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BigRichard 10-14-2022 02:28 PM

Any Advice From the Floor Guys
 
I am starting to tear up my bathroom which had marble flooring. I have done ceramic tile before and it seems like they used way more thinset than what was needed here. It seems to be cracking off in little bits as I get my pry bar to get underneath of it instead of the entire tile coming up. Any suggestions here? Will I be able to get up that thinset off of that cement board? I was almost thinking that I will need to cut up all of that cement board too and replace with new for the tile I am going to put down.

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Otter 10-14-2022 03:22 PM

I recently did a similar job and instead of trying to chip away (how I initially started) I wound up cutting the floor into 12x12 inch section with a circular saw down to the floor joists then took it out and laying a whole new foundation in the room.

That's gonna be a bitch chip away. It will still be a PITA on the edges but in the long run it saved me time and money.

Sassy Squatch 10-14-2022 03:24 PM

I'd just go all the way down to the joists/subfloor and start it over again. Might as well in case something's slipped your notice and got wet and rotten.

God of Thunder 10-14-2022 03:26 PM

So I just did this to the whole kitchen and it was a freaking nightmare. I went and bought 3 Multi-Tools from Home Depot like this - with the horizontal blades....

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...6-20/204463218

Made the job a heck of a lot easier.

Sassy Squatch 10-14-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by God of Thunder (Post 16529849)
So I just did this to the whole kitchen and it was a freaking nightmare. I went and bought 3 Multi-Tools from Home Depot like this - with the horizontal blades....

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...6-20/204463218

Made the job a heck of a lot easier.

LMAO My dad abuses the **** out of that. It's his solution to damn near every problem now.

Monty 10-14-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16529846)
I'd just go all the way down to the joists/subfloor and start it over again. Might as well in case something's slipped your notice and got wet and rotten.

I'd recommend the same unless you want to hire Superturtle's Dad. :)

Rain Man 10-14-2022 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by God of Thunder (Post 16529849)
So I just did this to the whole kitchen and it was a freaking nightmare. I went and bought 3 Multi-Tools from Home Depot like this - with the horizontal blades....

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauke...6-20/204463218

Made the job a heck of a lot easier.

What is that? What does it do?

BigRichard 10-14-2022 03:49 PM

Can I just use a circular saw to cut that into 12inch squares? That won't hurt the circular saw at all(with the right blade)? I know it will be dusty as hell.

KCUnited 10-14-2022 03:51 PM

****! Just found out my son posts on CP

Warpaint69 10-14-2022 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 16529877)
Can I just use a circular saw to cut that into 12inch squares? That won't hurt the circular saw at all(with the right blade)? I know it will be dusty as hell.

I'd do that. Set your depth on the saw and go. Yes the dust will be awful!

TLO 10-14-2022 04:00 PM

I prefer Five Guys.

notorious 10-14-2022 04:01 PM

Rotary hammer set on jackhammer motion ONLY.

https://www.cpooutlets.com/on/demand...1255vsr-rt.jpg

Flat shank.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...uPKWQ&usqp=CAU

It takes time, but it will work.

Get gloves so you don't cut the hell out of your hands. Only fill the trashcan 1/3rd full or it will be too heavy to dump.

The rotary hammer does a jackhammer motion. Let it do the work, don't force it. You'll figure it out after some practice.

ScareCrowe 10-14-2022 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 16529756)
I am starting to tear up my bathroom which had marble flooring. I have done ceramic tile before and it seems like they used way more thinset than what was needed here. It seems to be cracking off in little bits as I get my pry bar to get underneath of it instead of the entire tile coming up. Any suggestions here? Will I be able to get up that thinset off of that cement board? I was almost thinking that I will need to cut up all of that cement board too and replace with new for the tile I am going to put down.

I've never seen anyone able to remove tile without chunks of the cement board coming with it. I've always replaced the cement board when replacing tile. And with that being the case I would think just cutting up the entire sub floor would be your best bet. The only extra cost would be the plywood, and the saved time & frustration of trying to chip up that floor one square inch at a time, would be well worth it IMO

notorious 10-14-2022 04:03 PM

Also, get a grinder and cut all the screws they used for the cement board flush with the subfloor.

Don't try to pull them, it's not worth the time or frustration.

notorious 10-14-2022 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ScareCrowe (Post 16529896)
I've never seen anyone able to remove tile without chunks of the cement board coming with it. I've always replaced the cement board when replacing tile. And with that being the case I would think just cutting up the entire sub floor would be your best bet. The only extra cost would be the plywood, and the saved time & frustration of trying to chip up that floor one square inch at a time, would be well worth it IMO

Yeah, you aren't saving the cement board.

Otter 10-14-2022 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 16529877)
Can I just use a circular saw to cut that into 12inch squares? That won't hurt the circular saw at all(with the right blade)? I know it will be dusty as hell.

Oh you're going to go through the blade depending on the size of the room, maybe several.

Fan pointing out the window for dust and a clean up afterwards. It's messy.

notorious 10-14-2022 04:06 PM

I normally remove the tile top then start on the cement board. You better hope to god they didn't adhesive it down. I've seen that many times before, and I want to stab the installers in the face.

kstater 10-14-2022 04:23 PM

Crowbar and take cement board and if needed subfloor. Don't waste the energy

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BryanBusby 10-14-2022 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Hill (Post 16529893)
I prefer Five Guys.

That's a lot of guys at once.

Buehler445 10-14-2022 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16529895)
Rotary hammer set on jackhammer motion ONLY.

https://www.cpooutlets.com/on/demand...1255vsr-rt.jpg

Flat shank.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...uPKWQ&usqp=CAU

It takes time, but it will work.

Get gloves so you don't cut the hell out of your hands. Only fill the trashcan 1/3rd full or it will be too heavy to dump.

The rotary hammer does a jackhammer motion. Let it do the work, don't force it. You'll figure it out after some practice.

I don’t know shit about it. But this man knows floors.

ptlyon 10-14-2022 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16530088)
I don’t know shit about it. But this man knows floors.

He's notorious for floors

ptlyon 10-14-2022 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16529952)
That's a lot of guys at once.

He can take it

scho63 10-14-2022 07:47 PM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uwJQQux0TF0/hqdefault.jpg

ptlyon 10-14-2022 07:53 PM

Ha. Hate that commercial.

scho63 10-15-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 16530116)
Ha. Hate that commercial.

Me too! ROFL

Wilson8 10-15-2022 12:05 PM

1. If you can afford to hire a professional, you should.
2. Contact tile stores or consult Angi's list to find someone to do work.
3. If you still plan to do this yourself, you can't save the backerboard. You have to take it up. It is very important to have a nice level surface to put your new tile on.
4. Get several empty cardboard boxes, not too big, because you have to be able to pick them up for the old pieces of tile and backerboard to be thrown into.
5. Hang some plastic sheets to keep the dust and dirt away from other parts of house.
6. Others have described tools or ways to take up tile. I don't think you should have to take up your sub floor.
7. If the floor was installed properly, the backerboard will have a layer of thinset on the underside.
8. You have to break and pop up the old marble tile. Unscrew the backerboard. Take up the backerboard and get floor level.
9. Be sure to wear eye protection and gloves because broken tile is very sharp.
10. Use hammer, crowbar, chisel. You can damage and split floor joists if you use too big of a hammer.

Good luck!

BigRichard 10-15-2022 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 16530835)
1. If you can afford to hire a professional, you should.
2. Contact tile stores or consult Angi's list to find someone to do work.
3. If you still plan to do this yourself, you can't save the backerboard. You have to take it up. It is very important to have a nice level surface to put your new tile on.
4. Get several empty cardboard boxes, not too big, because you have to be able to pick them up for the old pieces of tile and backerboard to be thrown into.
5. Hang some plastic sheets to keep the dust and dirt away from other parts of house.
6. Others have described tools or ways to take up tile. I don't think you should have to take up your sub floor.
7. If the floor was installed properly, the backerboard will have a layer of thinset on the underside.
8. You have to break and pop up the old marble tile. Unscrew the backerboard. Take up the backerboard and get floor level.
9. Be sure to wear eye protection and gloves because broken tile is very sharp.
10. Use hammer, crowbar, chisel. You can damage and split floor joists if you use too big of a hammer.

Good luck!

I have done tile before and done a very good job I just never had to tear old tile up. I completely gutted the bathroom in the picture and that is what I did. Turned out beautiful. Even if things take me a long time I prefer to do them myself when it comes to my house as I know I am doing it right.

For dumping I am actually going to bring my tractor up here and just throw it all in the bucket and take it down to my dumpster on my business property. Won't need to do much to haul it :)


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Tile saw blade in my circular saw is working wonders.

On a side note the idiots that layed this marble used ****ing nails on the cement board and not screws. :cuss: I suspect a lot of shit is half assed in the house. We had a hallway that was creaky as shit and after trying to drive about 300 screws into the damn thing I finally wwnt out and got some 5" x 3/8" lag bolts and drilled up through the 2x4 in the walls(had marked them by drilling little pilot holes down stairs and filled them later) and ran those bolts up through the basement. I went down the hallway and did it to about 6 2x4's and got the floor to quit moving.

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