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Halfcan 11-11-2022 07:53 PM

5000, 50, 500, 5
 
Could Mahomes ever pass for 5,000 yards with 50 TD's along with 500 yards Rushing and 5 Rushing TD's?

Only Mahomes and Manning have hit the 5,000- 50 mark.

Manning passed for 5,477 yards *NFL Record and 55 TD's * NFL Record, but had -32 yards Rushing Yards and 1 TD.

Mahomes passed for 5,097 yards and 50 TD's and had 272 Rushing Yards and 2 TD's

Both did it in 16 games.

493rd 11-11-2022 07:54 PM

No.

Hammock Parties 11-11-2022 07:56 PM

Mahomes has a very good shot to be the only QB in NFL history with two 50 TD seasons

he's gonna need a couple more 5 TD games to make up for the Titans though

Rainbarrel 11-11-2022 07:56 PM

Allen shouldn't run so much. Mahomes shouldn't throw so much

FlaChief58 11-11-2022 07:56 PM

Honestly I hope he never has to run that much. I cringe every time he takes a hit

Halfcan 11-11-2022 08:01 PM

9 QBs have 5,000-yard seasons with Marino being the first in 1984 (48 TDs) -but he had -7 yards rushing and 0 Rushing TDs.

Halfcan 11-11-2022 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16595829)
Mahomes has a very good shot to be the only QB in NFL history with two 50 TD seasons

he's gonna need a couple more 5 TD games to make up for the Titans though

Mahomes had 381 Rushing yards last year and 2 Tds. I think the Rushing part is the most difficult for him to attain.

Bearcat 11-11-2022 08:04 PM

I don't see why not... he scores a couple rushing TDs/season, so what's a few more, and he's gotten close to 400 yards rushing once. And to get 500 yards rushing last season, he'd only need 1.2 more attempts/game at his 5.8 average.

Nothing crazy.

Halfcan 11-11-2022 08:07 PM

Drew Brees hit the 5,000 yard mark for a NFL record 5 times.

5,476 yards (NFL Record 2011-until Manning broke it) with 48 Tds- 86 Rushing yards and 1 TD was the close he got to the Holy Grail.

Halfcan 11-11-2022 08:11 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ds_in_a_season

Passing for 5,000 yards in a single regular season is a rare achievement in the National Football League (NFL). Some consider it a soft benchmark, comparable to the 10-second 100-metre dash or the 4-minute mile.[original research?] Nine quarterbacks have accomplished the feat, Dan Marino was the first when he set an NFL record with 5,084 yards passing in 1984.[1] Marino's record remained intact for 24 years, and for over a decade after his 1999 retirement.[2] Peyton Manning currently holds the record with 5,477 passing yards in 2013; this surpassed Drew Brees, who recorded a then-record 5,476 passing yards in 2011, by one yard. Drew Brees and Tom Brady are the only two NFL quarterbacks to have multiple 5,000 yards seasons; Brees accomplished the feat a record five times, while Brady accomplished it twice.[3] Brees and Brady are also the only two quarterbacks to pass for both 5,000 yards more than once and have multiple 500-yard games (however separately). Matthew Stafford is the only 5,000-yard passer with a 500-yard game in the same season. Except for Marino (564) and Mahomes (580), all quarterbacks have needed at least 600 passing attempts to get the yardage. Only Marino (362), Winston (380), and Mahomes (383) have done so with fewer than 400 pass completions.

In 2011, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Matthew Stafford threw for over 5,000 yards. Patrick Mahomes and Ben Roethlisberger both accomplished it in 2018. NFL quarterbacks have passed for 5,000 yards in a season thirteen times. Despite the rarity of a 5,000 yard season, only three quarterbacks were named MVP the year of their 5,000 season: Marino, Manning, and Mahomes. Stafford, Roethlisberger, and Jameis Winston are the only quarterbacks to not be selected to the Pro Bowl the same year of their 5,000 season. Tom Brady and Justin Herbert accomplished this feat most recently; the former passing for 5,316 yards with 43 passing touchdowns for the 2021 season, becoming the oldest quarterback to accomplish this feat at 44 years old. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the only franchise to have multiple quarterbacks (Winston and Brady) accomplish 5,000 passing yards.

NFL players with 5,000 passing yards in a season

Drew Brees has the most 5,000-yard seasons by a quarterback, with five.
Quarterback Team Yards Season Games played Notes
Dan Marino* Miami Dolphins 5,084 1984 16 1st in NFL history, youngest to achieve 5,000 yards,[4]
NFL MVP
Drew Brees New Orleans Saints 5,069 2008 16 Offensive Player of the Year[5]
Drew Brees (2) New Orleans Saints 5,476 2011 16 Offensive Player of the Year
Tom Brady New England Patriots 5,235 16 [6]
Matthew Stafford Detroit Lions 5,038 16 Comeback Player of the Year[7]
Drew Brees (3) New Orleans Saints 5,177 2012 16 2nd consecutive
Peyton Manning* Denver Broncos 5,477 2013 16 NFL record,[8] NFL MVP
Drew Brees (4) New Orleans Saints 5,162 16 3rd consecutive
Drew Brees (5) New Orleans Saints 5,208 2016 16
Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers 5,129 2018 16 [9]
Patrick Mahomes* Kansas City Chiefs 5,097 16 NFL MVP, first African-American quarterback to pass for 5,000 yards
Jameis Winston Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5,109 2019 16 Led NFL in interceptions (30)[10]
Tom Brady (2) Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5,316 2021 17 Oldest to achieve 5,000 yards. Had only 4990 yards after 16 games
Justin Herbert Los Angeles Chargers 5,014 17 [11]
*Named MVP

kccrow 11-11-2022 08:31 PM

5000 yards yes
50 tds yes
500 rush yards no
5 tds yes

tredadda 11-11-2022 08:37 PM

Hope he doesn’t get 50 TDs. The only year he hit that mark our defense was atrocious and cost us a shot at a SB.

T-post Tom 11-11-2022 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 16595831)
Honestly I hope he never has to run that much. I cringe every time he takes a hit

Me too!

Halfcan 11-11-2022 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16595859)
5000 yards yes
50 tds yes
500 rush yards no
5 tds yes

Yep, the 5 Rushing Touchdowns seem a bit out of reach unless he went on an extraordinary run where he had to run like he did against the Titans.

Pablo 11-11-2022 09:46 PM

If anybody can do it, Pat can.

Hammock Parties 11-11-2022 10:08 PM

the running game ****ing sucks

he can absolutely get 4 rushing TDs in 9 games

the steam 11-11-2022 10:26 PM

He will get 50 TD passes the way Andy calls games. 5000 yds might be tough

trndobrd 11-12-2022 07:54 AM

Is it possible? Sure, it could happen, but it is highly unlikely.

5000 passing yards and 50 TDs, could be done.

Mahomes could get 5 rushing TDs on goal line scampers to the pylon, but those would effectively be coming at the cost of a passing TD.

The only scenario where I see Mahomes averaging 32 rushing yards a game is a season were the offense is not producing at a rate to meet the 5000yd/50 TD mark and Mahomes is constantly forced to run. (see Titans game).

RedRaider56 11-12-2022 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 16595903)
Yep, the 5 Rushing Touchdowns seem a bit out of reach unless he went on an extraordinary run where he had to run like he did against the Titans.

It could be in reach if he was allowed to do QB sneaks at the goal line like TB12. But, I don't think we'll live to see that day...

tredadda 11-12-2022 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the steam (Post 16595929)
He will get 50 TD passes the way Andy calls games. 5000 yds might be tough

He’s on pace for well over 5,000 yards but only 42-43 TDs. It’s going to be tougher for him to get 50 TDs. The 5,000 yards is realistic because our run game is just not producing right now.

Bowser 11-12-2022 10:45 AM

Possible, yes.

Probable, ehhh

Halfcan 11-12-2022 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16596230)
He’s on pace for well over 5,000 yards but only 42-43 TDs. It’s going to be tougher for him to get 50 TDs. The 5,000 yards is realistic because our run game is just not producing right now.

Yep, it is fun to think about though. It would be the most amazing QB season of all time.

ChiefBlueCFC 11-12-2022 02:53 PM

Could he? Yes. Will he? I doubt it. If he’s running for 500 he isn’t passing for 5,000.

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-12-2022 02:54 PM

Throw a lot of 1 yd TD passes.

Get the defense to obtain turnovers for short drives and more opportunities.

Lot of factors need to go right. Is it impossible? No.

Megatron96 11-12-2022 05:18 PM

Think he goes over 5000, under 50 TDs (45ish?), I don't see 500 yds rushing (has just 176 now), and under 5 rushing TDs. Just a product of the schedule. He's probably not going to have to run that much in most of the upcoming games or run for TDs. Four of those remaining games could be early nights/days for Pat as well.


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