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jjchieffan 11-28-2022 10:35 AM

NFL top 10 quarterbacks
 
Boy has this list been reshaped this year. Concensus top 4 were Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Brady. After that in no particular order, were Burrow, Herbert, Wilson, Stafford, Carr, and Jackoff.
Right now, Mahomes is the number one, Tua, Allen, and Hurts and Burrow would round out the top 5. Dak would probably be next, then who? Herbert? Geno? Would you put Carr, Lamar, and/or Jimmy G in the top 10? I can't think of anyone else that I could put above them this year. Wilson, Brady, and Rodgers all fell off so much that they don't belong there anymore. (Wilson doesn't even belong in the league anymore).

smithandrew051 11-28-2022 10:38 AM

1. Mahomes
Tied for Last Place. Everyone else

MahomesMagic 11-28-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16631234)
Boy has this list been reshaped this year. Concensus top 4 were Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Brady. After that in no particular order, were Burrow, Herbert, Wilson, Stafford, Carr, and Jackoff.
Right now, Mahomes is the number one, Tua, Allen, and Hurts and Burrow would round out the top 5. Dak would probably be next, then who? Herbert? Geno? Would you put Carr, Lamar, and/or Jimmy G in the top 10? I can't think of anyone else that I could put above them this year. Wilson, Brady, and Rodgers all fell off so much that they don't belong there anymore. (Wilson doesn't even belong in the league anymore).

Sorry, I don't see it with Hurts.

He's having a great year but I still think lots of smoke and mirrors here.

tx4chiefs 11-28-2022 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16631239)
1. Mahomes
Tied for Last Place. Everyone else

I like this one.

O.city 11-28-2022 10:49 AM

Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Hurts
Cousins
Dak
Herbert
Tua
Jackson
Carr

In whatever order you wannna put them in I guess.

jjchieffan 11-28-2022 11:03 AM

I forgot about Cousins. He has been solid this year.

jjchieffan 11-28-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16631241)
Sorry, I don't see it with Hurts.

He's having a great year but I still think lots of smoke and mirrors here.

I agree. I'm not a fan of quarterbacks who run for as many yards as they throw. But, the media loves that crap and have him in the MVP conversation, so I had to put him in the top 5.

MahomesMagic 11-28-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16631321)
I agree. I'm not a fan of quarterbacks who run for as many yards as they throw. But, the media loves that crap and have him in the MVP conversation, so I had to put him in the top 5.

I think this is the Foles effect.

Great oline and scheme hiding his defects.



Of course Foles was sprung on the NFL late. I think NFL defenses figure this out before too long.

O.city 11-28-2022 11:11 AM

Of course they'll figure this out, then it's up to him to pivot and get better.

Happens to all young QBs.

BWillie 11-28-2022 12:00 PM

I don't know but Jimmy G has to be around #10. He's underrated. The test of a good QB is how you perform on 3rd downs and he is good on 3rd downs.

Megatron96 11-28-2022 12:37 PM

Lot of ways to think about this. But if I'm thinking I need to win one game, say the SB, and I can pick any QB I want, then probably in this order:

Mahomes
Allen
Hurts
Burrow
Tua
Herbert
Aaron Rodgers
Cousins
Dak
Jackson

Top-5 are pretty much in order. Tua is having a better season than Herbert right now, but obviously Herbert has the more elite physical abilities. Call it a coinflip at 5 & 6.

I'd take a healthy AR over any of the last three QBs just based on ability, and he's won a SB, so 7 is pretty set.

Cousins and Dak are kind of the same guy, in that both are better than average QBs, that can't carry a team based just on their individual abilities, but if surrounded by enough talent on both sides of the ball, they both can be very successful. So, either one could be 8 or 9.

Lamar. Not even certain he should be included at all in the top-10, but based just on his running ability, I can't think of another QB that I'd trust more of the remaining 22 QBs to at least keep me in the game and give me a chance to win.

AdolfOliverBush 11-28-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16631570)
Lot of ways to think about this. But if I'm thinking I need to win one game, say the SB, and I can pick any QB I want, then probably in this order:

Mahomes
Allen
Hurts
Burrow
Tua
Herbert
Aaron Rodgers
Cousins
Dak
Jackson

Top-5 are pretty much in order. Tua is having a better season than Herbert right now, but obviously Herbert has the more elite physical abilities. Call it a coinflip at 5 & 6.

I'd take a healthy AR over any of the last three QBs just based on ability, and he's won a SB, so 7 is pretty set.

Cousins and Dak are kind of the same guy, in that both are better than average QBs, that can't carry a team based just on their individual abilities, but if surrounded by enough talent on both sides of the ball, they both can be very successful. So, either one could be 8 or 9.

Lamar. Not even certain he should be included at all in the top-10, but based just on his running ability, I can't think of another QB that I'd trust more of the remaining 22 QBs to at least keep me in the game and give me a chance to win.

It's interesting that besides Mahomes, the only QB on that list who has accomplished a damn thing is Rodgers.

Megatron96 11-28-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16631616)
It's interesting that besides Mahomes, the only QB on that list who has accomplished a damn thing is Rodgers.

Yeah, and that has to be part of the argument, I think. however, I left Brady off as well, and he's the most accomplished QB in NFL history. But he hasn't been nearly as clutch this season as he was in the past, and he comes with a lot of weaknesses that have to be propped up, like Dak or Cousins. So he's not on my list. Last season he would've been.

ToxSocks 11-28-2022 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16631234)
Boy has this list been reshaped this year. Concensus top 4 were Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, and Brady. After that in no particular order, were Burrow, Herbert, Wilson, Stafford, Carr, and Jackoff.
Right now, Mahomes is the number one, Tua, Allen, and Hurts and Burrow would round out the top 5. Dak would probably be next, then who? Herbert? Geno? Would you put Carr, Lamar, and/or Jimmy G in the top 10? I can't think of anyone else that I could put above them this year. Wilson, Brady, and Rodgers all fell off so much that they don't belong there anymore. (Wilson doesn't even belong in the league anymore).

Rodgers and Brady being top 4 in 2022 was never "consensus". Most pundits did not have them in their top 4 at all.

That's like saying there's a consensus that the earth is 6,000 years old.

And Tua a top 5 Qb? No one outside of click bait network heads are saying that shit.

Chief Pagan 11-28-2022 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 16631321)
I agree. I'm not a fan of quarterbacks who run for as many yards as they throw. But, the media loves that crap and have him in the MVP conversation, so I had to put him in the top 5.

I'm not a fan of my franchise QB being a run first quarterback.

But you can build a winning formula around that and Hurts is playing at a big time level.

Who knows how long it will last, but that's not to say he isn't a top QB as of right now.

Chief Pagan 11-28-2022 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16631616)
It's interesting that besides Mahomes, the only QB on that list who has accomplished a damn thing is Rodgers.

Are we talking about future HOF or who is currently playing at an elite level?

the steam 11-28-2022 02:37 PM

Mahomes is 1 and there isn't a close 2nd. 90% of Mahomes plays are nothing special, lots of screens, swing passes, short slants that any NFL QB makes. What makes Mahomes undisputed #1 is those 4 or 5 crucial plays in a game. When you must get a 1st down or the game is over. When you need to get in the endzone because a FG doesn't cut it. When it's 3rd and 11 and you desperately need a 1st down.

Wasn't it fun against the Chargers last week not hoping but knowing we were getting a TD? Even 2nd tier QB's like Allen and Burrow in a late game drive fans are HOPING they can get it done. With Mahomes it's not hoping but KNOWING what is going to happen.

Like Rodgers in his prime, he was great at piling on that meaningless 4th TD pass vs the Bears or the Lions, but in the NFC championship vs Seattle in the 4th Q literally all he had to do was move the sticks a couple times and the game was over. Couldn't do it. Rodgers apologists will say "It was the legion of boom he was against." Brady tore them up with the game on the line on the biggest stage.

In 2022 Allen and Burrow are to Mahomes what Rodgers was to Brady. Nice stats but in a big spot it's not even close who you want leading that game deciding drive. Sure Mahomes throws INTs sometimes, but NEVER that back breaking INT in a crucial spot. What Allen did against Minnesota in OT Mahomes would never ever do.

Lzen 11-28-2022 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16631488)
I don't know but Jimmy G has to be around #10. He's underrated. The test of a good QB is how you perform on 3rd downs and he is good on 3rd downs.

ROFL

If Jimmy G is around #10 then the NFL is full of garbage QBs.

Jewish Rabbi 11-28-2022 03:24 PM

1 quarterback ranked for every decade the earth has existed!

ThaVirus 11-29-2022 07:53 AM

Rankings are tough.

Do you weight off of recent trends? Past history? Do you account for injury or missed games? There's so much to consider..

That said, for this season overall, I'd say:

1. Mahomes
2. Burrow
3. Tagovailoa
4. Hurts
5. Allen
6. G. Smith
7. Rodgers
8. Jackson
9. Herbert
10. Brady


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