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RunKC 01-02-2023 08:42 AM

Broncos Country! Let’s Cry!!!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the literal exact move that the current roughing the passer rules have been hammering this year. <a href="https://t.co/pXKYljHqgV">pic.twitter.com/pXKYljHqgV</a></p>&mdash; RK (@RyanKoenigsberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanKoenigsberg/status/1609663551500591111?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This gets worse every time you watch it. <br><br>Defender even initiated the contact. <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/g5kG58VBnK">pic.twitter.com/g5kG58VBnK</a></p>&mdash; RK (@RyanKoenigsberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanKoenigsberg/status/1609651869613428736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Apparently lifting up a QB and slamming him to the ground is roughing the passer for any QB except for Russell Wilson.. <a href="https://t.co/kUBbYYglKH">pic.twitter.com/kUBbYYglKH</a></p>&mdash; Michael 🇲🇽 (@Bronco_Hater) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bronco_Hater/status/1609659418299502592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It took the Chiefs getting every call by the Refs, 22 Broncos players on IR and the Broncos having a interim HC to beat the Broncos by 3 😹 <br><br>Get Sean Payton in here so we can smoke these bums 😹 <a href="https://t.co/ohpmiK7Ndq">pic.twitter.com/ohpmiK7Ndq</a></p>&mdash; Michael 🇲🇽 (@Bronco_Hater) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bronco_Hater/status/1609657398528184322?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So, I guess you can just body slam Russell Wilson? <br><br>All about player safety, amirite NFL? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Broncos</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/1043TheFan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@1043TheFan</a></p>&mdash; Cecil Lammey (@CecilLammey) <a href="https://twitter.com/CecilLammey/status/1609656388531421190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs are better than Broncos. <br>(Yeah, I know: Well, duh.)<br>And can&#39;t blame the refs for Chiefs being better than Broncos.<br>(Again: Duh.)<br>But that iffy offensive pass interference penalty on Courtland Sutton did change entire complexion of this game.</p>&mdash; Mark Kiszla (@markkiszla) <a href="https://twitter.com/markkiszla/status/1609649575270268929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL is doing everything in their power to ensure the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have the 1st seed <a href="https://t.co/w6NVguG8eL">pic.twitter.com/w6NVguG8eL</a></p>&mdash; Denver Broncos 365 (@DailyBroncos) <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyBroncos/status/1609646838155546626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rain Man 01-02-2023 08:46 AM

Crybabies. Karma is not even close to making things right yet.

FlaChief58 01-02-2023 08:46 AM

How many times have we seen Patrick get slammed like that and not gotten the call. I agree that it should have been called, but unless you're name is Brady, the refs are wildly inconsistent in calling those

old_geezer 01-02-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 16702544)
How many times have we seen Patrick get slammed like that and not gotten the call. I agree that it should have been called, but unless you're name is Brady, the refs are wildly inconsistent in calling those

I was about to post the same thing. Roughing the passer is a judgement call and the officials have been wildly inconsistent this year. I have seen ticky-tacky calls and body slams ignored. You never know when it will be called. :shrug:

CoMoChief 01-02-2023 09:05 AM

I'll say this....

With the game being on the line, Chris Jones was very lucky he wasn't flagged for that slam.

I'm all for the un-pussification of the NFL, hard hits etc, but with the way refs have been calling RTP this year, a flag there would have given DEN a new set of downs on the KC 40yd line, putting them near FG range.

Not saying Chiefs would have lost but DEN could have easily sent the game into OT, and we'd all be flipping our shit over it. It wouldn't be the first time Jones did something foolish to cost the Chiefs at a critical point near the end of a game.

GloucesterChief 01-02-2023 09:06 AM

The Jones play, the refs should of called Russell down as in the grasp. They didn't so Jones had to bring him to the ground. Not sure what the defense is supposed to do in the situation other than that.

Kramerica 01-02-2023 09:09 AM

I noticed nobody mentioned that the only reason the donks were even in the game was due to several ticky tack calls against the Chiefs. One of which led to a first down on a busted ass 4th down attempt.

tredadda 01-02-2023 09:09 AM

Yet again it’s the refs that cost the losing team the game. I personally like where they made it seem like they were the better team if not for “injuries” as if the people injured were any good to begin with.

RealSNR 01-02-2023 09:12 AM

They're gonna get us next year! Their interim coach even said so!

Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kramerica (Post 16702574)
I noticed nobody mentioned that the only reason the donks were even in the game was due to several ticky tack calls against the Chiefs. One of which led to a first down on a busted ass 4th down attempt.

That was not a “ticky tack” call. It was a bonehead penalty by a defender who does some bonehead stuff.

Kman34 01-02-2023 09:18 AM

Boo ****ing Hoo… We get screwed by the refs every other game.. Too bad, so sad..

TEX 01-02-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16702581)
They're gonna get us next year! Their interim coach even said so!

One would think that the law of averages will apply one of these years, but the Last Place Denver Broncos are so bad, I just don't know anymore. LMAO

RealSNR 01-02-2023 09:19 AM

Lol. This is on the official Broncos site. I get it. It's go team rah rah shit, and they have every right to be homers on their own page, but the way this guy focuses on how the Donks were screwed, backstabbed, and betrayed into a loss by the NFL instead of them deserving the L because they suck at football is some rich ass shit.

https://www.denverbroncos.com/news/w...ell-wilson-bro

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KANSAS CITY — On another afternoon, perhaps the Broncos cap the comeback.

On another day at Arrowhead, without 20 players on injured reserve, perhaps the Broncos would have marched down the field and scored.

After the Broncos' 27-24 loss, a 15th consecutive defeat at the hands of the Chiefs, Russell Wilson could imagine the scenario.

"This football team, they have a chance to win it all," Wilson said about the Broncos' division rival. "I think that if we have all our guys against all their guys, we've got a great chance."

The Broncos certainly didn't go to Kansas City for a moral victory. As Wilson and Interim Head Coach Jerry Rosburg detailed after the game, the Broncos were determined to find a way to snap a skid that dates back to 2015.

"We were trying to win," Rosburg said. "Here's the deal: We didn't come here to try to look good and hold up. We came here to win."

Until the final moments, the Broncos had that chance. After falling into a 10-point hole with 12:36 to play, Denver drove 75 yards to cut the lead to three points, and the Broncos' defense forced a series of incompletions to get the ball back for the offense. With two minutes to play, the Broncos faced a third-and-5 at their own 42-yard line. Denver, though, would fall short on a final play that went awry at the snap. On fourth-and-2, Graham Glasgow snapped the ball early — Wilson said Glasgow thought the Chiefs jumped offside — and Wilson was not ready for the ball. He was dragged down for the fourth sack of the afternoon, and the Broncos' chances for a win fell with him.

"Wish we could've had that last play back," Wilson said. "Maybe we can pick up the first down there and keep going and go win the game."

Denver only had to battle back because of a questionable call that changed the tone of the game. With the Broncos leading 17-13 late in the third quarter, Wilson uncorked a deep pass to Courtland Sutton on third-and-11 that Sutton hauled in between two defenders for a 44-yard gain. Sutton, though, was whistled for offensive pass interference — a "highly, highly unfortunate" call, Rosburg later deemed it.

"Apparently — when I asked the official that threw the flag — he said that I pushed the defender in the chest to make the catch and that's where the flag came from," Sutton said. "But you guys can watch the film and see what happened."

Instead of holding the ball at the Kansas City 40-yard line with a four-point lead, Denver faced third-and-19 from its own 8-yard line and had to punt one play later.

"That was a big play for us," Sutton said. "I thought that we were going to be able to make that play and convert on that third down and move the ball and keep moving the ball like we had been. It was unfortunate. … Things happen; it's on us to be able to bounce back and make another play. We were able to get something going after that, but it wasn't enough and we weren't able to get points on the board, which is what we needed to do."

The Chiefs marched quickly down the field to retake the lead, and Wilson was picked off on the first play of the Broncos' ensuing possession. The Chiefs scored another touchdown after taking over at the Denver 17-yard line, and the Broncos appeared in too deep of a hole to respond.

But Denver did not flinch.

"I have the deepest respect and gratitude for the men in that room, because they fought," Rosburg said. "They fought till the very end. And that's worth a lot to me."

Playing without their two starting edge rushers, two of their three starting defensive linemen and their rookie cornerback who was pressed into a starting role earlier this year, the Broncos' defense held the Chiefs to 2-of-9 on third down and forced three three-and-outs in the third quarter. Safety Justin Simmons also recorded an end-zone interception of Mahomes to post a career-high sixth pick of the year.

Offensively, Denver tied its second highest point total of the season and operated well with Offensive Coordinator Justin Outten calling plays for the first time this season.

"I made the decision to move Justin in the box because I wanted Klint on the sideline with Russell Wilson," Rosburg said. "That is a relationship — a quarterback coach and a quarterback — it's different. … They see the game differently. I wanted Klint with Russell. I didn't want the plays called from the sideline. That's why I had so much confidence in Justin to put him up in the box and call the plays."

Wilson was particularly effective with his legs, carrying the ball four times for 27 yards and two touchdowns. The Broncos' quarterback also threw a touchdown pass to Albert Okwuegbunam, the third-year player's first score in a season in which he's seen significant snaps in just five games.

Denver, though, could not quite do enough to earn a win. A strip-sack late in the second quarter cost the Broncos at least three points, and Wilson's interception set the Chiefs up to take a two-possession lead.

"I'm heartbroken for those guys because they deserve a win, and I'm heartbroken for our Denver fans because this whole streak thing that you all know about and I keep getting asked about … has got to stop," Rosburg said. "And the only way it's going to stop is if we stop making errors down the stretch of the game or we stop making errors at the beginning of the game to put us behind the eight ball. Those things have got to stop."

Instead of a feel-good win during a week in which Denver parted ways with a trio of coaches and installed an interim head coach, the Broncos were handed their ninth one-score loss of the season and their third consecutive one-score loss to Kansas City.

Wilson, though, can see that brighter times are ahead. On this January afternoon in Kansas City, the Broncos were unable to finish off a signature win.

With a few more players and a few more plays, Wilson believes they'll enjoy soon arrive at that day.

"Obviously the team we played today, [that's] a really good football team [in] the Chiefs," Wilson said. "They've got a lot of really great players and all that. But what we believe is when we get everybody back, we're going to be back here next year and fighting for it all. And that means something. That means something for us about where we're going and where we're headed."

philfree 01-02-2023 09:23 AM

I saw a clip/or some TV commentary and they were talking the defenders spinning guys to the ground so they wouldn't land on them with all their weight. Mahomes has been slammed like that and there was no penalty. Kelce too for that matter. I've seen QBs brought down across the league in similar fashion with no flags. These is the league flailing in an attempt to protect QBs.

scho63 01-02-2023 09:24 AM

Would you like some cheese with that whine you little Bronco bitches?

smithandrew051 01-02-2023 09:25 AM

DISBAND THE FRANCHISE AND AWARD ALL OF THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO THE KC CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!

philfree 01-02-2023 09:25 AM

And these guys want to ignore the no call PI in the EZ that wasn't called which lead to a redzone INT and it changed the whole complexion of the game. So they can **** right off.

InChiefsHeaven 01-02-2023 09:30 AM

Whatevs...they can cry all they want, we've done that for years. When you are a bad team, things don't go your way. Hell, Pat had a pass batted down right back to him which he converted into a first down. That shit is the kind of luck you get when you are good.

This won't last forever. We keep ****ing around in these games against inferior opponents, sooner or later the Donks will beat us...BUT NOT THIS YEAR BITCHES!!

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Danguardace 01-02-2023 09:30 AM

True what they say only 2 things come out of Colorado Steers and...

O.city 01-02-2023 09:31 AM

If you want the whole "protect the QB" thing to stand up, you've gotta blow those plays dead when they're in the grasp.

Jones had Wilson wrapped up.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2023 09:33 AM

The officials absolutely have to be quicker on whistles if they're going to call RTP like they are. Jones tried to hold him up for the whistle (like he did on the int that got reversed on the penalty) and the officials didn't blow the play dead timely enough.

Let them play or don't, but you have to pick a lane here.

Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:34 AM

The “full body weight” nonsense is what has made tackling the QB incomprehensible. People can’t hit or even partly land on the QB, so you see these spin-down tackles that are also supposed to be illegal. There’s no way to safely hit a QB anymore.

If you ask me Tony Siracusa, I think it was, was correct. If the defensive player’s wife can take the man laying on top of them then an NFL QB should be able to.

TEX 01-02-2023 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16702543)
Crybabies. Karma is not even close to making things right yet.

So much this. They forget about all the years of entitled special treatment they received. Not to mention all the blatant cheating.

Imon Yourside 01-02-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kramerica (Post 16702574)
I noticed nobody mentioned that the only reason the donks were even in the game was due to several ticky tack calls against the Chiefs. One of which led to a first down on a busted ass 4th down attempt.

Yup, pretty much handed the Donkeys a touchdown drive.

Red Dawg 01-02-2023 09:37 AM

I am surprised it wasn't flagged but the refs should have blown the play over. Wilson wasn't going to get away with Jones having both hands around him.

Imon Yourside 01-02-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16702615)
The officials absolutely have to be quicker on whistles if they're going to call RTP like they are. Jones tried to hold him up for the whistle (like he did on the int that got reversed on the penalty) and the officials didn't blow the play dead timely enough.

Let them play or don't, but you have to pick a lane here.

Jones went easy on him, just making sure he didn't get away.

ThaVirus 01-02-2023 09:38 AM

I noticed a ton of crying on FB, Insta and Reddit from people about these two calls/non-calls as if the league wants KC to have the #1 seed.

The issue is, the league directly handed us a loss to IND over a ticky tack penalty. And the league "allowed" us to lose tight games against BUF and CIN, both of which are vying for the #1 seed against us.

It just doesn't make any sense.

TEX 01-02-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 16702603)
And these guys want to ignore the no call PI in the EZ that wasn't called which lead to a redzone INT and it changed the whole complexion of the game. So they can **** right off.

That was a biggie...could easily have been called.

JustDíqLix 01-02-2023 09:43 AM

While watching it, I was shocked the flag didn’t come out. Way lesser QB hits have been called.

RealSNR 01-02-2023 09:43 AM

14 straight Donk losses to the Chiefs on the wall
14 straight Donk losses to the Chiefs
You take the bitch QB down and don't get flagged
15 straight Donk losses to the Chiefs on the wall

tredadda 01-02-2023 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 16702567)
I'll say this....

With the game being on the line, Chris Jones was very lucky he wasn't flagged for that slam.

I'm all for the un-pussification of the NFL, hard hits etc, but with the way refs have been calling RTP this year, a flag there would have given DEN a new set of downs on the KC 40yd line, putting them near FG range.

Not saying Chiefs would have lost but DEN could have easily sent the game into OT, and we'd all be flipping our shit over it. It wouldn't be the first time Jones did something foolish to cost the Chiefs at a critical point near the end of a game.

The refs are very inconsistent with RTP. I have seen hits on QBs (especially Mahomes) that don’t get called and other hits that shouldn’t be RTPs that do get called.

tmax63 01-02-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16702613)
If you want the whole "protect the QB" thing to stand up, you've gotta blow those plays dead when they're in the grasp.

Jones had Wilson wrapped up.

This x1000. The Chiefs had him wrapped up except for his throwing arm below the elbow earlier in the game and Wilson literally threw the ball up in the air and their RB caught it for a short gain that should of been a sack. When the refs don't blow the whistle what's CJ supposed to do, let him throw it incomplete?" They haven't called 10 "intentional grounding" penalties all year even though there's usually 2-3 every game that could have been called.

Chiefaholic 01-02-2023 09:46 AM

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DaFace 01-02-2023 09:46 AM

I remember when the Chiefs sucked so bad that we would whine about the refs all the time. When your team sucks, you need all the breaks to go your way to win games. If the Broncos don't want games to be decided by the refs, perhaps they should play well enough that the refs have less of an impact.

(To be fair, we still have plenty of ref whiners around here, but that's a different story.)

DaFace 01-02-2023 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16702633)
While watching it, I was shocked the flag didn’t come out. Way lesser QB hits have been called.

And at least two "body slams" on Mahomes this year haven't been. **** off.

DaFace 01-02-2023 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 16702638)
This x1000. The Chiefs had him wrapped up except for his throwing arm below the elbow earlier in the game and Wilson literally threw the ball up in the air and their RB caught it for a short gain that should of been a sack. When the refs don't blow the whistle what's CJ supposed to do, let him throw it incomplete?" They haven't called 10 "intentional grounding" penalties all year even though there's usually 2-3 every game that could have been called.

The competition committee HAS to look at how Roughing is called again. You can't tell pass rushers to not tackle QBs hard and then let QBs hang in there and throw the ball when they're not taken to the ground.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2023 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16702635)
14 straight Donk losses to the Chiefs on the wall
14 straight Donk losses to the Chiefs
You take the bitch QB down with no flags around
15 straight Donk losses to the Chiefs on the wall

just trying to help...

I would also accept "Take the bitch QB down; no flags on the ground"

Frankly, I expected better from you, SNR.

notorious 01-02-2023 09:53 AM

What is Jones supposed to do when the refs refuse to blow the whistle?

Literally the drive before Wilson was tied up for a long time when the defender could have smoked him and it allowed him to pass it.

Eleazar 01-02-2023 09:55 AM

It’s the eternal refrain of loser mentality… “it’s all because of the refs…”

Football games are long with many chances to alter the outcome. The final score, the standings, the 15 games in a row streak. That doesn’t happen because of a single BS penalty.

And the penalty on Sutton was BS, but regardless, your team lost because it sucks. Chiefs were totally beatable yesterday. Good teams win ugly games. Bad teams find a way to lose.

duncan_idaho 01-02-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16702648)
The competition committee HAS to look at how Roughing is called again. You can't tell pass rushers to not tackle QBs hard and then let QBs hang in there and throw the ball when they're not taken to the ground.

Exactly this.

If they want defenders to not throw QBs to the ground and not tackle them with their full body weight falling on them, they HAVE to blow the whistle for in the grasp sooner.

tredadda 01-02-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16702618)
So much this. They forget about all the years of entitled special treatment they received. Not to mention all the blatant cheating.

When you are used to getting calls go your way, it’s even harder to deal with when those calls stop as you feel entitled to them.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-02-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 16702544)
How many times have we seen Patrick get slammed like that and not gotten the call. I agree that it should have been called, but unless you're name is Brady, the refs are wildly inconsistent in calling those

The whistle should have been blown well before that, but it wasn't, because the refs were giving Russell a chance...

We could go through the horrible missed DPI before the play before Patty was picked in the endzone, or the ridiculous PI call to extend their drive. We could also show blatant holding by their Oline on critical plays that were allowed. So guess what Donk, **** OFF, 15 straight dipshits...

notorious 01-02-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16702648)
The competition committee HAS to look at how Roughing is called again. You can't tell pass rushers to not tackle QBs hard and then let QBs hang in there and throw the ball when they're not taken to the ground.

This sounds bad, but the only solution is flags or two hand touch.

Or don’t call anything unless hits are to the head or late. (The correct option).

I’m being dead serious.

Redbled 01-02-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 16702603)
And these guys want to ignore the no call PI in the EZ that wasn't called which lead to a redzone INT and it changed the whole complexion of the game. So they can **** right off.


Ball would have been placed on the 1 and we run it in. Cost us 7 points. Well 6 when the kick is bad but still. Officiating was equally poor.

TwistedChief 01-02-2023 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16702658)
It’s the eternal refrain of loser mentality… “it’s all because of the refs…”

Football games are long with many chances to alter the outcome. The final score, the standings, the 15 games in a row streak. That doesn’t happen because of a single BS penalty.

And the penalty on Sutton was BS, but regardless, your team lost because it sucks. Chiefs were totally beatable yesterday. Good teams win ugly games. Bad teams find a way to lose.

We have Patrick Mahomes and they don’t.

Our fans are 10000% of this same loser mentality. Just look at the GDT anytime there’s a questionable call that doesn’t go in our favor.

If Mahomes didn’t pull so many rabbits out of a hat, half of CP would be talking about our record ex-officiating.

I can fully understand being apoplectic about the offensive PI call. That was horrible. But the refs are entirely to blame for the RTP situation at the end. Those ****ers whistled Mariota down in that playoff game against the Chiefs in a millisecond. Ridiculous that Wilson gets 2 seconds while in the grasp to potentially just throw a prayer into the air.

Every time I look at the DJ strip sack I honestly think it’s the worst call in any sport I’ve ever observed. I don’t get it.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2023 10:04 AM

sillay donkay

tredadda 01-02-2023 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16702664)
Exactly this.

If they want defenders to not throw QBs to the ground and not tackle them with their full body weight falling on them, they HAVE to blow the whistle for in the grasp sooner.

Yes. It does have to be whistled dead sooner. If the defensive player has the QB in their grasp they need to whistle it dead. If not you put the defense in a huge bind. Throw the QB down it’s a penalty, tackle with body weight it’s a penalty. Hold him and the QB has a chance to break free for a play, hold him and the QB can possibly get the ball off for an incompletion.

tredadda 01-02-2023 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 16702658)
It’s the eternal refrain of loser mentality… “it’s all because of the refs…”

Football games are long with many chances to alter the outcome. The final score, the standings, the 15 games in a row streak. That doesn’t happen because of a single BS penalty.

And the penalty on Sutton was BS, but regardless, your team lost because it sucks. Chiefs were totally beatable yesterday. Good teams win ugly games. Bad teams find a way to lose.

You should definitely avoid any GDT on here then.

Chiefaholic 01-02-2023 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16702648)
The competition committee HAS to look at how Roughing is called again. You can't tell pass rushers to not tackle QBs hard and then let QBs hang in there and throw the ball when they're not taken to the ground.

1. Need to abolish the X% body weight on the QB primarily because it's too vague and called differently from crew to crew. If it's a legitimate fundamental tackle that the QB isn't picked up and driven into the ground, then there shouldn't be a flag.

2. The incidental touching a helmet or facemask when swiping at the ball should be abolished. This will not cause injury, and again ticky tacky when it determines the outcome of a game.

3. If Jones wasn't trying so hard to NOT tackle Wilson too hard, then he would have never got the pass off. When he had Wilson wrapped up the whistle should have been blown immediatly as a sack. The refs failed and Wilson throws a desperation pass while in the grasp of Jones.

Rainbarrel 01-02-2023 10:14 AM

Ref 1- May knock some sense into him
Ref 2- I doubt it
NY Ref -**** the multi-backstabbing bitch

Redbled 01-02-2023 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16702678)
We have Patrick Mahomes and they don’t.

Our fans are 10000% of this same loser mentality. Just look at the GDT anytime there’s a questionable call that doesn’t go in our favor.

If Mahomes didn’t pull so many rabbits out of a hat, half of CP would be talking about our record ex-officiating.

I can fully understand being apoplectic about the offensive PI call. That was horrible. But the refs are entirely to blame for the RTP situation at the end. Those ****ers whistled Mariota down in that playoff game against the Chiefs in a millisecond. Ridiculous that Wilson gets 2 seconds while in the grasp to potentially just throw a prayer into the air.

Every time I look at the DJ strip sack I honestly think it’s the worst call in any sport I’ve ever observed. I don’t get it.



The only one that I can recall that compares was the pass interference no call a few years back with the Rams and Saints.

dirk digler 01-02-2023 10:17 AM

I hadn't seen that replay of the Jones sack until now, if you notice he has him in the grasp at the 35 and it was around the 29 that Russ tries to get away so he gets body slammed.

That is on the refs for not blowing the whistle while Russ was going back for 6 yds.

RollChiefsRoll 01-02-2023 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDiqLix (Post 16702633)
While watching it, I was shocked the flag didn’t come out. Way lesser QB hits have been called.

The guy got a pass off after being in Jones’s grasp for 3 seconds… if the play isn’t blown dead, the defense has to be given some latitude to make the tackle.

tredadda 01-02-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16702668)
The whistle should have been blown well before that, but it wasn't, because the refs were giving Russell a chance...

We could go through the horrible missed DPI before the play before Patty was picked in the endzone, or the ridiculous PI call to extend their drive. We could also show blatant holding by their Oline on critical plays that were allowed. So guess what Donk, **** OFF, 15 straight dipshits...

Well, if you were to ask them they would have either missed them or claim they were not penalties. This is why I try me best to not inject my Chiefs bias regarding the refs. I realize that fans always think the refs are against their team and miss calls for the other team. It’s as certain as the sun rising that the refs screwed over the losing team and the winning team’s fans overlook penalties their team committed that weren’t called. Honestly only the OPI on Sutton was one that I really think they messed up on.

tredadda 01-02-2023 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16702678)
We have Patrick Mahomes and they don’t.

Our fans are 10000% of this same loser mentality. Just look at the GDT anytime there’s a questionable call that doesn’t go in our favor.

If Mahomes didn’t pull so many rabbits out of a hat, half of CP would be talking about our record ex-officiating.

I can fully understand being apoplectic about the offensive PI call. That was horrible. But the refs are entirely to blame for the RTP situation at the end. Those ****ers whistled Mariota down in that playoff game against the Chiefs in a millisecond. Ridiculous that Wilson gets 2 seconds while in the grasp to potentially just throw a prayer into the air.

Every time I look at the DJ strip sack I honestly think it’s the worst call in any sport I’ve ever observed. I don’t get it.

We legit have threads on here talking about how specific refs have it out for us.

Mr. Plow 01-02-2023 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 16702568)
The Jones play, the refs should of called Russell down as in the grasp. They didn't so Jones had to bring him to the ground. Not sure what the defense is supposed to do in the situation other than that.

Exactly. Play should have been, and almost always is, blown dead way before the body slam.

DJ's left nut 01-02-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16702748)
Exactly. Play should have been, and almost always is, blown dead way before the body slam.

Put yourself in that refs shoes for a minute.

Can you see a scenario whereby you hold your whistle, Jones finishes the play and your first reaction is to reach into your pocket?

Because at that point you KNOW the reason that tackle happened was you not blowing the play dead. You just can't turn around and throw a flag there. It would be such a ridiculous approach to officiating.

It would be akin to not blowing a play dead for offsides, the when the OL tries to block the guy that got an early start and holds him to keep his QB from getting killed, you throw a holding flag on him.

I can't think of a time I've seen that happen. I'm sure it has, but it's just god-awful officiating if/when it does. You can't throw a flag on a play that YOU created.

Mr. Plow 01-02-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16702756)
Put yourself in that refs shoes for a minute.

Can you see a scenario whereby you hold your whistle, Jones finishes the play and your first reaction is to reach into your pocket?

Because at that point you KNOW the reason that tackle happened was you not blowing the play dead. You just can't turn around and throw a flag there. It would be such a ridiculous approach to officiating.

It would be akin to not blowing a play dead for offsides, the when the OL tries to block the guy that got an early start and holds him to keep his QB from getting killed, you throw a holding flag on him.

I can't think of a time I've seen that happen. I'm sure it has, but it's just god-awful officiating if/when it does. You can't throw a flag on a play that YOU created.

It would have been a terrible call. You either blow it dead, or let it play out with your flag in your pocket. Thankfully, he let it play out with his flag tucked away firmly.

If I'm remembering correctly, there was another play where the Chiefs had Wilson in their grasp and it should have been blown dead, but wasn't and it allowed him to get rid of the ball.

The Franchise 01-02-2023 10:53 AM

I don't give a shit if that OPI call was bullshit. There have been plenty of questionable DPI calls against us this year.

The Franchise 01-02-2023 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16702768)
It would have been a terrible call. You either blow it dead, or let it play out with your flag in your pocket. Thankfully, he let it play out with his flag tucked away firmly.

If I'm remembering correctly, there was another play where the Chiefs had Wilson in their grasp and it should have been blown dead, but wasn't and it allowed him to get rid of the ball.

Now imagine you let that play go, you flag Jones and you extend the drive for the Broncos....in Arrowhead. If they thought it was bad for Cheffers....

DJ's left nut 01-02-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 16702768)
It would have been a terrible call. You either blow it dead, or let it play out with your flag in your pocket. Thankfully, he let it play out with his flag tucked away firmly.

If I'm remembering correctly, there was another play where the Chiefs had Wilson in their grasp and it should have been blown dead, but wasn't and it allowed him to get rid of the ball.

It was an 'interception' (I think from Bolton) that was reversed due to an illegal hands to the face penalty (I think on Williams).

And yeah, really bad job by the officials there. In the old world, I have no problem with them swallowing the whistle because it wasn't impossible that Wilson could've gotten out of there and some of the NFL's most exciting plays have started that way.

But in THIS era, with these silly RTP penalties, you just have to blow the whistle there. You can't let the play go UNLESS you're not gonna call RTP if these guys finish.

And we have no way of knowing if they will/won't until we blast a guy and take a potentially game altering penalty in the process.

Its the inconsistency between crews and even the internal inconsistency WITHIN crews that make this such a problem. The NFL has created a real problem here and they have nobody to blame but themselves for it.

smithandrew051 01-02-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16702641)
I remember when the Chiefs sucked so bad that we would whine about the refs all the time. When your team sucks, you need all the breaks to go your way to win games. If the Broncos don't want games to be decided by the refs, perhaps they should play well enough that the refs have less of an impact.

(To be fair, we still have plenty of ref whiners around here, but that's a different story.)

It’s different because the refs actually do hate the Chiefs imo

The Franchise 01-02-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16702789)
It was an 'interception' (I think from Bolton) that was reversed due to an illegal hands to the face penalty (I think on Williams).

And yeah, really bad job by the officials there. In the old world, I have no problem with them swallowing the whistle because it wasn't impossible that Wilson could've gotten out of there and some of the NFL's most exciting plays have started that way.

But in THIS era, with these silly RTP penalties, you just have to blow the whistle there. You can't let the play go UNLESS you're not gonna call RTP if these guys finish.

And we have no way of knowing if they will/won't until we blast a guy and take a potentially game altering penalty in the process.

Its the inconsistency between crews and even the internal inconsistency WITHIN crews that make this such a problem. The NFL has created a real problem here and they have nobody to blame but themselves for it.

Yeah...and that penalty they called on Williams was some bullshit as well. Suddenly the .25 second that Williams index finger touched his face mask was worthy of a penalty. Like that doesn't happen a billion times every other game.

RealSNR 01-02-2023 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16702649)
just trying to help...

I would also accept "Take the bitch QB down; no flags on the ground"

Frankly, I expected better from you, SNR.

Clay is the Weird Al of Chiefs Planet. This is his wheelhouse, not mine

The Franchise 01-02-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16702798)
Clay is the Weird Al of Chiefs Planet. This is his wheelhouse, not mine

Clay is Weird Al if you got him from Wish.

trndobrd 01-02-2023 11:03 AM

I'm just glad that Chris Jones didn't use any harsh language when he tackled Wilson.

scho63 01-02-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16702613)
If you want the whole "protect the QB" thing to stand up, you've gotta blow those plays dead when they're in the grasp.

Jones had Wilson wrapped up.

And this is why the refs suck. Some call it quick and others let it go since so many qb's like Josh Allen escape 3 guys grabbing him.

arrwheader 01-02-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 16702568)
The Jones play, the refs should of called Russell down as in the grasp. They didn't so Jones had to bring him to the ground. Not sure what the defense is supposed to do in the situation other than that.

This right here. He was completely wrapped up by Jones for what felt like an eternity. I kept waiting for the whistle. I was like wtf they were giving him extra time to wiggle out of it. It felt like Jones was waiting on whistle too and he probably was like no? Ok **** it.

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Rain Man 01-02-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 16702838)
This right here. He was completely wrapped up by Jones for what felt like an eternity. I kept waiting for the whistle. I was like wtf they were giving him extra time to wiggle out of it. It felt like Jones was waiting on whistle too and he probably was like no? Ok **** it.

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Yeah, it was annoying. There were two plays like that where Wilson was clearly stopped in the grasp but flung the ball out and if the ball had been caught the Broncos fans would think it was a great play. So if Wilson is still allowed to throw the ball then Jones is still allowed to bring him to the ground.

stevieray 01-02-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16702543)
Crybabies. Karma is not even close to making things right yet.

/Thread

Dunerdr 01-02-2023 11:48 AM

What the **** are they mad about? We advance and they get a little better spot on the picks they still have.

tredadda 01-02-2023 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16702888)
What the **** are they mad about? We advance and they get a little better spot on the picks they still have.

Imagine KC losing 15 in a row to a division rival, with that 15th win being in a game that you felt was officiated in favor of your opponent. Pretty sure you wouldn’t care about draft position at all.

notorious 01-02-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16702895)
Imagine KC losing 15 in a row to a division rival, with that 15th win being in a game that you felt was officiated in favor of your opponent. Pretty sure you wouldn’t care about draft position at all.

One can only imagine......


ROFL

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-02-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16702711)
Well, if you were to ask them they would have either missed them or claim they were not penalties. This is why I try me best to not inject my Chiefs bias regarding the refs. I realize that fans always think the refs are against their team and miss calls for the other team. It’s as certain as the sun rising that the refs screwed over the losing team and the winning team’s fans overlook penalties their team committed that weren’t called. Honestly only the OPI on Sutton was one that I really think they messed up on.

And if it wasn't called we still win the game because we are the Chiefs and they are the Donks...

tredadda 01-02-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16702920)
And if it wasn't called we still win the game because we are the Chiefs and they are the Donks...

True. Not denying that at all.

arrwheader 01-02-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16702842)
Yeah, it was annoying. There were two plays like that where Wilson was clearly stopped in the grasp but flung the ball out and if the ball had been caught the Broncos fans would think it was a great play. So if Wilson is still allowed to throw the ball then Jones is still allowed to bring him to the ground.

Yip. Exactly.

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staylor26 01-02-2023 12:25 PM

Remember when Broncos fans were upset that they would get all the calls with Peyton?

Me neither.

BigRock 01-02-2023 12:32 PM

The refs were helping their stupid asses by not stopping the play so that Russ had a chance to get the ball out and these ****sticks don't even realize it.

I cannot wait until the same thing happens to Mahomes against Denver and he just blindly throws it backwards up over his head for a first down or TD. And these same clowns will utterly melt down that the whistle should have been blown.

ThyKingdomCome15 01-02-2023 12:42 PM

Refs gave breaks to both sides in this game. Chiefs won clean.


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