8/5/22 Training Camp Discussion
 

I think I read there is no practice today. We’ll see if there is anything coming out that is discussion worthy.

If there is consensus, I’ll be happy to not post a thread on days there is no practice. All good either way.

Chiefs r cool

The Kansas City Chiefs of the National Football Association's American Football Conference West Division are my favorite team.

Clay ate my baby

So Nate Taylor on the Times Ours pod hinted that Pachecho hype is in fact legit and Ronald Jones right now looks like he will be cut.

Also noted my guy Noah Gray is “different” and is taking reps next to Kelce bc he’s ballin. Oh and as referenced in this tweet:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The majestic white horse on a sandy beach has been basking in the St. Joe sun. <a href="https://t.co/gahWwhWTj8">https://t.co/gahWwhWTj8</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1555202695266459650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Does anyone know if the Chiefs are in pads on Saturday?

your baby wasn't making this team anyway

WELL PROBABLY THESE PUSSIES WEAR PADS, DRINK WATER, ONLY PRACTICE ONE TIME A DAY AND ARE ****ING SOFT

THEY ARE SOFT - NOT EVEN PRACTICING TODAY

I thought that was an OLB or Frank Clark covering him. I was stunned to find out that was 2nd round pick, Bryan Cooked.

Are multiple people seriously upvoting KnowMo's blatant troll attempt?

JFC.

LETS RIDE

Somebody needs to just ban his worthless ass. All he does it junk up our training camp threads. I know I can put him on ignore, but I don't see why we even allow him to post here?

1) Free country, and
2) 13 straight

Knowmo wreaks if needed validation. Coming to your rivals board and posting your teams stuff all the time. It’s the weirdest thing

Especially when you've already proven to be a front running coward.

This is not an indictment on any player, position group, or the team overall, but I swear, those red helmet pads makes it look like we have a team of Ronald McDonalds.

What else is he going to do? Have sex with a woman?

Pfft.

Good thing he won't be facing Mahomes when he plays Denver! Instead, he'll face a midget who can't see over the offensive line. LMAO

Baby steps.

Start with a sheep. Then work up from there.

Why not a donkey? :D

I'm with ya..My reason is he ALWAYS BAILS in October, so he's not around to face the the payback for the BS he preaches all season. He should not be able to come and go as he pleases. He needs to be made to pay a price for his idiocy.

Yeah it would be one thing if he didn't bail as soon as we get up 2-3 games on them.

Aaron Rodgers' back to back MVPs are real & they're spectacular

...as are Mahomes'

And on psychedelics!
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I've watched that Gray/Cook play a few times, and I'm of the mindset that in a real game situation, that's a contested ball. Cook seems to let off the gas, and we know from his college tape that he loves to initiate contact and *wreck* shit.

Even if he's a beat late to make a direct play on the ball, the receiver in that situation is definitely going to get hit hard.

Be sure to do it next to a cliff that way they push back

All these new numbers, I had to look up who is #6. So that's Brian Cook that Gray beat on that route. :thumb:

Oh, I don't know about that....coward maybe but "front running?" The Broncos haven't had so much as a winning record since 2016

Agreed.

He definitely let up.

No doubt as he should. **** injuries in training camp.

If you're cutting a back as talented as Ronald Jones, you've got a pretty solid RB room.

I'm confident that McKinnon is adequate, cautiously optimistic about CEH, and excited about Pacheco.

McKinnon might be the odd man out there.

I agree. Its not like he made the team from the start last year, correct?

Kinda seems that way, but not thrilled with that. McKinnon is the only RB on the roster who has looked like he naturally thrives in this offense in real games. It's a small sample size but it includes him shining for us in the playoffs.

Knowmoe is a closet Chiefs fan.

Until proven different, McKinnon is our best RB.

The only thing I think going against McKinnon is his age 30, that's like 60 in RB years. Yet he plays like he is in his yute.

He's a different runner than all the other guys. Probably our most adept pass catcher, too.

Jones got a 1 year $1.5 mill deal. If it's down to an either/or between those two, the money is nothing. Keep McKinnon.

Never say never, but I have a very hard time seeing them letting him go

Smooth mover, explosive, good hands... dude was nails at Ben Roethlisbergers retirement party

I'm not sure why you would think that when McKinnon is famously good at pass protection and Ronald Jones is famously bad at it.

Probably looking at TE 4 vs RB 4 to make the roster.

TE: Kelce is a lock (duh), Bell offers quality blocking and QB Sneak ability, Gray is excelling in camp and is a 2nd year 4th round pick we traded up for, and Jody was a fun story last year but is coming off a serious injury and has already been dinged up causing him to miss time in this camp.

RB: CEH is a lock, and I don't know who slots where after that.

I think it'll be Jody vs RB 4, and they'll duke it out during the next couple weeks.

It might seem counter-intuitive, but I'd much rather keep Fortson and let RoJo go... I just see too much potential in Fortson

It should definitely be CEH if it's between those two. Hell CEH might be the worst back on the roster at this point.

I'd rather keep Fortson than Grey myself.

Yep, I tend to agree. If he can make it back in time for the first preseason game and show he hasn't lost a step, it would be tough to move on from him. That wingspan and size could be critical on Offense and maybe even the FG Block team.

I'm not sure he'll even be 100% by preseason, IIRC he was injured in October so it hasn't even been a full year yet... that said I'd still rather bank on his potential coming to fruition later this season

As you say, he's freaking huge... not to mention he has hops and can actually catch

I can't see McKinnon getting cut no matter which way I look at it.

When he started playing at the end of the season and in the playoffs he immediately looked light years better than anyone else had looked the entire season. He ran fast and hard and he was freaking brilliant in the screen game.

I'm not one of the CP CEH haters, but if comes down to him or McKinnon I'm taking McKinnon every time. I know he has an extensive injury history - but I'd give him one more chance to show me those were fluke major injuries that no one could've avoided. It's not like CEH is an iron man, he's already had his share of injuries too.

I'm keeping McKinnon and Pacheco, and if we're only keeping 3 then it's between CEH and RoJo for the final spot.

The most likely plan for Pacheco is a PS stash. Bring him up when the one 3 guys who don't have the greatest injury history in front of him go down. Most likely all 3 will miss time at some point.

Doubtful. Seems like he's been hyped up quite a bit, wouldn't trust that he'd clear waivers.

Agree. If he looks anything like he's looked in camp in the preseason, then there's no way he clears waivers to get onto the PS.

I got ceh, pacheco, McKinnon and jones as my rb group.

If you HAD to let one go, who is it?

Again, you can't be the kick returner on the practice squad

With two being injury prone and one a rookie, I’d stash a TE on the IR.

Probably Matt Bushman. Gray is not going anywhere, neither is Bell. I'm pretty sure they will keep 4. I bet they go short on the OL, that's where they'll stash 2

He likely never make it past waivers, so that's not a swell option. I'd like to see a couple preseason games before I make a RB cut.

I think we keep 4 TEs, we did last year. Fortson was well on his way last year and is a big target in the endzone. Plus, he a converted WR, so he should have good hands. Gray has shown a lot of progress this camp. He's also a ST guy.

I thought he was back already? Didn't he just tweak his quad the other day and is out for just a few days?

Is that a metaphor for something else? We need pics.:)

Nubian Nut should post more. Great poster, better person.

Ceh he ok but he injury prone.

People forget that we had LDT sitting rotting on the bench just about the entire season and still kept 4 TEs on the opening day roster (Kelce, Bell, Gray, Fortson). We kept 10 OL at cutdowns last year. We're prooooobably not doing that this year.

There's room to keep 4 TEs and 4 RBs not counting Burton. There will be some pressure if we want to keep an extra DB or DL guy, but I don't think the RBs/TEs is where you rob the extra slot.

"Low key racist"?? The love of his life/wife who he has a child with is a WHITE WOMAN you fecking idiot ROFL

RB 3. Jones is cut. TE 4 to make room for Fortson. WR 6 Powell/Foutain are 5/6.

The offensive skilled positions have a few spots up for grabs, but Gray, Fortson, Pacheco and Justin Watson are locks.

Personally, I think Watson has the edge on both Powell/Foutain. Toub seems to be high on him for one. That's huge for the back of the roster.

Right. McKinnons thing has always been injuries. And CEH has had injuries. I could see availability being a deciding factor.

It’s some times ours junk that they’re running with that’s mediocre at best.

Earlier in the summer, Pete Schrager hung out in KC for a weekend with Veach, talked up Watson the next week on the show, that not only was Watson a roster lock, but that he would be a real contributor.

I could see that. I watched Watson's presser from a couple of days ago. Very impressive.

Would be beyond stupid imo. CEH AND Jet cannot be trusted to hold up for the entire season. So if both go down who have we got? Pacheco and Gore? Pacheco may be a stud but we dont know that yet. And last year they had Ceh, Jet, Gore and Williams on the roster so why take less now?

I would think that RoJo or McKinnon would probably clear waivers and sign on the practice squad. I mean, McKinnon was just sitting around waiting a couple of weeks ago. Not much market for him. And if Jones was willing to take a 1 year $1.5M contract, he obviously isn't in demand either. Plus, Gore will probably end up on the practice squad to bring up if needed. So, 3 RB makes sense to me.

Rojo turned down other teams to come to KC and is not on a 1.5m contract. Expecting a superbowl winning RB who just turned 25 a few days ago to sit on our practice squad behind an average guy like CEH is insulting and would never happen...so please get a clue.

I think that it's you that needs to get a clue. Look it up. Everything out there says that Jones did indeed sign for $1.5M. He got beat out by Fournette in Tampa and they didn't try to keep him around. Maybe you're overvaluing him? Last I checked, 25 year old running backs in high demand don't sign for 1.5M.

CEH is RB1, fellas. Best deal with that the best you can. He's gonna gonna ball out this year assuming he registers his first healthy season.

Short memories none the less.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmqcH7Nf3eU

The contract has a max value of 5m according to Yahoo sports and Tom Pellisero. Regardless your point was utterly DUMB and ignorant. Yes things didn't work out in Tampa just like things didn't work out in Pittsburgh for James Connor and what did he do last season for the Cards? Ceh and Jet ARE INJURY PRONE and Jones is not sitting on no damn practice squad so think of another idea because that one is garbage fullstop.

That won't last long as his body cannot handle the demands of the league.

Better check your sources. It's a max of $1.5M ($1.25M salary and $250K bonus) with only $500K guaranteed. It's a typical Veach "nothing ventured, nothing gained" type deal.

https://overthecap.com/player/ronald-jones-ii/6923