Jerick McKinnon returns to KC on a 1-year deal
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RB Jerick McKinnon returning to the Chiefs on a one-year deal, per source.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1536380816766513153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice

Nice.

Winding the frog for another Lombardi

Nice.

He's the best RB on the team. Start him.

CEH
RoJo
McKinnon
Pacheco

Only 3 stick. Going 4 deep in the offseason in case someone gets hurt in camp?

Nice

We just moved up in the RB rankings.


Maybe CEH can carry his jock.

Without looking at a breakdown of the roster, I'd imagine we need to keep all 4.

We can't expect CEH or Mckinnon to last the entire season.

Certainly looked like it at the end of last season. I agree, I think he should start too.

Cool, but it's kind of a let down because the signing could indicate that the other RBs in camp aren't impressing like they should.

I don’t know why we don’t move CEH while some people think he has value.

They don't even do running plays in OTAs. So it's hard to imagine they can tell much.

Great news.

I can't wait to see how our new look offense better utilizes our OL.

RB1

.eciN

Sounds like pacheco will get a shot to be the return man with Pringle gone. I could see them keeping 4 if he is the guy back there. I dunno.

Roster construction is going to be different this year as we are not going to ask much of our WRs to play special teams. Our LBs, DBs, and RBs will have to pick up the slack.

Any chance CEH would get cut?

Agreed.

Seems like it's him vs. Pacheco for the final RB slot and McKinnon was EASILY the best pure RB we had last year. He also demonstrated good pass-catching skills and solid Pass pro.

Durability is his biggest issue and we have the RB depth to deal with that.

And he's the kind of guy who is just as likely to get a soft-tissue hammy pull in practice as he is to blow his ACL on his 28th carry of a game. So when he's healthy, ride him. I'm not sure workload even matters with a guy like him.

So smoke it when you got it. I'd give Jones some 1st down work I guess, but 2nd and 3rd downs would be McKinnon until he breaks.

I'm just writing CEH off until he proves me wrong. He got EXCEPTIONAL run-blocking last year when you look up the 'expected YPC' figures. And he didn't even manage to get JAG level returns on it. He got less than his expected yards per carry. That's just damn rough.

If he takes the job back - bully. But I'm done counting on him for anything unless/until he forces my hand.

Fingers crossed

Not really - rookie deal is fully guaranteed so replacing him on the roster w/ Pacheco or McKinnon actually COSTS us cap space.

Maybe traded. But there's no cap benefit and ultimately I just can't see cutting him to keep a 7th rounder w/ lousy vision on the roster instead. But man, that would really demonstrate how bad that pick was, wouldn't it?

A little small to play DE but I like it.

He's just.....bleh...

I know injuries, etc etc.

He's a first round running back. Excuses are like assholes.

Hopefully Jerick doesn't feel too underutilized and demand a trade that's definitely, in no way at all, nope, no siree, not all about money, not even a little bit

Agreed.

On the middle part, I almost mentioned that we should keep him in bubble wrap until the playoffs; but I’m not sure it would matter. If he’s going to get hurt, he’s going to get hurt. We might as well ride him as far as we can.

It doesn’t look like we’ll have the luxury of holding anything back offensively throughout the season anyway.

We could have Jonathon Taylor right now! Lol.

**** me, this offense would be so nasty.

Pacheco and/or Ealy to the practice squad

But again - the 'old' offense yielded exceptional expected yards per carry numbers. I think it was top 3 in football.

It wasn't the 'utilization of our OL' that was the problem. Our RBs just really sucked. The team ran poorly because the RBs ran poorly, and that's pretty rare in the modern game. Usually your running game is as good as your run-blocking is. Few RBs really move the needle in either direction.

Our wasn't. CEH wasn't as bad as Taylor was good or anything, but Williams was, IIRC. Williams was getting 'more' yards less than expected than Taylor was getting OVER expected.

Our RB room was just trash. And honestly I still don't think it's all that good - but at least it's different enough to have a little bit of hope.

Yeah, he's here til that fourth year is over.

But damn.

If you say that 3 times looking into a mirror, HE will appear.

Let's be careful out there, boys...

noice

Let’s trade CEH and a 4th to the Bears for Quinn.

You probably could get him moved for a 7th next year just to dump the salary.

But why bother? It's like $1.3 million in savings and his bonus would accelerate so for this year it's pretty much a wash. Wouldn't get any real savings until next year.

Cap space isn't really an issue right now anyway since we didn't seem inclined to actually improve the DL much.

No, he has a cap hit of $2.95M, and if we cut him now his cap hit goes up to $4.17M. So, if he is getting cut, it will be next year, when we can save a little more than $2.5M

Probably have to use a 3rd, if it’s CEH we’re trading.

RoJo probably gonna get Carlos Hyde'd

I know we've hashed out the CEH thing over and over, but looking back....he just didn't really have the physical attributes to go in the first round.

I think you're definitely using revisionist history. He was an amazing back that last year at LSU

There was a lot of hype about his receiving skills, but Andy Reid does not seem to buy it.

Who was the QB and WR's on that team again?

I mean, I'm guessing you could have been a good RB there.

The problem turned out to be the vision.

He just looked like someone with the first step to get into seams, fight for hard yardage and keep you ahead of the sticks without being a game-breaker.

But he simply hasn't played that way. And I still think we failed in how we used him a bit - WAY too many outside zone runs. And on occasion that elusiveness did flash on inside zone. So there's still hope there.

But now we're going to see fewer cover 2 shell concepts so his job is going to be even tougher inside the tackles.

So I'm not sure what good he'll actually be at this point...

Which is sad, because we had our pick of running back that draft.

https://tenor.com/view/kid-sports-fa...g-gif-18301490
Serious swing and a miss.

Eh - his vision pops.

But I mentioned briefly in the draft thread on him that I worried a bit about his ability to be decisive instead of dance and wait for the hole. I figured it would be a rookie problem he got over.

He really never has. He's still too tentative in diagnosing plays and hitting them. We've talked about this several times - a guys vision doesn't just go away. But perhaps the speed of the game has neutered his agility to pick/pop like he did at LSU.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. This video is an example of his shiftyness and explosion that made guys missed. We're not seeing that at this level

https://youtu.be/qC08FDGddRU

Been saying this. Still could be useful though

**** yeah! Back to mop up duty CEH!

Lotta competition at RB.

He could run water out to the boys during a timeout. :thumb:

Running against light boxes and such in teh SEC made him look better than he was because teams cared more about the pass game.

Same thing happens in KC and he hops around and runs up a guards ass for 2 yards.

Real competition was all I was asking for for the RBs. They I'm glad they finally brought in something. CEH and Rojo dont give me the most confidence but at least we know what we have with Mckinnon. If the other RBs can rise to or surpass that level we cooking with grease

Yeah but we could also have Deshaun Watson, so… eyes forward.

Good deal.

Fixed

Approved. That has to get us above #30 in the RB rankings.

Good news


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Cool. Hopefully we use him from day 1.

Bears would rather have a kid like Allegreti.

Yep. This is exactly the problem. You can really notice it when you see him carry the ball and then on the next down, McKinnon or even Williams get a carry. CEH is a pro at running up the back of his offensive lineman.

Williams sucked worse than CEH.

By a LOT.

He’s awful.

He's awful? What games were you watching?

Sweet.

He’s been the best RB we’ve put on the field since…well…Jamaal left?

Great signing….he should be RB1.

Knile Davis at kick returns.

Ealy on protected practice squad (I think he may have a future here but bringing McKinnon back may prove that as false)

How quickly ye forget about our place kicker extraordinaire Kareem Hunt

Darrel averaged 3.9 ypc. He was not good.

That's a stretch considering what Kareem contributed with Mahomes at the helm.

Great news. McKinnon was arguably one of the best RB’s in the NFL during the postseason last year.

The Bengals might give us a 3rd or 4th round pick next year for CEH because he played with Joe Burrow at LSU. I think CEH’s biggest liability is he doesn’t have the size to be a good blocker.

FYP

Was looking forward to this, Yazzir!

Glad we brought him back. Was interested to see how Ealy did, and whether he might sneak onto the roster, but it feels like it'll be Pacheco to have someone who can block now.

I'm making no excuses for CEH but agree entirely with DJ on his usage being perplexing.

His biggest issue is his lack of speed on the 2nd level. The shiftyness is there. He's shown power too.

The problem is that the holes close on HIM moreso than you'd expect from an NFL back. They close on him fast because he doesn't have the speed to take advantage of the holes before they close.

He's missing a gear. It was something that was overlooked in college. I don't think myself (or anyone really) ever realized that his speed would be THAT much of an issue. No one thought he'd be a home run hitter. But no one thought it'd be so much a hinderance that he couldn't at least make the most out of what's there. If he could do that, there'd be no problem.

Like i said, he's missing that final gear.

He's a 3-speed Muncie when the world has moved on to 10-speed Autos.

Do you mean since Kareem Hunt left?

Which still wouldn't be true. Mckinon was good in the post season but bad like a whole combined 200 yards in the regular + post season

I don't understand the point of this signing TBH but he was highly effective during the playoffs so I'm not mad at it either.

Welcome back JMcK

Someone will suffer a hang nail and be put on short term ir.

And I believe his expected yards per carry was something like 5.6. He got some of the best, if not the absolute best, run blocking for any RB in the league with over 100 carries.

That guy is AWFUL. One of the worst RBs in football and probably the absolute worst to get the kind of volume he got. The Williams fascination 'round here is bizarre to me.

I think the problem is he can't find the hole, waits to long for it to open and once he finds it it's shut off.