**OH-FISSHUL Replace Eric Bieniemy with Matt Nagy THREAD**
 

You are wearing Nike gear, Andy.

Just do it.

Replace them both.

I'm down

****ing sucks we couldn’t get a couple 3rds out of him.

Of all the ****ing awful coaching hires that take place every year in the NFL, why couldn’t just one team make THIS one awful coaching hire?

The league obviously knows things that aren’t publicly known.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Always remember who has 51% of the vote on what the Chiefs offense does, and it&#39;s not Eric Bieniemy or Patrick Mahomes.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1574105013097582596?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


You all acting like Eric called that lol

Interesting that the camera crew knew to stay on it. Like there’s a precedent.

Friction creates fire. Let’s see if it’s a good burn or a bad burn.

EB need to go to Iowa City and be the Hawkeyes OC.

If he turns the Iowa Offense around he will get whatever job he wants!

EB to Nebraska

Kick the FG!

EB is a total tool at this point.

/Team Mahomes

Fire them both. Start fresh.

Starting to think JuJU isn't what we hoped.

Toub can go.

They wanted to not resign him in the offszn. Just get it over with. He's a hot head. Like it or not Mahomes is a little fragile. It costs us in the AFC championship when EB bitched out Mahomes at halftime and Pat went into a shell the 2nd half. The more confident Mahomes is...the better he is. Know how to communicate with ur most important personality

Running game nowhere today.

Damnit. He dropped it.

OMG! HOLYN****

CP need to all STFU about easy wins. There are no easy wins. We should be killing them and we are mot.

Not sure why it would matter when you have a LT who can’t block and WRs who can’t get open.

Think it's a good challenge. Looks a bit short

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EB to Ballboy!

FAX

Mahomes is 'fragile"? Lol, come on with that. Maybe it's Bieniemy that needs to learn to shut the **** up and not create drama with shit play calls.

Or maybe the loss is moreso on the actual play caller and head coach, Andy Reid, and not Bienemy.

Wait until the end of the season and if EB is a head coach somewhere we get 2 thirds.

If not, cut him, make Nagy the OC, and find some way to flirt with Sean Payton for the next few years.

He's not getting a HC gig

Cinci….and now this.

One makes the offense special….the other makes drama.

Reassign EB to College Offensive Draft Scout.

Not seeing the upside of EB being OC, when shit isn’t working..he and 15 get into yelling matches.

Another failure on offense just before half leads to arguing on the sideline and in the locker room, and then the team loses a game they should've won. I'm already tired of seeing it. This **** has to go. I'm surprised he was even brought back.

What does EB bring to this team?

Seriously asking.

Our RBs are garbage. Our playcalling is lackluster, he doesn't mesh well with Mahomes, which is pretty important if you're the offensive coordinator.

He's dead weight to my eyes.

Who, along with Reid, is responsible for final say on personnel decisions, including RB?

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/cust...pic30873_7.gif

All the race baiters better see why he didn't get a head coaching job and it isn't bc of his skin color.

No. I'm acting like Bieniemy was the one arguing with my quarterback on the sideline.

Funny how every time eric barks at patrick the entire offense comes out flat for the rest of the game.

Exactly. Eb needs to shut the **** up

Imagine Mahomes without EB

Mahomes wanting to run a bigger play

EB knowing our oline is shit and mitigating any further damage

Both of those sentiments are fine, its the way they communicate with each other thats problematic

Mahomes is obviously our future so the other participant in these toxic exchanges needs to go

Mahomes is pretty laid back. What would Brady have done?

Regardless, Mahomes never got in a public exchange with Reid or any other coach. I’m sure he has disagreed with calls before. It’s a respect issue.

No doubt

Something needs to give, and that something is EB

Id hire Leipold as o-coordinator

Brady forced the Bucs to fire Bruce Arians.

It's a high stress environment. These things happen. You show up to work tomorrow and start fixing problems.

whatever field your talking about, your boss says do this, you get in their face about it publicly, it doesn’t end well for someone. WhoEver has more value to the company stays, the other goes. We all know who’s got the short straw in this case.

If what you say was true EB would have been gone 2 years ago. It's not and you're not.

Do you have any idea how often shouting matches happen between players and coaches? Literally every week.

What do you think the Bills' OC is going to say to his MVP QB tonight?...

It’s obviously a thing when the broadcast knows to stay on them going into the half and then it was Wolfson’s bit going into the 3rd quarter.

It’s a thing, it’s been a thing enough times for the telecast to finally highlight it during the game.

It’s a real thing. The degree to which it’s an obstacle can be debated but it being a real thing on the sideline for all to see and in the locker room can’t.

Best quote of the day! Let’s see what this team is made of next week. This loss sucks, but it’s week 3.

Remember when it was Andy sitting with Mahomes when defense was on the field and now it’s Nagy?

A lot has changed with this team from our SB winning season. Mahomes used to talk to Andy after the offense was off the field. He used to fire up the team. It used to feel like a family. Now it feels like an organization.

Clark doesn’t have enough money to get another owner to hire EB as a head coach!

We never should have brought him back after that disastrous second half against the bengals.

It's not a real chiefs season until rabble calls for a coach to be fired.

https://twitter.com/nflrt/status/157...hFg9VqgmIojUBQ

Shady McCoy throwing fuel on the fire.

Not long it seems.

EB is not a leader. He's a divider.

This is why he can't get a head coaching job. Grown men simply do not respect him.

I’ve been more than patient with EB. But there seems to be plenty of smoke that players have gotten tired of the shtick. Something in the body language changed the second half of the bengals game and it’s not something we’ve really seen from an Andy Reid coached team.

Heres what bothers me most though….

Today, it looked like we were expecting cover 3 and ended up getting cover 2

Last week it looked like we were expecting deep zone and we got heavy blitzing

Our game plan especially this week doesn’t look like it adjusted a single bit. If our OC isn’t calling plays shouldn’t he be able to pick this up. Because it sure looked like our game plan never changed even though we were scheming against the wrong defense.

I am just amazed that Gus Bradley changed it up.

Last year, our guys wrecked us twice when he was our DC.

#Cursed

He’d be a good fit in Lincoln.

Team hasn't really been the same since the 2020 SB loss. We are starting to see some cracks in the armor of the team. Two meltdowns against the Bengals last year and this disaster. At some point, the message becomes stale and the player lose faith.

At times, it looks like the team just expects Mahomes to always save them. The NFL has adjusted to Andy and Patrick, can they adjust to the NFL?

I had hoped that it wouldn't happen in KC however, teams struggle when the QB gets the big salary and the players around them get traded over money concerns. Why did I think it wouldn't happen here?

I think this is a fair observation. It doesn't feel like we're as strong as we might be at identifying and shifting focus. If we're honest some of these problems were also present last year. I don't think everything is on EB at all - the OL under Heck is not holding up as well as expected and Toub deserves plenty of grief for the ST performance this week.

BUT, I think there are points where a new voice is needed alongside some fresh ideas. The grass isn't always greener but sometimes you've got to give it a go.

Don’t fumble inside the 5, make your field goals and extra points, and don’t extend drives with dumb penalties. Chiefs are fine. They fell into a trap game against a desperate team and still almost won despite gifting the Colts 10 points and leaving a bunch of points on the field.

I doubt they do anything remotely resembling that kind of performance again the rest of the season.

The AFC West looks atrocious — don’t get too down on this one game — we have a screw up like this every year. If we still host the Championship game in January it won’t matter.

Im not in any panic by any stretch but being in a position to barely win against an 0-2 team isn’t much to celebrate. The problem is that In back to back weeks our offense, our strong suit, has outright sputtered and it’s a carryover from last season. So far we don’t seem to have solved issues we had all off-season to figure out. We still have two vertical guys out there when what we need is guys who can win short and beat man. Our scheme in back to back games did not adjust to the defense they threw at us. As much as Patrick has not been sharp it does not look like he’s given the players or the scheme to be successful.

We have to hope and pray that Pacheco shows something he’s struggled to show us. I like skyy moore but we have to hope he is not only good but good enough to have a trickle down effect where our WRs can start beating the coverages we couldn’t beat last year.

Because it’s not too late to make adjustments if we don’t. If we don’t have the right coaches for this, if we assume Eb is unfireable then bring in a special consultant. If we don’t have the right WRs or RBs in the room then go out and get one. Corey Davis for example has been rumored to be on the trade block and he could be an interesting option for us.

On top of that from a coaching perspective we need new ideas. Bieniemy is not an Xs and Os guy. I think Nagy will be fine but we need someone with an actual plan to beat zone because to date we still think we are going to beat this by throwing a bunch of speed vertical guys. It’s not like we need elite personnel but right now it’s looking like we have some of the wrong personnel. We can’t have 0 rushing yards against defenses daring us to run. We can’t have mvs and Hardman on the field at the same time. Hell, our original plan was to put hill alongside mvs, maybe even hardman too.

So the question remains… do we think Pacheco or rojo solves our running game? Does skyy moore help us beat the deep zones and man coverage like we think they will? Right now it looks like the league’s adjustment is to date our receivers to beat them. And they haven’t proven they can. How much can you do with an offense where the defense doesn’t at all respect the run or the pass?

yeah I mean I don't disagree but like they called a fake fg on 4th and 10 and the last play of the half they call a run. mahomes shouldn't take shit like that personally but I mean c'mon that is kind of an insult to his abilities. I can't say I wouldn't have called EB a reerun if I were mahomes

I don't want Nagy as the OC either. Understandable that EB may need to move on. No matter what player you are, can't argue with your coach on the sideline though. Not the place. It gives the appearance of not being coachable. Handle that shit in the locker room.

We need to make Mahomes happy. If that means firing Bienemy then we should do it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes vs Eric Bienemy. Wow.<a href="https://t.co/QmTz8swPk7">pic.twitter.com/QmTz8swPk7</a></p>&mdash; Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1574105399820779521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just get him the **** off the team, he clearly can design run plays for his ****ing players. Constantly trying to make shit work that doesnt work. Cute plays when we dont need them.

W T F are we doing.

Mahomes is what 27? Even if Mahomes is pissed and yelling at him, EB shouldn't have engaged. Looks like EB said something to piss Mahomes off which he should have saved until the cameras weren't on them. Pat doesn't look like he's ready to start arguing until EB says something (or responds to something Pat says). EB's job is to handle that shit and be the more mature one

Easy fix, if EB is the one calling plays, give that duty back to Reid. If Reid is the one calling plays, take EB out of the loop. It's nonsensical that they have the system they have at this point.

Sounds like EB is just Andy Reid's "bad cop" while Andy plays the good cop with the players. We all know Reid is the one running the offense & the team, which is why nobody will give EB a head coaching job.

I don’t know if it’s Bienemy but Mahomes looks “reigned in” this year.

Bieniemy is calling the plays. Like Chris Simms notes, sometimes our offense has no rhyme or reason, or not building one play off another.

Does that sound like Reid to you? Bieniemy was over due LAST season.

Maybe there’s another collaboration underway for another (s)hit piece. Clay took 2 Soggy Shane loads last night and another this morning.

I’ve said since day 1 trusting a former running back as OC was a mistake. Nagy, Kafka, and Pederson were all former QBs with infinitely more understanding of an offense.

I was a little nervous about it but look, EB was great for us. It’s really not his fault that some of the extracurricular stuff led to him being stuck with us where, in my opinion, we would have otherwise moved on. But he is likely 2 years past his usefulness and I think he’s proven he’s got a little bit of an abrasive personality that might be better suited for college level where you can churn and burn players.

I don't care if Bienemy stays or goes, I just find the week to week wild fluctuations amusing. Seems like just yesterday the majority of people were all "Tyreek who? We don't need him. Offense hasn't missed a beat ..."

One loss later and Bienemy has to go, trade for another WR, Moore is a bust...