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Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 11:19 AM

Can the Vikings lose yet another NFC Championship?
 
You know the stories! There is nothing like a Minnesota Vikings NFC Championship loss!

In 1987 the Vikings were all set to tie the Redskins in the fourth quarter...Wade Wilson threw a perfect pass on 4th and goal...BUT THEY DROPPED THE BALL!

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In 1998 the Vikings were ready to take a 10-point lead with 2 minutes left, but Gary Anderson, who had not missed a kick IN TWO YEARS...WIDE LEFT!

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In 2009, Brett Favre had the Saints ON THE ROPES and tried to be Mahomes and THREW A TERRIBLE PICK!

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In 2017 CASE KEENUM happened

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Can it happen again? SURVEY SAYS...YES!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Vikings also will now play five of six games at home. They won&#39;t play outdoors again until Week 17.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1591916257305153536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The VIKINGS are going to be the one seed. That means, If the Vikings, can win just one playoff game, they can indeed LOSE in the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP...AGAIN!

SKOL!

RealSNR 11-14-2022 11:26 AM

Bud Grant is still alive. They should hire him so he can take them to the SB and lose.

Mecca 11-14-2022 11:33 AM

They're probably not the one seed...the Eagles schedule is so easy they could legit go undefeated and they have to lose 2 for Minnesota to be the 1.

Sassy Squatch 11-14-2022 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16603572)
They're probably not the one seed...the Eagles schedule is so easy they could legit go undefeated and they have to lose 2 for Minnesota to be the 1.

Huh? They've still got the Giants twice. That's a feisty squad.

Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16603572)
They're probably not the one seed...the Eagles schedule is so easy they could legit go undefeated and they have to lose 2 for Minnesota to be the 1.

EITHER WAY! VIKINGS IN THE NFCCG BABY!

Mecca 11-14-2022 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16603599)
Huh? They've still got the Giants twice. That's a feisty squad.

The Giants are about the most fools gold team I've ever seen.

Sassy Squatch 11-14-2022 11:48 AM

LMAO and the Eagles aren't? This is a huge factor in their success, and it's a significant outlier. They almost assuredly aren't going to be so lopsided in turnovers going forward and that may very well bring them down to earth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhioYTAW...png&name=large

Mecca 11-14-2022 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16603616)
LMAO and the Eagles aren't? This is a huge factor in their success, and it's a significant outlier. They almost assuredly aren't going to be so lopsided in turnovers going forward and that may very well bring them down to earth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhioYTAW...png&name=large

Not saying the Eagles aren't benefitting from a super easy schedule but their team has more talent than the Giants team.

Of those 2 I'll take the Eagles every time.

Chief Pagan 11-14-2022 12:03 PM

I could see the Vikes losing to the Eagles in the NFC championship.

chiefzilla1501 11-14-2022 12:03 PM

I mean, their receivers are a whole other level of absurd. But for a team that is predominantly winning on offense their struggles against Philly are a cautionary tale. Kirk cousins has a lot of really really good games but he’s always due for a few worst of the worst performances imaginable.

I think the eagles and giants are way less dependent on their qb which makes them way better bets. And I’m not sure putting cousins through the gauntlet of some truly excellent defenses like Philly and Dallas or hell arguably Tampa is reassuring. He will have to beat some really good defenses week after week

htismaqe 11-14-2022 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16603667)
I mean, their receivers are a whole other level of absurd. But for a team that is predominantly winning on offense their struggles against Philly are a cautionary tale. Kirk cousins has a lot of really really good games but he’s always due for a few worst of the worst performances imaginable.

I think the eagles and giants are way less dependent on their qb which makes them way better bets. And I’m not sure putting cousins through the gauntlet of some truly excellent defenses like Philly and Dallas or hell arguably Tampa is reassuring. He will have to beat some really good defenses week after week

That truly excellent defense in Dallas got beat by Christian Watson. Single-handedly.

tk13 11-14-2022 12:19 PM

The Eagles have a pretty weak schedule but I think they have the most talent. They've got elite WRs, a good group of RBs, their defense is talented up and down. Hurts is doing great too it's just how he looks in a playoff situation. Does look like they still have to go to Dallas which should be a good test. But other than Brady the rest of the NFC playoff QBs probably will have question marks.

notorious 11-14-2022 12:24 PM

Kirk Cousins.

Need we say more?

Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 12:30 PM

i still wanna see brady run through this cast of mediocre to overrated NFC QBs...only to lose to Mahomes

LEGEND!

Bearcat 11-14-2022 12:46 PM

If the Chiefs make it to the SB, it might be the most stressful to date if it's a close game. 49ers was somewhat "happy to be here"... I was really confident against TB, but that turned angry due to the refs and high school OL.

Playing the Bills, you know it's going to be a toss-up.... but getting through the AFC and then playing one of these jokes from the NFC? Yeah, you HAVE to win that gift of a game and it would stress me the **** out. LMAO

Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16603776)
getting through the AFC and then playing one of these jokes from the NFC? Yeah, you HAVE to win that gift of a game and it would stress me the **** out. LMAO

The Chiefs are on a mission, bro.

Job. Ain't. Finished.


Mahomes words from last season.

ptlyon 11-14-2022 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16603727)
Kirk Cousins.

Need we say more?

You ask for miracles? I give you the FBI.

seamonster 11-14-2022 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16603702)
The Eagles have a pretty weak schedule but I think they have the most talent. They've got elite WRs, a good group of RBs, their defense is talented up and down. Hurts is doing great too it's just how he looks in a playoff situation. Does look like they still have to go to Dallas which should be a good test. But other than Brady the rest of the NFC playoff QBs probably will have question marks.

Phili is stacked. top tier d-backs. D line is stout. Running game can get rolling. QB isn't throwing the football to the wrong team. Get to play the Manders twice. They'll be #1.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-14-2022 01:11 PM

Super Bowl 4 rematch?

Megatron96 11-14-2022 01:20 PM

Of course they can. having Cousins as your QB will do that to you.

But having Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen, and Dalvin Cook can offset a lot of Kirk's flaws, so they have a better chance to emerge from the NFC than most years.

Graystoke 11-14-2022 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16603824)
Super Bowl 4 rematch?

Oh HELL YES PLEASE

TEX 11-14-2022 01:23 PM

Sure they can lose another one. With Cousins, all things are possible.

TEX 11-14-2022 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16603824)
Super Bowl 4 rematch?

I'm down. :thumb:

St. Patty's Fire 11-14-2022 01:30 PM

imo the nfc either ends w the eagles pounding the vikings or the giants upsetting the eagles

chiefzilla1501 11-14-2022 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16603698)
That truly excellent defense in Dallas got beat by Christian Watson. Single-handedly.

Sure, any given Sunday… but they also have plenty of great defensive games too. It’s not saying their d is good enough to make that team a Super Bowl team. Just that it can definitely be good enough on any given playoff game to give cousins a tough time. The point is that for the vikes to advance they’ll play some really good defenses and all it takes is for 1 to step up and have a big game.

That goes for any qb, by the way. But cousins moreso because he’s had so many negative performances with the brightest of lights on. Mahomes showed vs Tennessee why you need a qb who can climb you out even when things aren’t working

NJChiefsFan 11-14-2022 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 16603860)
imo the nfc either ends w the eagles pounding the vikings or the giants upsetting the eagles

Even Giants fans don't really believe in the Giants. I don't see them making a real run.

MarkDavis'Haircut 11-14-2022 04:40 PM

Vikings are cursed to fail.

Imon Yourside 11-14-2022 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16603743)
i still wanna see brady run through this cast of mediocre to overrated NFC QBs...only to lose to Mahomes

LEGEND!

I wished for this last time then the line fell apart and the refs entered the picture.

Chiefspants 11-14-2022 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16603776)
If the Chiefs make it to the SB, it might be the most stressful to date if it's a close game. 49ers was somewhat "happy to be here"... I was really confident against TB, but that turned angry due to the refs and high school OL.

Playing the Bills, you know it's going to be a toss-up.... but getting through the AFC and then playing one of these jokes from the NFC? Yeah, you HAVE to win that gift of a game and it would stress me the **** out. LMAO

I think I’d be pretty chill about it unless it’s a rematch with the Bucs.

I can not take another loss to that asshole and his refs.

TripleThreat 11-14-2022 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16603572)
They're probably not the one seed...the Eagles schedule is so easy they could legit go undefeated and they have to lose 2 for Minnesota to be the 1.

Eagles are getting exposed tonight.

Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16604304)
I wished for this last time then the line fell apart and the refs entered the picture.

we have massive depth on the ol

Spott 11-14-2022 06:54 PM

That choke job in 98 was terrible. Would have been a great matchup to see that 15-1 Vikings team with Carter, Moss, Jake Reed and Robert Smith go up against the donks. Instead we got to watch a mediocre Falcons team led by Chris Miller get blown out.

Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16604436)
That choke job in 98 was terrible. Would have been a great matchup to see that 15-1 Vikings team with Carter, Moss, Jake Reed and Robert Smith go up against the donks. Instead we got to watch a mediocre Falcons team led by Chris Miller get blown out.

that was as bad as the 94 super bowl

should have been 49ers/Steelers

BWillie 11-14-2022 07:00 PM

I have faith they can

Spott 11-14-2022 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16604439)
that was as bad as the 94 super bowl

should have been 49ers/Steelers

Agreed. Pittsburgh dominated San Diego that whole game except for 2 long passes for TD’s that were both on 4th down, IIRC. Pitt outgained them like 3-1 in total yards and still blew it.

Chiefspants 11-14-2022 07:04 PM

Both teams who would have created an iconic Super Bowl lost their championship games in the 2018 season.

displacedinMN 11-14-2022 07:06 PM

people here talk about the epic collapses of the vikings.

I have a co-worker that was at the 98 game. He said it was dead silent.

The hopes are high here especially after sunday. But fate is not on their side.

TripleThreat 11-14-2022 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 16604340)
Eagles are getting exposed tonight.

?????

Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 16604451)
I have a co-worker that was at the 98 game. He said it was dead silent.

always thought that was worse than any chiefs playoff collapse

like watching your dog maul your kid

KChiefs1 11-14-2022 11:19 PM

The Vikings have the most NFL Films “Missing Rings” episodes.

Chiefshrink 11-14-2022 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16603727)
Kirk Cousins.

Need we say more?

BINGO !!

Hammock Parties 11-14-2022 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16605026)
The Vikings have the most NFL Films “Missing Rings” episodes.

i actually didn't even know about the 87 collapse until today

after stomping montana, that would have ruined me as a sports fan for awhile

and 2009...if mahomes ever throws a pick of that variety in that situation in an afccg i will just cry myself to sleep

displacedinMN 11-15-2022 09:14 AM

The Brett Farve game was the Bountygate game. Williams is a dirty coach and so was Peyton.

BWillie 11-15-2022 01:51 PM

The 9-1 Vikings are 1.5 point dogs...at home...vs Dallas. DALLAS.

Loool

Megatron96 11-15-2022 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16606075)
The 9-1 Vikings are 1.5 point dogs...at home...vs Dallas. DALLAS.

Loool


that seems insane. Or at least bordering on wishful.

If MIN can establish their rushing attack, DAL will be in big trouble.

Wait, is this a PT game? Cousins generally goes into the shitter in OT.

ptlyon 11-15-2022 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16606083)
Wait, is this a PT game? Cousins generally goes into the shitter in OT.

3:25. I'm assuming it will be the fox game of the week.

Scratch that, it's on CBS.

Spott 11-15-2022 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16605032)
i actually didn't even know about the 87 collapse until today

after stomping montana, that would have ruined me as a sports fan for awhile

and 2009...if mahomes ever throws a pick of that variety in that situation in an afccg i will just cry myself to sleep

I think 87 was that the year that Anthony Carter went off against the Niners in the playoffs. The strike that season kind of screwed up the standings at the end of the year because they counted the games that were played by replacement players.

Megatron96 11-15-2022 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 16606096)
3:25. I'm assuming it will be the fox game of the week.

Scratch that, it's on CBS.

Mmm. Kind of borderline. But playing DAL almost makes it a PT game, because Dallas.

If MIN sticks with the run and gets a little creative about how they integrate PA, DAL will have some real trouble.

displacedinMN 11-15-2022 03:53 PM

Minn also has the night game on Thanksgiving. At home vs the Pats.

given Cousins record, I would bet the pats.

Hammock Parties 01-15-2023 06:52 PM

OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE LOW FOR YOU BUT HOLY ****

backinblack 01-15-2023 06:59 PM

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InformalOn...se-max-1mb.gif

Chris Meck 01-15-2023 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16739241)
OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE LOW FOR YOU BUT HOLY ****

DANNY DIMES WITH THE PLAYOFF WIN!

LOLZ

Remember when we went like 25 years without one of those?

LOL

Megatron96 01-15-2023 07:01 PM

Ta-Da!!!

SuperBowl4 01-15-2023 07:22 PM

That last pass from Kirk Cousins to end the Vikings season was LAME!

Lzen 01-15-2023 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 16739343)
That last pass from Kirk Cousins to end the Vikings season was LAME!

Very Alex Smith like.

scho63 01-15-2023 09:51 PM

Why didn't the receiver just try to toss or fumble the ball as he was 6 yards short of 1st down.

Eleazar 01-15-2023 09:54 PM

Turns out the answer was no

Bump 01-15-2023 10:20 PM

poor Justin Jefferson, I saw a clip of him screaming **** KIRK THROW THE ****ING BALL

kccrow 01-16-2023 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 16740540)
poor Justin Jefferson, I saw a clip of him screaming **** KIRK THROW THE ****ING BALL

Pretty sure that was two years ago?

FringeNC 01-16-2023 08:59 AM

The analytics guys are right: going 11-0 in one score games is luck, not skill. Means nothing come playoff time.

notorious 01-16-2023 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16740818)
Pretty sure that was two years ago?

The kind of plight that echos through time.

O.city 01-16-2023 09:24 AM

They've gotta blow it up and start over. No way you walk this thing back, you know what's gonna happen.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2023 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16740964)
They've gotta blow it up and start over. No way you walk this thing back, you know what's gonna happen.

Who knows. Many of these owners are Carl Peterson types who want to win but are satisfied having an outside chance of winning a long as they have butts in seats. And kirk cousins does that for them.

notorious 01-16-2023 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16740964)
They've gotta blow it up and start over. No way you walk this thing back, you know what's gonna happen.

They need defense and a coordinator that knows how to use them.

Work on a replacement for outstanding citizenins, too.

O.city 01-16-2023 09:31 AM

They're 20 million over the cap for next year, so yeah, some guys are going to be let go.

Could be good for the Chiefs if they let a few good players go?

BigRock 01-16-2023 09:34 AM

Listened to the last 5 minutes on their radio feed. Paul Allen doesn't even get mad anymore. They broke him.

Bowser 01-16-2023 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16740284)
Why didn't the receiver just try to toss or fumble the ball as he was 6 yards short of 1st down.

He was probably shocked the pass came to him in the first place and just froze mentally.

notorious 01-16-2023 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 16740976)
Listened to the last 5 minutes on their radio feed. Paul Allen doesn't even get mad anymore. They broke him.

We’ve been there.

I fully understand.

RealSNR 01-16-2023 10:02 AM

Next level thinking: Can’t lose in the NFC Championship if you don’t make it there

Bowser 01-16-2023 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16741015)
Next level thinking: Can’t lose in the NFC Championship if you don’t make it there

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1fc7...temid=15497728

Renegade 01-16-2023 12:11 PM

Well there goes Mahomes adding the 31st team to his resume of teams he has beaten.

ptlyon 01-16-2023 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 16741224)
Well there goes Mahomes adding the 31st team to his resume of teams he has beaten.

We play them up there next year

Frosty 01-16-2023 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16741006)
He was probably shocked the pass came to him in the first place and just froze mentally.

Another question is why do you call a play that has the TE run a 3 yard route on 4th and 8?

scho63 01-16-2023 01:23 PM

No one bought the Vikings story this year.

New World Order 01-16-2023 01:35 PM

4th and 9 and Cousins checks it down for 4 yds to lose the game.

Classic Cousins

Megatron96 01-16-2023 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16741321)
4th and 9 and Cousins checks it down for 4 yds to lose the game.

Classic Cousins

Yeah. He panics, and when he does, he makes bad head-scratching decisions, like that last throw. Or even that throw to Justin Jefferson vs BUF (I think it was BUF); that throw was actually not very good. Cousins threw that ball like he was trying to over-throw Justin. If it weren't for Jefferson's exceptional athleticism and length, there's no way that's a catch, and it nearly wasn't.

Overall, though he's been pretty good for a while. He's got pretty good numbers across the board, as far as QB stats go. He needs several top-tier weapons, a solid running game, a good OL, to be that successful, meaning he can't make do with lesser weapons/OL/running game. He's just not that dude.

Anyway, if I were MIN ownership, I'd be looking for another QB, unless I thought I could build a top-10 defense for next season.

displacedinMN 01-16-2023 04:04 PM

Everyone wants the DC fired. Trending like heck on social media

They are in debt to Cousins, but should be able to pay another qb

ThaVirus 01-16-2023 04:16 PM

I think from a personnel perspective, the Vikings just sort of have to ride the wave until 2024. That's when it'll make some financial sense to start getting rid of guys like Cousins, Thielen, etc.

There is value in retaining guys into the new season. I think their roster is pretty good. Who knows, maybe they'll get lucky? If they don't, serious changes need to be made in 2024.

They need to draft a legitimate QBotf ASAP though.

Chiefshrink 01-16-2023 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16741314)
No one bought the Vikings story this year.

EXACTLY !!!!

Paper Tiger all along !!;)

Chiefshrink 01-16-2023 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16741533)
Yeah. He panics, and when he does, he makes bad head-scratching decisions, like that last throw. Or even that throw to Justin Jefferson vs BUF (I think it was BUF); that throw was actually not very good. Cousins threw that ball like he was trying to over-throw Justin. If it weren't for Jefferson's exceptional athleticism and length, there's no way that's a catch, and it nearly wasn't.

Overall, though he's been pretty good for a while. He's got pretty good numbers across the board, as far as QB stats go. He needs several top-tier weapons, a solid running game, a good OL, to be that successful, meaning he can't make do with lesser weapons/OL/running game. He's just not that dude.

Anyway, if I were MIN ownership, I'd be looking for another QB, unless I thought I could build a top-10 defense for next season.

He and Dak will NEVER win the big games needed. Oh sure they will flash just enough to get the fanbase at least in hope mode but seriously they will not take you to glory. Just watch Dak tonight!!


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