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Megatron96 10-13-2022 03:23 PM

This is the Future of the NFL
 
I watched the Herd last night on YT and he brought this up, and unfortunately i agree.

The NFL is never going to relax their restrictions on how a QB may/may not be tackled, and the league wants QBs protected even more than ever before, as w saw the fallout after the Tua thing.

So forget highlight reels of pass rushers lighting up the screen with a dramatic game-changing sack sooner rather than later, people. It's heading rapidly towards two-hand touch on the QB.

But in the very immediate future, we can look forward to this example of how the league is going to want QBs 'sacked.'

https://www.nfl.com/videos/maxx-cros...ack-on-mahomes

What do you suppose Pat's dress size is anyway?

Pepe Silvia 10-13-2022 03:24 PM

They will still allow Mahomes to be hit.

sedated 10-13-2022 03:29 PM

We should definitely all freak out

Marcellus 10-13-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16527603)
They will still allow Mahomes to be hit.

Mahomes is literally the face of the NFL and has already forced 2 OT rule changes in 4 years.

The league doesn't have anything out for Mahomes, you all need to get over your PTSD from pre-Mahomes.

loochy 10-13-2022 03:30 PM

Yup. It's going to be just like when we were kids playing neighborhood ball in the street.

AdolfOliverBush 10-13-2022 03:34 PM

If ratings drop significantly because of this (they won't), the NFL will modify the rules. The league cares about making money above all else.

BWillie 10-13-2022 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16527603)
They will still allow Mahomes to be hit.

Mahomes really doesn't allow himself to be hit. I've never seen a Chief QB slide and run away from contact more in my entire life. Now Im happy he does it. He should continue doing it. It will hold large dividends later in his career. Guys like Lamar and Josh Allen routinely let themselves get into harms way and it'll catch up to them

Spott 10-13-2022 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16527614)
Mahomes is literally the face of the NFL and has already forced 2 OT rule changes in 4 years.

The league doesn't have anything out for Mahomes, you all need to get over your PTSD from pre-Mahomes.

The rule change this year only became a rule because it benefited Mahomes against the Bills. The league had absolutely no problem with the rule when it benefited Brady in the same situation 3 years earlier.

Lilmrp117 10-13-2022 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16527635)
Mahomes really doesn't allow himself to be hit. I've never seen a Chief QB slide and run away from contact more in my entire life. Now Im happy he does it. He should continue doing it. It will hold large dividends later in his career. Guys like Lamar and Josh Allen routinely let themselves get into harms way and it'll catch up to them

This may be true when he takes off running, but unfortunately he takes a lot of hard hits hanging in the pocket. I'd like to see the team protect him better by improving the Oline and designing more quick short passes and runs for games where mahomes is under heavy pressure, which seems like a lot these days.

Zebedee DuBois 10-13-2022 03:47 PM

The last sack of Mahomes, the defender moved ("Threw?") Patrick from the right side of the defenders body to his left side, the same as the sack of Brady that drew a flag. I'm not saying it should or should not have been called, just that it is not consistent.

DRM08 10-13-2022 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16527635)
Mahomes really doesn't allow himself to be hit. I've never seen a Chief QB slide and run away from contact more in my entire life. Now Im happy he does it. He should continue doing it. It will hold large dividends later in his career. Guys like Lamar and Josh Allen routinely let themselves get into harms way and it'll catch up to them

He takes a ton of hits throwing the ball. Cardinals, Chargers, Colts, Raiders have all smashed him quite a bit this year. He was very fortunate against the Bucs that his knee or ankle were not ruined on that crazy TD play near the goal line.


https://i.imgur.com/aOqKdWV.jpg

HemiEd 10-13-2022 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16527603)
They will still allow Mahomes to be hit.

Exactly, they keep letting him get pounded. It ****ing pisses me off.

Megatron96 10-13-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16527653)
He takes a ton of hits throwing the ball. Cardinals, Chargers, Colts, Raiders have all smashed him quite a bit this year. He was very fortunate against the Bucs that his knee or ankle were not ruined on that crazy TD play near the goal line.


https://i.imgur.com/aOqKdWV.jpg

We're fortunate that Mahomes has double-jointed knees.

Pepe Silvia 10-13-2022 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 16527656)
Exactly, they keep letting him get pounded. It ****ing pisses me off.

Goodells orders.

HemiEd 10-13-2022 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16527653)
He takes a ton of hits throwing the ball. Cardinals, Chargers, Colts, Raiders have all smashed him quite a bit this year. He was very fortunate against the Bucs that his knee or ankle were not ruined on that crazy TD play near the goal line.


https://i.imgur.com/aOqKdWV.jpg

Exactly, he is the recipient of a lot of late hits. I keep waiting for a flag and they never come.

poolboy 10-13-2022 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 16527664)
Exactly, he is the recipient of a lot of late hits. I keep waiting for a flag and they never come.

I predict one coming Sunday

scho63 10-13-2022 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16527616)
Yup. It's going to be just like when we were kids playing neighborhood ball in the street.

You mean when I was running at top speed for a TD and someone pushed me hard from behind and I went flying to the pavement and when I put my hands out to break my fall that my palms got torn up like they went through a cheese grater and slowly bled all over and I had small pieces of sand all embedded in my palms mixed with oozing blood and then when I checked my knees they have slivers of skin curled up while a nice trail of blood found it's way into my sneakers.

You mean like that? ;)

the steam 10-13-2022 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16527624)
If ratings drop significantly because of this (they won't), the NFL will modify the rules. The league cares about making money above all else.

I don't know. 2 weeks ago I asked my 19 year old son and his buddies "Want to watch Mahomes vs Brady?" They barely paid attention for the 10 min or so that they watched. Yet they are glued to the MLB playoffs and were all glued to the Bruins Caps last night. I straight up ask them why they aren't interested in football and get answers like "It's almost flag football." "It's rigged." "NFL isn't a competition it's a reality show."

I'll probably never stop watching because I've been a fan 40+ years but a lot of people are really getting turned off by the officials completely taking over the game.

Raiderhater 10-13-2022 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 16527646)
The last sack of Mahomes, the defender moved ("Threw?") Patrick from the right side of the defenders body to his left side, the same as the sack of Brady that drew a flag. I'm not saying it should or should not have been called, just that it is not consistent.

That sack also happened after the RTP call on Jones. Still no flag.

If Mahomes played for Dallas, Green Bay, LA or any other league favorite markets/franchises he gets that call the majority of the time.

RealSNR 10-13-2022 05:10 PM

If 2 hand touch or some form of it had been in place Mahomes’ entire career, how many spectacular plays would we have been denied because the play would be blown dead?

Too many to count.

The league won’t do that.

Coochie liquor 10-13-2022 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16527614)
Mahomes is literally the face of the NFL and has already forced 2 OT rule changes in 4 years.

The league doesn't have anything out for Mahomes, you all need to get over your PTSD from pre-Mahomes.

What?? Do you think Mahomes gets the same RTP calls Brady/Rodgers/Burrow get??

Megatron96 10-13-2022 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 16527795)
What?? Do you think Mahomes gets the same RTP calls Brady/Rodgers/Burrow get??

He does not. Though the reality nearly no QB does. Tua will going forward, so long as MIA remains relevant.

digger 10-13-2022 05:30 PM

no flag for this:
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Megatron96 10-13-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 16527831)
no flag for this:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/k8c-E-nzzco" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yeah, and I loved how they said "it was nearly identical to the Brady sack," okay yeah they were both twisted and thrown down, but as i recall, Brady was almost gently laid to rest, while Pat was pretty violently slung down. Brady gets the flag, Pat, well, apparently **** him.

BlackOp 10-13-2022 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 16527664)
Exactly, he is the recipient of a lot of late hits. I keep waiting for a flag and they never come.

They never come because MGM prefers tight games...and the Chiefs are the bane of their existence when it comes to point spreads.

They dont want to actively help KC score more...notice how both ridiculous penalties on Jones came on possession changing plays?

Bump 10-13-2022 05:47 PM

It's going to eventually lead to no touching of the QB allowed. No pass rushing, defensive players won't be allowed to cross the line of scrimmage and will just have to sit there by the line waiting to make sure he doesn't run and if the QB does run they still won't be allowed to tackle them. That's the future

DRM08 10-13-2022 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16527859)
They never come because MGM prefers tight games...and the Chiefs are the bane of their existence when it comes to point spreads.

They dont want to actively help KC score more...notice how both ridiculous penalties on Jones came on possession changing plays?

How about the Raiders holding penalty on Chiefs missed field goal? KC got 7 points on that drive instead of 0 after the missed kick.

HemiEd 10-13-2022 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 16527859)
They never come because MGM prefers tight games...and the Chiefs are the bane of their existence when it comes to point spreads.

They dont want to actively help KC score more...notice how both ridiculous penalties on Jones came on possession changing plays?

Yes and both games the Chiefs were pretty heavy favorites with most of the Vegas bets placed on them.

Just coincidence I guess. :(

the steam 10-13-2022 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16527905)
How about the Raiders holding penalty on Chiefs missed field goal? KC got 7 points on that drive instead of 0 after the missed kick.

Make up for the ridiculous roughing the passer. That call was just as bad

Megatron96 10-13-2022 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16527905)
How about the Raiders holding penalty on Chiefs missed field goal? KC got 7 points on that drive instead of 0 after the missed kick.

Yeah, that one was just as bad, maybe worse.

JustDíqLix 10-13-2022 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16527905)
How about the Raiders holding penalty on Chiefs missed field goal? KC got 7 points on that drive instead of 0 after the missed kick.

Still don’t know what the refs were looking at on that one.

MagicHef 10-13-2022 06:45 PM

I think everyone will be wearing giant puffy helmets before long. It'll look like bobbleheads playing football.

MarkDavis'Haircut 10-13-2022 06:46 PM

If Mahomes becomes seriously injured on a play, they will institute a new rule.

That is how the NFL operates. They are reactionary. Injuries to Brady and Rodgers led to the no sacks at knees and the full weight rules.

The new rules only come around when the star QBs are hurt.

Carson Palmer in 2003 had the same injury as Brady. No response.

But the backlash this weekend probably has the NFL thinking that this protecting the QB has gotten out of hand.

htismaqe 10-14-2022 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by the steam (Post 16527978)
Make up for the ridiculous roughing the passer. That call was just as bad

No it was not. It was a text book penalty.

htismaqe 10-14-2022 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16527998)
Still don’t know what the refs were looking at on that one.

They were looking at a penalty.


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