Potential cuts that could help the Chiefs
 

So, who we eyeing around the league that might get cut that could come in and help?

I had thought RT, but even if one got cut, I'm not sure Andy would insert him at this point if we signed him.

I'd say another DE or a DT would be beneficial.

I think we've gone away from those days, and instead of us poaching other teams, we have enough talent we may get a guy or two poached that we have to release. But maybe I'm wrong.

I’m looking at RB’s to fill out the roster to replace RoJo & Gore.


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What are the odds that other teams don't pick those guys up before us? Pretty sure most of them have to go through waivers.

I don't think that's the case on camp cuts, right?

I don't think there's a single player in the league who could make our roster.

I'm a highly confident fan.

Our 2-deep (and some of our 3-deep) is pretty damn solid.

Unless there’s a real surprise, I don’t see us making a major move.

I think we hold out and maybe make a deal later if an Odell Beckham type mid season cut or Melvin Ingram type trade presents itself.

It would have to be a player along the D line. A tackle to cut Saunders or another D end.

Oooh! Trading away our draft picks! Now you're speaking O.Shitty's language!

I mean, yeah, I'd love that. Trade next years one for Davenport and a 3rd

Josh Gordon

I'd have said we should probably look into whoever the Buccaneers cut at WR (they're super deep), but we're probably going to have to make some tough decisions there ourselves.

Please God no

There are none

You hate winning too?

An aging swing tackle might be better than anything we currently have.

That’s my biggest concern.

I don't see a thread on it, maybe it's in another thread, but the Chiefs have cut 4 players, including WR Omar Bayless, CB Lonnie Johnson Jr., T Evin Ksiezarczyk, and WR Gary Jennings. Johnson surprised me. I thought that he had a decent shot and the last CB spot. Looks like our rookies are outperforming him already. Nice.

I’d only be on board with something like the Melvin Ingram deal.

That was a 6th rounder for a player who was pretty good for us.

I wouldn’t want us to do anything crazy or make any splashes. I trust Veach with the picks.

Depends on service time.

4 accrued seasons = released. Less than 4 accrued seasons = waived.

So if it's someone on their rookie deal that gets cut, that guy has to pass through waivers. If it's someone on a vet deal, that guy is a free agent.

As to the OP question - hard to say. Obviously my desire is at DE but I don't see anyone getting cut that's better than, say, Sheldon Richardson, JPP, Benson Mayowa or Tre Flowers. And those guys are all FAs still and we haven't brought them in. Just seems unlikely that DL help is on the way.

So the other option you mentioned already is RT. But Reid prefers continuity on his OL over all else. I just don't see any way he brings in a street FA guy to replace Wylie. And I don't think Christian has done anything to cost himself a roster spot in that role.

I'd be surprised if there are any additions to the 53 at this point. Maybe a RB after they cut Jones? Someone with a little more bulk who can run hard between the tackles? Jordan Wilkins would seem like a possibility and a similar but better version of Darrell Williams.

Maybe a CB? I'd be surprised if anybody worth a crap is cut loose, but the CB room sure looks like suddenly we'll have a 7th round pick on the roster. That's...different. WR? These guys never have seemed to be able to quit Sammy Watkins.

Clelin Ferrell is sounding more and more like a cut candidate but as noted previously, he hasn't accumulated 4 years of NFL service time so he'd need to clear waivers. I'd be surprised if someone doesn't take a chance on him. He has about a $5 million cap hit for any team that acquires him - that's a little stout for a reclamation project w/ no team control left after this season.

But I wonder if the Raiders couldn't at least direct the landing and deal him for a 7th instead of cutting him outright. Surely somebody would give up a pittance of a draft pick to take a flyer on a former top 5 pick.

That WR #6 spot is open if Fountain, Powell, Gordon or Clements don't claim it. I'm not sure there's a guy we'd bring in this late to train up unless he has serious ST's value to add.

RT unfortunately isn't going to be solved by another team's roster cut. We'd have to explore a trade for someone like Jenkins or something like that, and I'm not sure Veach would find value in that motion. Wylie + Niang is likely where we live this year, but we've gotta solve that spot next offseason.

The #4 safety spot could be an area of focus, if they're not comfortable with what they've seen from Nazeeh Johnson (Rookie). If we suffer an injury or two there, we are exposed. We'd probably slide a CB to support in an emergency.

We already did that though.

That 4th safety spot is already reserved for Deon Bush.

Yep, completely forgot about him. Good call.


Man. Our roster is so deep with mid-high quality talent. There's literally only 1 or 2 spots on the 53 man roster that are "mid-poor."

And I'd be worried if the "mid" talents were all seasoned vets, but most are young with high upside that will learn & grow.

I said it in a different thread, but this could be the very beginning of an amazing run.

A 5th corner would be nice for depth. Not sure I trust Watson just yet

Yup. And Bush is a real solid player. I can't imagine him getting dumped for a camp cut.

CB6 is about the only spot I see that isn't pretty firm. Even WR6 seems like it's about 80% likely to be Fountain.

Jaylen Watson as the last DB on the roster seems like about the only real risk of getting turfed for a veteran cast-off. And you may have more success getting him onto the PS after cut-downs since other teams will have set their own PS and final rosters.

Or again, RB4 could be up for grabs at this point as well should the Chiefs decide they want to take 4 into the regular season. But they may just decide that Burton can be their power back.

Really like if a speed rusher would shake out somewhere. Maybe a CB as you said.

I'd keep 3 and Burton

Any other you add is gonna be about as good as your practice squad guy at that point anyway.

Gotta figure Lammons will be back. I really do hate that, though. Dude played 13 snaps on defense last year. These STs only guys just irritate the hell out of me.

You telling me you can't find a gunner that can actually PLAY?

Sure looks like 4 guys are locked in with Sneed, Fenton, McDuffie and some dude from a pisswater college in the Carolinas somewhere. Then Lammons gets his "Dave Toub Memorial Scrub Roster Spot". But like you, I don't trust Watson as a guy who will probably need to actually see the field next year and right now I think he's your 6th guy in.

They had Jaylen Watson speak to the media today. I may be reading too much into it but they don't usually let guys they plan to cut speak. I doubt it means that he can't be a cut but they must have some interest in keeping him to put him in front of everyone.

You’re going to be sucking that Joshua Williams dick by the end of the season. Mark my words.

Ok, so it's not just me who thought our gunners looked pedestrian. Phew.

They had Josh Gordon speak to the media last week.

So yeah - you're reading too much into it.

Though if the games started tomorrow I agree - Watson appears to be on the roster. But that doesn't mean he can't be upgraded.

I would love to flip a pick to the Bears for Jenkins and Quinn and just sit Jenkins.

Watkins is like the Packers #2 receiver right now haha.

Yeah I think you’re right here. We could use a serviceable swing tackle for sure. We’re thin AF there.


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Yup. Would definitely give a 3rd for it and would think pretty hard about a 2.

But as has been noted by others, the cap becomes an issue there. You’d have to give Quinn a new deal to help that year 1 hit and I’m just not eager to do that. I like Quinn for 2 more years but 3 or 4? Not a big fan.

Maybe you tack on some void years and turn his base into a bonus? But he may want to leverage his last shot at a decent contract more heavily than that.

Not many teams are looking better than a 25 yr old former 3rd round pick who's shown out in pass protection as their swing tackle.

Geron Christian isn't a big name, but he's exactly the kind of guy most teams have in that role. And he has some potential still. I wouldn't be eager to dump him for someone on his last legs just because I've heard of the guy.

At least one of those will be cut and maybe signed back to the PS. Our RB room is runneth over. We will not be trying to sign one from another team.

It's not runneth over with good options though. Unless RoJo had COVID or something that made him look terrible he's not going to make it if he doesn't turn it around. Gore couldn't catch shit and managed to fumble. They need to give Ealy a shot but even he hasn't had an impact of any significance that we've seen.

RT/SwingT and DL would be worth a look. Not sure what pops up if anything but I’d look at those positions. Maybe a WR or CB could be better than the competition for the last spot we have now, but probably not.

I agree with all of this. I think Maclin did one not long before they cut him. That was a cap thing but surely they had some idea.

CEH, McKinnon, Pacheco, and Burton are our RB/FB roster barring an injury. The rest will be gone or assigned to the PS.

What about signing Jason Peters and plugging him in at RT

Honestly, Andrew Wylie is better than old fart brokedick wrong-side-of-the-line Jason Peters

Get'em, unc!

I wanted him to make the team bad. I wish we would have gotten the Josh Gordon we wanted.

CJ Spiller

Man, his age just makes that tough. I dunno that I'd wanna do that.

He was cut and recut so much, he bled to death.

Borgonzi said they would be closely monitoring situations for player for player trades a few days ago and cited the trade for Ward. So maybe look at our deepest position groups for guys we might move in a swap like that.

Hence the Veach late round trade special.

DeMarcus Robins...

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I'm good with 3 RBs and Burton for a couple carries/receptions a game. We just got Shelton, so that makes us a little deeper at DT. We're 2 deep at DE. We're going to have some growing pains in the secondary at first, but most of these guys seem to know where they're supposed to be. Our LB corps looks stout. The only concern I have is RT, but I'm not willing to overpay or get stuck with a 1 year wonder. As usual, we have 116 WRs in camp and if we can't find WRs #5/6 that can play STs, we have a problem. No more Dieters, Kemps, Gordons, etc.

He and Shelton are fairly interchangeable. I would say the good version of Brown is better than the good version of Shelton, but I'm not sure either guy has a ton left in the tank. And purely as a space eater, Shelton is probably more effective.

I dunno that I see any real distinction between either of them, though. Shelton backed up Brown in '18 then the Patriots let Brown walk and replaced him with Shelton in '19 (where Shelton was arguably better than Brown had been the year prior). They were both 1st rounders out of the '15 draft and have pretty much been big ol' run cloggers their whole careers.

Doesn't seem worth the roster manipulation at this point. Just let it ride...

I would hope they don't see Shelton as the answer at DT if someone better becomes available. Also, counting on Clark to revamp his career and Mike Danna to take significant snaps does not equate 2 deep at DE in my opinion.

Shelton hasn't played a down for us, so let's just slow the panic attack. Clark is, by all accounts, much more effective than last year. I don't know what you call "significant". Is that 35%, 40%? While our base defense may be 4-3, we saw a lot of 3 man fronts last year.

In Veach we trust.

They might as well keep Gore considering mckinnon and Ronald Jones are on one year deals costing over 1.25m each. Mckinnon is thirty and Ronald Jones couldnt do anything with the bucks. That will at least let them give them some bodies for next year without having to replace the whole room with pacheco and CEH. He did look good with the ones in his limited time last year so we can give him some credit

Saw an ESPN camp cut prediction list from beat writers and I’d take these guys fr on that list:

Darius Slayton-Giants
Dane Cruikshank-Bears
K’Lavon Chaison-Jags….don’t think he’ll be cut
Justin Layne-Steelers

in that category I'd still love see kansas city's own rashaad white wo is with tampa land here should he be cut.no idea really who else tampa has for rbs

I wouldn't mind seeing if a couple of guys on that list could turn their careers around. I do also like Slayton and Cruikshank.

Wouldn't mind Clelin Ferrell, Denzel Mims, and/or Andy Isabella as reclamation projects.

Malik Reed would be far more tempting if we ran a 3-4, but even then I'd still look to sign him if he hits the street (and I don't think he will).

Me too! :thumb:

Dude, PLEASE, STOP! Hell no! Have you lost your mind? No, just NO!

Malcolm Brown anybody?

Talk of trading Claypool, due to the emergence of George Pickens, is interesting.

Yeah talk of trading him to the Bears. Not sure how that has anything to do with us

Claypool is inconsistent enough to drive both coaches and fans crazy.

And trading for Claypool after simply not drafting Pickens would be a slap in the face.

We already took JJSS who they've replaced with 3 better receivers. **** that.

I’ve been watching this kid on the Colts. Helluva returner.

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Whoever named Pittsburg, KS should be kicked in the pussy.

'better' like how?

If you're thinking of Shelton as a guy that plays the same position as Chris Jones, then you're mistaken. He literally doesn't. If you're thinking of Shelton as a guy that will play more like Nnadi, then you're on the right track.

This is space eater, first down/short yardage big, fat, immovable object stuff.

He's fine for that.

As for the second half of your post, who's counting on Clark and Danna to be the answer at DE? Did you miss drafting Karlaftis and signing Dunlap? I expect both to outproduce Clark and Danna, barring a big change in Clark's play. I think the team does, too.