8/25/22 Postgame/Roster Discussion
 

Seems to work pretty well to separate this from the game thread.

Hopefully Varch makes Ronald Jones into a draft pick!

I saw Joshua Williams screw up on a play therefore he's going to be cut!

I'd be fine with Ron Jon sticking around on the main roster. Give #10 a phantom injury and designate him for a return if necessary.

Your and idiot if you think Joshua Williams isn't making the team.

That's about all I've got.

Might still make the roster.

The guy can run the football. Can’t do a lot of other shit, but he can carry the ball. There will be game scripts and weather that makes that pretty handy to have sooner or later.

Yea, I think it's more likely than not that they keep all 4 RBs.

With Gore out Id assume they keep ROJO. And not that I want anyone to be injured, I like the upside more of Gray and Fortsen than keeping Bell

Really liking the depth at Tight End.

Gore had no impact on Jones, IMO.

Even before Gore went to the IR it was Jones or only 3 HBs and carrying an extra TE or OL.

If Jermaine Carter makes this team over Darius Harris it will be 100% pre-ordained due to contract status.

Because Harris has looked MUCH better than Carter.

Goodson forget to take the football with him

I just can't see any way that happens.

If we can only keep three TEs (Kelce, Fortson, Gray) I'd be fine with trading Bushman for a couple of 1st rounders.

God - Roderick Johnson is soooooooo bad.

Just cut him now. That dude was the presumptive swing tackle and backup LT and honestly he probably shouldn’t have even survived the cut to 85. He’s embarrassed the hell out of himself.

I wouldn’t even practice squad him. There’s nothing there at all.

Did you catch the moron who missed the block on the 4th down? Wonder who it was.

I believe it was him. That or they were supposed to triple team the DE. But something tells me that wasn’t the play design.

give me a backfield of rojo + pacheco exclusively pls

Dude. Your negative vibes got him hurt. Don’t stRt backpedaling now…o:-)o:-) :)

Let’s Reach has screwed us. Our third string/PS players are as bad as Dunvers starters!!!! We’re screwed!

27 guys to cut to get to 53. But there are about 57-58 that belong on an NFL roster. Hopefully they can get most of the cuts back on the PS.

Top 5 WR spots are locked up. Watson is the 5th. Gordon is gone. Who gets the last spot? Fountain or Coleman. I think that Powell is out. Coleman certainly made his case for the last spot with his returns tonight. I'm guessing that was enough to give him the edge, even though I like Fountain more.

MVS was in concussion protocol so that is why he didn’t play tonight and Bushman fractured his clavicle

Just got back from the game. Fountain looked much better than Coleman, IMO.

Almost hate to say it, but I think RoJo made his case in tonight's game for why he should make the cut. He was 8 for 43yds, and just appeared to run angry. He even caught a pass, I think.

Can't forget about McKinnon.

I don't think you can do that. As I read the IR rules, any player placed on IR before the waiver period must stay on IR all year. I think that's why we had to carry a couple guys past the official 53 man roster date last year. Once that date is passed, you can put them on IR/designated to return. If that's the case, Gore is out for the season and we may have to carry Bell/Bushman and cut a promising player.

i think Veach should think about re-signing Eric Fisher to back up OBJ. If OBJ goes down, we really don't have another starting-caliber LT in the garage. Or heck, give Fish the starting job and let OBJ spend a season learning how to play the position properly behind a more than competent LT.

Danna was living in the backfield tonight against a decent O line.

Agreed. Good experienced runner.

I'd normally agree, but I don't think we have enough cap money to do so. He was making $16M last year.

If Fish was still a starting caliber LT he wouldn’t still be a FA. I wouldn’t mind signing him as a veteran backup, but the added rhetoric about him being better than OBJ is incredibly stupid.

Bushman with a broken clavicle.

According to Heavy., Fish has already declined 9 other team's offers.
https://heavy.com/sports/indianapoli...allas-cowboys/

Now, I'm not saying that he can still play at his highest level, but he's a very experienced, smart football player, and can probably still show a rook like OBJ a thing or two about how to play LT.

You said to have him start over OBJ to teach him. I don’t deny there are a few things he can teach him as a veteran. All vet players should have some advice for the younger guys. Turning down 9 offers means he’s still holding out hope for an injury to be able to still play. None of those offers were to be a starting tackle after the season he had last year. He’s more likely to join Dallas with the Tyron Smith injury than anywhere else, but even then he’d be competing for a limited starting role with one of the backups.

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gameda...e-matt-bushman

I did say that, and I'm not completely sure it wouldn't be a good idea. Of course, I'm assuming that Fish is healthy, or at least healthier than he was last season, and that he could play at least 80% of the way back to his 2018 level. That's more than a couple 'ifs' for sure.

Doesn't mean it's impossible though.

Regardless, the chiefs tackle play outside of OBJ is not good. A solid backup that already knows the playbook would be nice to have.

That's usually about a 6 week injury. If we want to carry 4 TEs, the only soul left is Franks and he hasn't shown up. So do you carry either Bell or Bushman on the final 53 then place them on IR? They can come back after 4 games, so that would fit for Bushman's injury. Bell and a hip injury requiring surgery may be much longer. Take into account Bell is 31 and Bushman 26.

You know what I saw out of Williams? A guy with speed and coverage ability who was always RIGHT THERE but made some rookie mistakes.

I don't feel at all negatively about this guy.

Fuuuuuuuck put that guy on IR and keep him. He reminds me of Dalton Schultz

I'm leaning to carrying Bushman on the final 53 and then put him on IR/designated. I think Bell is probably out for quite awhile, if not forever (with the Chiefs) as he's an UFA in '23.

Has anyone ever heard of Bushman before tonight? I know I hadn’t….

Not once, was wondering where he came from, maybe Andy was hiding him as our new secret weapon.

I think if we signed Fisher, it's more likely to be in expectation that he'd play RT.

I think Jones deserves a roster spot after last night. He can take Bell’s.

Agree. It only makes sense. CEH and McKinnon both have injury concerns and Pacheco doesn't seem to be ready for the type of role yet. Considering that Rojo has a better ability to run between the tackles than either CEH or McKinnon it only makes sense to have him on the opening 53 man roster.

Man that would be awesome!

Agreed. That doesn't mean they'll do it.

If we're being honest, I wish we'd just switch to the I and stuff it down their stupid faces when they go light and drop everybody. Remember when Bellicheat did that? Just became a power run team if the scouting report said to do so. I mean we don't have Dante Scarneccia, but we have dudes.

Can you imagine the savagery we could unleash with Mahomes on effective play action? Or boots. I understand that taking options off the table for Mahomes to find isn't necessarily optimal, but Savagely devastating defenses through flexibility is.

Oh well, it won't happen, but we'll see if we keep ROJO around and maybe take a step in that direction.

FWIW Chiefs reached an injury settlement with Gore.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2022...ry-settlement/

Man that would be awesome!

People are still talking about Eric ****ing Fisher?

JFC

With the Gore injury, he makes the team.:spock:

I'm sure he turned down those offers because they were not starting offers. He'd be welcome here as a backup. Our OL is fantastic as long as they stay on the field. We get an injury, our OL backups look like shit.

I'm sure he goes to Dallas and starts.

If you fly us directly over that core, I promise you by tomorrow morning you'll be begging for that bullet.

I mean, small sample size, don't see practice, blah blah blah, but yeah. I was really impressed. Probably impressed as much making reads as the physical performance. I think there is something there.

Veach is something else. They turned over almost the entire back half of the roster. We actually have meaningful cuts coming, this team is so much better than it was a year ago, especially on defense.

Sorenson
DRob
Niemann
Slappy hands Badger

Just removing these guys has been a huge boost.

Yup. It’s really nice having a young and fast defense flying around the field showing maximum effort. That was sorely missing last year in a big way.

Not trying to get ahead of myself but damn this has a chance to be the best draft class in franchise history

I think the 2017 draft has that locked down, but it's looking like this one could be good.

The increase in speed on defense is noticeable.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/chenal_leo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@chenal_leo</a> they train the LBer position different in Madison; they all know how to play and do it with the urgency of a “5 Alarm” fire. Like trying to budge a cinder block. <a href="https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BadgerFootball</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefskingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefskingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/NjdyeYOlb8">pic.twitter.com/NjdyeYOlb8</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1562921793853210624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

not sure where to post this, fire away.

Just another piece that I think can be utilized in the red zone to make this defense incredibly difficult in close areas. Id use him as my Sam inside the 20.

That's a badass white boy

I think this defense is gonna ball out unless spags overblitzes

I'm imagine early, that's the plan. They've been playing him alot inside this preseason, which would be nice to have in a year or two when you have to decide between Gay or Bolton theoretically.

If it comes down to only keeping one of these two it is an easy decision for Bolton. He is more important long term to the D and he is just a better overall player.

I just heard Josh Gordon got cut


edit: looks like it isn't official but...



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was it a paper cut from turning in his play book?

Is this the thread for cuts?


Because Andy Reid did NOT give Ronald Jones a ringing endorsement in my opinion

What did he say?

If true, it's for the best. Dude is done.

They asked him about RoJo and he said "I thought RoJo ran hard. He had good vision. I didn't think he did anything to hurt himself."

which sounds good but then he continued saying something to the effect of we'll see what happens down the road here and immediately josh brisco and jason anderson were like yeah uh he doesn't add that last part to, say, Travis Kelce. That's a red flag about a possible cut.

They're talking about it now:

https://v7player.wostreaming.net/8008

Holy shit LMAO

Yea, just an embarrassingly awful take.

Never trust anything that 810 says. They are a joke.

Okay :rolleyes:

OBJ is a rook? Seems weird. If we're going to compare football to chess, one would think the entire OL most closely relates to the pawns

Shit. Its going to be a long 2 weeks guys.

Nice little breakdown there by Baldy. Thanks for posting

No, he's not an actual rookie, but he's very young and inexperienced, right? My point was, he still has tons to learn. And right now there's not a single LT on the team that has much to show the kid.

Prove me wrong, I guess. Is OBJ already a savvy veteran that doesn't need a mentor or not?

You are a ****ing moron