8/3/22 Training Camp Discussion
 

Here’s to no injuries.

I really just hope all our players do their best and have fun

Rain in St Joe today.

My favorite professional sports team, the Kansas City Chiefs are going to practice today!

LFG!

they're inside - no video today :(

Not gonna be much unless it comes from the press.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/tkelce?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tkelce</a> doing work at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsCamp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsCamp</a>. <a href="https://t.co/jLlOm6pv3V">pic.twitter.com/jLlOm6pv3V</a></p>&mdash; Steven St.John (@SSJWHB) <a href="https://twitter.com/SSJWHB/status/1554836339396382721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's ok. I'll get my ass to Best Buy right now and pick up some insider information for ya'll

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We may be seeing Skyy in the return game this season.. <a href="https://t.co/E3gClvbw1f">pic.twitter.com/E3gClvbw1f</a></p>&mdash; Steve Walls (@SteveWallsKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SteveWallsKC/status/1554834670885302279?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is such a nice thing to say, thank you! Sending good vibes their way!

Extremely relieved his hip is fine

aww sweetie! how nice!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It could shake out that way. <a href="https://t.co/jQ4mZJXzZa">https://t.co/jQ4mZJXzZa</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1554501151344807936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

what a massive group of WRs

Will be our best group collectively we've ever fielded. Wish Tyreek was in the mix with this group.

I like this Fountain guy but he has got too many guys ahead of him.

Just end the Gordon experiment now. Not worth it. He's too old.

Sorry the NFL ****ed you over, Josh. Best wishes somewhere else.

who would that be

He made this group possible so he's spiritually in the mix.

Gordon isn't going to beat him out and the remaining WRs are pretty much camp bodies.

Did Chiefs win

The offense will be better without Tyreek.

Yep. I have already put money on it.

How much?

https://www.chiefs.com/news/five-obs...ining-camp-8-3

Man i really hope Gay can stay healthy this season. He's the one i'm most looking at for a breakout year. The Chiefs need it and he needs it.

Willie Gay is going to abuse opposing offenses like a vacuum cleaner this season.

https://youtu.be/cr2YIlSHlEM

This guy WIll be one of the best!

I’m so ****ing ready for week 1.

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Lol at #10 and the Mahomes-JuJu snub.

Somebody should send that to Pat and JuJu

The fact there is no Allen/Diggs proves its a major troll

Says new combos

"New".

Allen/Diggs doesn't qualify.

This is a Mahomes/JJSS/MVS/Whomever slight.

I can see why Mahomes/JJSS etc wouldn't make top 5. There's nothing sexy about our new WR's. It's more of a slight to our WR's than Mahomes.

But 8,9,10 are bum**** reeruned.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� 5 from <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> ��<br><br>1) Name to watch: Isiah Pacheco. 7th-round RB (216 lbs w/4.3 speed) is lighting up camp. Got Kareem Hunt traits, a gear Hunt didn&#39;t have.<br><br>2) Juan Thornhill is healthy/showing versatility to play old Mathieu role. Hope is he &amp; Justin Reid = interchangeable.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1554913044098125827?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hell, so is 7.

How the **** is Brady/Gage better than Mahomes/JuJu?

Guess i'll be studying some Pacheco tonight. The hype train is full steam ahead.

Is that Wilson and Jeudy?

Jeudy has done jack shit. I should know, he's on my dynasty team.

Shit, now that i look more closely even 6 is a WTF.

Jalen Hurts can barely throw the damn football. He's got some sexy WR's but can he even get them the ball?

Yea, I was giving that one a pass because Brown is a stud, but the different between Mahomes and Hurts is even worse.

That's him. They probably had the picture ready for Patrick until he got hurt yesterday, so they threw his picture in there.

This could legitimately be the worst list ever created.

Is that who that is? Lol. I was wondering why they wouldn't have Evans, Godwin or Julio.

Keep us under radar.

Pacheco could be a savage in this offense. Get that midget Clyde on the bench and get this man on the field!

That can't be right. I was told he was going to be cut and that Ealy was better.

Interesting about Pacheco. When these national guys say stuff like that, it is usually based on chatter from coaches/GM rather than observation of a few plays. Tells me the guy is a lock for the roster. A little disappointing Kinnard's name not mentioned at RT. Struggling?

He looks like he could be a legit PR

;)

Kinnard got some mentions yesterday, sounded like a mixed bag... won a few, lost a few

Just watched gay’s interview and was really impressed also he looks a lot bigger than I realized.

Charles ran a 4.38... Pacheco 4.37 and 16 pounds heavier.

Obviously, it takes a lot more than pure speed to be a great RB... but this kid is a burner.

Nile Davis ran 4.37 at 225...so stats arent everything.

How long does Chiefs training camp practice normally last? We were going to come up one day next week but didn't know if it's an hour long, two hours long, there's not much information online. Just when it starts in the morning, but as far as how long each practice usually lasts, it won't give any information. So I'm asking the peeps who've been there so far, what time does practice usually end?

Kinnard might just have to be a guard, guys. That was always a strong possibility, and there’s nothing necessarily wrong with it. He’ll be an amazing guard, I’m sure

You guys there is nothing to learn from 1 on 1 line drills

He won't be alone in that. If the DL can keep the opposing OL busy, the trio of Gay, Bolton, and Chenal will surely **** some people up. It'll bring tears to my old eyes!!

I'm not worried about Kinnard. He's a 5th rounder that we knew was raw, at least for NFL play. My hope is he progresses enough this year to sit Wylie's ass on the bench or better, on a Greyhound out of town.

Did BV kill it again with Pacheco? I hope so. Let's get behind those hogs and run the ball right down the other guys' throats!!

Tell that to every coach in the NFL

I hope he's fantastic but his production at Rutgers was underwhelming. His YPC dropped every year and he never caught 20 passes. Hopefully this was a product of the rest of the team being terrible.

Anybody else penciled Pacheco as a late round stash in fantasy football?

He'll be an available FA in every league.

omg im so horny.

IMAGINE IF HE ACTUALLY IS WHAT WE BELIEVE HE COULD BE. IMAGINE SPEED LIKE THAT IN THIS ****ING OFFENSE OUT OF THAT ****ING BACKFIELD GOOD ****ING LORDDDDDDD!!! RAPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Rutgers was trash...especially their o-line.

Maybe. Could be a different story in deeper leagues, especially if he shines in pre-season. Toub has already locked Pacheco in as a return man. If you're in a league that awards points for return yards then that adds to his appeal.

:thumb:

Yep. I expected that, since most all the prognosticators said he would likely play a Guard in the nfl.

They would tell you the same. it's about working techniques with a live opponent. It's in no way indicative of actual ability.

1. there is no reading or reacting for the defender
2. the offensive lineman doesn't have another guy next to him. he's on an island, which literally never happens.
3. there's no QB adjustments, it's just a stationary target at the same drop back depth.

Mark me down for a Pacheco thrown TD pass this season

Been wondering all the same things. I've got some vacation I need to use up.

Light porn day

Always a good read for a quick hit of the day.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Observing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> training camp Day 7 — some notes on this thread... with practice indoors, we&#39;re limited due to reporting guidelines, so I&#39;m going to do it a little differently today — but stick with me. <br><br>Let&#39;s go:</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1554974411194777600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here’s a couple of interesting ones from that thread.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1) I think the Chiefs are richer at TE than I thought heading into training camp. Prior to a quad issue, Jody Fortson looked back to normal. But in Fortson&#39;s absence, Noah Gray and Jordan Franks have flashed. I think No. 83 may deserve as much attention as No. 88 is getting.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1554974421722570754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think it will be hard for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> to keep four running backs given the talented WR and TE rooms... and keeping in mind they will keep FB Mike Burton. <br><br>On Pacheco... He&#39;s reminding a lot of us of Kareem Hunt... except he runs faster, a 4.37 40-yard dash. (2/2)</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1554974425723928576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">5) I think the new-look balanced offense is going to take the pressure off Patrick Mahomes to consistently look down the field for the old No. 10. I think JuJu and MVS may finish closer in yardage than people think, giving KC a real chance for three 1,000-yard pass-catchers.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1554974429494509569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope he makes the roster

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Pacheco is a guy that I think will flame out when his lacking vision in real games is put unrest the microscope. I’m not a big fan of his, but Bienemy has taken marginal RBs and madd them into competent players snd in some cases borderline stars.

In videos I watched of Pacheco in college, his vision was terrible.

I’d love to be wrong about him, but I still see the Rb room as follows, in terms of overall ability…

1) McKinnon
2) Jones
3) Clyde
4) Pacheco

Maybe he needs glasses?

Maybe he just needs a real coach with a real system.

Assuming the vision thing is real of course, and not just some made up CP shit.

the problem is we don’t have a spot for another guard and IMO he can’t play RT in this league unless he drastically improves in skill set and technique.

I was there on the first day in pass snd focused on him multiple times and was consistently disappointed in his ability to compete with anyone on our DL.

He definitely flashed while I was there.

I had to ask who 84 was at least twice.

Now I haven't watched film but from what I understand, Pacheco's vision problems had a lot to do with getting the ball and immediately being hit by like four guys in the backfield. Like, he had happy feet because he was desperate to just get to the line of scrimmage.

That's not a great way to test vision for a RB in my opinion.

His QB, OL, team, and probably coaching staff were pretty bad.

Yeah that Rutgers team, specifically the O-line, was horrible. I feel like we may have gotten a steal in the 7th. A Bernard Venkman special, if you will.

His OL got virtually zero push and one lineman in particular looked like a turnstile.

Pacheco looks like he has great hands and can get to the edge and make people miss in space.
My gripe with him is it doesn't look like he knows how to set up blocks and make something out of nothing...which I think you have to do in the NFL unless you play for a team like the 49ers

How good of a pass-blocker is Ronald Jones? That could put him over the top if he's on the bubble, but if he sucks, who he is beating out to get a roster spot?