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T-post Tom 10-13-2022 04:57 PM

Any William Jackson sightings In Leawood Yet?
 
Chiefs Urged to Trade for Former 1st-Rounder in Potential NFC Fire Sale

William Jackson III wants a fresh start, preferably with a scheme that he believes better fits him.

Sources say the former big-ticket, free-agent cornerback would like a new home, and the Commanders have engaged in trade talks centered around him with hopes of making that happen. There has been interest in Jackson from several teams, sources say.

With the NFL trade deadline looming on Nov. 1, the likelihood is that Jackson is traded long before then.

While Washington plays the Bears tonight, Jackson did not make the trip to Chicago.

He was listed on the Commanders' practice report this week with a back injury. A former top cornerback and starter, Jackson was pulled last week early in the Commanders' 21-17 loss to the Titans.

Head coach Ron Rivera was asked after the Week 5 game about the decision to sit Jackson, and he said, "We just decided to make a change. ...We make decisions based on the flow of the game."

Jackson told reporters that he was battling the back injury.

"I fight through it for my teammates, but you know, things happen," the cornerback said Sunday. "Just seemed better to let somebody else go in."

A first-round pick of the Bengals in 2016, Jackson signed a three-year, $42 million contract during the 2021 offseason with Washington. It was front-loaded -- the Commanders have paid about half of the deal already -- and if another team traded for Jackson next week, he would count just $3.8 million against his new team's salary cap. He has a $5 million base overall this season, but six weeks of it are accounted for.

Once a key cog in the Commanders' secondary, Jackson is not frustrated specifically with the team.

Rather, he considers himself more of a man-to-man cornerback and Washington has run a lot of zone thus far. When Jackson signed, he envisioned himself as a true lockdown corner, covering a team's top receiver.

It hasn't worked out that way.

Now, Jackson could find himself with a new home.

https://www.nfl.com/news/commanders-...st-fresh-start

TribalElder 10-13-2022 04:59 PM

I could be wrong but I don't believe veach pays up for cb talent

MIAdragon 10-13-2022 05:00 PM

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T-post Tom 10-13-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 16527759)
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Kansas City Chiefs
The Kansas City Chiefs are once again looking like a serious title contender. At least on offense. While they haven’t been as bad as years past on defense, the same old passing deficiencies still exist. They are ninth worth against the pass in 2022 and have missed safety Tryann Mathieu. A player like Jackson III would be a nice addition to improve the unit for a title run.

https://sportsnaut.com/william-jacks...ommanders/amp/

T-post Tom 10-13-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16527757)
I could be wrong but I don't believe veach pays up for cb talent

History says you’re right…but Veach is versatile. Given the right opportunity, I think he’s more than capable of a few surprises. :)

Rain Man 10-13-2022 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527767)
:thumb:
Kansas City Chiefs
The Kansas City Chiefs are once again looking like a serious title contender. At least on offense. While they haven’t been as bad as years past on defense, the same old passing deficiencies still exist. They are ninth worth against the pass in 2022 and have missed safety Tryann Mathieu. A player like Jackson III would be a nice addition to improve the unit for a title run.

https://sportsnaut.com/william-jacks...ommanders/amp/

Someone at sportsnaut is not watching the games.

The Franchise 10-13-2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527767)
:thumb:
Kansas City Chiefs
The Kansas City Chiefs are once again looking like a serious title contender. At least on offense. While they haven’t been as bad as years past on defense, the same old passing deficiencies still exist. They are ninth worth against the pass in 2022 and have missed safety Tryann Mathieu. A player like Jackson III would be a nice addition to improve the unit for a title run.

https://sportsnaut.com/william-jacks...ommanders/amp/

We miss Mathieu? Even if we did…why would that mean that we’re trading for a CB?

loochy 10-13-2022 05:16 PM

Can he play LT or DE?

T-post Tom 10-13-2022 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16527785)
Someone at sportsnaut is not watching the games.

I seldom disagree with you, but it seems that I am much less impressed with the performance of the secondary than you are. The defense is ranked near the bottom of the league for defending passes over 20 yards. The secondary is young and Spags’ defenses generally get better as they progress through the season. But even with that, I think Jackson would be an upgrade & add some speed to the secondary.

T-post Tom 10-13-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16527792)
We miss Mathieu? Even if we did…why would that mean that we’re trading for a CB?

Because it would be an upgrade at a an affordable price. And the secondary has not been great. Especially against the deep pass. AFCW has quite possibly the strongest group of quarterbacks that we’ve ever seen within one division.

raybec 4 10-13-2022 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527811)
I seldom disagree with you, but it seems that I am much less impressed with the performance of the secondary than you are. The defense is ranked near the bottom of the league for defending passes over 20 yards. The secondary is young and Spags’ defenses generally get better as they progress through the season. But even with that, I think Jackson would be an upgrade & add some speed to the secondary.

Even if he would be an upgrade CB isn't at the top of the need list. If we are going to rework someone's deal to make room, I hope it's for a DE, T or WR.

Jewish Rabbi 10-13-2022 05:29 PM

Saw him at Bazooka’s getting a hand job from Billay’s mom

raybec 4 10-13-2022 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16527829)
Saw him at Bazooka’s getting a hand job from Billay’s mom

50 million and he's still getting the dry tugger? We don't need him here.

T-post Tom 10-13-2022 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16527827)
Even if he would be an upgrade CB isn't at the top of the need list. If we are going to rework someone's deal to make room, I hope it's for a DE, T or WR.

Agree. Just another possibility that’s been floating around in the ether today.

Jewish Rabbi 10-13-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16527832)
50 million and he's still getting the dry tugger? We don't need him here.

She was using her phlegm to lube it up

T-post Tom 10-13-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16527829)
Saw him at Bazooka’s getting a hand job from Billay’s mom

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16527839)
She was using her phlegm to lube it up



Michael Irvin would be proud.

Eleazar 10-13-2022 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16527829)
Saw him at Bazooka’s getting a hand job from Billay’s mom

That was William Jackson from KCTV

Rain Man 10-13-2022 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527811)
I seldom disagree with you, but it seems that I am much less impressed with the performance of the secondary than you are. The defense is ranked near the bottom of the league for defending passes over 20 yards. The secondary is young and Spags’ defenses generally get better as they progress through the season. But even with that, I think Jackson would be an upgrade & add some speed to the secondary.

As sophisticated gentlemen, we will acknowledge our disagreement and then raise a toast of fine brandy and/or Pibb Xtra as we sit in our smoking jackets in the mahogany-lined library.

TwistedChief 10-13-2022 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527811)
I seldom disagree with you, but it seems that I am much less impressed with the performance of the secondary than you are. The defense is ranked near the bottom of the league for defending passes over 20 yards. The secondary is young and Spags’ defenses generally get better as they progress through the season. But even with that, I think Jackson would be an upgrade & add some speed to the secondary.

We haven’t had our first round corner for 95% of the season.

It’s a young secondary and we knew that going in. They’ve absolutely outperformed expectations overall thus far and will be improving.

If Veach didn’t trust them to perform at least at this level, they wouldn’t have released guys like Lonnie Johnson.

It seems super unlikely they’d expend resources to improve the DB room at this point.

Bowser 10-13-2022 06:06 PM

I'm sorry, I don't see the names "DJ Moore" or "Brian Burns" anywhere in this story.

raybec 4 10-13-2022 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16527839)
She was using her phlegm to lube it up

That's hot

T-post Tom 10-13-2022 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16527876)
As sophisticated gentlemen, we will acknowledge our disagreement and then raise a toast of fine brandy and/or Pibb Xtra as we sit in our smoking jackets in the mahogany-lined library.

Excellent sir. I will bring along a bottle of my favorite single malt in the interest of diversity.

scho63 10-13-2022 08:06 PM

We don't back up the truck for CB's

BWillie 10-13-2022 08:06 PM

We absolutely do not need this guy

T-post Tom 10-13-2022 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16527889)
We haven’t had our first round corner for 95% of the season.

It’s a young secondary and we knew that going in. They’ve absolutely outperformed expectations overall thus far and will be improving.

If Veach didn’t trust them to perform at least at this level, they wouldn’t have released guys like Lonnie Johnson.

It seems super unlikely they’d expend resources to improve the DB room at this point.

That all makes sense. And as others have suggested: DL might be a bigger need. I would say that elements of the secondary may have outperformed expectations. (Sneed) Other elements have underperformed. (Fenton) But they are young. I still trust in Veach.

Chief Roundup 10-13-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 16527801)
Can he play LT or DE?

I would definitely be more interested in Montez Sweat. Still don't know just how much interest though.

JohnnyHammersticks 10-13-2022 08:46 PM

We already have three good rookie CBs who will be on rookie deals for the next 4 years.

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Titty Meat 10-13-2022 09:17 PM

Saw him over on 36th and Highland

ChiefAshhole1056 10-13-2022 11:06 PM

Doesn’t make sense. Sneed is playing the best he’s had in his career so far, Fenton is in a contract year, Watson deserves snaps and McDuffie is returning soon. No need to take snaps from the current core.

dlphg9 10-13-2022 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527811)
I seldom disagree with you, but it seems that I am much less impressed with the performance of the secondary than you are. The defense is ranked near the bottom of the league for defending passes over 20 yards. The secondary is young and Spags’ defenses generally get better as they progress through the season. But even with that, I think Jackson would be an upgrade & add some speed to the secondary.

The secondary hasn't been bad at all. There has been an insane amount of perfectly played balls that just happened to be perfectly placed by the QB and the WR made a great catch. Fenton's been the only one that's gotten burnt and once McDuffie gets back that'll be taken care of.

No reason to trade draft picks for a corner.

Titty Meat 10-14-2022 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16528728)
The secondary hasn't been bad at all.


What?

Dunerdr 10-14-2022 08:27 AM

Theres this thing with our secondary. While being ranked low and giving up big plays, it still looks better than last year. It's a young group that's been playing tight. We haven't seen as many blown coverages or guys flat getting beat like last year. And this, my friends, has people optimistic. We could surely upgrade, but the way they are playing leaves room for optimism.

AdolfOliverBush 10-14-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527767)
and have missed safety Tryann Mathieu.

Aww, they let a reeruned kid do a little typing. That's sweet.

oldman 10-14-2022 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16527889)
We haven’t had our first round corner for 95% of the season.

It’s a young secondary and we knew that going in. They’ve absolutely outperformed expectations overall thus far and will be improving.

If Veach didn’t trust them to perform at least at this level, they wouldn’t have released guys like Lonnie Johnson.

It seems super unlikely they’d expend resources to improve the DB room at this point.

Exactly. The needs on this team are at DE and OT.

BWillie 10-14-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16528578)
Saw him over on 36th and Highland

I saw him at the Long John Silvers in St Joe eating extra crunchies. He said he wasn't worried about passing the physical.

T-post Tom 10-14-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16528728)
The secondary hasn't been bad at all. There has been an insane amount of perfectly played balls that just happened to be perfectly placed by the QB and the WR made a great catch. Fenton's been the only one that's gotten burnt and once McDuffie gets back that'll be taken care of.

No reason to trade draft picks for a corner.

Agree to disagree. Secondary has not been good. They’ve had their moments and I’m sure they will improve barring injury. I believe that in this division, any opportunity to get a decent deal on a secondary upgrade is worth looking into. That’s all I’m saying. If Veach decides to stay status quo, I’m good with that.

T-post Tom 10-14-2022 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16528998)
Aww, they let a reeruned kid do a little typing. That's sweet.

That line did not help the writer’s credibility. It may be heresy in some circles, but so far I believe Reid has been an upgrade over the HB we saw in the latter half of his last season here. Reid is the polar opposite when it comes to making business decisions on tackles. And so far, no bizarre social media postings. :)

oldman 10-14-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16529183)
Agree to disagree. Secondary has not been good. They’ve had their moments and I’m sure they will improve barring injury. I believe that in this division, any opportunity to get a decent deal on a secondary upgrade is worth looking into. That’s all I’m saying. If Veach decides to stay status quo, I’m good with that.

The secondary hasn't been bad, either. It wasn't only our rookies that got burnt last game, it was Fenton that got a DPI call and lost track of Adams. Where do you think we have cash to trade and pick up the remainder of his salary? Get McDuffie back and play with what we have.

New World Order 10-14-2022 11:32 AM

Heard there was a confirmed sighting of Jackson at the Best Buy in Tiffany Springs

irafreak 10-14-2022 01:32 PM

It's like some if us are watching completely different games. This secondary has played well and will just get better as they grow together. We've had some breakdowns but every team has breakdowns. Overall, they are ahead of schedule.

Zap Rowsdower 10-14-2022 03:32 PM

Saw him at Dillards on the third floor of Oak Park Mall. He said it was quiet there and a good place for him to collect his thoughts.

poolboy 10-14-2022 03:39 PM

Fenton kinda sucks...still better than Mike Hughes

tyecopeland 10-14-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 16527811)
I seldom disagree with you, but it seems that I am much less impressed with the performance of the secondary than you are. The defense is ranked near the bottom of the league for defending passes over 20 yards. The secondary is young and Spags’ defenses generally get better as they progress through the season. But even with that, I think Jackson would be an upgrade & add some speed to the secondary.

You fix the problem with the deep passes by improving the pass rush and not allowing the qb time to make the deep throw. A cb doesn't fix that problem. Our guys have typically been right with the wrs on those deeper throws. The young guys haven't learned yet to make sure to locate the ball and Fenton has struggled some. But getting pressure on the qb is a much better fix.


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