We're too damn predictable
 

This shit is outrageous. We have had 30 plays on offense so far and a whooping 6 have been runs. 80/20 pass to run ratio is not going to get it done. Our offense looks like garbage when we go one dimensional.

The Chiefs or their fans?

We go to pre season game plans before the playoffs.

Andy stops trying to run to early

Needs more Justin Watson

Best offense in the league is too predictable, huh?

Andy is not revealing any of his playbook in a game against a Broncos team that has an interim coach

Chiefs are moving the ball at will, predictable or not. A poor Mahomes throw and a Skyy drop are what’s impacting today more than the play calling.

Yes, you honestly think this offense is at its best throwing it >75% of the time? You don't see how throwing it so much is making it harder on the line and making it harder on Mahomes?

Dumb thread

You must be a mod.

At will? What game are you watching?

Yards per play

Lulz

Doesn't matter how "predictable " you are when you miss wide open TD passes under zero pressure

Throw short middle whenever they need a first down

Has nothing to do with yards per play. When the defense knows that there is like a 90%+ chance of us passing the ball on any down other than 1st, then it makes it that much easier on the D.

You don't see how an overabundance of passes would lead to more errors in the pass game?

They were in the first half.

I honestly think that you know jack shit compared to the guy who has coached a top 5 offense 5 years in a row.

And there it is. You can't question the coach. The best cop out in any discussion.

It's the turnovers stupid

Yes, keep passing. This is going so ****ing well.

Write a strongly worded letter to Andy Reid asking why the offense isn't better than #1 in the league? :shrug:

Please present your credentials.

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AT BEEEEEE KAYYYYY HAVE IT YOUR WAY

Our roster doesn’t stack up with the other top teams… Cincy, Bills, Cowboys, Eagles.

We basically rely on Mahomes playing amazing and Reid out-scheming the opposing D.

But we have a lot of holes and they can’t always overcome all of them.

Special teams, lack of ability to run on 3rd & short, no true #1 receiver, not enough pass rush from DL and young secondary.

Next year we should be in a much better position from a roster standpoint.

Dumb OP.

What a failure of a TD drive! Where were the runs???

Predictable or not, they still gotta stop it.

Gimme the game in 15's hands 100%.

27 points so ****ing predictable

3 passes and only one run there. WTF Andy??

2 td passes since this ****ing reerun started this thread.

Pete lite.

GIVING THE BALL TO MAHOMES IS NOT GOING TO GET IT DONE.

Hopefully they don’t throw any more predictable TD passes. Those suck.

Thats because these games don't really matter.

Pass rush is trash.

What does that have to do with our offense being predictable?

If you think running the ball less than 20% is the best idea than idk what to even say.

The streak may be ending today.

Yep, smart play calling again. Give them the ball right back.

Yes, 4 minutes left in the game and a 3 point lead and they keep calling pass plays that end up with incompletions.
No wonder every game is tight and we go into overtime against garbage teams.
Run the ball…..

What a horrible win this was. It's obvious from our 2.8 YPC we should have just run the ball more.

A pass to seal the game. Clearly should have been a run!

I mean, I can't ****ing believe Andy went with 15 to get the first down instead of another 2 yard gain with the game on the line.

If you think running the ball less than 20% is the best idea than idk what to even say.

He learned his lesson. I was afraid they'd run and kick a long FG.

If you think you're going to win an argument to take the ball away from Mahomes in favor of 2 yards a carry, then you're exponentially more ****ing reeruned than I ever imagined you could be.

Imagine crying about putting the game in the hands of the best player in football.

Giving a guy a run every other drive is a great way to give him the best chance to succeed and it sure as **** wasn't a good win.

It’s been true for years and the offense still puts up historic numbers.

Yards per play says that running for any reason other than to run clock or keep the defense honest is self-defeating

Execution? Yup thought that's what you said.

Middle part of the game called too many pass plays in a row.

And boy, how bout MVS? Just wildly exciting. I'll leave it at that.

Our receivers suck. Toney is pretty good, Moore can be...but ya it's Kelce and Mckinnon

It's not about taking the ball out of his hands you stupid mother****er. It's about making life easier on him. Teams can just tee off on him because they know every play is going to be a throw.

You stupid ****s wanna bitch about the OT, but clearly don't know how hard it is on them when the pass rushers can rush the passer balls to the wall every single play.

I don't feel this team is that predictable. The donx built this D specifically to play agains the Chiefs/PMII.

They are basically the Marty Chiefs with Dave Krieg at QB. Just good enough to lose.

this thread sucks

He did what he was brought in to do. Mahomes missed him on an easy 70 yard TD.

What part of what we did today kept the D honest? That's the problem when we play better teams and do this shit. They know we won't run it and run a light box dropping most into coverage and our O turns to dog shit.

Oh.

And after slamming into the asshole of the o lineman 2 straight plays, giving Patrick ONE play on 3rd and long when they know we abso****inglutely aren't going to run DOES make it easier?

Gotcha.

Waste 2 downs, put Pat behind the sticks with one chance to convert.

SO MUCH easier.

Jesus Christ you're ****ing stupid.

You"re just too good for this team. Man, so sorry

LOL...wasn't a good win?? Would you have been happier with a spectacular loss?

Justin Watson needs the ball more. And more snaps

Dilphag is a ****ing reerun.

How she has thread starting privileges is becoming quite the mystery.

He'll get it because the other receivers are nothing special either.

How about Blake Bell with a big TD catch? That wasn't very "predictable".

He's marginal as a starting WR. He should've gone up for that one pass down the seam, instead of just standing there waiting for it and allowing a much smaller DB get a hand on it.

And there's no way that Mahomes is just that inaccurate downfield; He's been nails on those throws since he came into the league. It pretty much only happens with MVS.

It never stops amazing me that people think we need to run the ball more.

We're too damm predictable
 

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It was a great win.

I'm interested in how many rushing attempts would make you feel the Chiefa are committed to the run?

For myself, more than 12. And historically, when the ratio between passes/runs exceeds about 70/30%, most NFL teams lose, since the advent of the SB era.

Today, KC ran the ball 20% of the time.

What? You liked that 2.8 yard avg today by our rushers?

There is almost no correlation to football played prior to 1995.

We should not be concerned about how many times we run. We should be concerned WHEN we run. In general the Chiefs run the ball too much on 1st down. Too little on 2nd and 3rd downs. And dont go for it on 4th down enough.

Fine. i think that's probably bullshit, but whatever.

Check it out starting in 2000, I don't care. It still comes out that most teams lose when they get that far out of whack between running and passing. The fence appears to be about 35% running vs 75% passing. Passing more than about 75% of the time usually leads to losses.

Stats have also shown that teams who run the ball on 1st down fail to get a 1st down more on that series than they do if they pass it.

Why we almost solely run shotgun on 2nd and 3rd and short I will never know. 2nd and short is a free play to be max unpredictable and open up a huge huge play potential or just get an easy 1st down if you choose to run it.

You're probably misinterpreting cause and affect there. Teams throw more when they're behind and run more when they have the lead.

We pass because we're good at it. Andy even specifically said in the post game that the Broncos were playing heavy run defense, so we passed to take advantage of it.

The whole goal for just about any defense is to make the opposing offense one dimensional.

We just do that for them most of the time.

It allows the defense to just ignore half of their reads and rush the passer. It makes it difficult on the offensive line. It makes it difficult on the QB, even Mahomes.

It's just dumb, and I'm really tired of arguing with morons about it.

Yes, you still have to keep defenses honest. We don't bother half of the time, and then wonder why we bog down for long stretches.

The problem with this team isn't the offense. And it certainly isn't a lack of runs on offense. Dumb, dumb stuff here.

Well said.

Okay, let's say I agree with you about the context.

Then why is it when the Chiefs push it past about 30% rushing vs. 70% passing they lose more games? And/or the games are always closer, and the Chiefs scoring efficiency declines significantly?

The sweet spot for the Chiefs has been right around 60/40 in the Mahomes era, give or take a couple percentage points. Don't think they've lost a single game when they've kept that ratio.