH/Jones/Gore/Pacheco FB - Burton WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter WR2 - Juju/Moore/Gordon/Powell/Fountain TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson RT - Niang/Wylie/Christian/Kinnard RG - Smith C - Humphrey/Reiter LG - Thuney/Allegretti LT - OBJ/PTW LDE - Karlaftis/Danna LDT - Nandi/Wharton RDT - Jones/Saunders RDE - Clark/Kaindoh WLB - Harris/Chenal MLB - Bolton/Carter SLB - Gay/Lee LCB - Fenton/McDuffie/Bootle/Watson RCB - Sneed/Baker/Williams/Barcoo/Johnson SS - Reid/Key/Cook FS - Thornhill/Bush/Anderson Salaries in the spoilers
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Bolton is your MLB.
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Missing Reiter and Zayne Anderson
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Wylie is the starter over Niang at this point. And probably will be.
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Yea not tryin to get too crazy over depth - other than the obvious - more about who we have at what position |
I’m not even sure Niang plays at all next year.
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Need a young WR, a starting CB, a veteran DE with pass rush ability, and a young DE in the draft. Get all those and this team is better than last years team on paper.
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Man those DEs.
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Weird how removing Hill makes all the non-bolds looks meh..
QB - Mahomes/Henne RB - CEH/Jones/Gore FB - Burton WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter WR2 - Juju/Gordon/Powell/Fountain TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson |
I think Hardman, MVS, and JuJu is pretty damn exciting.
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What are the biggest needs? Maybe something like?
- 2 DEs - WR - CB - RT - DT - LB - S Not all "needs" but a lot of areas where we have both mediocrity and not loads of depth, or one or the other. |
I'd be willing to wait for Jameson Williams to get healed.
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If nothing else changed, that’s an 11 win team already.
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Bring back Fisher at RT?
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Bad roster being held up by a all world QB as of now
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Why wouldn’t Fisher be a good choice for swing tackle and compete for the starting RT spot?
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Love to see Dieter get his shot at the X Receiver this year
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Missing Geron Christian. Could be the starter at RT
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Didn't realize Gordon was still with us. Thought he got cut. |
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Then fill in the defensive blanks....CB/DE/DT/LB/S. They are definitely taking a WR in the first IMO...Veach has shown he's all about getting Mahomes top offensive talent. It's a no-brainer opportunity with this many picks. |
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SD - WR Allen/Williams/Guyton TE Everett RB Eckler LV - WR Adams/Renfrow/Edwards TE Waller RB Jacobs Den - WR Jeudy/Sutton/Patrick TE Okwuegbunam RB Williams Vegas is good till you look at the QB. Denver has a good QB and a couple of receivers SD is probably the most complete team in the division. But I'd take Kelce over any of those TE and Mahomes obvs JSS over Williams/Renfrow/Sutton Hardman/MVS over Guyton/Edwards/Patrick We lack a true #1 and a scary RB - Jones might help - but idk |
I swear.....the last time I saw so much whining and complaining here about offseason moves was the year we traded for what some said was a washed up and not that good running back from Baltimore.
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I would take Ekeler over any of our RBs and that includes Jacobs as well. Ekeler is the current day MJD who has surprised everyone! Denver's WRs WILL produce NOW because of Russell, but it will take 1/2 to a whole season to get that chemistry down though. JSS compared to Williams/Sutton is a wash for me. |
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I'm surprised more people aren't seeing trading up for a WR as a good option. I might not hate getting a DE if it's Jermain Johnson. But it feels like a priority is getting one of the top 6 and using the rest on defence.
I know we all believe Mahomes can drag a mediocre WR group to decent results - but how much do we want to test that? We KNOW this team with elite receivers is deadly even with a turd defence - and frankly the defence punched aboved its weight a fair bit the second half of last year anyway. They'll be ballers at WR in rounds 2, 3 and beyond but I'm tempted to take the guessing out as much as possible. Our DL is so bad that just about anyone we then bring in through other picks improves it imo. |
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They're obviously a lot worse than LV and LA. Denver is the closest and each of their two top WRs had more yards than all 3 of of ours despite having Lock and Bridgewater while our WRs had Mahomes and Rodgers throwing to them. They also have Jeudy who got injured but is better than all of our WRs. |
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JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 year pro 63 games 3800 yds 26 TDS M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 year pro 72 games 3600 yds 26 TDS Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 year pro 46 games 2300 yds 15 TDS Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 year pro 50 games 2700 yds 7 TDS MVS (6'4" 27 YO) 4 year pro 59 games 2200 yds 13 TDS Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 2 year pro 35 games 1000 yds 6 TDS Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 year pro 28 games 800 yds 4 TDS Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 year pro 55 games 2000 yds 12 TDS Hardman (5'10" 24 yo) 3 year pro 49 games 1800 yds 12 TDS Yeah - we don't have a true #1 YET - but I'd take our #2/#3 combo over any of the others. M Williams is pretty close but his production #'s include 9 more games than JSS. |
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JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 years 471 tgts 323 rec 68% catch M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 years 393 tgts 223 rec 56% catch Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 years 276 tgts 208 rec 75% catch Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 years 312 tgts 175 rec 56% catch MVS (6'4" 27 YO) 4 years 247 tgt 123 rec 50% catch Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 3 years 105 tgt 59 rec 56% catch Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 years 74 tgts 45 rec 60% catch Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 years 236 tgts 143 rec 58% catch Hardman (5'10" 24 yo) 3 years 186 tgts 125 rec 68% catch @ year 2 Hardman was 103 tgts 63 rec 65% catch |
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Shenault 6'1" 23 yo 2 year pro 30 games 1200 yds 5 TDS 179 tgts 121 rec 67% catch |
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JSS (6'1" 25 YO) 5 year pro 63 games 3800 yds 26 TDS M. Williams (6'4" 27 YO) 5 year pro 72 games 3600 yds 26 TDS Renfrow (5'10" 26 YO) 3 year pro 46 games 2300 yds 15 TDS Sutton (6'4" 26 YO) 4 year pro 50 games 2700 yds 7 TDS Guyton (6'1" 24 YO) 2 year pro 35 games 1000 yds 6 TDS Edwards (6'3" 23 yo) 2 year pro 28 games 800 yds 4 TDS Patrick (6'4" 28 YO) 4 year pro 55 games 2000 yds 12 TDS |
Juju lost his juju after his breakout season. MVS has blistering speed and a legit deep threat, but there’s a reason Rodgers didn’t target him much. Veach was really reaching when he signed those two. As it stands, we lack any true threats in the passing game. Gonna make it easier to contain Kelce, and our running game isn’t going to help. The elite WR in this draft won’t be available at the bottom of the 1st round. What’s Allen Robinson up to these days?
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You have lost your god dammed mind 2020 16 games 831 yds and 9 TDS 2019 12 games 552 yds and 3 TDS 2018 16 games 1426 yds and 7 TDS 201714 games 917 yds and 7 TDS |
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This team is about as deep as Paris Hilton...
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We could have two beasts inside and take our golden boy pass rusher next year after reloading depth this year with all the picks... |
I think we can address the DE in the 1st and a burner WR in the 1st or a high 2nd. I am concerned more about the secondary. Another OT would be nice since Niang probably won't be back until after the start of the season and I wonder just how far along the Prince is. With 8 picks in the 1-4 rounds, we should be able to pick up some depth. I don't think we should be spending that extra cap money like drunken sailors unless it's just 1 year deals.
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We'll likely have enough capital to field a decent offense. And Mahomes will certainly be good enough to keep it productive and on a winning track. But what we lose when we lose Hill is slack in the rope. No more https://c.tenor.com/MIS4gzwO6WMAAAAC...rlie-kelly.gif "Oh, . . . BOO HOOO!!! We're down 20 points in an important game. . . well how about [hiiiya!! Judo chop!!] - . . . 21 points in 3-4 minutes to end the half." "Enjoy your halftime deficit you worked so hard for, suckers!!" - - - Now, a 20 point deficit might be enough to bury us for good most games. So we got to hope we don't get so many of those, or even to have a game plan to get early leads instead. It's a little more than zigging, when they thought we'd zag, . . it's a paradigm shift. So now it's our duty to be hopeful they assemble something. |
Hopefully there are two badass edge rushers left at the end of the first round, at least one.
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They went from 27 to 10 for Mahomes and gave up 1st, 1st following year, and a 3rd. 2 firsts this year probably gets them 8-10. |
I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.
Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position. I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility. Offense - Quarterbacks (3/2) • 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5) • 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000) • 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA) Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida • 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500) • 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M) • Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M) • 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825) • Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705 o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State • 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M) • 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M) • 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M) • Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K) • 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K • 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K • 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K • 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K • Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K • Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K • Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K • Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K • Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M • 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M) • 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M) • 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR • 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?) • 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K • 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K • Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K • Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K • 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU • 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M) • 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year). • 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M) • 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR • 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M) • 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA) • 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M) • 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500) • Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500) • 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K • Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K • Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?) o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned |
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Defensive linemen (13/9) DE (6), DT (7) – Looking at FA DE Arden Keys. Draft (50) Cameron Thomas, San Diego State, Boye Mafe, Minnesota, Arnold Ebiketie. Penn State, Kingsley Enagbare, South Carolina, or Sam Williams Mississippi. Late Round (233) Neil Farrel Jr., LSU or Tayland Humphrey, Louisiana • 55 Frank Clark DE, Age 28, 6-3, 261, (2022 $13.7M, 2023 $28,675,000) • 51 Mike Danna DE, Age 24, 6-2, 255, (2022 $961K, 2023 $1M) • 95 Chris Jones DT, Age 27, 6-6, 298, (2022 $29.4M, 2023 $27M) • 99 Khalen Saunders DT Age 25, 6-0, 324, (2022 $1.218M) • 59 Joshua Kaindoh DE Age 23, 6-7, 262, (2022 $949K. 2023 $1.064M, 2024 $1.179M) • 70 Malik Herring DE Age 24, 6-3, 280 (2022 $833K, 2023 $949K, 2024 RFA) • 98 Tershawn Wharton DT, Age 23, 6-4, 278, (2022, $896,668, 2023 RFA) • 91 Derrick Nnadi DT, Age 25, 6-1, 317, (2022 $2.75M) • 79 Cortez Broughton DT, Age 25, 6-2, 293, Re-signed to Futures contract. $895 K • 60 Austin Edwards DE, Age 24, 6-5, 273, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K • Lorenzo Neal Jr, DT Age 24, 6-3, 325, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K • Darius Stills, DT, Age 23, 6-0, 278, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K • Jonathan Woodard, DE, Age 28, 6-5, 271, Signed to Futures contract. $895 K o 24 Melvin Ingram DE, Age 32, 6-2, 247, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned o 97 Alex Okafor DE, Age 30, 6-4, 261, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned o 90 Jarran Reed DT, Age 29, 6-3, 313, Green Bay Packers 1yr $3.25M Linebackers (6/5) Draft (62) Quay Walker, Georgia, Brandon Smith Penn State, Leo Chenal Wisconsin, Chad Muma, Wyoming, or Troy Anderson, Montana State. Later Round (243) Malcom Rodriguez, Oklahoma State • 54 Nick Bolton MLB, Age 21, 6-0, 237), (2022 $1.3M. 2023 $1.591M, 2024 $1.856M) • 50 Willie Gay Jr OLB, Age 23, 6-1, 235, (2022 $1.4M, 2023 $1.677M) • Elijah Lee LB, Age 26, 6-3, 230, (2022 $915K) • Jermaine Carter Jr LB, Age 27, 6-1, 225 1yr ? • 47 Darius Harris OLB, Age 25, 6-2, 240, Re-signed to Futures contract. $825 K • 92 Shilique Calhoun LB, Age 30, 6-5, 260, Re-signed to Futures contract. $895 o 53 Anthony Hitchens OLB, Age 29, 6-0, 231, Released, unsigned. o 56 Ben Niemann MLB, Age 26, 6-2, 233, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned o 44 Dorian O'Daniel OLB, Age 27, 6-1, 217, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned Defensive backs (11/10) Looking at FA CB Stephon Gilmore or trade for NYG CB James Bradberry Draft (30) Roger McCreary, Auburn, Kaiir Elam, Florida, or Kyler Gordon, Washington and Draft (103) S Nick Cross, Maryland , JoJo Domann, Nebraska, or Verone McKinley III Oregon • 39 Zayne Anderson FS, Age 24, 6-2, 205, (2022 $825K 2023 ERFA) • 30 Deandre Baker CB, Age 24, 5-11, 186, (2022 ERFA), Re-sign $965K • 27 Rashad Fenton CB, Age 24, 5-11, 193, (2022 $2.578M) • 38 L'Jarius Sneed CB, Age 24, 6-1, 189, (2022 $1.053M. 2023 $1.168M ) • 22 Juan Thornhill FS, Age 26, 6-0, 203, (2022 $3.134 M) • 20 Justin Reid S, Age 25, 6-1, 205, (2022 $4.55M, 2023 $12.7M, 2024 $14.25 M) • Luq Barcoo, CB, Age 24, 6-1, 180, (2022 $895K) • 2 Dicaprio Bootle CB/S, Age 24, 5-10, 182, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 • 24 Devon Key SS, Age 24, 6-0, 204, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705K • Brandin Dandridge CB, Age 25, 5-10,180, Signed to Futures contract. $705K • Deon Bush S, Age 29, 6-0,187 1yr ? • 35 Charvarius Ward CB, Age 25, 6-1, 195, San Francisco 49ers 3yr $40M • 21 Mike Hughes CB, Age 24, 5-10, 186, Detroit Lions 1yr $2.25M • 23 Armani Watts SS, Age 25, 5-11, 190, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned • 49 Daniel Sorensen FS, Age 31, 6-2, 200, New Orleans Saints 1yr • 32 Tyrann Mathieu SS, Age 29, 5-9, 190, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned • 26 Chris Lammons CB, Age 25, 5-10, 182 , (Free Agent) unsigned with legal issues Special teams (3/3) • 7 Harrison Butker K, Age 26, 6-4, 196, (2022 $4.2M. 2023 $4.4M, 2024 $3.8M) • 5 Tommy Townsend P, Age 25, 6-1, 194, (2022 $897 K, 2023 RFA) • 41 James Winchester LS, Age 32, 6-3, 242 signed extension through 2023. |
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