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TribalElder 07-15-2022 05:15 PM

Will Orlando Brown Jr show up to camp on time?
 
Do you think obj will show up to camp or will he hold out into the season?

ToxSocks 07-15-2022 05:16 PM

You're missing an option.

C: He won't show up to camp on time, nor will he hold out into the season.

bobhill 07-15-2022 05:26 PM

Who cares

BWillie 07-15-2022 05:28 PM

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BlackOp 07-15-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16370301)
You're missing an option.

C: He won't show up to camp on time, nor will he hold out into the season.

This is what's likely...

At some point it becomes a number's game....if he were to pull a Bell and sit out. He's lost $16 million...which is $3.2 million a season over 5 years so it's essentially a break even scenario...it also puts him a year later into getting to his 3rd contract.

He doesn't deserve to get paid like a top LT right now...he isnt one. They will work it out...there is $100+ million on the table. I dont think taking nothing, sitting around for a year then hoping for something better is the play.

Kiimo 07-15-2022 05:33 PM

I'd be shocked if he showed up on time. What in his past has ever said that this is a guy who will work out if it isn't 100% required

TribalElder 07-15-2022 05:37 PM

I’m guessing he doesn’t show up until the season starts at which time he will be out of shape and a liability to put on the field

IowaHawkeyeChief 07-15-2022 05:55 PM

He's taking a big risk and bet on himself. If he was smart, he would show up on time, in shape, and try to have the best year of his career. However, I voted for the second option. Hell, it's not even like camp is a grind anymore.

New World Order 07-15-2022 05:57 PM

He'll show up a week before reg season starts.

BigRedChief 07-15-2022 06:04 PM

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Bump 07-15-2022 06:26 PM

I dunno, but espn said the Chiefs offered him 6 years $139 mill and that wasn't enough? **** this guy because that's really a lot for him.

TribalElder 07-15-2022 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16370351)
I dunno, but espn said the Chiefs offered him 6 years $139 mill and that wasn't enough? **** this guy because that's really a lot for him.

He was scared because there wasn't enough guaranteed dollars over the years. That to me sounds like he knows his play is going to go down hill or he is going to be lazy and suck at his position in the years to come. Why the **** wouldn't he bet on himself, this was probably his plan all along. Probably ****ed himself like Leveon Bell

Red Dawg 07-15-2022 06:35 PM

Greedy **** to pass on 65 mil. He came here fat after we gave him what he wanted. He wanted to play here and LT but now he wants to screw us over a few mil. What exactly can he buy with 71 that he can't with 65?

Bump 07-15-2022 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16370352)
He was scared because there wasn't enough guaranteed dollars over the years. That to me sounds like he knows his play is going to go down hill or he is going to be lazy and suck at his position in the years to come. Why the **** wouldn't he bet on himself, this was probably his plan all along. Probably ****ed himself like Leveon Bell

ya you gotta be careful with these types. We've been burned a few times on huge contracts and then their play just goes downhill. Justin Houston, Frank Clark are probably the most recent examples.

TribalElder 07-15-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16370358)
ya you gotta be careful with these types. We've been burned a few times on huge contracts and then their play just goes downhill. Justin Houston, Frank Clark are probably the most recent examples.

Eric Berrys last deal also comes to mind

Rasputin 07-15-2022 06:40 PM

I think he will. He is going have to prove his worth and if he is banking on himself then it's in his best interest to show up to camp on time and participate 100% and push himself above what he would do if he got paid the money.


He really ****ed up getting that agent and that agent ****ed up by not getting a deal done because other players probably won't want him as an agent, I wouldn't think?

$30,000,000 guaranteed just for signing a piece of paper.

BWillie 07-15-2022 06:40 PM

I think the Chiefs and Orlando Brown both made the right decision.

Kiimo 07-15-2022 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16370363)
Eric Berrys last deal also comes to mind

Eric Berry would’ve played with every fiber of his being with all the heart and soul and sweat and tears he could muster if he didn’t literally have a spike on the inside of his Achilles tendon threatening to shred it in two every time he moved. You don’t put Eric Berry in with those other two

Stryker 07-15-2022 08:26 PM

At this point, I DO NOT GIVE A RATS ASS! For HIS benefit, and wanting a boat load of gold coins, it is in HIS best interest to ball out this season so he can be considered by the league as worthy of said gold coin desires.

Draft 2023, DE and LT replacement. Keep as MANY draft picks as possible to move through the draft to draft desired players. MIC DROP! Let's RIDE! LMAO

emaw1979 07-15-2022 08:39 PM

He can’t afford to have another slow start to the season or having a potential injury which is common for players that sit out of training camp.

Titty Meat 07-15-2022 08:45 PM

Would prefer none of our starters play til the regular season

Stryker 07-15-2022 09:06 PM

To answer the OP? NO he will not show up. He has shown his stripes and has become a selfish $$$$ hungry player. Best of luck to him finding a foolish team to over pay for his services. Call me when he becomes a top 3 OT! LMAO

Rasputin 07-15-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16370511)
To answer the OP? NO he will not show up. He has shown his stripes and has become a selfish $$$$ hungry player. Best of luck to him finding a foolish team to over pay for his services. Call me when he becomes a top 3 OT! LMAO


I won't say he will become a top 3 OT but I think he will show up on time maybe a day or two late but he will get in there and practice hard so he can earn the same amount next year he would be offered by another team or less.

Of course winning the Super Bowl his price will go up, so he does have that going for him playing in KC. Maybe he isn't that dumb? Top 5 or not, winning the Super Bowl and being LT price very well could go up. We can win SB with but we can also find someone else in the next offseason to win more but much easier keeping the band together. Especially this offensive line. He needs work on fundamentals of pass blocking and if he can improve that then everything can fall into place.

To me it's all about his motivation to earn that coin and respect of the league how good he thinks he is.

Flying High D 07-15-2022 10:01 PM

Initiative doesn’t seem to be Orlando’s strong suit.

FloridaMan88 07-15-2022 11:30 PM

Isn’t “holding in” the new trend where players show up but fake injuries to avoid practicing?

bevischief 07-16-2022 12:02 AM

$16,000,000 plus or sit at home after only getting paid about $7,000,000 the last four years... Or don't get paid...

bevischief 07-16-2022 12:04 AM

Must be nice...

bevischief 07-16-2022 12:05 AM

Much be nice to turn down that kind of money...

ThyKingdomCome15 07-16-2022 12:51 AM

Man Veach is a shrewd negotiator... awesome.

As for Zeus, IDK. Clearly he will sign the tag at some point but if a deal is never reached then anything is possible. Unlike WR LT are very hard to find.

493rd 07-16-2022 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16370591)
Man Veach is a shrewd negotiator... awesome.

As for Zeus, IDK. Clearly he will sign the tag at some point but if a deal is never reached then anything is possible. Unlike WR LT are very hard to find.

He sure is. He understands the game is a bigger business and doesn’t **** around.

Simply Red 07-16-2022 06:31 AM

honestly I have no idea what's going on as I haven't been tuned in much to that thread - but I don't care (regarding the OP question)

BossChief 07-16-2022 06:16 PM

He won’t show up for camp, but I don’t think he misses a regular season game. To those saying he won’t be motivated…what planet are you from? This whole negotiation was centered around him betting on himself to earn an elite contract.

He’s not getting that by sitting out and being out of shape.

I expect him to not miss a regular season game, show up in the best shape of his life with improved technique and for him to have a career year.

He’s bet EVERYTHING on that taking place.

WhawhaWhat 07-16-2022 06:25 PM

He's a professional athlete with man-boobs. He's not doing any extra work that he doesn't have to which includes going to camp.

Coogs 07-16-2022 06:41 PM

The ramifications of this decision on our season loom large. Road game at Arizona followed by the Thursday nighter vs the Chargers. Can’t afford to come out with the line not in sync.

Chief Pagan 07-16-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16371078)
He won’t show up for camp, but I don’t think he misses a regular season game. To those saying he won’t be motivated…what planet are you from? This whole negotiation was centered around him betting on himself to earn an elite contract.

He’s not getting that by sitting out and being out of shape.

I expect him to not miss a regular season game, show up in the best shape of his life with improved technique and for him to have a career year.

He’s bet EVERYTHING on that taking place.

Yea, and he might have thought he was an elite LT that was going to get an elite LT contract after signing a newbie agent at the last moment.

I'm not yet convinced he understands how these things work.

BigRedChief 07-16-2022 06:51 PM

Didn’t he already say he will play on the tag.

Tribal Warfare 07-16-2022 06:55 PM

He'll drag ass but he'll show up because he wants to be "an all-time great" who's proud being a shitty athlete

Coogs 07-16-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16371094)
Didn’t he already say he will play on the tag.

Even so, when he decides to sign/report is kind of an important decision with regards to those first two games.

T-post Tom 07-17-2022 04:22 AM

If he does not, I will personally kick his ass at the George Brett statue.

Comanche 07-17-2022 05:27 AM

As usual, he will be slow getting there.

Comanche 07-17-2022 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16371078)
He won’t show up for camp, but I don’t think he misses a regular season game. To those saying he won’t be motivated…what planet are you from? This whole negotiation was centered around him betting on himself to earn an elite contract.

He’s not getting that by sitting out and being out of shape.

I expect him to not miss a regular season game, show up in the best shape of his life with improved technique and for him to have a career year.

He’s bet EVERYTHING on that taking place.

Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith attended the fifth-annual OL Masterminds summit and worked with Wille Roaf. Brown reportedly played TENNIS to prepare for the season. :harumph:

oldman 07-17-2022 06:01 AM

I think he'll play the season, $16+ mil is just way too much money to leave on the table, plus it doesn't show much to any other team. This guy isn't a Top 5 LT, and I'm not even sure he's in the top 10. I think he was foolish not to sign what we offered.

Red Dawg 07-17-2022 07:26 AM

OBJ was crazy not to sign the deal. If he is convinced he will get more after this year then his best play is to show up and dominate all season. Then a team may pay him what he wants. If he skips days that only costs him money for next year as well.

duncan_idaho 07-17-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Comanche (Post 16371243)
Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith attended the fifth-annual OL Masterminds summit and worked with Wille Roaf. Brown reportedly played TENNIS to prepare for the season. :harumph:

You know, for someone who needs to shed a few pounds and work on foot quickness, tennis is actually really good training. Intense cardio + a lot of muscle memory work on reacting quickly and making small, fast foot movements/reactions.

-King- 07-17-2022 08:33 AM

He'll be here probably 2nd week of preseason if I had to guess

Comanche 07-17-2022 10:06 AM

We'll see. Tennis won't do a thing for his technique. Lessons from Roaf would have. Herschel Walker and Lynn Swann both took ballet lessons. Ballet never became a thing either among NFL players despite its claimed benefits.

SAGA45 07-17-2022 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16371295)
You know, for someone who needs to shed a few pounds and work on foot quickness, tennis is actually really good training. Intense cardio + a lot of muscle memory work on reacting quickly and making small, fast foot movements/reactions.

Facts. A lot of explosive, lateral movements and flexibility required for tennis. Should definitely benefit OBJ as he seeks to improve against the speed rush. If/when he does report to camp, it wouldn't surprise me if he was at 330-340 lbs.

Rasputin 07-17-2022 10:48 AM

Fat man playing tennis ? Holee shit never have I ever seen a fat man playing tennis.

Chief Pagan 07-17-2022 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Comanche (Post 16371243)
Creed Humphrey and Trey Smith attended the fifth-annual OL Masterminds summit and worked with Wille Roaf. Brown reportedly played TENNIS to prepare for the season. :harumph:

Playstation or Xbox?

dlphg9 07-17-2022 11:09 AM

Holy ****. This thread is just full of ****tards.

RunKC 07-17-2022 11:11 AM

I bet he doesn’t show for camp but I think him showing up on time with everyone else would be a strong message to send to Veach and Andy

duncan_idaho 07-17-2022 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Comanche (Post 16371378)
We'll see. Tennis won't do a thing for his technique. Lessons from Roaf would have. Herschel Walker and Lynn Swann both took ballet lessons. Ballet never became a thing either among NFL players despite its claimed benefits.


But is it technique work he needs?

He needs to play lighter than he did last year and improve his first-step quickness.

Tennis is excellent for both.

Kiimo 07-17-2022 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16371414)
Holy ****. This thread is just full of ****tards.

Just fyi like 2/3 of your posts are swinging into a thread and calling everyone a reerun and nobody really enjoys that or is impressed.

smithandrew051 07-17-2022 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16371295)
You know, for someone who needs to shed a few pounds and work on foot quickness, tennis is actually really good training. Intense cardio + a lot of muscle memory work on reacting quickly and making small, fast foot movements/reactions.

Kinda reminds me of Rashard Mendenhall taking dance classes to help his balance

Flying High D 07-17-2022 01:03 PM

Tell Orlando there’s an all you can eat BBQ, he’ll show up.

Stryker 07-17-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16371408)
Playstation or Xbox?

It better be Nintendo WII! ;)

Comanche 07-18-2022 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16371506)
But is it technique work he needs?

He needs to play lighter than he did last year and improve his first-step quickness.

Tennis is excellent for both.

I played varsity tennis in college and taught tennis after that. I never felt qualified to become a left tackle because of the sport.

1. He is still learning the position so, yeah, he needs to improve his technique. Willie Roaf's technique put him in the HOF.
2. He needs to play lighter. If that means get his butt moving then yes.
3. Tennis will improve footwork for some. One off season of tennis won't help a 344 lineman improve quickness. Losing weight might but his major strength was his size.

We'll see. I would love to be proven wrong, trust.

O.city 07-18-2022 11:19 AM

I would hope he shows up and goes about his business, but I'm guessing he will not.

smithandrew051 07-18-2022 11:20 AM

We should have a poll on how much he’ll weigh


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