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TLO 11-06-2022 11:22 PM

Let's talk about the Jaguars
 
The Jacksonville Jaguars, to be specific.

comochiefsfan 11-06-2022 11:23 PM

They suck.

Will be a disaster if we don't win.

Hammock Parties 11-06-2022 11:23 PM

we will rape them

carcosa 11-06-2022 11:23 PM

KC Chiefs will win. I guarantee it!

RollChiefsRoll 11-06-2022 11:23 PM

They beat the Faid.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-06-2022 11:24 PM

Chiefsplanet always seems shocked when NFL games are close ROFL

lcarus 11-06-2022 11:25 PM

Stop Etienne and they should win.

petegz28 11-06-2022 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 16584630)
They beat the Faid.

Yes, they did. With points, even!!!

FloridaMan88 11-06-2022 11:25 PM

Trevor Lawrence gets to meet a generational QB.

CasselGotPeedOn 11-06-2022 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16584625)
They suck.

Will be a disaster if we don't win.

Your existence is a disaster

TLO 11-06-2022 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 16584639)
Stop Etienne and they should win.

I don't even know who this is!!!

BWillie 11-06-2022 11:25 PM

Sunshine isn't good

KC Hawks 11-06-2022 11:26 PM

Bob Sutton is on their staff

Gary Cooper 11-06-2022 11:26 PM

Shit. Another AFC South team.

We'll win by 40 for sure!

Oh Snap 11-06-2022 11:26 PM

Should win it easily. Which is why I'm scared as shit to play them. This team has a tendency to lose to teams thry have no business losing too. Plus florida....we suck there.

GloucesterChief 11-06-2022 11:27 PM

Chiefs should win but we seem to have an issue where we play awful against bad teams.

carcosa 11-06-2022 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16584654)
Should win it easily. Which is why I'm scared as shit to play them. This team has a tendency to lose to teams thry have no business losing too. Plus florida....we suck there.

Good thing the game is in KC!!!

TLO 11-06-2022 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16584654)
Should win it easily. Which is why I'm scared as shit to play them. This team has a tendency to lose to teams thry have no business losing too. Plus florida....we suck there.

Thankfully we'll be pretty far away from Florida!!!

TLO 11-06-2022 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 16584649)
Bob Sutton is on their staff

Seriously???

BWillie 11-06-2022 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 16584649)
Bob Sutton is on their staff

What? Someone hired him? Like to coach football?

Coach 11-06-2022 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16584681)
What? Someone hired him? Like to coach football?

Well, Doug Pederson was here when Sutton was here, I believe. So, there's that connection.

tk13 11-06-2022 11:33 PM

They've been in every single game. They're 3-6 but they're actually +21 scoring which is 6th in the AFC depending on what Baltimore does tomorrow night. They haven't lost a game by more than one score, even against the Eagles.

Plus Doug Pederson is their coach. They'll probably be prepared for what we'll throw at them.

FloridaMan88 11-06-2022 11:33 PM

He’s a Senior (Citizen) Defensive Assistant for the Jagwads.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/p...vy5vjbme97.jpg

TLO 11-06-2022 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16584695)
He’s a Senior (Citizen) Defensive Assistant for the Jagwads.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/p...vy5vjbme97.jpg

I honestly had no clue.

Huh.

DRM08 11-06-2022 11:35 PM

It will probably be another ugly game. Just find a way to win. Sure wish they could figure out a better running game. 0-2 yards per carry is brutal.

Marcellus 11-06-2022 11:35 PM

10pt favorites at minimum.

TLO 11-06-2022 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16584707)
10pt favorites at minimum.

I think it opened at Chiefs -9.5

BWillie 11-06-2022 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16584695)
He’s a Senior (Citizen) Defensive Assistant for the Jagwads.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/p...vy5vjbme97.jpg

Are you sure thats not the old guy on Blue Bloods?

Pepe Silvia 11-06-2022 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16584695)
He’s a Senior (Citizen) Defensive Assistant for the Jagwads.

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/p...vy5vjbme97.jpg

He must host the best Lemon Parties ever, dude is horrible at coaching.

BWillie 11-06-2022 11:45 PM

I will be at this football game because Arrowhead has the best Dip n Dots

ThyKingdomCome15 11-06-2022 11:45 PM

IDK, this game was so shocking I'm not taking anyone lightly at this point. Lol, the real Josh Allen is this weekend's Justin Simmons without the smack talk.

Pepe Silvia 11-06-2022 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16584753)
I will be at this football game because Arrowhead has the best Dip n Dots

Dip N Dots rule, I like chocolate the best.

RINGLEADER 11-06-2022 11:47 PM

Not sure which trend wins out, but I'm putting my money on KC for the win:

Jags on the road since 2020: W-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-W-L-L- ?

Looks like the Jags have another 15 road losses before they can win again...

Best22 11-06-2022 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16584654)
Should win it easily. Which is why I'm scared as shit to play them. This team has a tendency to lose to teams thry have no business losing too. Plus florida....we suck there.

The game is in Arrowhead

MMXcalibur 11-06-2022 11:53 PM

I like the Jaguars, but not this week.

Pepe Silvia 11-06-2022 11:54 PM

Trevor Lawrence is a woman.

BWillie 11-06-2022 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16584790)
Trevor Lawrence is a woman.

I believe the term is trans woman.

kcpasco 11-06-2022 11:56 PM

Is Clete the ref?

RetiredSeniorChief 11-06-2022 11:56 PM

Can their DL keep our skinny RBs to 1.0 yds per carry?

BryanBusby 11-06-2022 11:56 PM

I'll basically miss this entire game.

Chiefs win by a lot.

RealSNR 11-06-2022 11:59 PM

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TomBarndtsTwin 11-07-2022 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16584654)
Should win it easily. Which is why I'm scared as shit to play them. This team has a tendency to lose to teams thry have no business losing too. Plus florida....we suck there.

Good thing the game is in Kansas City, then.

Besides, we won in Jacksonville last time we were there. Won in Tampa 2 of the last 3 times we visited there. Oh, and we won the mother****ing Super Bowl in Miami a couple years back. So I think Florida has been okay to us, overall.

Hammock Parties 11-07-2022 12:14 AM

the ONLY thing that concerns me about this game is a letdown after a VERY tough win, and both our lines being beat to shit this week

their RB is fast as ****...better fill the gaps

T-post Tom 11-07-2022 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 16584790)
Trevor Lawrence is a woman.

Would not give up Chiefs tickets to clap those cheeks.

Eleazar 11-07-2022 07:08 AM

The Jaguars are 3-6 but have been in every game, having not lost any game this year by more than one score.

But they had also lost 5 games in a row until Dr. McDaniels came to town last week.

They've outscored their opponents this year, but they are near the top of the league in giveaways.

Probably just an average team in general that could easily be 5-4 with a couple of bounces.

DrunkBassGuitar 11-07-2022 07:24 AM

we'll win, the score will make the game look closer than it is

tmax63 11-07-2022 07:28 AM

Who's on the Jags DL? Seems the teams that have monster DLs give the Chiefs grief but I haven't heard anything on theirs.

dannybcaitlyn 11-07-2022 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16584850)
the ONLY thing that concerns me about this game is a letdown after a VERY tough win, and both our lines being beat to shit this week

their RB is fast as ****...better fill the gaps

History shows that we get on a roll after we play the titans.

Spott 11-07-2022 07:58 AM

Lawrence turns the ball over a lot, especially in the red zone.

Megatron96 11-07-2022 11:39 PM

Statistically:

JAX has only played two teams with a winning record, NYG and PHI, and their schedule has been pretty weak to this point in the season.

JAX is ranked 8th in total yards/offense/gm (KC is 2nd)

JAX is 18th in passing offense, 220.7yds/gm (KC is 1st, 311.18)

JAX is 7th in rushing, 146.8yds/gm (KC is 23rd, 103.5)

Defensively:

JAX is 16th in total defense/gm, 343.4yds/gm

JAX is 22nd vs. the pass/gm , 238.5yds/gm. KC is 24th

JAX is 7th in rushing defense, 105.3yds/gm. KC is 5th, 102.0

Pts/gm: JAX 19.8, VS. KC 23.6

Gotta cut this short, but concisely:

By the numbers;

I see a team that relies heavily on their run game, throws only when they need to, trying to protect their young QB from both himself and the team's chances to steal a win. Trevor seems to throw for a decent number of yards, and has a pretty high completion rate, but has still already thrown 6 INTs, and fumbles the ball as well. Young QB mistakes, basically.

On defense JAX looks they're fairly stout vs. the run, but kind of porous vs. the pass, especially when you consider the quality of their opponents.

MHO at a later date.

RINGLEADER 11-08-2022 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16587326)
By the numbers;

I see a team that relies heavily on their run game, throws only when they need to, trying to protect their young QB from both himself and the team's chances to steal a win. Trevor seems to throw for a decent number of yards, and has a pretty high completion rate, but has still already thrown 11 INTs, and fumbles the ball as well. Young QB mistakes, basically.

On defense JAX looks they're fairly stout vs. the run, but kind of porous vs. the pass, especially when you consider the quality of their opponents.

MHO at a later date.

More or less this. He has 6 INTs (not 11 - he has 11 TDs) by the way, and not sure where you saw that he fumbles the ball a lot since he has only lost one of two fumbles he's had on the year.

They play everyone close - they have not lost by more than one score all year - and are young and scrappy in a lot of skill positions.

But they've never run into the buzzsaw they're about to hit and their QB has a very punchable face so I say KC wins.

Danguardace 11-08-2022 01:12 AM

Can we have a stress free home game please?

big nasty kcnut 11-08-2022 03:02 AM

the team is up and coming but tony khan needs a better oline and defense

FloridaMan88 11-08-2022 03:50 AM

Nantz and Romo are announcing the Chiefs game Sunday.

The Chiefs have had the #1 announcing team for all of their games this season to-date.

That probably ends next week though since CBS has both Chiefs/Chargers and Vikings/Cowboys as their late games.

smithandrew051 11-08-2022 05:20 AM

I feel like this is a franchise that we broke. They haven’t been the same since we beat them in Mahomes’s first year as a starter.

wazu 11-08-2022 05:44 AM

Will probably be a nail biter, just like every game we play against AFC teams.

FlaChief58 11-08-2022 07:55 AM

You cant spell jaguar without jag

Chris Meck 11-08-2022 07:57 AM

My prediction:

Everyone will predict a Chiefs blow-out win, the GDT will be full of negative dipshits wanting to fire the entire staff and front office, and KC wins 27-20.

scho63 11-08-2022 08:04 AM

This is a game for the Chiefs to show what they can REALLY do and blow the Jags apart.

This game SHOULD be a blowout.

htismaqe 11-08-2022 08:23 AM

The Jags defense is pretty stout up front. I expect them to stifle our offense a little bit.

Bowser 11-08-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 16584639)
Stop Etienne and they should win.

If we can shut down Derick Henry for an entire half when he was all they had to throw at us, then we "SHOULD" be able to stop Etienne. No jinx.

Bowser 11-08-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16587574)
The Jags defense is pretty stout up front. I expect them to stifle our offense a little bit.

Great, so another 50+ throws from Mahomes.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-08-2022 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 16584649)
Bob Sutton is on their staff

That explains a lot right there!

htismaqe 11-08-2022 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16587592)
Great, so another 50+ throws from Mahomes.

And we're going to see a healthy dose of Etienne too. I think this game is a lot closer than people want.

Lzen 11-08-2022 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16584654)
Should win it easily. Which is why I'm scared as shit to play them. This team has a tendency to lose to teams thry have no business losing too. Plus florida....we suck there.

For ****s sake! No we don't suck in Florida. This ain't the chiefs of the old days. And maybe look at a schedule.

tredadda 11-08-2022 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll (Post 16584630)
They beat the Faid.

That’s not saying much at this point. Everyone beats the Faid. Rumor has it the starters had a 17 point lead on their practice squad and still lost.

tredadda 11-08-2022 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16584807)

That’s probably not a best seller.

tredadda 11-08-2022 08:40 AM

Honestly KC should win and win easily, but they also should have destroyed Indy. KC can’t (and don’t believe they will) overlook Jax.

ThaVirus 11-08-2022 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 16584649)
Bob Sutton is on their staff

IIRC, Bob Sutton was the DC for the Falcons in 2020 and they took us to the wire, holding the offense to 17 points or something like that.

Their HC is also Pederson so they've got a ton of familiarity with our offense.

Bowser 11-08-2022 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16587614)
Honestly KC should win and win easily, but they also should have destroyed Indy. KC can’t (and don’t believe they will) overlook Jax.

KC lost to a team that fired its coach midway through the season. I hope they remember that every game the play going forward.

Direckshun 11-08-2022 09:00 AM

I like what Trevor Lawrence has done this season. He's got a good coach and his offensive line has been built up pretty decently. He's not a sitting duck anymore with a coach asleep at the wheel.

I'm just not crazy about their receiving options. Marvin Jones and Zay Jones are fine, they're fine, but I don't think they can break you even on their best days. Christian Kirk is the kind of WR that has given us problems all season, but I wonder if McDuffie is a solution to that.

I think the biggest thing here is Travis Etienne. If he explodes, this game suddenly gets insanely competitive. But he's a finesse RB, and I think this team is built better for finesse run games than aggressive pounding rungames. Our linebackers (aside from Chenal, who honestly the Chiefs should bench for Harris) are pretty good at gap filling. Thornhill and Sneed in run support on the edges, I like our chances there.

The biggest solution to Etienne, though, is just Mahomes getting up early. If the Chiefs get up early and Lawrence has to win the game for the Jaguars, it's going to be a boatrace blowout for the Chiefs.

The Jags' defense is good against the run, but I actually think we can gash them on the ground. I like their DL, but I do think that if the Chiefs just decide to run Pacheco down Devon Hamilton's throat, I don't think they can stop us.

Obviously, so long as Mahomes stays clean against a decent passrush, he can pass anywhere he wants. But I think this is a game where Pacheco surprises everyone with a 16-carry, 100-yard game.

TL;DR: I think the Jaguars can challenge our defense, but Spags and crew should be up for the challenge. And I think Pacheco surprises everyone with a mean run game, and Mahomes plays a competent, quiet 250-yard passing game on like 21-of-27 passing or something like that.

The Franchise 11-08-2022 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16587595)
And we're going to see a healthy dose of Etienne too. I think this game is a lot closer than people want.

I think it's close through the first 3 quarters and then we pull away at the end.

Like a 34-21 type game.

Direckshun 11-08-2022 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16587765)
I think it's close through the first 3 quarters and then we pull away at the end.

Like a 34-21 type game.

The Jaguars are not the Titans -- they don't have a bevy of counter-moves against our weaknesses and their defense has several pressure points the Chiefs will pummel.

If the Chiefs get up two scores early against them, like they did this past week, the Jaguars aren't clawing their way back into this sucker.

Get up early and it's a boatrace.

Hammock Parties 11-08-2022 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16587671)
I like what Trevor Lawrence has done this season. He's got a good coach and his offensive line has been built up pretty decently. He's not a sitting duck anymore with a coach asleep at the wheel.

I'm just not crazy about their receiving options. Marvin Jones and Zay Jones are fine, they're fine, but I don't think they can break you even on their best days. Christian Kirk is the kind of WR that has given us problems all season, but I wonder if McDuffie is a solution to that.

I think the biggest thing here is Travis Etienne. If he explodes, this game suddenly gets insanely competitive. But he's a finesse RB, and I think this team is built better for finesse run games than aggressive pounding rungames. Our linebackers (aside from Chenal, who honestly the Chiefs should bench for Harris) are pretty good at gap filling. Thornhill and Sneed in run support on the edges, I like our chances there.

The biggest solution to Etienne, though, is just Mahomes getting up early. If the Chiefs get up early and Lawrence has to win the game for the Jaguars, it's going to be a boatrace blowout for the Chiefs.

The Jags' defense is good against the run, but I actually think we can gash them on the ground. I like their DL, but I do think that if the Chiefs just decide to run Pacheco down Devon Hamilton's throat, I don't think they can stop us.

Obviously, so long as Mahomes stays clean against a decent passrush, he can pass anywhere he wants. But I think this is a game where Pacheco surprises everyone with a 16-carry, 100-yard game.

TL;DR: I think the Jaguars can challenge our defense, but Spags and crew should be up for the challenge. And I think Pacheco surprises everyone with a mean run game, and Mahomes plays a competent, quiet 250-yard passing game on like 21-of-27 passing or something like that.

****, we're going to lose by three touchdowns

St. Patty's Fire 11-08-2022 09:55 AM

this is probably gonna be a close game. the jaguars havent lost a game by more than one score this year, they’re better than their record might suggest.

Direckshun 11-08-2022 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16587771)
****, we're going to lose by three touchdowns

LMAO

neech 11-08-2022 09:56 AM

Doug Pederson wants to lighten Travis Etienne's workload


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...d/ar-AA13S9cn\


Doug Pederson wants to use backup running back JaMycal Hasty, and says It’s a wise decision, as 28 carries is a massive workload for any player and could easily wear down the Jaguars’ rising star Etienne in the backfield.

Direckshun 11-08-2022 09:57 AM

Because the Chiefs are obviously superior, this would be a good game to try out a couple things.

Bench Nnadi, play Saunders.
Bench Chenal, play Harris.

Get some designed plays for Skyy Moore.

Good lord, try Wenogho at RT. Please.

Give Pacheco the ball 18 times.

Let Toney return a couple punts.

The Franchise 11-08-2022 09:59 AM

The Jags defensive line has the talent. It's just whether they can actually put it together.

Bowser 11-08-2022 10:35 AM

Get your ass in here, Setsuna


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