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Hoover 04-14-2022 08:24 AM

Dane Bruglers 7 round Mock
 
Kansas City Chiefs

1 (29) Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida
1 (30) Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota
2 (50) David Ojabo, Edge, Michigan
2 (62) Jalen Tolbert, WR, South Alabama
3 (94) Brian Asamoah, LB, Oklahoma
3 (103) Charlie Kolar, TE, Iowa State
4 (121) Max Mitchell, OT, Louisiana
4 (135) JT Woods, S, Baylor
7 (233) Curtis Brooks, DT, Cincinnati
7 (243) Gregory Junior, CB, Ouachita Baptist
7 (251) Chasen Hines, OG, LSU
7 (259) Isaiah Weston, WR, Northern Iowa

In58men 04-14-2022 08:25 AM

It’s not sexy, but it’ll work. I like Jalen Tolbert quite a bit. I don’t like the idea of drafting TE at all, I feel like we can completely skip that position this year.

Kman34 04-14-2022 08:27 AM

I don’t get the CB first pick thing.. I believe it going to be WR or edge rusher..

Steron 04-14-2022 08:27 AM

I'd like to see a RB in there somewhere.....

In58men 04-14-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 16245442)
I'd like to see a RB in there somewhere.....

Same, take out TE and go RB.

Hoover 04-14-2022 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 16245439)
I don’t get the CB first pick thing.. I believe it going to be WR or edge rusher..

Yeah sure until there isn't one there. I think we need to trade up if we want a WR, but we could take Pickens there. Which is fine by me.

I think the Charlie Kolar pick is sneaky good. Would love to see that.

louie aguiar 04-14-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16245436)
It’s not sexy, but it’ll work. I like Jalen Tolbert quite a bit. I don’t like the idea of drafting TE at all, I feel like we can completely skip that position this year.

Kelce will be 33 next year and we don't have much behind him. I wouldn't mind taking another tight end at all.

staylor26 04-14-2022 08:36 AM

I’d be very happy with those first 5 picks, but give me another WR at 103 instead of Kolar.

O.city 04-14-2022 08:36 AM

Love it.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-14-2022 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16245450)
Kelce will be 33 next year and we don't have much behind him. I wouldn't mind taking another tight end at all.

They have a couple of young guys behind Kelce in Gray and Fortson, so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't draft a TE specific player this year but you never know

neech 04-14-2022 08:37 AM

I can see Ojabo dropping that far, I wouldn't select him in the first round thats for sure.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 16245439)
I don’t get the CB first pick thing.. I believe it going to be WR or edge rusher..

It’s all about value. You can’t just draft the 6th or 7th DE/WR in the first because you need one. Not if you can get the 3rd best CB…..WHICH IS ALSO A NEED.

I think people are putting WR ahead of CB as a bigger need when they’re both equal at this point.

RunKC 04-14-2022 08:41 AM

I’d feel way better getting Ojabo at 50.

Oh and Asamoah is a really good LB prospect. Didn’t think we’d go there but damn that would be a steal in the 3rd

Hoover 04-14-2022 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245462)
It’s all about value. You can’t just draft the 6th or 7th DE/WR in the first because you need one. Not if you can get the 3rd best CB…..WHICH IS ALSO A NEED.

I think people are putting WR ahead of CB as a bigger need when they’re both equal at this point.

Right.

I've just started doing the simulators (very addictive) and while I don't really want to go CB in round one, when you see how the draft falls it makes a ton of sense.

If the Chiefs stay put, I think drafting a WR is very difficult because the top 5 are not getting to us, and its a little early on going with the next three or so. This is compounded by the fact we have to get an edge rusher with one of our firsts.

Ojabo going in the middle of the 2nd actually makes sense, I and agree that's worth the investment.

louie aguiar 04-14-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 16245458)
They have a couple of young guys behind Kelce in Gray and Fortson, so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't draft a TE specific player this year but you never know

I wouldn't count on either of those guys. Fortson is an UDFA who has spent most of his career on the practice squad and is coming off an ACL tear. Gray is a 5th round rookie that didn't do much in limited opportunity. Maybe they will surprise but I think having two dependable pass-catching options at tight end could really help Mahomes, especially now that he won't have Tyreek.

O.city 04-14-2022 08:56 AM

You go into the draft shoehorning yourself into a DE and or WR in the first, you end up taking the 8th best or something when the 2nd best CB is sitting there.

It's how we got into this mess in the first place. Don't do that.

oldman 04-14-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245462)
It’s all about value. You can’t just draft the 6th or 7th DE/WR in the first because you need one. Not if you can get the 3rd best CB…..WHICH IS ALSO A NEED.

I think people are putting WR ahead of CB as a bigger need when they’re both equal at this point.

I agree, we need secondary help as well as an EDGE guy more than we need a WR. This class is pretty deep when it comes to WR, so I'd go D first. I'm also in agreement that a TE isn't a priority in this draft. I really liked what we saw in Forston before his injury and Gray looked like a keeper in the limited time he was on the field.
I am totally against trading up for a WR. To get to that stud (or maybe a dud) would cost too much.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 09:03 AM

Sam Williams and Drake Jackson were there at #50...if he had decided to pass on Ojabo.

This was his reasoning.

Quote:

With 12 picks in this draft, including two firsts and two seconds, the Chiefs can afford to invest in a player like David Ojabo who might not see the field in 2022. Ojabo was widely viewed as a mid-first round pick, but the Achilles injury at his pro day drops him a full round and right into the laps of a franchise looking to rebuild its defense.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16245508)
I agree, we need secondary help as well as an EDGE guy more than we need a WR. This class is pretty deep when it comes to WR, so I'd go D first. I'm also in agreement that a TE isn't a priority in this draft. I really liked what we saw in Forston before his injury and Gray looked like a keeper in the limited time he was on the field.
I am totally against trading up for a WR. To get to that stud (or maybe a dud) would cost too much.

I'm not in agreement that TE isn't a need. Fortson is coming back from an achilles and while Gray has shown flashes of potential....I don't really view him as a viable starter. Fortson probably starts on PUP and if we can replace Bell...then I'm all for it.

O.city 04-14-2022 09:08 AM

Rosters completely turnover in 2/3 years in the NFL. Every position save for QB is a need.

ptlyon 04-14-2022 09:09 AM

James T. Woods. Awesome.

Cosmos 04-14-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16245450)
Kelce will be 33 next year and we don't have much behind him. I wouldn't mind taking another tight end at all.

Completely agree..we have 3 capable RBs right now, an just one 32 yo TE…and this is a passing team.

Probably the best, realistic mock I’ve seen so far.

I like double dipping on the OL as well.

Woogieman 04-14-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 16245439)
I don’t get the CB first pick thing.. I believe it going to be WR or edge rusher..

I agree...Elam should be taken at 30

The Franchise 04-14-2022 09:29 AM

To the people clamoring for a DE and WR in the first. Here is who is on the board for 29 and 30.

WR
Jahan Dotson
George Pickens
Skyy Moore
Christian Watson

DE
Arnold Ebiketie
Sam Williams
David Ojabo
Drake Jackson

The Franchise 04-14-2022 09:33 AM

Interesting picks ahead of us.

Jermaine Johnson goes at #13 - a possible trade up scenario for DE.
Jameson Williams goes at #19
George Karlaftis goes at #23
Treylon Burks goes at #25
Devontae Wyatt goes at #27
Travis Jones goes at #28

staylor26 04-14-2022 09:34 AM

If Karlaftis makes it to the early 20s, I think they trade up for him.

BigCatDaddy 04-14-2022 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16245583)
If Karlaftis makes it to the early 20s, I think they trade up for him.

Burks is tempting also.. Probably take a 3rd to jump up 5 spots or so?

BossChief 04-14-2022 09:38 AM

If the board fell like that, I’d be ok with Elam or Booth at 30, especially when Mafe and Ojabo are the next 2 picks.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16245596)
If the board fell like that, I’d be ok with Elam or Booth at 30, especially when Mafe and Ojabo are the next 2 picks.

Booth is there at 30. He went #35 in this mock.

louie aguiar 04-14-2022 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245568)
To the people clamoring for a DE and WR in the first. Here is who is on the board for 29 and 30.

WR
Jahan Dotson
George Pickens
Skyy Moore
Christian Watson

DE
Arnold Ebiketie
Sam Williams
David Ojabo
Drake Jackson

I think I'm leaning toward Jahan Dotson among those receivers.

frozenchief 04-14-2022 09:45 AM

I like Brugler’s picks. We need to bolster our defense. WR may not have Hill but last I checked, we have a guy named Patrick Mahomes as our QB and Andy Reid coaching. Our offense will do fine. We can draft for the future on offense. We need help on the defense NOW.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-14-2022 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 16245502)
I wouldn't count on either of those guys. Fortson is an UDFA who has spent most of his career on the practice squad and is coming off an ACL tear. Gray is a 5th round rookie that didn't do much in limited opportunity. Maybe they will surprise but I think having two dependable pass-catching options at tight end could really help Mahomes, especially now that he won't have Tyreek.

Yeah Gray is still young and we just don't know what he is yet. And Fortson was showing promise in the beginning of the season, so I'm cautiously optimistic, but we will know better as he recovers from his Achilles.

The great thing with 12 picks is there is a lot that is on the table for them and they could go in almost any direction.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefBlueCFC (Post 16245615)
Yeah Gray is still young and we just don't know what he is yet. And Fortson was showing promise in the beginning of the season, so I'm cautiously optimistic, but we will know better as he recovers from his ACL.

The great thing with 12 picks is there is a lot that is on the table for them and they could go in almost any direction.

Achilles....not ACL.

In58men 04-14-2022 09:49 AM

What about this…….

Atlanta is currently in rebuild mode and sits at 8 in the 1st rd. If I’m Veach I call them and offer picks 29 and 30 for their 2023 1st rd pick and their 2022 2nd, maybe squeeze a 2022 4th/5th rd pick. Atlanta sits on the 43rd pick in the 2nd rd. So KC slides back 13-14 positions. KC still gets a quality player. KC Still has picks to maneuver around if need be. But you get Atlanta’s 1st rd pick in 2023. That is almost guaranteed a top 10 pick in 2023. Then you have additional fire power in the future to draft a stud, trade and acquire value, but more importantly, sustain the solid roster you already have.

They’re projecting 7 qbs to go in the 1st rd next year. If KC landed a top-10, no telling what they could get for that.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-14-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245620)
Achilles....not ACL.

you're right, it was achilles. Gross

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-14-2022 09:53 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 04-14-2022 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****. NO.

O.city 04-14-2022 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245580)
Interesting picks ahead of us.

Jermaine Johnson goes at #13 - a possible trade up scenario for DE.
Jameson Williams goes at #19
George Karlaftis goes at #23
Treylon Burks goes at #25
Devontae Wyatt goes at #27
Travis Jones goes at #28

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16245583)
If Karlaftis makes it to the early 20s, I think they trade up for him.

Man, I'm just not sure I'm excited about trading up for Karlaftis. I think he's gonna be good, but is the upside there?

Hoover 04-14-2022 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16245623)
What about this? Atlanta currently in rebuild mode and sits at 8 in the 1st rd. If I’m Veach I call them and offer picks 29 and 30 for their 2023 1st rd pick and their 2022 2nd, maybe squeeze a 2022 4th/5th rd pick. Atlanta sits on the 43rd pick in the 2nd rd. So KC slides back 13-14 positions. KC still gets a quality player. KC Still has picks to maneuver around if need be. But you get Atlanta’s 1st rd pick in 2023. That is almost guaranteed a top 10 pick in 2023. Then you have additional fire power in the future to draft a stud, trade and acquire value, but more importantly, sustain the solid roster you already have.

They’re projecting 7 qbs to go in the 1st rd next year. If KC landed a top-10, no telling what they could get for that.

But Atlanta is more interested in draft capital for next years draft when there might actually be a QB available.

louie aguiar 04-14-2022 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We have so many needs on defense. I really don’t like the idea of giving up all those picks.

htismaqe 04-14-2022 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245634)
****. NO.

Exactly.

****ing stupid.

Hoover 04-14-2022 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah that only makes sense if the only thing you need to do in this draft is replace Hill. Its the laziness of the NFL media. When you have legit needs at multiple positions and you have a bunch of top 100 picks, I would tend to want to use them.

If you are going to trade up, then use a 2023 draft pick, because that's what a team like the Texans is actually looking for anyway.

Pitt Gorilla 04-14-2022 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hard pass.

TambaBerry 04-14-2022 10:03 AM

Man I'm not a fan of Mafe

O.city 04-14-2022 10:04 AM

Thing is, if Miller is throwing that out there, he's probably heard it from someone in KC. He's usually fairly plugged in there.

With him and Taylor all about trading up.....there's alot of smoke out there.

staylor26 04-14-2022 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245651)
Thing is, if Miller is throwing that out there, he's probably heard it from someone in KC. He's usually fairly plugged in there.

With him and Taylor all about trading up.....there's alot of smoke out there.

Oh I definitely think they’re going to trade up, but it won’t be that high, and it won’t be for a WR. At least I don’t think it will be.

frozenchief 04-14-2022 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No, no, no. 1000x no. Our QB means we dont need to spend such draft capital on a WR. Years ago, Aaron Schwartz and Football Outsiders showed that WRs depend on the QB like RBs depend on the O line (CEH being an apparent exception). We shouldn’t use our draft capital for a WR. If there’s a great edge rusher, I’d consider it. But not a WR.

O.city 04-14-2022 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16245656)
Oh I definitely think they’re going to trade up, but it won’t be that high, and it won’t be for a WR. At least I don’t think it will be.

I just hate trading up for very much for a guy that's like the 4th best DE in the class

ChiefBlueCFC 04-14-2022 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If you can keep this years 2nds and give maybe next years, you'd get me to the table to start talking. But, I'm not trying to trade a lot of my early picks away if I can avoid it.

Maybe if I trade 29 to move up and lose 50, I'll trade 30 to move back get back into the 2nd round... maybe if it works out but that would require a lot of things to probably fall right to work out

TambaBerry 04-14-2022 10:09 AM

I really think we have too many roster spots to trade up like that. There is a youth movement going on it seems and i can't see them giving up prime draft picks.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245651)
Thing is, if Miller is throwing that out there, he's probably heard it from someone in KC. He's usually fairly plugged in there.

With him and Taylor all about trading up.....there's alot of smoke out there.

How much of it is him hearing something? Or just the national media trying to connect the dots?

Chiefs traded Hill. Williams is fast. The Chiefs have 12 picks. ****ING TRADE UP!!!! It's borderline lazy writing.

O.city 04-14-2022 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245670)
How much of it is him hearing something? Or just the national media trying to connect the dots?

Chiefs traded Hill. Williams is fast. The Chiefs have 12 picks. ****ING TRADE UP!!!! It's borderline lazy writing.

Him and Taylor throwing alot of "trade up" stuff out there.

It's either a nice smoke screen or there's merit.

htismaqe 04-14-2022 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245675)
Him and Taylor throwing alot of "trade up" stuff out there.

It's either a nice smoke screen or there's merit.

So are the NFL talking heads, some of whom know less about football than we do.

It's all just connecting perceived dots, and a pretty lazy effort at that.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245675)
Him and Taylor throwing alot of "trade up" stuff out there.

It's either a nice smoke screen or there's merit.

I'm leaning towards smoke screen. Could they trade up? Sure. But I don't see them moving up that far...and not for a WR.

In58men 04-14-2022 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245680)
I'm leaning towards smoke screen. Could they trade up? Sure. But I don't see them moving up that far...and not for a WR.

Didn’t Chiefs try to trade up for Ruggs? Not sure how many spots it was though.

RunKC 04-14-2022 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245651)
Thing is, if Miller is throwing that out there, he's probably heard it from someone in KC. He's usually fairly plugged in there.

With him and Taylor all about trading up.....there's alot of smoke out there.

Brett Veach is an assertive risk taker. He’s traded his first rd pick or traded up for players almost every year. With this many picks I don’t see how he doesn’t do it again.

Not sure what he’ll use but if we know one thing about Veach it’s that he will go get his guy. And I would not be surprised one but if that was a WR.

RunKC 04-14-2022 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245634)
****. NO.

It would depend on what they did with pick 30. If they traded down and for another 3rd I’d be cool with that trade

staylor26 04-14-2022 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245662)
I just hate trading up for very much for a guy that's like the 4th best DE in the class

That’s because you’re looking at it that way as opposed to the player.

I don’t care if he’s the “4th best DE on the class”, George Karlaftis is worth trading a day 2 pick for as opposed to having to reach for a guy at 29/30/50.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 10:24 AM

If they trade a 2nd and 3rd to move up for Jameson Williams....then he'd better be a top 15 WR in his first year in the league.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-14-2022 10:29 AM

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O.city 04-14-2022 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16245695)
That’s because you’re looking at it that way as opposed to the player.

I don’t care if he’s the “4th best DE on the class”, George Karlaftis is worth trading a day 2 pick for as opposed to having to reach for a guy at 29/30/50.

Isn't this a good edge class? Is the dropoff from him to the next guy or two big enough to trade up for?

O.city 04-14-2022 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16245679)
So are the NFL talking heads, some of whom know less about football than we do.

It's all just connecting perceived dots, and a pretty lazy effort at that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245680)
I'm leaning towards smoke screen. Could they trade up? Sure. But I don't see them moving up that far...and not for a WR.

Again, looking at who it's coming from I'd say there's some merit. Or they're covering some tracks.

I don't care what the national talking heads say.

When it's these two, there's something there.

staylor26 04-14-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245711)
Isn't this a good edge class? Is the dropoff from him to the next guy or two big enough to trade up for?

I’m operating under the assumption that a trade up would mean that they expect guys like Mafe to be gone too.

If not, a trade up isn’t really necessary, but I still wouldn’t be against it.

And if they trade up for Karlaftis and Mafe or Ojabo falls to 30, you’re pretty much set at EDGE by taking one of them. Mafe and Ojabo compliment Karlaftis perfectly.

O.city 04-14-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16245689)
Brett Veach is an assertive risk taker. He’s traded his first rd pick or traded up for players almost every year. With this many picks I don’t see how he doesn’t do it again.

Not sure what he’ll use but if we know one thing about Veach it’s that he will go get his guy. And I would not be surprised one but if that was a WR.

I'm very pro "trade for a DE before the draft" but it seems like it could be a situation where they go a different direction no one is seeing.

Coochie liquor 04-14-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245703)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> to host NDSU WR Christian Watson on top-30 visit <a href="https://t.co/SMwnL0DCgv">https://t.co/SMwnL0DCgv</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheChiefsWire?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thechiefswire</a></p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1514619584447275015?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That drop rate has me spooked.

O.city 04-14-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16245719)
I’m operating under the assumption that a trade up would mean that they expect guys like Mafe to be gone too.

If not, a trade up isn’t really necessary, but I still wouldn’t be against it.

And if they trade up for Karlaftis and Mafe or Ojabo falls to 30, you’re pretty much set at EDGE by taking one of them. Mafe and Ojabo compliment Karlaftis perfectly.

Or they don't like the guys they think fall to the pick and want who they want.

Similar to last year with Brown and LT, the guys they project to be there when they pick may not be what they want.

Shields68 04-14-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245680)
I'm leaning towards smoke screen. Could they trade up? Sure. But I don't see them moving up that far...and not for a WR.

I think at the very least the Chiefs are doing their due diligence in finding out the cost and who is interested in moving down. If the right player slides they may pull the trigger. I doubt they move up to 13 just to move up to 13. It is going to be after team 12 picks and knowing who they are going to get, if they do it at all.

I am guessing all the teams with multiple picks are wanting to know all their options. Things move fast when teams are on the clock. IT is almost too late to put it together on draft day so some talks, hey we maybe interested if so it would be x for your pick...

staylor26 04-14-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16245728)
Or they don't like the guys they think fall to the pick and want who they want.

Similar to last year with Brown and LT, the guys they project to be there when they pick may not be what they want.

Yea, we have no idea how they feel about Mafe at 29/30 and Ojabo’s injury.

I’m honestly open to just about anything except for trading into the top 15 or trading back for a measly 4th.

kccrow 04-14-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pretty near the same trade value I have but I have a 4th instead of a 3rd to get there. In any event, if they go up there, I can't believe it will be for a WR and if it is then I'd think it's not going to be for Jameson Williams. Olave fits what the Chiefs do to a T. I don't think Wilson is there but he's an A+ fit as well. If you're going to 13 though, it should be for a pass rusher.

O.city 04-14-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16245730)
Yea, we have no idea how they feel about Mafe at 29/30 and Ojabo’s injury.

I’m honestly open to just about anything except for trading into the top 10 or trading back for a measly 4th.

I still think they do something no one sees or is talking about. Be it a vet, or trade up or something.

O.city 04-14-2022 10:44 AM

Andy has had so much success developing WR's, I just don't think they'd spend that much capital on a guy.

I'd guess they wanna trade up but it's for a DE not a WR. Like in years past when they've made moves, some guys have the trade up rumor pegged but it's never for who they think.

scho63 04-14-2022 10:54 AM

Not sure we would pick CB with our first selection but I think the positions we will pick look pretty damn good to me

RunKC 04-14-2022 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16245719)
I’m operating under the assumption that a trade up would mean that they expect guys like Mafe to be gone too.

If not, a trade up isn’t really necessary, but I still wouldn’t be against it.

And if they trade up for Karlaftis and Mafe or Ojabo falls to 30, you’re pretty much set at EDGE by taking one of them. Mafe and Ojabo compliment Karlaftis perfectly.

I love the depth in this edge class. I really don’t see a huge difference between a Karlaftis and Sam Williams or a Mafe and Ebeketie.

I do see a big difference between the top 5 receivers and the rest though.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16245772)
I love the depth in this edge class. I really don’t see a huge difference between a Karlaftis and Sam Williams or a Mafe and Ebeketie.

I do see a big difference between the top 5 receivers and the rest though.

I don’t agree with you. After the top 5 edge guys….you’re basically looking at rotational guys for their first year.

KChiefs1 04-14-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Steron (Post 16245442)
I'd like to see a RB in there somewhere.....


James Cook instead of Kolar would have been my pick.


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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-14-2022 11:17 AM

I’ll be attending the NFL Draft. Any suggestions from anybody who has attended one before?

Couch-Potato 04-14-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245631)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade Idea I laid out this morning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/micdup?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@micdup</a> fellas:<br><br>Houston gets:<br>#29, #50, #103<br><br>KC gets:<br>#13 (draft Jameson Williams)<br><br>**trade is equal based on trade value chart**</p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1514611815740686353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A bit expensive, but I'm hoping we pull this off.

Could we get it done for #29 + 3rd + 2023 2nd instead? I'd prefer not to give up a 2nd this year.

If we move up for J Williams using #29 + 2nd + 3rd, I support using #30 to trade out of the first and recoup the lost picks. Maybe a 2nd, 3rd, & 4th with ATL?

Couch-Potato 04-14-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16245787)
I’ll be attending the NFL Draft. Any suggestions from anybody who has attended one before?

Slip Andy a note with your mock.

The Franchise 04-14-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16245799)
A bit expensive, but I'm hoping we pull this off.

Could we get it done for #29 + 3rd + 2023 3rd instead? I'd prefer not to give up a 2nd.

If we move up for J Williams using #29 + 2nd + 3rd, I support using #30 to trade out of the first and recoup the lost picks. Maybe a 2nd, 3rd, & 4th with ATL?

Why is Atlanta trading what amounts to most of their draft picks to move up to 30? Especially when they're a team that has a bunch of holes to fill.

crispystl 04-14-2022 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16245634)
****. NO.

Seriously **** that!


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