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PunkinDrublic 11-08-2022 03:57 PM

Let’s talk about Bills vs Vikings
 
If the Chiefs stay focused and take care of business we will win. I’m going to be keeping an eye on this game. I haven’t watched the Vikings too much but from what I’ve seen, they’ve played about as well as any of the upper tier teams. The big question for me is how does the Vikings offense matchup with Buffaloes defense?

ToxSocks 11-08-2022 04:01 PM

To my understanding the Vikings are on top of that "Fraud" list.

I have yet to watch them though and have no idea how they match up with the Bills.

Jewish Rabbi 11-08-2022 04:03 PM

Vikings win 69-0

Jewish Rabbi 11-08-2022 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16588816)
To my understanding the Vikings are on top of that "Fraud" list.

I have yet to watch them though and have no idea how they match up with the Bills.

Bills are biggest fraud team. They played their Super Bowl in KC and now their QB doesn’t have an elbow

scho63 11-08-2022 04:03 PM

The Vikings usually kill Buffaloes and then skin their hides for warmth

htismaqe 11-08-2022 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16588816)
To my understanding the Vikings are on top of that "Fraud" list.

I have yet to watch them though and have no idea how they match up with the Bills.

They can score enough to keep up with the Bills and they have a good pass rush.

They can definitely win, especially if Allen isn't 100% healthy.

Spott 11-08-2022 04:07 PM

Never heard of them. Are these women’s soccer teams?

Hammock Parties 11-08-2022 04:10 PM

if poyer's out they get spit roasted

PunkinDrublic 11-08-2022 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 16588822)
Vikings win 69-0

You know if the Vikings win, that could potentially benefit my favorite football team the Kansas City Chiefs.

DRM08 11-08-2022 04:14 PM

Buffalo plays at a different level in their home stadium compared to road games. They're averaging 12 points more at home this year compared to road games.

Vikings have been fortunate to have a weak schedule, including the fact Tua was injured for the Vikes & Dolphins game. Vikings might need similar injury luck to have any chance against Buffalo.

Bearcat 11-08-2022 04:16 PM

Just looking at their shit schedule and pulling games out of their ass against said shit schedule, I'm guessing the Vikings are far closer to a 4-4 team... and if Allen is healthy and the Bills don't play like shit, they could pretty easily win by a few touchdowns.

Graystoke 11-08-2022 07:38 PM

I think Bills will dominate.
I have plenty of Vike fans in the office and they are not confident.
But any kind of Sunday, hopefully purple wins.

displacedinMN 11-08-2022 07:51 PM

i puked in class the other day when a kid said that Cousins was better than Mahomes-based on this years record.

8th graders are really stupid

ptlyon 11-08-2022 07:58 PM

Vikes choke. Always.

Stryker 11-08-2022 07:59 PM

Cousins is playing well and they have Justin Jefferson, Dalvin Cook and Thielen. They also just acquired T.J. Hockenson. Vikes are also 7 - 1 and play @ Buffalo. They won 6 in a row but only won against Washington by 3 so :shrug:

Coochie liquor 11-08-2022 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 16589359)
i puked in class the other day when a kid said that Cousins was better than Mahomes-based on this years record.

8th graders are really stupid

Shoulda sent his ass to ISS (if that’s still a thing?)

Pepe Silvia 11-08-2022 07:59 PM

Bills will win, Satan is protecting them.

mr. tegu 11-08-2022 08:02 PM

The Vikings are a pretty good running team and will stay committed to it. That’s not good for the Bills. They also absolutely have the pass catchers to get big plays. It will come down to how much pressure they can generate on Allen. Bring out the inaccurate bad decision maker and they win.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-08-2022 08:05 PM

I’m not sure why people, most notably the media, act like the Bills are some super team. The Chiefs played like shit while also missing multiple starters and just lost by 4. And they just lost to the Jets. The Vikings can definitely win this game.

Rainbarrel 11-08-2022 08:08 PM

The Bills live way to much in "because Chiefs" minds. Purple people eaters hate poopfingered peoples

Megatron96 11-08-2022 08:08 PM

Cousins always plays well in the first half of the season (a couple seasons ago he was the no. 1 QB in the NFL Sep-Oct, statistically), complete with elite passing stats and a great W/L ratio. Then November comes around and things start to fall apart for him.

Plus, Cousins doesn't do well at all if you apply enough pressure/get a few sacks. He's not good off-script or improvisationally, if you prefer. If he's scrambling, chances are he isn't going to wow you with a great play to save the drive. At best, he doesn't turn it over. But it'll be almost a coinflip whether he shits himself or does the smart thing and just throws it out of bounds.

It's just his history. Many years of it.

Bottom line, if both Josh Alen and Von Miller are playing, i'd take BUF to win. Maybe MIN could cover this time.

Stryker 11-08-2022 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 16589413)
I’m not sure why people, most notably the media, act like the Bills are some super team. The Chiefs played like shit while also missing multiple starters and just lost by 4. And they just lost to the Jets. The Vikings can definitely win this game.

Then you will LOVE THIS! LMAO

From ESPN+...

Super Bowl favorites: Bills vs. 49ers


The Chiefs and Bills split votes and basically should comprise their own Super Bowl out of the AFC. "Those are the two best teams," a veteran NFC scout said. "They are the deepest and have the best players [Allen and Mahomes]." The Bills get the nod because they are battle tested, have a deep roster and know they are good. "This feels like their time," an AFC exec said.

The Eagles are widely viewed as the NFC's most complete team, and "getting home-field advantage will be big for them," the AFC exec said. But the 49ers garnered enough votes to earn the spot. "Battle tested and explosive playmaking on both sides of the ball," an NFL personnel director said.

tk13 11-08-2022 08:14 PM

It's a noon game so right in Kirk Cousins wheelhouse. If it was in primetime then the Bills would probably slaughter them.

KChiefs1 11-08-2022 08:35 PM

I hate that it’s on opposite of the Chiefs game.
My second tv will definitely be on it.


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Bl00dyBizkitz 11-08-2022 08:46 PM

Buffalo wins this. Vikings are paper tigers.

tredadda 11-08-2022 09:28 PM

If Allen plays and is not hampered by his elbow they beat Minnesota and expose them as frauds. Their “signature” win this year is against a Tua-less Miami team. They are winning but not dominating against lesser opponents. I would love to see them beat Buffalo, I just don’t think they will.

MAG 11-08-2022 10:19 PM

Is Allen expected to play? Line is down to -4.5 which I'm tempted to take.

UChieffyBugger 11-08-2022 10:38 PM

The Bills have rookie corners going against Jefferson and Theilan. Milano is also banged up so covering Hockinson could be tough. That Vikings Dline has also been on fire lately with Smith and Hunter so they may be able to send just four like the Jets did. But the key to this whole game could be Cook and Mattinson. The Bills run defense has been getting gashed like crazy on the ground and it's an obvious area where they could have a very good day. "Frauds" or not they have the tools to win the game and the Bills have lost confidence and are banged up at QB and defense. Yep, this could make good viewing.

Pitt Gorilla 11-09-2022 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 16588848)
You know if the Vikings win, that could potentially benefit my favorite football team the Kansas City Chiefs.

I like them!

RaidersOftheCellar 11-09-2022 12:24 AM

If Allen is hindered, I think the Vikings have a solid shot.

Nickhead 11-09-2022 12:42 AM

i am calling it now. unless buffalo can conjure up a rushing game not named allen, the vikings win this game. :thumb:

New World Order 11-09-2022 01:03 AM

I have no faith in Cousins

htismaqe 11-09-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16589425)
Cousins always plays well in the first half of the season (a couple seasons ago he was the no. 1 QB in the NFL Sep-Oct, statistically), complete with elite passing stats and a great W/L ratio. Then November comes around and things start to fall apart for him.

Plus, Cousins doesn't do well at all if you apply enough pressure/get a few sacks. He's not good off-script or improvisationally, if you prefer. If he's scrambling, chances are he isn't going to wow you with a great play to save the drive. At best, he doesn't turn it over. But it'll be almost a coinflip whether he shits himself or does the smart thing and just throws it out of bounds.

It's just his history. Many years of it.

Bottom line, if both Josh Alen and Von Miller are playing, i'd take BUF to win. Maybe MIN could cover this time.

Cousins just can't get it done when the lights come on. Primetime games, stretch runs, playoffs - he just can't do it when it really matters.

TomBarndtsTwin 11-09-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16590676)
Cousins just can't get it done when the lights come on. Primetime games, stretch runs, playoffs - he just can't do it when it really matters.

Agreed.

Luckily, this is just another Noon game that's not getting any kind of national spotlight or big headline appeal. The kind of game that Cousins and the Vikes can steal if they play well.

I'm not predicting a Vikings win, but it's certainly possible especially considering Allen's UCL situation. He'll likely play but he definitely won't be at a 100%.

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TomBarndtsTwin 11-09-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16589440)
Then you will LOVE THIS! LMAO

From ESPN+...

Super Bowl favorites: Bills vs. 49ers


The Chiefs and Bills split votes and basically should comprise their own Super Bowl out of the AFC. "Those are the two best teams," a veteran NFC scout said. "They are the deepest and have the best players [Allen and Mahomes]." The Bills get the nod because they are battle tested, have a deep roster and know they are good. "This feels like their time," an AFC exec said.

The Eagles are widely viewed as the NFC's most complete team, and "getting home-field advantage will be big for them," the AFC exec said. But the 49ers garnered enough votes to earn the spot. "Battle tested and explosive playmaking on both sides of the ball," an NFL personnel director said.

Lol. The Chiefs aren't battle tested? They've been in FAR MORE big games over the last several years than the Bills. The Chiefs also have a pretty solid roster top to bottom, maybe not quite as deep as the Bills, but definitely solid. That's great that the Bills 'know they are good'. You know who else knows they are good? The Kansas City Chiefs. The team that has hosted the AFC Title Game the last 4 years and has gone 8-3 in the playoffs over that span. Last I checked, that's pretty good.

I have no problem with them making the Buffalo-SF pick; I get it.

But if THIS is the reasoning then that's ****ing stupid.

htismaqe 11-09-2022 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16589440)
"This feels like their time," an AFC exec said.

I hate this stupid shit. There's no such thing as destiny in the NFL, you have to ****ing earn it.

Dunerdr 11-09-2022 08:53 AM

The Vikings are the Jamaal charles chiefs but with a slightly better version of Dwayne Bowe. They can win but i do not expect them to win against a motivated Bills team. They feel a lot like the Alex Smith teams that had a horrific record when teams scored over 27 or whatever the stat was for years.

irafreak 11-09-2022 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 16589359)
i puked in class the other day when a kid said that Cousins was better than Mahomes-based on this years record.

8th graders are really stupid

I figured you were at least a high schooler.

TwistedChief 11-09-2022 09:34 AM

I watched the Vikings/Dolphins game. Oh man... the Vikings offense was so insanely predictable and boring. It was amazing having players like Jefferson and Cook and it looked like their offense was running in quicksand against a defense that's been very mediocre.

I don't think they matchup well with a healthy Bills team at all, but of course, Bills aren't all that healthy.

displacedinMN 11-09-2022 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16590676)
Cousins just can't get it done when the lights come on. Primetime games, stretch runs, playoffs - he just can't do it when it really matters.

he is in the neighborhood of 1-16 on monday/thursday/night games

ptlyon 11-09-2022 10:33 AM

Pizza ranch guy

JustDíqLix 11-09-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16590721)
Lol. The Chiefs aren't battle tested?

They are.

But the Bills have beaten that battle tested Chiefs team 2 of the last 3 times and were a bad coaching decision away from beating them 3 times in a row.

TomBarndtsTwin 11-09-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16591124)
They are.

But the Bills have beaten that battle tested Chiefs team 2 of the last 3 times and were a bad coaching decision away from beating them 3 times in a row.

Meh.

And the Chiefs have beaten the Bills the last 2 times when it REALLY mattered.


Until that changes . . . . .

mr. tegu 11-09-2022 11:37 AM

Bills going to be in third place in their own division after this week. Bills fans love excuses though so at least they can blame it on Allen’s elbow.

irafreak 11-09-2022 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16591124)
They are.

But the Bills have beaten that battle tested Chiefs team 2 of the last 3 times and were a bad coaching decision away from beating them 3 times in a row.

I still can't fault the coach for kicking it deep. Tyreek had a huge punt return earlier in the game. I mean 13 seconds...the defense should have been able to keep the from driving the field in 2 plays...

tredadda 11-09-2022 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16591124)
They are.

But the Bills have beaten that battle tested Chiefs team 2 of the last 3 times and were a bad coaching decision away from beating them 3 times in a row.

KC was a slipped CB away from making that coaching decision irrelevant.

JustDíqLix 11-09-2022 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 16591257)
I still can't fault the coach for kicking it deep. Tyreek had a huge punt return earlier in the game. I mean 13 seconds...the defense should have been able to keep the from driving the field in 2 plays...

I think people meant squib kicking, and not playing defense 20 yards back leaving the middle of the field open.

JustDíqLix 11-09-2022 12:12 PM

Radio show just said Vikings have played a backup QB in 5 of their 8 games so far.

Could be 6 of 9 if Allen is out this week.

tredadda 11-09-2022 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16591282)
I think people meant squib kicking, and not playing defense 20 yards back leaving the middle of the field open.

Even then the leagues #1 defense should have been able to get 1 stop in 13 seconds.

Megatron96 11-09-2022 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16590676)
Cousins just can't get it done when the lights come on. Primetime games, stretch runs, playoffs - he just can't do it when it really matters.

First, I completely agree.

But, and this is just trivia, but didn't MIN beat somebody last season during a PT game? Thought I remembered that.

And some people will scoff at the whole idea that Cousins is "cursed" in PT games. Whatever. He's lost most of those PT games, and there's no denying that.

Regardless, Cousins doesn't do well when he's pressured and/or he has to improvise. If he can play on time and on schedule and his receivers do the same to get open, he's good. Any part of that fails, and he has to create, forget about it.

mr. tegu 11-09-2022 12:20 PM

The line went from 7.5 to 3.5.

Megatron96 11-09-2022 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16591124)
They are.

But the Bills have beaten that battle tested Chiefs team 2 of the last 3 times and were a bad coaching decision away from beating them 3 times in a row.

hmm. the 'battle tested' thing is so subjective, I hate using it to prop up any argument. How many times in the last four years have had trolls come in here and scream, "we're more battle tested than you are''?

BUF is the best team in the AFC right now. On paper, they are the most complete team.

But it's also true that BUF hasn't beaten KC in the playoffs in the Mahomes era. So who's more battle tested? The team that's won a couple regular season matchups, or the team that got the W in the playoffs when it mattered the most?

Which team has been to the AFCCG and won it more often since 2018?

From that perspective, KC is obviously the more battle tested team, and BUF isn't "battle tested" at all.

DRM08 11-09-2022 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16591293)
Radio show just said Vikings have played a backup QB in 5 of their 8 games so far.

That's amazing luck for the Vikings

ptlyon 11-09-2022 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16591321)
The line went from 7.5 to 3.5.

Woooo doggie!

JustDíqLix 11-09-2022 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16591328)
hmm. the 'battle tested' thing is so subjective, I hate using it to prop up any argument. How many times in the last four years have had trolls come in here and scream, "we're more battle tested than you are''?

BUF is the best team in the AFC right now. On paper, they are the most complete team.

But it's also true that BUF hasn't beaten KC in the playoffs in the Mahomes era. So who's more battle tested? The team that's won a couple regular season matchups, or the team that got the W in the playoffs when it mattered the most?

Which team has been to the AFCCG and won it more often since 2018?

From that perspective, KC is obviously the more battle tested team, and BUF isn't "battle tested" at all.

Agreed.

It’s KC’s crown until someone takes it from them.

Mahomes shitting the bed doesn’t qualify as Cinci giving it to them IMO. I know people won’t like that but KC was the better team regardless of outcome.

htismaqe 11-09-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16591306)
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First, I completely agree.

But, and this is just trivia, but didn't MIN beat somebody last season during a PT game? Thought I remembered that.

And some people will scoff at the whole idea that Cousins is "cursed" in PT games. Whatever. He's lost most of those PT games, and there's no denying that.

Regardless, Cousins doesn't do well when he's pressured and/or he has to improvise. If he can play on time and on schedule and his receivers do the same to get open, he's good. Any part of that fails, and he has to create, forget about it.

He's not cursed, he's just not a great QB.

ToxSocks 11-09-2022 02:33 PM

Great. Now we're all set up for Keenum's revenge.

ptlyon 11-09-2022 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16591706)
He's not cursed, he just sucks. .

FYP

ToxSocks 11-09-2022 02:38 PM

A Keenum led Bills vs a Cousins led Vikings is a much more evenly matched game all of a sudden. It's not like Keenum isn't capable in spot duty.

raybec 4 11-09-2022 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRyan (Post 16591402)
Agreed.

It’s KC’s crown until someone takes it from them.

Mahomes shitting the bed doesn’t qualify as Cinci giving it to them IMO. I know people won’t like that but KC was the better team regardless of outcome.

I doubt anyone with any sense has heartburn with that statement. It's definitely true. We love Mahomes but can recognize he wasn't good in the AFCCG

Oxford 11-09-2022 02:51 PM

Buffalo weather on Sunday, seasonal (for Buffalo NY)

DRM08 11-09-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16591750)
I doubt anyone with any sense has heartburn with that statement. It's definitely true. We love Mahomes but can recognize he wasn't good in the AFCCG

Well...2nd half was a meltdown. First half was incredibly good. He had pretty much the biggest gap in performance you can possibly have in the same game. ESPN gave him 98/100 QBR for the first half and 2/100 QBR for the second half. Lol

htismaqe 11-09-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 16591721)
FYP

Yeah, I don't know if Cousins "sucks". I think he's one of those game manager types that can really excel when he's surrounded with weapons. A lot like Matt Ryan in Atlanta.


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