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The Franchise 04-01-2022 09:21 AM

WRs from a statistical analysis
 
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/articl...rofiles-part-1

Yes I know....another WR thread in the draft forum. This one is different though. Lately there has been a lot of talk about target percentages and comps to other WRs based on output and combine numbers.

I present to you.....Rotoworld's pre-draft rookie WR ranks. Let's start with an explanation.

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These rankings are fantasy football-focused and driven by statistical metrics that I'll explain throughout the profiles. These rankings also factor in expected NFL draft position. NFL draft position, and the scouting that drives it, plays a huge role in prospects' success and failure. The biggest post-draft swings in my rankings will come from draft-dependent prospects locking in high draft capital and strong analytical prospects slipping more than expected in the draft.

These profiles also include statistical comps. These comps are based on key metrics for wide receivers like career production, college breakout, and underclassman status. They also factor in height and weight, but the comps won't always be perfect stylistically. The primary purpose of the comps is to help illuminate a range of outcomes for each player and serve as a reminder that a player's prospect profile is a helpful tool in projecting them to the next level but an imperfect one.
They include a ton of information, so it's going to be a long read but I think the information they provide is valuable.

1) Treylon Burks, Arkansas
Spoiler!


2) Garrett Wilson, Ohio State
Spoiler!


3) Drake London, USC
Spoiler!


4) Jameson Williams, Alabama
Spoiler!


5) Skyy Moore, Western Michigan
Spoiler!

The Franchise 04-01-2022 09:22 AM

Here's 6-10.

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/articl...rofiles-part-2

6) Chris Olave, Ohio State
Spoiler!


7) George Pickens, Georgia
Spoiler!


8) David Bell, Purdue
Spoiler!


9) Christian Watson, North Dakota State
Spoiler!


10) Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama
Spoiler!

htismaqe 04-01-2022 09:26 AM

I didn't know Burks was so young. He's pretty polished for such a young kid.

I like him a lot at 29 but have to wonder if he'll even be there. These WR evals are all over the place.

htismaqe 04-01-2022 09:28 AM

Of the guys with late 1st grades, Olave would be the guy I want.

kcbubb 04-01-2022 09:35 AM

It seems to me that mahomes rarely throws passes that could be contested. PM seemed very concerned about turnovers and wanted to avoid tipped balls as the season progressed. I like burks but does it concern you that 63% of his downfield catches were contested?

htismaqe 04-01-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16227320)
It seems to me that mahomes rarely throws passes that could be contested. PM seemed very concerned about turnovers and wanted to avoid tipped balls as the season progressed. I like burks but does it concern you that 63% of his downfield catches were contested?

The one reason it doesn't concern me greatly is because I don't think Burks is really a downfield guy, especially not in this offense.

kcbubb 04-01-2022 09:42 AM

Really good info in this. Thanks for posting.

Jameson Williams Yards after catch - It's generally much easier to rack up yards after the catch on short passes and screens than by operating as a deep threat, but Williams averaged 1.44 YAC per route in 2021. That's an impressive mark in any context. The context here is that 72% of Williams' YAC came on targets past the line of scrimmage, and screens made up just 9% of Williams' yardage total. His college after-catch ability is a very promising sign for his potential to be an elite playmaker downfield. Williams will likely see a lot of intermediate and deep targets in the NFL. If he adds YAC in a meaningful way, he will be a big-play machine.

bigjosh 04-01-2022 09:44 AM

The only one i dont think i would be excited about is skyy moore, because of his size.

So naturally we will end up with him.

I think moving up for London would signify the end of the small receiver era in kc.

kcbubb 04-01-2022 09:47 AM

Can we move up to 20 without giving up a 2nd rounder? If so, what would that look like? I could see all the teams after 20 taking a WR. They won’t but any one of them could.

20) Pittsburgh Steelers
21) New England Patriots
22) Green Bay Packers (from Las Vegas Raiders)
23) Arizona Cardinals
24) Dallas Cowboys
25) Buffalo Bills
26) Tennessee Titans
27) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
28) Green Bay Packers
29) Kansas City Chiefs (from San Francisco 49ers through Miami Dolphins)

O.city 04-01-2022 09:53 AM

Every WR there I like I also see a guy that I coudl get in the 2nd/3rd that I like just as much.

The Franchise 04-01-2022 09:53 AM

Don’t turn this into another trade up for Williams thread. We have 8 of those.

kcbubb 04-01-2022 09:55 AM

:deevee: Ok

MahomesMagic 04-01-2022 10:18 AM

Olave too low.

The Franchise 04-01-2022 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16227437)
Olave too low.

These rankings are fantasy football-focused and driven by statistical metrics that I'll explain throughout the profiles.

htismaqe 04-01-2022 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16227352)
Can we move up to 20 without giving up a 2nd rounder? If so, what would that look like? I could see all the teams after 20 taking a WR. They won’t but any one of them could.

20) Pittsburgh Steelers
21) New England Patriots
22) Green Bay Packers (from Las Vegas Raiders)
23) Arizona Cardinals
24) Dallas Cowboys
25) Buffalo Bills
26) Tennessee Titans
27) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
28) Green Bay Packers
29) Kansas City Chiefs (from San Francisco 49ers through Miami Dolphins)

No.

Stop trying to find a way to trade up.

The Franchise 04-01-2022 10:49 AM

I didn’t post it for the rankings or where it says they’ll get drafted. That’s all fantasy stuff. I posted it for the statistical analysis. Target shares. Routes run. That kind of data.

htismaqe 04-01-2022 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16227491)
I didn’t post it for the rankings or where it says they’ll get drafted. That’s all fantasy stuff. I posted it for the statistical analysis. Target shares. Routes run. That kind of data.

The player comparisons are nice too.

Dante84 04-01-2022 11:45 AM

Great article - love seeing these deeper dive statistics.

kccrow 04-01-2022 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16227352)
Can we move up to 20 without giving up a 2nd rounder? If so, what would that look like? I could see all the teams after 20 taking a WR. They won’t but any one of them could.

20) Pittsburgh Steelers
21) New England Patriots
22) Green Bay Packers (from Las Vegas Raiders)
23) Arizona Cardinals
24) Dallas Cowboys
25) Buffalo Bills
26) Tennessee Titans
27) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
28) Green Bay Packers
29) Kansas City Chiefs (from San Francisco 49ers through Miami Dolphins)

Sure, they could give up a couple 3rd rounders instead to go get that pass rusher they want. :D

Toad 04-01-2022 02:28 PM

Really good information. Thanks for sharing!

Been up/down on Burks. Way high on him until the lack luster performance at the combine. Looking at his tape vs other WRs and I’m back up. Hard to deny his results within the best conference in the land.

BossChief 04-01-2022 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16227306)
I didn't know Burks was so young. He's pretty polished for such a young kid.

I like him a lot at 29 but have to wonder if he'll even be there. These WR evals are all over the place.

This draft is like that at many positions, too. More than most years, there aren’t consensus takes on any one prospect by analysts across the board.

I’m sure it’s that way with GMs and scouting departments, as well. I think we’re going to see 2-3 guys be taken in the first that nobody else has before the third round….I also think 2-3 guys are going to free fall that nobody expects to.

It’s going to be exciting to watch it play out.

BossChief 04-01-2022 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16227491)
I didn’t post it for the rankings or where it says they’ll get drafted. That’s all fantasy stuff. I posted it for the statistical analysis. Target shares. Routes run. That kind of data.

Much appreciated. This data had to take a long time to put together for them.

kcbubb 04-01-2022 08:00 PM

Yes, good info.

Chris Meck 04-02-2022 07:40 AM

Man, this is pretty interesting information.

I've been late coming around to Burks but I'm starting to think KC would be the perfect spot for him for the following reasons:

1)Andy said we wanted to get bigger at WR; the bigger WR's we let go (Pringle, Robinson) weren't dynamic at all. MVS and Juju are massive upgrades over them

2)The slot percentages had me worried; but the outside #'s are actually really good on Burks

3)The schemed touches. Does anyone in the NFL do 'schemed touches' like Andy Reid? It's one of his best attributes to find ways to utilize individual athletes unique skillsets. Except for Clyde. I can't explain that.

So I'm coming around on Burks in a larger way. A WR corps full of big, physical bullies is an interesting counter to the rest of the NFL stacking speedy secondaries to stop the Hill era offense.

Also-and I don't want to get into another Watson argument, but the stats there were interesting and validating as well, I thought. I still don't think I'd do it in the first, but if he was there at #50 I'd take him.

Hell, I'd take Burks at #30 and Watson at #50 sandwiched between Wyatt at #29 and Sam Williams/Mafe/Cam Thomas at #62 and feel real good about things moving forward.

The Franchise 04-02-2022 08:48 AM

I find the Burks/Shenault comp interesting. Maybe Reid thinks he can turn Shenault around and that’s why we’ve been interested in him.

RunKC 04-02-2022 09:00 AM

Wish they had write ups on the 2nd tier of players like Alec Pierce bc that’s who I think we’ll be in on

The Franchise 04-02-2022 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16228639)
Wish they had write ups on the 2nd tier of players like Alec Pierce bc that’s who I think we’ll be in on

If they post them….I’ll post them here.

chiefforlife 04-02-2022 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16228569)
Man, this is pretty interesting information.

I've been late coming around to Burks but I'm starting to think KC would be the perfect spot for him for the following reasons:

1)Andy said we wanted to get bigger at WR; the bigger WR's we let go (Pringle, Robinson) weren't dynamic at all. MVS and Juju are massive upgrades over them

2)The slot percentages had me worried; but the outside #'s are actually really good on Burks

3)The schemed touches. Does anyone in the NFL do 'schemed touches' like Andy Reid? It's one of his best attributes to find ways to utilize individual athletes unique skillsets. Except for Clyde. I can't explain that.

So I'm coming around on Burks in a larger way. A WR corps full of big, physical bullies is an interesting counter to the rest of the NFL stacking speedy secondaries to stop the Hill era offense.

Also-and I don't want to get into another Watson argument, but the stats there were interesting and validating as well, I thought. I still don't think I'd do it in the first, but if he was there at #50 I'd take him.

Hell, I'd take Burks at #30 and Watson at #50 sandwiched between Wyatt at #29 and Sam Williams/Mafe/Cam Thomas at #62 and feel real good about things moving forward.

Glad you are coming around on Burks! I had an instant crush on him, he was my first choice from the beginning. I too was disappointed in his combine but the tape is amazing! I think he would be exactly the WR Patrick has never had. Love this guy!

Also, I have really opened up to Watson. His athleticism is impossible to ignore. I felt he was late 2 or even 3 rounder but I was wrong. Someone is going to pick him early. Small school and all but WOW!

The thought of Burks AND Watson!! Sign me up!! Our WRs would be insane! Sure would take the sting out of losing Tyreek.

Throw in a couple of Defenders in the first 4 picks and the rest of the draft is just gravy! Almost unfair to the rest of the league.

(Also would be Great if Jameson Williams were in the mix but probably not going to happen)

duncan_idaho 04-02-2022 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16228569)
Man, this is pretty interesting information.

I've been late coming around to Burks but I'm starting to think KC would be the perfect spot for him for the following reasons:

1)Andy said we wanted to get bigger at WR; the bigger WR's we let go (Pringle, Robinson) weren't dynamic at all. MVS and Juju are massive upgrades over them

2)The slot percentages had me worried; but the outside #'s are actually really good on Burks

3)The schemed touches. Does anyone in the NFL do 'schemed touches' like Andy Reid? It's one of his best attributes to find ways to utilize individual athletes unique skillsets. Except for Clyde. I can't explain that.

So I'm coming around on Burks in a larger way. A WR corps full of big, physical bullies is an interesting counter to the rest of the NFL stacking speedy secondaries to stop the Hill era offense.

Also-and I don't want to get into another Watson argument, but the stats there were interesting and validating as well, I thought. I still don't think I'd do it in the first, but if he was there at #50 I'd take him.

Hell, I'd take Burks at #30 and Watson at #50 sandwiched between Wyatt at #29 and Sam Williams/Mafe/Cam Thomas at #62 and feel real good about things moving forward.

I think our little draft nerd community has done a great job breaking down the pluses and minuses of all the WRs.

There are a lot of guys I'd be excited abot. And as DJ pointed out, John Metchie III has kind of become a forgotten man amidst all the recent combine and pro day stuff.

That's a guy that, pre-injury, looked like he'd be right there with the Ohio State guys in the top 15-20 picks (Williams, too, obviously). And his skillset fits nicely with what Andy Reid traditionally has liked from his receivers (good speed, quick feet, good route running and ability to separate).

If their solution to WR is to draft John Metchie III at the end of the second (or, shoot, even at 50), I will be on board with that.

I'd be on board with using 29 or 30 on a WR (Burks, Watson, Pierce might be a bit of a reach there, but if no one falls and they want to lock it up, I get it).

I'd be on board with drafting a Tolbert or Metchie at the end of the 2nd and pairing it with another guy in the 3rd (Romeo Doubs? Calvin Austin III?).

Really, the only thing that WOULDN'T make a ton of sense to me right now is the idea of giving up a lot to go get a WR. I would understand trading up to nab a Jermaine Johnson II if he inexplicably fell. But the draft class is so deep. I don't know that the difference is worth it to get Karlaftis instead of Sam Williams or Cam Thomas. Kind of like I don't the difference is worth the cost to get a WR at 21 or 18 versus at 29 or later.

OKchiefs 04-02-2022 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16228629)
I find the Burks/Shenault comp interesting. Maybe Reid thinks he can turn Shenault around and that’s why we’ve been interested in him.

Does he even really need to be “turned around” much though? Seems like he’s done pretty well considering the circumstances in Jacksonville.

Otter 04-02-2022 11:03 AM

9) Christian Watson, North Dakota State

Can probably fill in for Kelce in a pinch and a damn good WR to boot.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-02-2022 11:41 AM

I don't want to trade up at all. If anything I'd like a trade down to load up more 2's and 3's

While the rest of the AFCW has mortgaged their future to try and win Now I'm good with the next 5-10 year plan.

With Mahomes at QB we're guaranteed a playoff spot year in and year out.

kcbubb 04-02-2022 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16227325)
The one reason it doesn't concern me greatly is because I don't think Burks is really a downfield guy, especially not in this offense.

Very interesting. I still don’t think burks there at 29. And I know you don’t want to trade up. What do we do if burks is gone & the rest of the top 5 wr group? Watson in the first or get value later at wr? Seems to me that some are content with no wr1 type next year but a better group overall?

Chargem 04-03-2022 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16229827)
Very interesting. I still don’t think burks there at 29. And I know you don’t want to trade up. What do we do if burks is gone & the rest of the top 5 wr group? Watson in the first or get value later at wr? Seems to me that some are content with no wr1 type next year but a better group overall?

What does a "WR1 type" even mean? I think whatever it means, its an outdated thought process. You just want 3 guys who can get open, because if you only have 1-2, a defense can scheme around them with double teams etc.

Kelce, JJSS, MVS, Hardman is enough receiving talent that the offense can be productive, you don't need a significant amount of production from a rookie WR to be a good team in 2022. There are also tons of receivers who don't go in the first round who turn out to be productive (Deebo, Claypool, AJ Brown, Chark all went in the 2nd, McLaurin, Gallup went in the 3rd, Renfrow went in the 5th). If a top receiver doesn't fall in the Chiefs lap in the 1st, that must push down another position group of need (DL, secondary) and there will be an opportunity to add talent in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Offense is always more exciting, but I would not be the slightest bit worried or dissappointed if the first 4-5 picks made all go on improving the defense.

Best22 04-03-2022 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16227320)
It seems to me that mahomes rarely throws passes that could be contested. PM seemed very concerned about turnovers and wanted to avoid tipped balls as the season progressed. I like burks but does it concern you that 63% of his downfield catches were contested?

Because he didn’t have any receivers that could win contested ball matchups. I mean Tyreek can catch a jump ball but that’s still a 5’8 receiver covered by a 6’0 DB, so there’s a lot of risk. He doesn’t have a Mike Williams type of receiver. If he did I’m sure he’d throw some contested balls. But Hill, Hardman, and Robinson isn’t a great group to be throwing 50/50 balls to

Best22 04-03-2022 03:33 AM

29: Best WR available
30: Best Edge available

50: Best DB available
62: Best DL available

94: Best WR/DB available depending on value
103: TE

In the 4th they can target a RB and also look into DL. 7th round you can take a flyer on an OL

This draft has me excited

duncan_idaho 04-03-2022 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16229981)
29: Best WR available
30: Best Edge available

50: Best DB available
62: Best DL available

94: Best WR/DB available depending on value
103: TE

In the 4th they can target a RB and also look into DL. 7th round you can take a flyer on an OL

This draft has me excited


I think those first four pick, you have to be flexible at all of them like you indicate at 94.

Can’t lock in at one position per pick.

Chargem 04-03-2022 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16230009)
I think those first four pick, you have to be flexible at all of them like you indicate at 94.

Can’t lock in at one position per pick.

Agree - the only good thing about having so many needs is that you definitely shouldn't be locked in on positions like in the post you quote (although I'd argue you should never be locked in, regardless of needs).

SAGA45 04-03-2022 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 16229970)

Offense is always more exciting, but I would not be the slightest bit worried or dissappointed if the first 4-5 picks made all go on improving the defense.

Yep. There's quality depth at WR well into Day-3 and beyond if you know where to look.

Bowser 04-03-2022 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 16228768)
9) Christian Watson, North Dakota State

Can probably fill in for Kelce in a pinch and a damn good WR to boot.

I don't want to like Watson as I feel like he is a workout warrior of sorts that did it against inferior competition in college, but I keep getting drawn back to him. Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller said on NFL Radio that they love the kid after watching him practice and play in real time at the Senior Bowl. If he's sitting there at 50, do we take him (provided we haven't already taken a receiver or traded the pick)? It might be difficult not to.

Chargem 04-03-2022 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16230152)
I don't want to like Watson as I feel like he is a workout warrior of sorts that did it against inferior competition in college, but I keep getting drawn back to him. Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller said on NFL Radio that they love the kid after watching him practice and play in real time at the Senior Bowl. If he's sitting there at 50, do we take him (provided we haven't already taken a receiver or traded the pick)? It might be difficult not to.

I think I would take him at 50, I am starting to think he goes before that

OKchiefs 04-03-2022 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 16229970)
What does a "WR1 type" even mean? I think whatever it means, its an outdated thought process. You just want 3 guys who can get open, because if you only have 1-2, a defense can scheme around them with double teams etc.

Kelce, JJSS, MVS, Hardman is enough receiving talent that the offense can be productive, you don't need a significant amount of production from a rookie WR to be a good team in 2022. There are also tons of receivers who don't go in the first round who turn out to be productive (Deebo, Claypool, AJ Brown, Chark all went in the 2nd, McLaurin, Gallup went in the 3rd, Renfrow went in the 5th). If a top receiver doesn't fall in the Chiefs lap in the 1st, that must push down another position group of need (DL, secondary) and there will be an opportunity to add talent in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Offense is always more exciting, but I would not be the slightest bit worried or dissappointed if the first 4-5 picks made all go on improving the defense.

Beyond 2022 KC has Jack and Shit at WR under contract. They have MVS and that's it, the roster is barren at the position after this year. While they don't absolutely NEED a WR to step up this year, they do NEED bodies long term. IMO WR is a position you should be drafting nearly every year. In the past 5 years the wide receivers KC have taken are Hardman, Powell, Tremon Smith, and Chesson. Powell may eventually develop into something (not counting on it), but until now Hardman is the only one that has stuck around. That's a 2nd round pick and then a bunch of late round fliers at the position. It's understandable that KC didn't invest significantly in the draft after getting both Hill and Robinson in 2016, but we're also seeing the results now of a lack of investment at the position.

I wouldn't force it in the 1st, but I also think KC should be prepared to move around in the 1st/2nd to get the guy(s) they want rather than just sitting there waiting for other teams to potentially jump them for the players they covet. If KC doesn't come out of the end of the 2nd round with a WR I would view that as a huge mistake.

staylor26 04-03-2022 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16229981)
29: Best WR available
30: Best Edge available

50: Best DB available
62: Best DL available

94: Best WR/DB available depending on value
103: TE

In the 4th they can target a RB and also look into DL. 7th round you can take a flyer on an OL

This draft has me excited

Awful way to approach the draft.

kcbubb 04-03-2022 01:51 PM

Wr1 type means reasonable probability of big production like hill, Adams or Jefferson…. Can they produce big with pm in our offense. I’m not saying that we can’t find productive players late. I’m just looking for boom prospects like jefferson with that kind of potential. Most of the guys in the second or later have some flaws that bother me or have issues that drastically lower their ceiling. I’m not interested in solid contributors because I feel like we can find those in FA or even possibly with guys already on our roster like fountain or etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 16229970)
What does a "WR1 type" even mean? I think whatever it means, its an outdated thought process. You just want 3 guys who can get open, because if you only have 1-2, a defense can scheme around them with double teams etc.

Kelce, JJSS, MVS, Hardman is enough receiving talent that the offense can be productive, you don't need a significant amount of production from a rookie WR to be a good team in 2022. There are also tons of receivers who don't go in the first round who turn out to be productive (Deebo, Claypool, AJ Brown, Chark all went in the 2nd, McLaurin, Gallup went in the 3rd, Renfrow went in the 5th). If a top receiver doesn't fall in the Chiefs lap in the 1st, that must push down another position group of need (DL, secondary) and there will be an opportunity to add talent in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th.

Offense is always more exciting, but I would not be the slightest bit worried or dissappointed if the first 4-5 picks made all go on improving the defense.


Best22 04-03-2022 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16230247)
Awful way to approach the draft.

That’s not my strategy for the draft, that’s just how I hope the board falls and KC is able to take advantage

TambaBerry 04-03-2022 05:00 PM

As you can tell from my Chiefs mock I am all about best player available. I don't lock in any position. Obviously QB, interior lineman, etc aren't something you would look at but almost any other position is open to me.

kccrow 04-03-2022 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16230152)
I don't want to like Watson as I feel like he is a workout warrior of sorts that did it against inferior competition in college, but I keep getting drawn back to him. Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller said on NFL Radio that they love the kid after watching him practice and play in real time at the Senior Bowl. If he's sitting there at 50, do we take him (provided we haven't already taken a receiver or traded the pick)? It might be difficult not to.

I'm starting to come around to the idea too. He's the type I'd like to pair with a "safer" prospect but I'm not so sure Veach would double-dip that early. I still come back to wanting to take the shot on an athlete with a guy like Gray in the 4th than I do in the mid-second but the ceiling on Watson is probably a bit higher.

kcbubb 04-03-2022 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16229979)
Because he didn’t have any receivers that could win contested ball matchups. I mean Tyreek can catch a jump ball but that’s still a 5’8 receiver covered by a 6’0 DB, so there’s a lot of risk. He doesn’t have a Mike Williams type of receiver. If he did I’m sure he’d throw some contested balls. But Hill, Hardman, and Robinson isn’t a great group to be throwing 50/50 balls to

Hmm…. I’m trying to remember how many 50/50 balls that kelce gets? I don’t think hill throws many of those 50/50 balls. I think he’s a qb that prefers the separation and tries to avoid any tipped balls that could result in turnovers. PMs had some bad luck with tipped balls being picked. And we should pick wrs that make him comfortable.

staylor26 04-03-2022 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16230553)
That’s not my strategy for the draft, that’s just how I hope the board falls and KC is able to take advantage

Fair enough.

The Franchise 04-11-2022 09:46 AM

Rotoworld listed out their top 50 WRs with statistical numbers.

RAS score, PFF grade, Drop rate, Catch rate, Percentage spent in the slot and and out wide and then one comp.

Top 10
Spoiler!


11-20
Spoiler!


21-30
Spoiler!


31-40
Spoiler!


41-55
Spoiler!

Couch-Potato 04-12-2022 08:28 AM

Not too high on Metchie I guess

chiefforlife 04-12-2022 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16242525)
Not too high on Metchie I guess

Right! Thats why whomever said we should pass on JW and draft Metchie later on was CRAZY!

Titty Meat 04-12-2022 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16227309)
Of the guys with late 1st grades, Olave would be the guy I want.

You wouldn't trade the 2 firsts to move up for Jameson?


Jk

Dante84 04-13-2022 12:48 PM

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Olave / Lockett comparison

htismaqe 04-13-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16243236)
You wouldn't trade the 2 firsts to move up for Jameson?


Jk

ROFL

RunKC 04-13-2022 02:39 PM

Oh man that Doug Baldwin comp for Skyy Moore is so good. And **** yeah I’d take Dough Baldwin with pick 50.


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