Suggested rule changes for the NFL
 

1. No more Thursday games. Should not have to play on 3 days rest. Exception Thanksgiving let Detroit and Dallas have their games for tradition.

2. In a 7 point game if the trailing team scores a TD they must go for 2. Example if team a is up 7-0 in the 1st Q and team B scores a TD to make it 7-6 they must go for 2. If team A is up 31-24 with 10 seconds left and team B scores they must go for 2.

3. If you line up to go for it on 4th down you must go for it. So sick and tired of "just trying to draw them offsides." You can't call TO and a delay of game is a turnover on downs.

4. Less timeouts. 6 TO's per team is a joke. Especially with the 2 min warnings, stoppage at the end of quarters and countless free TO's for commercials and reviews. Add to that coaches "I will never take a TO to the locker room!!" mentality and the games can be painful to watch. The NHL has this right and the NFL should follow. One TO per team per game. I'll admit redzone with 7 hours of commercial free football has spoiled me and between the TO's, penalties, reviews, and 100 pre snap whistles a game I get really bored watching stand alone games. Let's speed up the games

5.Enforcement of roughing the passer/late hit/unnecessary roughness. NFL should take another cue from the NHL here. NHL rules state you cannot check from behind or drive someone into the boards but this rule is broken about 20x a game. It is usually only called when the impact is hard and it does damage to an opposing player. They don't call soft shoves from behind and the NFL should not call RTP when a hand grazes the QB's helmet. Some RTP calls the QB doesn't even go down it's just a push in the shoulder. I'm talking about you Brady and Rodgers. If the QB is getting right up pumping his fist and celebrating RTP should not be called.

6. Intentional grounding. Rarely called because if the QB takes 2 or 3 steps to the left or right grounding the ball is legal. Just get rid of the penalty for intentional grounding but any pass that doesn't get to the line of scrimmage is a live ball. Would be very exciting and would stop all these check down Charlie QB's from boring us to death with their dink and dunk

What are some rule changes you guys would like to see?

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1) Im ok with this


2) no


3) no


4) not sure about this


5) i kind of agree, but might be difficult to enforce properly


6) definitely needs a look at the rule, live ball is a bit extreme though

Many years ago I said it should be legal to knock a WR out of bounds before both feet came down..The league agreed with that one

Damnit Jungle Law, we know it's you. You can't fool us.

Agree on 3. If you line up to go for it and back out, automatic 15 yards for being a turd. No TO allowed. Be a man or don’t line up.


Also no TO on FG attempts after the kicker is lined up. It’s more chickenshit turd behavior and there’s no evidence it even works anyway. Ice him anytime before if you want, but once the huddle breaks it’s one kick to win or lose

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I feel like the OPI vs DPI penalties need balancing.
It is so easy to draw DPI on an underthrown deep ball.

Remember the raiders game where we were called for DPI or holding like 4 times on the final draw, and the raiders won on a clear push off for a TD?

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An NFL game should never, ever, under any circumstances, end in a tie.

It's too radical for the NFL, but I'd like to see one of these startup leagues try eliminating the punt, and make the teams go for it on every 4th down.

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I would like to see 6 kicks allowed per team per game. A kick is defined as a punt, XP or FG. The internet might blow up because of bad coaching decisions though

Agreed. Suggestion #2 would help a lot with that

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It's ridiculous how WR's can do almost anything to DB's with no consequences and a DB gets called for the slightest of contact. The underthrown err back shoulder throws the refs are completely unfair to DB's. Reminds me of the play 2 or 3 years back vs Baltimore when Jackson threw up a prayer, the WR pushed our DB in the back fully extending both arms, was even reviewed and they said "not offensive PI"

7. Stop making a season ticket holder buy preseason games

8. No scheduling of birthdays during NFL games

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I would adopt the “spot and choose” OT proposal that Belichick and the Ravens suggested.

I’d also like the higher playoff seed get to choose their opponent.

What... Many dumb ass teams jump, if they don't go for it they burned a timeout.

Home team gets the choice in OT (and might as well at the start of the game, too), no more coin flip bullshit... especially in the playoffs where you've earned HFA.

Has this motion been 2nded?

2. Get rid of London games and start playing games in Placencia, Belize

I'm glad they cut it down to 3 preseason games but I could see them cutting it down to 2. Just to see who makes the team and to give some prep time for the guys who need it.

Not a fan of any of those proposals, but, pass interference remains a terrible problem. How many times are we going to witness Brady throwing it down the field in the 4th quarter to the 5 yard line and get a call - ridiculous. I think 4th quarter calls should come from New York only inside the 20, and never result in a first down. They get half the distance to the first down marker and get the down back, and a repeat penalty, consecutively results in a 20 yard penalty.

Yes..football isn't going to catch on in Europe or Mexico or anywhere other than America. They love their soccer and that's just the way it is. Quit screwing teams out of a home game. Baseball too, so stupid for the Yankees and Red Sox playing in London

**** Dallas and Detroit on Thanksgiving. Get rid of those shitbag teams. Detroit always sucks and Dallas’s entire division sucks. Put some quality games on for a change.

**** Dallas and Detroit on Thanksgiving. Get rid of those shitbag teams. Detroit always sucks and Dallas’s entire division sucks. Put some quality games on for a change.

I'd be fine with maxing out PI at 15 yds. I agree with no automatic 1st downs either let the yardage speak for itself. Nothing worse then the defense making a stop on 3rd and 12 and the zebras call a ticky tack defensive holding. It should be 3 and 7. Giving them another shot is bad enough dont need to give a 1st down. It would be like in baseball hitting a batter or catcher interference not only resulting in 1st base awarded but automatically reset the batting team to no outs.

I want the Chiefs to have a bye week between every game, and Dungver has to play every Thursday and Sunday.

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Yes, this!! And can we give Inmen his privs back??

I would like to see the NFL get rid of field goals and extra points. Force the teams to go for 2 points. **** losing a game to a kicker.

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Sorry my thread that I put a lot of thought into and is about football is getting in the way of the 800 or so threads about things that have nothing to do with the Chiefs or football. If it's so bad just ignore

Sweet. I can’t wait for every pass that travels over 16 yards and looks like it will be completed to end in a pass interference on purpose. That’ll make the game more watchable.

Preseason games don't count and the starters play very little. The games should be free to attend.

Start with the most obvious. The 2 minute warnings exist because the referee kept the official time of the game. Now, the official time is on the scoreboard and everyone knows exactly how much time is remaining. Any coach that is unaware of how much time is left is just stupid. If we must have a 2 minute warning, then just announce it. No timeout.

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Jeff Van Gundy and I agree with you

Just assuming he does because he usually agrees with reasonable rule changes to make the game better.

All but number 1 suck shit. God you'd make the game suck a butt!

Here's an actual good idea, Defensive Holding is no longer a god damn automatic 1st down. Actually I think DPI and facemask are the only penalties that should result in an automatic 1st down.

So you would like more timeouts/stoppages/pre snap whistles, more ticky tack roughing the passer penalties, more QB taking a couple steps and throwing it away and less 2 point attempts? Whatever floats your boat

Agree and already said that ITT

Not more timeouts, but 3 is perfect. Especially with end of the game play. What's more exciting then knowing you have Patrick Mahomes and 1:30 seconds to score a game winning TD or drive down for a game winning kick.

I agree, I just think there is enough stoppages of play. You already have free timeouts anytime there is a review or a penalty. Also spikes are allowed. I'm showing my age here but I remember when the QB had to throw it in the direction of a WR to stop the clock

6 timeouts was probably the right amount back in the day, but it was a totally different game. The games moved along a lot faster. Teams ran the ball much more. I think Starr and Dawson had about 50 passes between them in SB1. The great Pittsburgh and Miami teams had 2 1000 yd rushers. QB's didn't have a radio to the coach in their helmet and huge playsheet/wristbands on their nonthrowing hand. Teams didn't run the hurry up until it was desperation time. No stoppages for instant replay. Just a totally different game now.

On one hand, I think fewer timeouts would really hurt the last two minutes of a game... OTOH, the last two minutes of a game has gotten pretty damn insane in recent years. And not just :13, but with certain QBs you know a team is going to get in FG range with a minute left or only 30 seconds left.... if not go down and score "too quickly" because the other team can score in 20 seconds. For Mahomes specifically, we thought the 2018 AFCCG was impressive before he on-upped that one.

So, I could actually see that one, except it would give the Mahomeses of the world even more of an advantage.... it doesn't water down the product, which is the NFL's main goal.

Anyone who whines about the NFL being rigged should be banned from watching the NFL. And definitely banned from posting about it.

6. Intentional grounding. Rarely called because if the QB takes 2 or 3 steps to the left or right grounding the ball is legal. Just get rid of the penalty for intentional grounding but any pass that doesn't get to the line of scrimmage is a live ball. Would be very exciting and would stop all these check down Charlie QB's from boring us to death with their dink and dunk

If every ball was live that didn’t make it to the line that would take spiking the ball to stop the clock out of the game. I actually enjoy that suspense

At some point I just wish they'd quit ****ing with the game.

1. I do like having football to watch on Thursdays but, I agree that it sucks to play on a short week. At the very least, they should make it so that the traveling team gets to play the earliest possible game on the Sunday prior.

2. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Nope.

3. No.

4. Again, this is dumb, dumb, dumb. Some teams use these timeouts wisely to strategize. Or sometimes a coach calls it because he sees his defense is not set up properly and will probably give up a huge play. You'd be taking away from the game.
Nope.

5. I agree that this one is questionable. It is called differently depending on the player. I don't like the ticky tack calls.

6. Nope. This rule is just fine the way it is, IMO.

Edit: One more note on #1. Why is it that the tradition is that Dallas and Detroit get home games every Thanksgiving? I hate that tradition. Put other matchups on that day. F@#$ those two teams!

Yes!

I second it. :rockon:

I like the fact that they cut out one preseason game. I don't like the fact that now there is 2 weeks between the last week of preseason games and the first week of the regular season. :mad:

This.

Don't get all the hate for #2. We can agree to disagree but I don't get why you guys want more XP kicked and less 2 pt attempts. Would make the game more exciting and much less likely to go to OT and reduce the possibility of ties.

You're worried about ties? Ties in the NFL are rare. OT games, while not rare, are certainly not all that common. And even so, the OT rules could be changed. I think the game is exciting enough as it is. Forcing teams to go for 2 is just trying to turn NFL2K into NFL blitz. It's not a good idea. Just my opinion.

While I agree that there are rules that need tweaking, most of your proposals just make no sense.

1. Totally agree. Thursday night football is just wrong. Keep the 2 (or 3 for hardcore folks) games on Thanksgiving and move along.
2. Nope. Takes the decision out of the coach's hands.
3. Ahhhh-NO! Seriously, that happens maybe once or twice a game (on average), so let's not tinker with such a small item.
4. Well placed timeouts are part of the overall strategy. I'd support getting rid of the change of possession TV timeouts, but you're fooling with the NFL's most prized possession, money. More commercials, more bucks.
5. While we have some Emmy-winning actors in the NFL (Brady), the vast majority of those roughing calls are justified.
6. The intentional grounding penalty is just fine. Checkdown passes are part of the game. They all don't have to be 30 yard bombs. Many 3 and 4 yard gainers contribute to the overall success of the team.

Don't back down, it makes you look weak and FOS. You're ideas are shit but you have a right to post them. Other posters will pick them apart and call you an idiot. Welcome to the Planet.

are players more likely to get injured on Thursdays after they played on Sunday?

There are some NFL rules that I would like to see relaxed some, such as holding. It's a physical game, let the biggest and the strongest win. It would also make it easier for the officiating. It could still be called but stop with ticky-tacky calls

On your rule suggestions.

1. Yes

2. No, Let coaches coach.

3. No. Sometimes a team does go for it. It is part of the game.

4. No. Good teams know how to use their time outs. They would just add more commercial timeouts if you did that.

5. I could maybe see this but they want to protect the franchise QB at all costs. Also don't want QBs being cheesy soccer actors rolling around on ground until they get a penalty called.

6. Maybe, but don't want to more that officials have to watch for. The ball would have to be clearly short.

I know some others have mentioned it in some way, but PI has gotten ridiculous. At no point should a defender have to move out of your way to give you access to the ball. He has position, you need to find a way to go around him.

That and WR pushing off has gotten ridiculous, probably one of the things that makes me want to turn off the game.

If you are going to stick with this stupid new OT rule of both teams getting the ball, even if the first scores a TD, then no extra points or going for 2. That way I don't have to watch a team go for it on 5 4th downs to tie the game just to win on some goal line play.

I really like this idea. I have always hated rules that ask the referees to make a judgement as to whether something happened. For reference, think of the QB "in the grasp" rule, or the rule on whether a receiver "would have landed in bounds if not for the defender." Asking the referees to make judgements like these distract them from officiating penalties like they are supposed to do. Furthermore, if there actually are crooked referees, rules that give them the judgement to determine plays like whether the QB was in the grasp are perfect opportunities to influence the outcome of a game.

Any rule change that takes away judgement calls from the referees and leaves them only with the power to call whether the ball passed the line of scrimmage or not sounds like a great idea to me. This is exactly the kind of rule change that improve the game and reduce the amount of bitching at the refs that occurs in every contest.

ETA - Two really good things are accomplished with that rule change.
1 - The referee is no longer making a determination as to whether there was a receiver in the area. This is highly subjective and can vary wildly depending on who is making the call. The change makes it so the referee is only ruling on whether the ball hit the ground before the line of scrimmage or not and that could be reviewed pretty easily.

2 - We no longer have to sit through determinations of whether the QBs arm was going forward or not. If the ball comes out it's a live ball just as long as it doesn't make it to the line of scrimmage. No more interminable reviews on the QBs arm.

1. Disagree. Keep Thursday night football. It makes it more likely that I'll be able to watch the Chiefs whenever they play.

2. Disagree. Let coaches have different strategies.

3. Disagree mildly. It's annoying, but part of the game. However, defending teams should not be allowed to call timeout on field goal attempts. The whole 'icing the kicker' thing is a waste of time.

4. Disagree mildly. I don't really notice this as a negative unless it's the reason that coaches "ice the kicker".

5. Somewhat agree. Incidental contact shouldn't be called, like when the referees gave tom brady a super bowl by calling a penalty on Chris Jones for brushing the tip of his face mask from three feet away. If refs can distinguish roughing the kicker from running into the kicker, they can distinguish roughing the passer from brushing the passer. It would be ideal if roughing wasn't called unless the QB went down, but I don't want to encourage flopping so I don't know how to implement that.

6. Agree with a twist. I like the proposed rule of making it a live ball if it doesn't reach the line of scrimmage. I would also consider a rule addition on out of bounds throws. You put a wire up around the field (all four ends) that is 10 feet past the sideline and 8 feet in the air (or whatever distance is enough to ensure that it'll never interfere with a receiver). Any pass that goes over that wire is a loss of down atop the incompletion. So if a QB goes back on 1st down and chucks the ball up into the stands, it's an incomplete pass and a loss of down. So now it's third down.

Defensive holding (aka "the brady drive sustainer rule") is the scourge of our era. I'd be fine allowing pushoffs on offense if we would eliminate defensive holding from the rulebook. Let the receivers and defensive backs duke it out.

It also makes lots of money for the NFL, so it is here to stay.

But will the Amazon deal affect you being able to watch the Thursday night games?

Should be a 5 yard penalty with no automatic 1st down.

It appears as though the op wants to remove some of the strategy and just have more action. I like the strategy in sports. Of course now a days most people have no attention span so...

I'm sure it's been mentioned but pass interference should not be spot of the foul.

It'll never happen, but the Super Bowl should not be at a neutral site. It should always be at the home stadium of the highest remaining seed. No extended halftime either. Super Bowls feel "Disneyfied"...a spectacle for casual and non-fans, rather than the actual football fans who have been watching all season.

That is exactly right. I love watching red zone every Sunday 7 hours of commercial free action, but single games bore me. I literally feel like I'm watching commercials with a smattering of plays in between.

Big 3rd and 4 late in the game. "blue 22 hut HUT!! hut HUT HUT!!" timeout just trying to get them to jump. Commercial. Line up again timeout defense just wanted to see how they line up now the defense wants to talk it over. Commercial. After 7 or 8 idle minutes a play is run. Was his knee down before the ball got to line to gain? Was that ball moving when he we rolled over? Gotta have a look at it. Another commercial. Just gets frustrating and tedious to watch.

40-50 years ago 3 TO's per half probably was the right number. Teams ran the ball about 60% of the time and huddled after every play so the clock melted much faster. QB's weren't in constant communication with the coach through their helmet so sometimes they needed to call TO and talk to the coach. Spiking the ball to stop the clock wasn't allowed. There were no free TO's for replay. Just isn't the case today. All these TO's aren't necessary like they were when the 3TO's per half rule was made.

I know this will never change because it is a business and the max stoppages/ commercial time is what the NFL wants but I can dream

Ok but what about spiking the ball to stop the clock?

Fumble!

1. Eliminate roughing the kicker. If you make a reasonable attempt to block the kick you should be able to smoke the kicker.

2. Make pass interference a 15 yard penalty. They call is so often. I really dont know why teams just dont go deep everytime.

College football does DPI correctly. The NFL should do it that way.