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RaidersOftheCellar 11-11-2022 09:13 AM

7 predictions by Nate Taylor
 
Will Patrick Mahomes be named MVP? What seed will Chiefs earn? Seven predictions

By Nate Taylor

Spoiler!


https://theathletic.com/3819533/2022...3&redirected=1

Marcellus 11-11-2022 09:22 AM

:clap:

KC_Lee 11-11-2022 09:22 AM

Mahomes will win the NFL MVP award - Agreed, he's showing why he's the MVP on arm angles alone
Odell Beckham Jr. will not join the Chiefs - Agreed, not really seeing a need for OBJ
Rookie Skyy Moore’s production will be ordinary, at best - Agreed, the kid needs some seasoning but I remain hopeful
Smith-Schuster will return to Kansas City for next season - 50 / 50 on this one, money talks and playing with PMII will make JuJu's market value rise
Chris Jones will lead all defensive tackles in pressures - I would love to agree with this one, but got a sense that Jones is in the top 5, maybe top 3, but not at the top of the list
The Chiefs will face the Dolphins in the playoffs - would love to see it, not sure if it plays out this way, but if it does I want it bitterly cold for the game
Arrowhead Stadium will host yet another AFC Championship Game - unless Buffalo pulls a Tits and loses their first playoff game I see KC vs. Buff in Buffalo

RunKC 11-11-2022 09:25 AM

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tredadda 11-11-2022 09:27 AM

I like this much better than ESPNs awful predictions.

Red Dawg 11-11-2022 09:34 AM

Can't say I don't like any of that.

scho63 11-11-2022 09:36 AM

Would be just perfect for me!

KChiefs1 11-11-2022 09:41 AM

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Just an FYI guys you can read the athletic or nyt or anything on your iPhone if you’re not subscribed.

Open the link in a new tab, go to the bottom of the screen and you’ll see a aA then click “show reader” and it will have it all for ya but a different format.

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Hog's Gone Fishin 11-11-2022 09:41 AM

If Miami makes playoffs and actually win a game look for Tyreek to be mentioned for MVP.

htismaqe 11-11-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16594749)
If Miami makes playoffs and actually win a game look for Tyreek to be mentioned for MVP.

He's already in the conversation pretty much everywhere. He ain't winning it over a QB, though. He'll probably win OPOY.

Hammock Parties 11-11-2022 09:57 AM

the specificity of taylor's claim on juju makes me think a deal is all but done

BWillie 11-11-2022 10:10 AM

Total fluff piece

Spott 11-11-2022 10:10 AM

Given the history of the MVP’s losing in the playoffs, I’d be perfectly fine with Hill getting it.

Red Dawg 11-11-2022 10:11 AM

Kupp led every WR in every category and caught the game winner in the SB. Hill will not do better than that.

If that didn't get Kupp MVP then Hill won't either.

O.city 11-11-2022 10:12 AM

Other than draft status, what should lead me to be confident in skyy moore?

Not taking a side here, just curious why some are so confident

ThaVirus 11-11-2022 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16594749)
If Miami makes playoffs and actually win a game look for Tyreek to be mentioned for MVP.

MVP is a regular season award

Rain Man 11-11-2022 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16594721)
Before Thursday’s practice, Smith-Schuster gave his most revealing answer this season about whether he wants to continue his career with the Chiefs.

“I would love to stay here, to be honest,” he said. “This offense is unbelievable, the coaching staff is unbelievable. If it was up to me, of course. You’re playing with one of the best quarterbacks.”

One of the best? ONE of the best?

If you want to stay here, Mr. Smith-Schuster, you need to start paying proper respect to your quarterback.

The best. THE best.

Coochie liquor 11-11-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16594801)
Other than draft status, what should lead me to be confident in skyy moore?

Not taking a side here, just curious why some are so confident

I’d say the future is bright for him. He’s a rook, and most times they don’t make a lot of noise year one with Andy.

PHOG 11-11-2022 11:38 AM

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Smith-Schuster will return to Kansas City for next season

Before Thursday’s practice, Smith-Schuster gave his most revealing answer this season about whether he wants to continue his career with the Chiefs.

“I would love to stay here, to be honest,” he said. “This offense is unbelievable, the coaching staff is unbelievable. If it was up to me, of course. You’re playing with one of the best quarterbacks.”
Why wouldn't it be up to him? Other than KC not wanting him back, which I don't foresee. :hmmm:

KChiefs1 11-11-2022 11:41 AM

I’d be happy if all those happened.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-11-2022 01:18 PM

I wasn’t sold on Moore before the season, and I tried to talk to myself into being sold, but his past just doesn’t scream “star in the making.” I’m sure he’ll be a decent contributor but I’m not expecting greatness.

Pitt Gorilla 11-11-2022 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16594801)
Other than draft status, what should lead me to be confident in skyy moore?

Not taking a side here, just curious why some are so confident

His route-running and ability to get open. He's a Kelce-lite without the TE size. He's going to be fine.

Rausch 11-11-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16595149)
I wasn’t sold on Moore before the season, and I tried to talk to myself into being sold, but his past just doesn’t scream “star in the making.” I’m sure he’ll be a decent contributor but I’m not expecting greatness.

I think Furious George falls into the same category. I think they'll both be solid players but not what everyone thinks of when they talk about 1st or 2nd round picks. They'll be solid contributors.

htismaqe 11-11-2022 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16595170)
I think Furious George falls into the same category. I think they'll both be solid players but not what everyone thinks of when they talk about 1st or 2nd round picks. They'll be solid contributors.

A lot of 1st and 2nd round picks become solid contributors. A lot more than the guys that become stars.

You have to draft for floor sometimes, just as much as for ceiling.

oldman 11-11-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 16594982)
Why wouldn't it be up to him? Other than KC not wanting him back, which I don't foresee. :hmmm:

If Veach offers a reasonable contract, I think he'll be back. He seems to have a rapport with PMII and that could lead to multiple rings and perhaps HOF status.

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16595149)
I wasn’t sold on Moore before the season, and I tried to talk to myself into being sold, but his past just doesn’t scream “star in the making.” I’m sure he’ll be a decent contributor but I’m not expecting greatness.

I think you have to give Moore a little slack. He's in some fans doghouse for those muffed punts, but he's also a rookie. Hardman most likely will be gone after this season, so it's up to him to wrestle snaps away from Toney.

ToxSocks 11-11-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 16594982)
Why wouldn't it be up to him? Other than KC not wanting him back, which I don't foresee. :hmmm:

"It's not up to me" is code for, "If my agent and the Chiefs strike a deal".

oldman 11-11-2022 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16595170)
I think Furious George falls into the same category. I think they'll both be solid players but not what everyone thinks of when they talk about 1st or 2nd round picks. They'll be solid contributors.

This guy is a rookie, too. He's still not used to putting his hand in the dirt. Give him a full off season of fine tuning and working the weights and he'll be a force. His motor is his strong suit right now and that can't be taught.

ToxSocks 11-11-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16594801)
Other than draft status, what should lead me to be confident in skyy moore?

Not taking a side here, just curious why some are so confident

He's a smooth, fluid athlete that's demonstrated strong hands.

If Toney develops into a true #1, Moore could be a dangerous compliment. Assuming they could keep Hardman, the trio of Hardman/Toney/Moore could be an intriguing one. You'd want one big bodied stud that can get downfield to round that group off.

Moore is NOT Hardman's replacement, i've seen people say that and...no.

NJChiefsFan 11-11-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16595174)
A lot of 1st and 2nd round picks become solid contributors. A lot more than the guys that become stars.

You have to draft for floor sometimes, just as much as for ceiling.

Yep. KC has the only real star it needs at the only real position you need one. Having a bunch of B+ guys in other spots is not bad. And we hit a decent amount in later rounds. It's not like you HAVE to find your stars in the first 2 rounds.

If Moore had Toney's talent and Toney had Moore's I feel like more people would be bullish than currently are. It doesn't matter where the talent comes from.

PHOG 11-11-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16595206)
"It's not up to me" is code for, "If my agent and the Chiefs strike a deal".

That's exactly what I thought. Just tell your damn agent to get it done Juju, the sooner the better! :D

tyecopeland 11-11-2022 06:39 PM

Chris Jones is good at football

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Double team rate at defensive tackle (x) by pass rush win rate at defensive tackle (y), updated through 11/11.<br><br>(ESPN Analytics / NFL Next Gen Stats) <a href="https://t.co/HLQ4IgrYUh">pic.twitter.com/HLQ4IgrYUh</a></p>&mdash; Seth Walder (@SethWalder) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1591144154960171026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 11-11-2022 07:40 PM

jesus he's going to break the bank

BossChief 11-11-2022 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16594801)
Other than draft status, what should lead me to be confident in skyy moore?

Not taking a side here, just curious why some are so confident

His times in the splits snd the quickness testing was all very good. Designed for this offense kind of skill set. Good deep speed but his ability to accelerate and cut on a dime are top notch.

Only dropped 5 passes total in 3 years in college.

Only played 3 years at WR in his life, and for smaller school with a limited coaching staff.

He’s definitely out there overthinking instead of playing fast…I think he’s going to keep getting better as the year goes on and still think he’s going to be our Chocolate Welker in the coming future. He’s definetely had his struggles early on, but the tools are still in the toolbox to be a nearly perfect fit for this offense long term.

I bet he has a 50-70 yard game with a TD in the next couple weeks.

Toney and Skyy are going to eat MVS targets.

BossChief 11-11-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16595744)
Chris Jones is good at football

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Double team rate at defensive tackle (x) by pass rush win rate at defensive tackle (y), updated through 11/11.<br><br>(ESPN Analytics / NFL Next Gen Stats) <a href="https://t.co/HLQ4IgrYUh">pic.twitter.com/HLQ4IgrYUh</a></p>&mdash; Seth Walder (@SethWalder) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/1591144154960171026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That’s some gold jacket type shit

WhawhaWhat 11-11-2022 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16594752)
He's already in the conversation pretty much everywhere. He ain't winning it over a QB, though. He'll probably win OPOY.

Tyreek has a shot at 2,000 yards if he keep going at this rate. Would be the first ever to that mark although it's 17 games now. But he also had Skyler Thompson throwing to him for 1.5 games.


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